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Guest Will
Posted

Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?

 

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Will

Guest Doug McIntyre
Posted

"Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:<span style="color:blue">

>Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

>that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

>need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?</span>

 

Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

model for ongoing A/V protection.

 

You could probably do something like this by combining together

something like BartPE or WindowsPE boot disks with Clamwin so that can

you can boot (or even PXE boot) off CD and run Clamwin to scan files

on the mounted hard drive.

Guest FromTheRafters
Posted

Has Clamwin now gone beyond the mostly email scanning

database? I recall that Clam's original purpose had been to

look for the types of malware that you would expect to find

in the email environment and misused as an all around scanner

by many of the open source proponents.

 

It shouldn't be any problem inspecting the files, but affecting

them is another matter.

 

"Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:blue">

> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:<span style="color:green">

>>Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

>>that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

>>need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?</span>

>

> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

> model for ongoing A/V protection.

>

> You could probably do something like this by combining together

> something like BartPE or WindowsPE boot disks with Clamwin so that can

> you can boot (or even PXE boot) off CD and run Clamwin to scan files

> on the mounted hard drive.

>

>

>

>

> </span>

Guest Will
Posted

"Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:blue">

> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:<span style="color:green">

>>Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

>>that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

>>need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?</span>

>

> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

> model for ongoing A/V protection.</span>

 

Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy to

subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The rootkit

simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the virus checker only

the data it wants the checker to see.

 

Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees that all

files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and application that is

not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It would be an extremely good

way of checking for hidden files or folders that would otherwise be hidden

from view if the rootkit were active.

 

It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a bootable CD.

 

--

Will

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

From: "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam>

 

| "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

| news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

>> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:<span style="color:darkred">

>>>Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

>>>that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

>>>need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?</span></span></span>

<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

>> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

>> model for ongoing A/V protection.</span></span>

 

| Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

| intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy to

| subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The rootkit

| simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the virus checker only

| the data it wants the checker to see.

 

| Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees that all

| files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and application that is

| not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It would be an extremely good

| way of checking for hidden files or folders that would otherwise be hidden

| from view if the rootkit were active.

 

| It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a bootable CD.

 

| --

| Will

 

 

 

The problem is by nature a CDROM is Read-Only and thus can't be updated easily. Thus, its

signature would go out of date rather rapidly.

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Guest David B.
Posted

Both Avira and Kaspersky have a free boot CD scanner available.

 

http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/12/avira_a...cue_system.html

http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

 

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Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

 

 

"Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

news:P-CdnR39nbGKIvbVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:blue">

> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot CD

> that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

> need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?

>

> --

> Will

>

> </span>

Guest Will
Posted

A well-made product of the kind I am describing contains a program to create

that boot CD on demand, from the latest updates.

 

It's the same model that ERD Commander uses to build new recovery boot CDs,

installing different sets of device drivers on each build.

 

If you have a suspect computer, you would go to the "safe" computer,

download the latest virus files, then build a new boot CD and use it the

same day to do your inspection of the infected computer.

 

--

Will

 

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

news:eyW2kaP3IHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> From: "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam>

>

> | "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

> | news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

> >> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:

> >>>Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot</span></span></span>

CD<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

> >>>that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without</span></span></span>

any<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

> >>>need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?</span></span>

><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

> >> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

> >> model for ongoing A/V protection.</span></span>

>

> | Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

> | intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy to

> | subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The</span>

rootkit<span style="color:blue">

> | simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the virus checker</span>

only<span style="color:blue">

> | the data it wants the checker to see.

>

> | Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees that</span>

all<span style="color:blue">

> | files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and application that</span>

is<span style="color:blue">

> | not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It would be an extremely</span>

good<span style="color:blue">

> | way of checking for hidden files or folders that would otherwise be</span>

hidden<span style="color:blue">

> | from view if the rootkit were active.

>

> | It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a bootable</span>

CD.<span style="color:blue">

>

> | --

> | Will

>

>

>

> The problem is by nature a CDROM is Read-Only and thus can't be updated</span>

easily. Thus, its<span style="color:blue">

> signature would go out of date rather rapidly.

>

> --

> Dave

> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

></span>

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

From: "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam>

 

| A well-made product of the kind I am describing contains a program to create

| that boot CD on demand, from the latest updates.

 

| It's the same model that ERD Commander uses to build new recovery boot CDs,

| installing different sets of device drivers on each build.

 

| If you have a suspect computer, you would go to the "safe" computer,

| download the latest virus files, then build a new boot CD and use it the

| same day to do your inspection of the infected computer.

 

| --

| Will

 

That's true. I explain such a concept in using a surrugate PC to download updates for my

Multi AV Scanning tool and transferring the Multi AV to a thumb drive (or media,

preferrably Read/Write media) and then to an infected PC and boot from a DOS Disk or a DOS

disk with NTFS4DOS.

 

 

Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --

http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

 

http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

 

English:

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...virus-for-free/

 

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Guest Will
Posted

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message

news:uf$ZZBV3IHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> From: "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam>

>

> | A well-made product of the kind I am describing contains a program to

> create

> | that boot CD on demand, from the latest updates.

>

> | It's the same model that ERD Commander uses to build new recovery boot

> CDs,

> | installing different sets of device drivers on each build.

>

> | If you have a suspect computer, you would go to the "safe" computer,

> | download the latest virus files, then build a new boot CD and use it the

> | same day to do your inspection of the infected computer.

>

> | --

> | Will

>

> That's true. I explain such a concept in using a surrugate PC to download

> updates for my

> Multi AV Scanning tool and transferring the Multi AV to a thumb drive (or

> media,

> preferrably Read/Write media) and then to an infected PC and boot from a

> DOS Disk or a DOS

> disk with NTFS4DOS.

>

>

> Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --

> http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

>

> http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

> English:

> http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...virus-for-free/</span>

 

The idea of combining multiple anti-virus programs to one integrated

environment is nice. You would think someone would have figured out how to

sell that as a subscription service and then send out a new CD every two

weeks and charge for it? I would gladly pay and do not have the time to

put these kinds of packages together and then constantly update them.

 

--

Will

Guest Will
Posted

That's great stuff. We have a winner. Thanks!

 

--

Will

 

"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message

news:ep8e91Q3IHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> Both Avira and Kaspersky have a free boot CD scanner available.

>

> http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/12/avira_a...cue_system.html

> http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

>

> --

>

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

>

>

> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

> news:P-CdnR39nbGKIvbVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:green">

>> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot

>> CD

>> that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without any

>> need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?

>>

>> --

>> Will

>>

>></span>

> </span>

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

From: "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam>

 

 

 

| The idea of combining multiple anti-virus programs to one integrated

| environment is nice. You would think someone would have figured out how to

| sell that as a subscription service and then send out a new CD every two

| weeks and charge for it? I would gladly pay and do not have the time to

| put these kinds of packages together and then constantly update them.

 

| --

| Will

 

I provide the Multi AV Scanning Tool as CareWare.

 

If you find the tool useful and it has helped you -- Don't donate to me, donaye to

charity. :-)

 

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Guest Will
Posted

The Kaspersky boot CD simply shuts down the computer when it gets to the

graphics display. It has a "safe" mode that looks like a simple bash

shell, and I have no idea what to do there. Clearly an experimental

project for them....

 

The Avira boots, but it looks like a very simple tool.

 

--

Will

 

"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message

news:ep8e91Q3IHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> Both Avira and Kaspersky have a free boot CD scanner available.

>

> http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/12/avira_a...cue_system.html

> http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

>

> --

>

> ----

> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>

>

>

> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

> news:P-CdnR39nbGKIvbVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:green">

> > Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot</span></span>

CD<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

> > that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without</span></span>

any<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

> > need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?

> >

> > --

> > Will

> >

> ></span>

></span>

Guest Twayne
Posted

> "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message<span style="color:blue">

> news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:green">

>> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:<span style="color:darkred">

>>> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a

>>> boot CD that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or

>>> viruses without any need to boot the OS on the file system you are

>>> inspecting?</span>

>>

>> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

>> model for ongoing A/V protection.</span>

>

> Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

> intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy

> to subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The

> rootkit simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the

> virus checker only the data it wants the checker to see.

>

> Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees

> that all files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and

> application that is not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It

> would be an extremely good way of checking for hidden files or

> folders that would otherwise be hidden from view if the rootkit were

> active.

> It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a

> bootable CD.</span>

 

Norton and, I think McAfee both allow that, actually. The only gotcha

is that only PART of the inspection can be done that way. Since virus

profiles are constantly changing, it will still have to access the drive

to get those signatures. But, it's still a very reliable way of

handling infections on PCs. A CD, once written and its session closed,

is not going to be affected by any virus or malware of any kind. So,

yes, the do it with the exception of using the signature files on the

hard drive.

I can't understand why everyone is saying no one does it; I just

pulled out my CD to make sure I'm right, and, well, I'm right! <g>.

Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV process automagically starts,

and off we go. It's not new; been this way for a long, long time.

Guest Will
Posted

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

news:eRJPHGj3IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

> > "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

> > news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...<span style="color:darkred">

> >> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:

> >>> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a

> >>> boot CD that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or

> >>> viruses without any need to boot the OS on the file system you are

> >>> inspecting?

> >>

> >> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

> >> model for ongoing A/V protection.</span>

> >

> > Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

> > intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy

> > to subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The

> > rootkit simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the

> > virus checker only the data it wants the checker to see.

> >

> > Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees

> > that all files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and

> > application that is not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It

> > would be an extremely good way of checking for hidden files or

> > folders that would otherwise be hidden from view if the rootkit were

> > active.

> > It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a

> > bootable CD.</span>

>

> Norton and, I think McAfee both allow that, actually. The only gotcha

> is that only PART of the inspection can be done that way. Since virus

> profiles are constantly changing, it will still have to access the drive

> to get those signatures. But, it's still a very reliable way of

> handling infections on PCs. A CD, once written and its session closed,

> is not going to be affected by any virus or malware of any kind. So,

> yes, the do it with the exception of using the signature files on the

> hard drive.

> I can't understand why everyone is saying no one does it; I just

> pulled out my CD to make sure I'm right, and, well, I'm right! <g>.

> Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV process automagically starts,

> and off we go. It's not new; been this way for a long, long time.</span>

 

What you are describing is a way to run a virus checker from a CD after

booting the OS on the affected system. The problem with that approach is

that a rootkit virus can alter the operating system calls to disguise what

is on the disk.

 

The c:\windows folder might contain a subdirectory named evilvirustoolkit,

but as long as you boot your OS under the control of the rootkit that folder

stays invisible to every application on the system, including your virus

checker.

 

What I was asking for was a virus checker that boots from its own operating

system embedded on a CD . That way there is no involvement with infected

OS code on the system being inspected.

 

--

Will

Guest Al Dunbar
Posted

"Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

news:JfydnQ3UJ91BXPPVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:blue">

> "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

> news:eRJPHGj3IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

>> > "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

>> > news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...

>> >> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:

>> >>> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a

>> >>> boot CD that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or

>> >>> viruses without any need to boot the OS on the file system you are

>> >>> inspecting?

>> >>

>> >> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

>> >> model for ongoing A/V protection.

>> >

>> > Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

>> > intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy

>> > to subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The

>> > rootkit simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the

>> > virus checker only the data it wants the checker to see.

>> >

>> > Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees

>> > that all files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and

>> > application that is not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It

>> > would be an extremely good way of checking for hidden files or

>> > folders that would otherwise be hidden from view if the rootkit were

>> > active.

>> > It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a

>> > bootable CD.</span>

>>

>> Norton and, I think McAfee both allow that, actually. The only gotcha

>> is that only PART of the inspection can be done that way. Since virus

>> profiles are constantly changing, it will still have to access the drive

>> to get those signatures. But, it's still a very reliable way of

>> handling infections on PCs. A CD, once written and its session closed,

>> is not going to be affected by any virus or malware of any kind. So,

>> yes, the do it with the exception of using the signature files on the

>> hard drive.

>> I can't understand why everyone is saying no one does it; I just

>> pulled out my CD to make sure I'm right, and, well, I'm right! <g>.

>> Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV process automagically starts,

>> and off we go. It's not new; been this way for a long, long time.</span>

>

> What you are describing is a way to run a virus checker from a CD after

> booting the OS on the affected system.</span>

 

Re-read what Twayne wrote: "Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV

process automagically starts". to me that means booting from the CD, not

booting the OS installed on the machine.

 

/Al

<span style="color:blue">

> The problem with that approach is

> that a rootkit virus can alter the operating system calls to disguise what

> is on the disk.

>

> The c:windows folder might contain a subdirectory named evilvirustoolkit,

> but as long as you boot your OS under the control of the rootkit that

> folder

> stays invisible to every application on the system, including your virus

> checker.

>

> What I was asking for was a virus checker that boots from its own

> operating

> system embedded on a CD . That way there is no involvement with infected

> OS code on the system being inspected.

>

> --

> Will

>

> </span>

Guest Will
Posted

"Al Dunbar" <AlanDrub@hotmail.com.nospaam> wrote in message

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>

> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

> news:JfydnQ3UJ91BXPPVnZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:green">

>> "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message

>> news:eRJPHGj3IHA.3500@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred">

>>> > "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn@geeks.org> wrote in message

>>> > news:486bd948$0$60075$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net...

>>> >> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> writes:

>>> >>> Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a

>>> >>> boot CD that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or

>>> >>> viruses without any need to boot the OS on the file system you are

>>> >>> inspecting?

>>> >>

>>> >> Thats not going to be too common, because its not a very effective

>>> >> model for ongoing A/V protection.

>>> >

>>> > Day-to-day protection has to balance many different issues like

>>> > intrusiveness and performance on a system under use. It's very easy

>>> > to subvert modern virus checking programs with root kit viruses. The

>>> > rootkit simply rewrites kernel functions and reports back to the

>>> > virus checker only the data it wants the checker to see.

>>> >

>>> > Booting from a standalone CD is the only approach that guarantees

>>> > that all files on the file system can be inspected by an OS and

>>> > application that is not under control of a trojan or rootkit. It

>>> > would be an extremely good way of checking for hidden files or

>>> > folders that would otherwise be hidden from view if the rootkit were

>>> > active.

>>> > It's a shame if no anti-virus vendor has seen to create such a

>>> > bootable CD.

>>>

>>> Norton and, I think McAfee both allow that, actually. The only gotcha

>>> is that only PART of the inspection can be done that way. Since virus

>>> profiles are constantly changing, it will still have to access the drive

>>> to get those signatures. But, it's still a very reliable way of

>>> handling infections on PCs. A CD, once written and its session closed,

>>> is not going to be affected by any virus or malware of any kind. So,

>>> yes, the do it with the exception of using the signature files on the

>>> hard drive.

>>> I can't understand why everyone is saying no one does it; I just

>>> pulled out my CD to make sure I'm right, and, well, I'm right! <g>.

>>> Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV process automagically starts,

>>> and off we go. It's not new; been this way for a long, long time.</span>

>>

>> What you are describing is a way to run a virus checker from a CD after

>> booting the OS on the affected system.</span>

>

> Re-read what Twayne wrote: "Toss it in the drive, boot from it, the AV

> process automagically starts". to me that means booting from the CD, not

> booting the OS installed on the machine.</span>

 

I guess I can go buy one and find out. I did read what he wrote, but

somehow thought he didn't mean it as he literally said it.

 

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Will

 

<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

>> The problem with that approach is

>> that a rootkit virus can alter the operating system calls to disguise

>> what

>> is on the disk.

>>

>> The c:windows folder might contain a subdirectory named

>> evilvirustoolkit,

>> but as long as you boot your OS under the control of the rootkit that

>> folder

>> stays invisible to every application on the system, including your virus

>> checker.

>>

>> What I was asking for was a virus checker that boots from its own

>> operating

>> system embedded on a CD . That way there is no involvement with

>> infected

>> OS code on the system being inspected.

>>

>> --

>> Will

>>

>></span>

>

> </span>

Guest David B.
Posted

Haven't seen that behavior on any machines I've run it on.

Simple means nothing, as long as it accomplishes the task it's designed to

do, which is scan for nasties.

 

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Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

 

 

 

"Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

news:qISdndd-R45dNPPVnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:blue">

> The Kaspersky boot CD simply shuts down the computer when it gets to the

> graphics display. It has a "safe" mode that looks like a simple bash

> shell, and I have no idea what to do there. Clearly an experimental

> project for them....

>

> The Avira boots, but it looks like a very simple tool.

>

> --

> Will

>

> "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message

> news:ep8e91Q3IHA.2524@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>> Both Avira and Kaspersky have a free boot CD scanner available.

>>

>> http://www.free-av.com/en/tools/12/avira_a...cue_system.html

>> http://ftp.kaspersky.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk/

>>

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>>

>> ----

>> Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

>> How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375

>>

>>

>>

>> "Will" <westes-usc@noemail.nospam> wrote in message

>> news:P-CdnR39nbGKIvbVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@giganews.com...<span style="color:darkred">

>> > Can someone recommend an anti-virus solution that lets you build a boot</span></span>

> CD<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

>> > that will inspect the NTFS file system for trojans or viruses without</span></span>

> any<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

>> > need to boot the OS on the file system you are inspecting?

>> >

>> > --

>> > Will

>> >

>> ></span>

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> </span>

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