Guest David-in-NH Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have sucessfully downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this update? Quote
Guest Michael D. Ober Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 "David-in-NH" <DavidinNH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:48B848AA-F976-48BA-ADF7-205EA4CC45F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have >sucessfully > downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > Pack > 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. > I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What > can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this > update? ></span> Uninstall the update. Then find the update on MS's web-site and download the manual installation package and install it from there. I have a couple of installation packages that I had to do this for. It appears the Vista updates are not as rock solid as the XP updates. Mike Ober. Quote
Guest Mr. Arnold Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 "David-in-NH" <DavidinNH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:48B848AA-F976-48BA-ADF7-205EA4CC45F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have >sucessfully > downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > Pack > 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. > I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What > can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this > update?</span> You tell Windows Update to not include the update. That would require that you put Windows Update in manual mode, you view the list of updates, you select the update you don't want, you right-click it, and you tell it to hide the update. You do that, and it's not coming to the machine in the updates. Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 David, Here's the MS Download Center link: Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 (KB936181) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...b8-185639ba2807 You are correct about KB936181 Mike, except the issue is not limited to Vista : Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 (KB936181) may repeatedly appear in the update list on Microsoft Update or on Windows Update http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941729 Applies to Automatic Updates as well even if the KB doesn't mention it. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] =============== -343- FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Michael D. Ober wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "David-in-NH" <DavidinNH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:48B848AA-F976-48BA-ADF7-205EA4CC45F6@microsoft.com... > <span style="color:green"> >> I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have >> sucessfully >> downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 >> Service Pack >> 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. >> I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What >> can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this >> update? >></span> > > > Uninstall the update. Then find the update on MS's web-site and > download the manual installation package and install it from there. I > have a couple of installation packages that I had to do this for. It > appears the Vista updates are not as rock solid as the XP updates. > > Mike Ober. > > </span> Quote
Guest David-in-NH Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Thanks for the response. However, when I go to programs & features/installed updates, KB936181 is not listed. But in my update history, I see that it was "sucessfully installed" 11 times BEGINNING 7/14. Following MOWGREEN's input, I went to http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...b8-185639ba2807 and saved the download. But when I try to open it, I get the message..."Error opening log file. Verify that the specific log file location exists + is writable." Now I've gone from 8 to 11 updates "sucessfully installed". I'm reluctant to instruct UPDATE to disregard this update since it ts marked "important". If this update is truly imortant, why hasn't Microsoft fixed this download problem??? Is this somehow related to the auto update to SP1 I received on 7/13? David-in-NH ----------- "Michael D. Ober" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "David-in-NH" <DavidinNH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:48B848AA-F976-48BA-ADF7-205EA4CC45F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> > >I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have > >sucessfully > > downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > > Pack > > 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. > > I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What > > can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this > > update? > ></span> > > > Uninstall the update. Then find the update on MS's web-site and download > the manual installation package and install it from there. I have a couple > of installation packages that I had to do this for. It appears the Vista > updates are not as rock solid as the XP updates. > > Mike Ober. > > > </span> Quote
Guest Jay Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 Hi Sorry to interrupt but i have almost same problem.Yesterday i installed Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 (KB936181) but today and it sows again new update available KB9361833(I think i dont remmember properly maybe wrong coz i search for this and no results ) coz i was stressed and clicked Hide this so its gone.when I go to programs & features/installed updates, KB936181 is not listed thr . But update history, I see that it was installed.So now what should i do ???Im using Visat ultimate service pack 1 -- Jay ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jay's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15399 Quote
Guest Nonny Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:14:22 +0530, Jay <Jay.3cxx3t@winvistaclub.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >Hi Sorry to interrupt </span> You're not only interrupting, you're hijacking the thread. Start a new thread rather than jump into someone else's when you have a problem that is "almost same".. <span style="color:blue"> > but i have almost same problem.Yesterday i >installed Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service >Pack 2 (KB936181) but today and it sows again new update available >KB9361833(I think i dont remmember properly maybe wrong coz i search for >this and no results ) coz i was stressed and clicked Hide this so its >gone.when I go to programs & features/installed >updates, KB936181 is not listed thr . But update history, I see that >it was >installed.So now what should i do ???Im using Visat ultimate service >pack 1</span> Quote
Guest t-4-2 Posted July 22, 2008 Posted July 22, 2008 David-in-NH;781945 Wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have > sucessfully > downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > Pack > 2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. > I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! > What > can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this > update?</span> Jay;782975 Wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi Sorry to interrupt but i have almost same problem.Yesterday i > installed Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > Pack 2 (KB936181) but today and it sows again new update available > KB9361833(I think i dont remmember properly maybe wrong coz i search > for > this and no results ) coz i was stressed and clicked Hide this so its > gone.when I go to programs & features/installed > updates, KB936181 is not listed thr . But update history, I see that > it was > installed.So now what should i do ???Im using Visat ultimate service > pack 1 > > > -- > Jay > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jay's Profile: 'Windows Vista Help Forum - View Profile: Jay' > (http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=61) > View this thread: 'Windows update keeps downloading same update - > Windows Vista Help Forum' > (http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15399)</span> Hello David and Jay, Go to Check for Update window, right click on KB936181, click HIDE. That's it. you won't see it again. -- t-4-2 Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 HIDING the update does NOT mitigate the vulnerability that it addresses. Perhaps you need to read this: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS07-042.mspx MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] =============== -343- FDNY Never Forgotten =============== t-4-2 wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > David-in-NH;781945 Wrote: > <span style="color:green"> >>I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have >>sucessfully >>downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service >>Pack >>2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. >>I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! >>What >>can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this >>update?</span> > > > Jay;782975 Wrote: > <span style="color:green"> >>Hi Sorry to interrupt but i have almost same problem.Yesterday i >>installed Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service >>Pack 2 (KB936181) but today and it sows again new update available >>KB9361833(I think i dont remmember properly maybe wrong coz i search >>for >>this and no results ) coz i was stressed and clicked Hide this so its >>gone.when I go to programs & features/installed >>updates, KB936181 is not listed thr . But update history, I see that >>it was >>installed.So now what should i do ???Im using Visat ultimate service >>pack 1 >> >> >>-- >>Jay >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Jay's Profile: 'Windows Vista Help Forum - View Profile: Jay' >>(http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=61) >>View this thread: 'Windows update keeps downloading same update - >>Windows Vista Help Forum' >>(http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15399)</span> > > > > Hello David and Jay, > Go to Check for Update window, right click on KB936181, click HIDE. > That's it. you won't see it again. > > </span> Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 David ... see this KB: Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service Pack 2 (KB936181) may repeatedly appear in the update list on Microsoft Update or on Windows Update http://support.microsoft.com/kb/941729 In Vista you'll need to open an Elevated Command Prompt for the resolution to work. command.com [cmd] is located in WINDOWS\system32 and can be found from Start Search by entering cmd Right click it and choose 'Run as administrator' Follow the prompts and then follow the KB article to rename msxml4.dll Is HP software installed ? If the answer is yes, than that is what's keeping msxml4.dll in use and preventing it from being updated properly. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] =============== -343- FDNY Never Forgotten =============== David-in-NH wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Thanks for the response. However, when I go to programs & features/installed > updates, KB936181 is not listed. But in my update history, I see that it was > "sucessfully installed" 11 times BEGINNING 7/14. > Following MOWGREEN's input, I went to > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details...b8-185639ba2807 > and saved the download. But when I try to open it, I get the > message..."Error opening log file. Verify that the specific log file location > exists + is writable." Now I've gone from 8 to 11 updates "sucessfully > installed". I'm reluctant to instruct UPDATE to disregard this update since > it ts marked "important". If this update is truly imortant, why hasn't > Microsoft fixed this download problem??? Is this somehow related to the auto > update to SP1 I received on 7/13? > David-in-NH > ----------- > > "Michael D. Ober" wrote: > > <span style="color:green"> >>"David-in-NH" <DavidinNH@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>news:48B848AA-F976-48BA-ADF7-205EA4CC45F6@microsoft.com... >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have >>>sucessfully >>>downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service >>>Pack >>>2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. >>>I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! What >>>can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this >>>update? >>></span> >> >> >>Uninstall the update. Then find the update on MS's web-site and download >>the manual installation package and install it from there. I have a couple >>of installation packages that I had to do this for. It appears the Vista >>updates are not as rock solid as the XP updates. >> >>Mike Ober. >> >> >></span></span> Quote
Guest t-4-2 Posted July 23, 2008 Posted July 23, 2008 'MowGreen [MVP Wrote: <span style=color:blue"> > ;784206]HIDING the update does NOT mitigate the vulnerability that it > addresses. > Perhaps you need to read this: > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS07-042.mspx > > MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] > =============== > -343- FDNY > Never Forgotten > =============== > > > > t-4-2 wrote:<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > > > > > David-in-NH;781945 Wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>I keep getting the notice "New updates are available", and I have > > > >>sucessfully > > > >>downloading Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 > > > Service > > > >>Pack > > > >>2 (KB936181) 8 times in the past 6 days. > > > >>I have restarted Windows several times, but the updates keep coming! > > > >>What > > > >>can I do to satisfy Microsoft that I have sucessfully installed this > > > >>update?> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jay;782975 Wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >>Hi Sorry to interrupt but i have almost same problem.Yesterday i > > > >>installed Security Update for Microsoft XML Core Services 4.0 Service > > > >>Pack 2 (KB936181) but today and it sows again new update available > > > >>KB9361833(I think i dont remmember properly maybe wrong coz i search > > > >>for > > > >>this and no results ) coz i was stressed and clicked Hide this so its > > > >>gone.when I go to programs & features/installed > > > >>updates, KB936181 is not listed thr . But update history, I see that > > > >>it was > > > >>installed.So now what should i do ???Im using Visat ultimate service > > > >>pack 1 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>-- > > > >>Jay > > > >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >>Jay's Profile: 'Windows Vista Help Forum - View Profile: Jay' > > > >>('Windows Vista Help Forum - View Profile: Jay' > > > (http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=61)) > > > >>View this thread: 'Windows update keeps downloading same update - > > > >>Windows Vista Help Forum' > > > >>('Windows update keeps downloading same update - Windows Vista Help > > > Forum' (http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15399))> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello David and Jay, > > > Go to Check for Update window, right click on KB936181, click</span> > > HIDE.<span style="color:darkred"> > > > That's it. you won't see it again. > > > > > > > > </span></span></span> There is a misunderstanding . I suggested " Hide " option because the update had ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED several times. I was not suggesting NOT to install the update. -- t-4-2 Quote
Guest Paul Adare - MVP Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:16 -0700, MowGreen [MVP] wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > In Vista you'll need to open an Elevated Command Prompt for the > resolution to work. > command.com [cmd] is located in WINDOWSsystem32 and can be found from > Start Search by entering cmd</span> Not command.com but cmd.exe. -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca Modem: A contraction. As in "Give me some modem cookies." Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 t-4-2 wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > 'MowGreen [MVP Wrote: > <span style=color:green"> >>;784206]HIDING the update does NOT mitigate the vulnerability that it >>addresses. >>Perhaps you need to read this: >> >>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/...n/MS07-042.mspx >> >>MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008] >>=============== >> -343- FDNY >>Never Forgotten >>=============== >> >> >> >>t-4-2 wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>>> >>>></span></span> > There is a misunderstanding . I suggested " Hide " option because the > update had ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED several times. I was not suggesting > NOT to install the update. > > </span> Yes, the misunderstanding is that msxml4.dll is NOT being updated properly. Therefore KB936181 is continually reoffered. The issue is not in the detection of the update rather, it's the failure of KB936181 to install properly thus replacing msxml4.dll with the "secure" version, 4.20.9848.0 . So in this situation, hiding the update is not advised. One needs to confirm that the update has installed properly by checking the Version number and not rely on the entry in ARP. MG Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Paul Adare - MVP wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:51:16 -0700, MowGreen [MVP] wrote: > > <span style="color:green"> >>In Vista you'll need to open an Elevated Command Prompt for the >>resolution to work. >>command.com [cmd] is located in WINDOWSsystem32 and can be found from >>Start Search by entering cmd</span> > > > Not command.com but cmd.exe. > </span> Grazi, Paul. MG Quote
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