Permissions

[Guest wildduck200]

I'm trying to copy an executable file, downloaded from the Microsoft website

from the Windows XP SP2 machine to this Vista SP1 machine. Everything looks

right up to the point of copying, then I get a message saying that I don't

have permission and to try again. I can't get past this.

I have permission set on both machines to everyone, both are on the same

workgroup, and I've tried with UAC on and off. I've now got the firewall off

at the Vista end. I can copy happily between the XP machine and the other

older XP machines. I have AVG 8 on both machines.

 

I am totally frustrated by Vista. I'm constantly having to move programs

back from the Vist machines on to the one remaining regularly used XP

machine. I seems the error messages are often unrelated to the error, and I

just sem to hit one horrendously time wasting snag after another. Is there

any way to turn off all this supposed security stuff and just revert to a

simple OS? I see loads of similar complaints to this on a search, butI see

few straightforward answers.

[Guest Mr. Arnold]

"wildduck200" <wildduck200@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> I'm trying to copy an executable file, downloaded from the Microsoft

> website

> from the Windows XP SP2 machine to this Vista SP1 machine. Everything

> looks

> right up to the point of copying, then I get a message saying that I don't

> have permission and to try again. I can't get past this.

> I have permission set on both machines to everyone, both are on the same

> workgroup, and I've tried with UAC on and off. I've now got the firewall

> off

> at the Vista end. I can copy happily between the XP machine and the other

> older XP machines. I have AVG 8 on both machines.</span>

 

Accounts on a folder and permissions can supersede another account. Admin

being set to one thing and Everyone set to something else or machine

name\Users having a different permission setting from everything.

 

Also, you made need to take Ownership of the folder.

 

You can also use Authenticated User Group, which means the same user account

must be established on both machines.

[Guest wildduck200]

"Mr. Arnold" wrote:

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> "wildduck200" <wildduck200@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:B562E014-C7D1-4746-9A6A-56C74B12D954@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green">

> > I'm trying to copy an executable file, downloaded from the Microsoft

> > website

> > from the Windows XP SP2 machine to this Vista SP1 machine. Everything

> > looks

> > right up to the point of copying, then I get a message saying that I don't

> > have permission and to try again. I can't get past this.

> > I have permission set on both machines to everyone, both are on the same

> > workgroup, and I've tried with UAC on and off. I've now got the firewall

> > off

> > at the Vista end. I can copy happily between the XP machine and the other

> > older XP machines. I have AVG 8 on both machines.</span>

>

> Accounts on a folder and permissions can supersede another account. Admin

> being set to one thing and Everyone set to something else or machine

> nameUsers having a different permission setting from everything.

>

> Also, you made need to take Ownership of the folder.

>

> You can also use Authenticated User Group, which means the same user account

> must be established on both machines.

>

> </span>

I am sorry, but this is what I don't understand. The workgroup has a

standard name everywhere here, and machines joining have to join the same

workgroup. Each machine is logged on with the same user name, and they all

have admin rights.

I see no security tab on the XP machine to set permissions from. I do see

the tab from the Vista machine, but get a message that changing permissions

frm there on the XP machine is forbidden. In fact most alterations that I try

seem to be invisible or forbidden.

Is the problem that the machines mainly log on with no password? All I want

to achieve is the situation that occurred in XP, where a directory could be

shared in such a way that anyone with the right username on the right

workgroup could access it. Are there simple instructions anywhere regarding

how to achieve this in Vista?

The local network consists of 4 desktop machines, plus 4 wireless laptops.

Approx 6 other laptops are allowed to join when on this site by specifically

enabling and identifying them to the router.

[Guest Mr. Arnold]

"wildduck200" <wildduck200@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

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> "Mr. Arnold" wrote:

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>>

>> "wildduck200" <wildduck200@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

>> news:B562E014-C7D1-4746-9A6A-56C74B12D954@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > I'm trying to copy an executable file, downloaded from the Microsoft

>> > website

>> > from the Windows XP SP2 machine to this Vista SP1 machine. Everything

>> > looks

>> > right up to the point of copying, then I get a message saying that I

>> > don't

>> > have permission and to try again. I can't get past this.

>> > I have permission set on both machines to everyone, both are on the

>> > same

>> > workgroup, and I've tried with UAC on and off. I've now got the

>> > firewall

>> > off

>> > at the Vista end. I can copy happily between the XP machine and the

>> > other

>> > older XP machines. I have AVG 8 on both machines.</span>

>>

>> Accounts on a folder and permissions can supersede another account.

>> Admin

>> being set to one thing and Everyone set to something else or machine

>> nameUsers having a different permission setting from everything.

>>

>> Also, you made need to take Ownership of the folder.

>>

>> You can also use Authenticated User Group, which means the same user

>> account

>> must be established on both machines.

>>

>></span>

> I am sorry, but this is what I don't understand. The workgroup has a

> standard name everywhere here, and machines joining have to join the same

> workgroup. Each machine is logged on with the same user name, and they all

> have admin rights.

> I see no security tab on the XP machine to set permissions from. I do see

> the tab from the Vista machine, but get a message that changing

> permissions

> frm there on the XP machine is forbidden. In fact most alterations that I

> try

> seem to be invisible or forbidden.</span>

 

This Home or Pro XP if Pro, then you have disable Simple File Sharing in

order to go to Security on XP when you go to Explore and Properties for

folder, by right-clicking. If Home, then you should move the file to the

default share folder, which you should have used a share folder you created

if it's Pro.

 

<span style="color:blue">

> Is the problem that the machines mainly log on with no password? All I

> want

> to achieve is the situation that occurred in XP, where a directory could

> be

> shared in such a way that anyone with the right username on the right

> workgroup could access it. Are there simple instructions anywhere

> regarding

> how to achieve this in Vista?</span>

 

You make a share on Vista just like you would on XP pro, by using Explorer

and right-clicking the folder to share.

 

Once again, use Authenticated User group on shares, go to Advanced Button

on Vista or Permissions button on XP if you can set security on the share.

You remove Everyone off of the share and use Authenticated user group.

 

Also, the Everyone in using the Advanced button for a share on Vista may be

set to a read only permission, superseding all other accounts.

 

Note: I am not talking about Properties/Security tab from using Explorer and

right clicking.

 

A share has it's own special permission that are a root permission for the

share, and it not folder permissions. They are share permissions.