Guest Nick Logan Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 I don't understand what the problem is here. When I attempt to save a file from an xp machine to a vista I get "you don't have permissions". This is the biggest waste of time. I'm admin on both machines. I have admin permission on both machines. I've done all the tricks for permissions and ownership, etc. Why is this so difficult? Don't vista engineers test their stuff? Apparently not. Does anyone know a simple straight forward way to fix this? I really have better things to do than argue with a machine. I'm the admin. I should be able to do anything at anytime with that machine. Thanks.... Quote
Guest Malke Posted June 7, 2008 Posted June 7, 2008 Nick Logan wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I don't understand what the problem is here. When I attempt to save a > file > from an xp machine to a vista I get "you don't have permissions". This is > the biggest waste of time. I'm admin on both machines. I have admin > permission on both machines. I've done all the tricks for permissions and > ownership, etc. Why is this so difficult? Don't vista engineers test > their > stuff? Apparently not. > > Does anyone know a simple straight forward way to fix this? I really have > better things to do than argue with a machine. I'm the admin. I should > be able to do anything at anytime with that machine.</span> Finished whinging now? Good. Now let's try and solve your problem. It sounds like you haven't got network sharing set up properly. Since you're getting an "access denied" type of error (and next time do try and quote the error messages exactly; it makes helping you so much easier). Read through the following troubleshooting steps patiently and systematically and you will be sharing files very quickly. If you follow the suggestions, it should take you approximately 5 minutes to share files between only two computers. You do not need to be an engineer to do this, either. Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files and folders: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see caveat in Item A below). Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it. A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall. LOOK OUT FOR "HIDDEN" FIREWALLS SUCH AS ARE OFTEN USED IN VPNs. B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab. C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE THE PASSWORDS, EVEN IF YOU ONLY CHOOSE SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista: Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) - http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab). E. Create shares as desired. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! Quote
Guest Mick Murphy Posted June 8, 2008 Posted June 8, 2008 You think you are the Admin on Vista; rubbish, it is changed from XP! Read link below about Admin before whinging! http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/942956 Below is about Networking the 2 OSs http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing. Permissions/Share info is there as well. If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall (or LAN allowed, depending on how their Exceptions are worded in their Firewall) 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is the SAME. In Vista Network and Sharing: Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers) Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc) File Sharing: ON Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared Docs) Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and passwords (passwords can be different) on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer from an XP computer, or a Vista computer. Also, run the XP’s Home or Small Office Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include Vista in your “New†Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to adding a Vista computer to it(redoing the Wizard seems to work for XP machines!). In “My Network Placesâ€Â: “Set up a Home or Small Office Network†OR under Accessories > Communications > Network Setup Wizard > Allow File and Printer Sharing. -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Nick Logan" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I don't understand what the problem is here. When I attempt to save a file > from an xp machine to a vista I get "you don't have permissions". This is > the biggest waste of time. I'm admin on both machines. I have admin > permission on both machines. I've done all the tricks for permissions and > ownership, etc. Why is this so difficult? Don't vista engineers test their > stuff? Apparently not. > > Does anyone know a simple straight forward way to fix this? I really have > better things to do than argue with a machine. I'm the admin. I should be > able to do anything at anytime with that machine. > > Thanks....</span> Quote
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