Guest Father Haskell Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Uncle Vic wrote: > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > > > Uncle Vic wrote: > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > >> > >> > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> Heh heh... Maria. > > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... > > > > > > There's a hot wind > On my shoulder > Blowin' in from south of the border.... Wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana... Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Richo wrote: > Bill M wrote: > > Another god question. > > > > Why are you so interested in gods? > Why should anyone else give a damn? > Pick one you like, worship it in private and just stop obsessing over > it! > > > > > If this all loving god > > "this" god? Which god? > What's his/her/its name? > Does he have a majic hammer that makes thunder and lightning? > > > created the Universe and everything in it, why was he > > so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis, > > Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc. > > > > Ah! The nasty God of the Old Testament! > You really are obsessed with that one. > Pick a better one. There are heaps to choose from. Perkele, the Finnish fire god, for starters. Millions of Finns call upon him daily. Quote
Guest Tuco Ramirez Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Father Haskell wrote: > Uncle Vic wrote: > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell > > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > > > > > > Uncle Vic wrote: > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito > > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> Heh heh... Maria. > > > > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... > > > > > > > > > > There's a hot wind > > On my shoulder > > Blowin' in from south of the border.... > > Wish I was in Tijuana, > eating barbecued iguana... You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is. You don't want to know what it really is, senor. Quote
Guest Father Haskell Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Tuco Ramirez wrote: > Father Haskell wrote: > > Uncle Vic wrote: > > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell > > > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > > > > > > > > > Uncle Vic wrote: > > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez > > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito > > > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> Heh heh... Maria. > > > > > > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a hot wind > > > On my shoulder > > > Blowin' in from south of the border.... > > > > Wish I was in Tijuana, > > eating barbecued iguana... > > You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is. > You don't want to know what it really is, senor. No, not enough meat on a cat. It's all bones and tendons. Don't ask me how I know. Quote
Guest Tuco Ramirez Posted October 3, 2006 Posted October 3, 2006 Father Haskell wrote: > Tuco Ramirez wrote: > > Father Haskell wrote: > > > Uncle Vic wrote: > > > > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell > > > > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Uncle Vic wrote: > > > > >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez > > > > >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito > > > > >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> Heh heh... Maria. > > > > > > > > > > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a hot wind > > > > On my shoulder > > > > Blowin' in from south of the border.... > > > > > > Wish I was in Tijuana, > > > eating barbecued iguana... > > > > You silly gringo, that's what we you tell it is. > > You don't want to know what it really is, senor. > > No, not enough meat on a cat. It's all bones > and tendons. > > Don't ask me how I know. Don't need to, I know senor, I know. Does this mean you have tried the Cat-a-la-Meow, it's a leftover from the days of Maximilliam? Good, isn't it? Quote
Guest Uncle Vic Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > > Uncle Vic wrote: >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell >> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: >> >> > >> > Uncle Vic wrote: >> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez >> >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito >> >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> Heh heh... Maria. >> > >> > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... >> > >> > >> >> There's a hot wind >> On my shoulder >> Blowin' in from south of the border.... > > Wish I was in Tijuana, > eating barbecued iguana... > > I hear the talking of the DJ Can't understand just what does he say? -- Uncle Vic aa Atheist #2011 Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department. Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Quote
Guest Frank Mayhar Posted October 4, 2006 Posted October 4, 2006 On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:25:50 -0500, Uncle Vic wrote: > Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell > (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: > >> >> Uncle Vic wrote: >>> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Father Haskell >>> (fatherhaskell@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: >>> >>> > >>> > Uncle Vic wrote: >>> >> Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Tuco Ramirez >>> >> (tucodrat@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this: >>> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > There can be more than 1 Duce, but there is only 1 Tuco Benedito >>> >> > Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> Heh heh... Maria. >>> > >>> > Maria... Maria.... yes, they called the wind mar-ia... >>> > >>> > >>> >>> There's a hot wind >>> On my shoulder >>> Blowin' in from south of the border.... >> >> Wish I was in Tijuana, >> eating barbecued iguana... >> >> > > I hear the talking of the DJ > Can't understand just what does he say? I understand just a little, No comprende it's a riddle! -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/ Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 Bill M wrote: > Another god question. > > > > If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was he > so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis, > Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc. > > > > Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god? Easy.. In the Christain view, God created man to live in a perfect World. But he also gave him free will. That free will led him to the knowledge of good and evil and hence sin and death entered into the World.. Man therefore lives in a Fallen World with all the nasty stuff you mentioned and then some... God does not want robots, he wants people to have free choice. But they can also chose to be redeemed and he has provided the means, at great cost, for them to do so..if they want it. http://www.ourlifeinchrist.com Quote
Guest Libertarius Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 marcinmd wrote: > Bill M wrote: > >>Another god question. >> >> >> >>If this all loving god created the Universe and everything in it, why was he >>so cruel that he created 12,000 illnesses and killing Plagues, Tsunamis, >>Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions, Earth Quakes, Wars, Floods etc. >> >> >> >>Is this evidence of an all powerful and loving god? > > > Easy.. > > In the Christain view, God created man to live in a perfect World. But > he also gave him free will. That free will led him to the knowledge of > good and evil and hence sin and death entered into the World.. Man > therefore lives in a Fallen World with all the nasty stuff you > mentioned and then some... ===>Can't you guys see how idiotic it is to believe a FAIRY TALE that all this happened because a man, sculpted by an alien named YHWH, dared to eat a fruit? It is incredible how stupid human beings can be! -- L. Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in it is an accident? Even superficial observation of nature would lead a reasonable person to see a divine hand. That is why almost every society advanced and primitive alike have assumed some sort of Divine root to creation.. It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. Multiple dimensions, the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. Albert Einstein was hardly an "idiot" and he believe in God as the root source of creation.. Atheism simply does not answer the question "Why is there something rather than nothing" . Why would only Material be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with ceding authority above their own personal ego's. As far as creation myths go, they should not be read like a blueprint as to.. HOW.. things were created. They explain.. WHY.. the World was created, which is an infinitely more valuable message. Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 On 17 Oct 2006 12:27:12 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > >Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in >it is an accident? Even superficial observation of nature would lead a >reasonable person to see a divine hand. That is why almost every >society advanced and primitive alike have assumed some sort of Divine >root to creation.. Argument from ignorance. You don't know therefore you invent a seperbeing out of nothing and insist that it did it, with no justification. >It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As Bullshit. Look up "Seneca" and tell us when he lived. ALso the Baron d'Holbach. >people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic >wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the >natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many >assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. Bullshit. It has refuted many more Christian assumptions. > Multiple dimensions, >the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been >increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. Point out where tehse are "Judeo Christian assumptions". Hint: they're not - it's post hoc rationalisation. >Albert Einstein was hardly an "idiot" and he believe in God as the >root source of creation.. No, he didn't. He wasn't any kind of theist you would recognise. > Atheism simply does not answer the question >"Why is there something rather than nothing" . Atheism doesn't even have that question, moron. It is part of your religion's metaphysical presumptions, that it pretends to answer. > Why would only Material >be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with >ceding authority above their own personal ego's. Atheists have problems with deliberate in-your-face nastiness from personal liars like you. >As far as creation myths go, they should not be read like a blueprint >as to.. HOW.. things were created. They explain.. WHY.. the World was >created, which is an infinitely more valuable message. No, moron, why PRIMITIVE AND IGNORANT PEOPLE BELIEVED the world was created. Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message news:1161113232.234965.165540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in > it is an accident? Sure, but that still doesn't prove that a god exists. -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557 Quote
Guest Libertarius Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 marcinmd wrote: > Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in > it is an accident? Even superficial observation of nature would lead a > reasonable person to see a divine hand. ===>Can't you see that your claimed "divine hand" is the real "accident"? The cosmic totality of all existence has always existed and will always exist. But a "creator" can only be produced by the human mind that has evolved over billions of years on this planet. It will be interesting some day to find out what intelligent species evolved elswhere in the universe might thing about this human failure to think clearly and realize what a self-contradictory speculation creationism really is. That is why almost every > society advanced and primitive alike have assumed some sort of Divine > root to creation.. ===>Advanced civilizations produced SCIENCE, which has no room for such nonsense. ALL creationistic ideas go back to the primitive stage of humankind, when fables were sufficient to "explain" things. Modern creationism is like the vestigeal organs left over from earlier stages of evolution. > It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. ===>More nonsense. In the ancient Hindu book of Upanishads Brahman ("ultimate reality") is IMPERSONAL. Theravada Buddhism and Jainism reject any notion of a "creator". In the West e.g. Lucretius represents non-theistic thinking. In fact most people are Atheists to some degree. Christians will deny the the Mayan, Hindu, Ancient Roman, Ancient Greek, Ancient Egyptian, Ancient Sumerian, Ancient Baylonian, etc. Gods and Goddesses. As > people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic > wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the > natural order. ===>More stupidity. Whom are you parroting with all this nonsense? At least you should be honest enough to give us your source. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many > assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. Multiple dimensions, > the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been > increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. > > Albert Einstein was hardly an "idiot" and he believe in God as the > root source of creation.. ===>That is another LIE! Einstein said he believed in "Spinoza's God", which Spinoza identified as nothing more or less than NATURE! Atheism simply does not answer the question > "Why is there something rather than nothing" . ===>Can YOU answer the question "WHY AND WHERE IS THERE A GOD"??? You see, you cannot. So, why ask that dumb question. It is like asking why is white white and blue bl;ue. Why would only Material > be eternally existent and not life itself? ===>Because MATTER is seen everywhere. "Life" can be seen NOWHERE. Only LIVING MATTER, which is an ephemeral, temporary for of existence of matter! Atheists have problems with > ceding authority above their own personal ego's. ===>They are not confused and brainwashed like you, who "cedes" authority to ancient fables and contemporary preachers. > > As far as creation myths go, they should not be read like a blueprint > as to.. HOW.. things were created. They explain.. WHY.. the World was > created, which is an infinitely more valuable message. ===>ANOTHER of your lies! There is NOTHING about any "WHY" in ANY of the creation stories. They ALL give a dewcription of HOW! You may give the above some thought, but beware! WARNING: THINKING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR FAITH! -- l. > Quote
Guest Libertarius Posted October 17, 2006 Posted October 17, 2006 Robibnikoff wrote: > "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1161113232.234965.165540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >>Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in >>it is an accident? > > > Sure, but that still doesn't prove that a god exists. ===>Gods can exist by accident, but universes must be created. ;-) -- L. Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 > > Argument from ignorance. You don't know therefore you invent a > seperbeing out of nothing and insist that it did it, with no > justification. The exact same could be said of you..What do you "Know"..When we turn to the most famous physicists who have deeply pondered the nature of reality and the universe by your standards, they agree with me and not with you..Go figure > > >It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As > > Bullshit. Look up "Seneca" and tell us when he lived. Also the Baron > d'Holbach.<< No thanks...Athiesm had no following past the tinest minority until recently.... > > >people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic > >wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the > >natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many > >assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. > > Bullshit. It has refuted many more Christian assumptions.<< Not really.....You just have an agenda and see what you need to see to stay within your little comfort zone > > > Multiple dimensions, > >the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been > >increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. > > Point out where tehse are "Judeo Christian assumptions". Hint: they're > not - it's post hoc rationalisation. > >.. > > No, he didn't. He wasn't any kind of theist you would recognise. Or..You dont know what Orthodox Christians believe and you are making assumptions based on ignorance > > > Atheism simply does not answer the question > >"Why is there something rather than nothing" . > > Atheism doesn't even have that question, moron. It is part of your > religion's metaphysical presumptions, that it pretends to answer.<< Er.. Fine..Atheism falls flat when it is asked why there is something rather than nothing..It cant answer the most basic questions about the nature and origins of existence...Fair question.. But I understand why you dont ask about it... > > > Why would only Material > >be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with > >ceding authority above their own personal ego's. > > > No, moron, You sure do like to name call..dont you? It's a sure sign of a weak case. Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Robibnikoff wrote: > "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message > news:1161113232.234965.165540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in > > it is an accident? > > Sure, but that still doesn't prove that a god exists. Correct, but it does demonstrate that the Athiest World View is flawed. Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 On 17 Oct 2006 18:43:41 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> Argument from ignorance. You don't know therefore you invent a >> seperbeing out of nothing and insist that it did it, with no >> justification. > >The exact same could be said of you..What do you "Know"..When we turn >to the most famous physicists who have deeply pondered the nature of >reality and the universe by your standards, they agree with me and not >with you..Go figure Only in your ignorant fantasies. > > >> >> >It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As >> >> Bullshit. Look up "Seneca" and tell us when he lived. Also the Baron >> d'Holbach.<< Here's a clue, noron, Seneca was bornin 5 BCE. >No thanks...Athiesm had no following past the tinest minority until >recently.... Are you really this stupid, or just pretending? It's not something with a following. Not believing in the deity of your religion is no differet than your not believing is Zeus. >> >people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic >> >wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the >> >natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many >> >assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. >> >> Bullshit. It has refuted many more Christian assumptions.<< > >Not really.....You just have an agenda and see what you need to see to >stay within your little comfort zone The word for this is "lie". You lied. That makes you a liar. > >> >> > Multiple dimensions, >> >the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been >> >increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. >> >> Point out where tehse are "Judeo Christian assumptions". Hint: they're >> not - it's post hoc rationalisation. >> >>.. >> >> No, he didn't. He wasn't any kind of theist you would recognise. > >Or..You dont know what Orthodox Christians believe and you are making >assumptions based on ignorance You really are this stupid. He was a lapsed Jew. > >> >> > Atheism simply does not answer the question >> >"Why is there something rather than nothing" . >> >> Atheism doesn't even have that question, moron. It is part of your >> religion's metaphysical presumptions, that it pretends to answer.<< > > >Er.. Fine..Atheism falls flat when it is asked why there is something >rather than nothing..It cant answer the most basic questions about the >nature and origins of existence...Fair question.. But I understand why >you dont ask about it... Don't be so fucking stupid. >> >> > Why would only Material >> >be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with >> >ceding authority above their own personal ego's. >> >> > No, moron, > >You sure do like to name call..dont you? It's a sure sign of a weak >case. A liar as well as an idiot. Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 On 17 Oct 2006 18:45:14 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > >Robibnikoff wrote: >> "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:1161113232.234965.165540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in >> > it is an accident? >> >> Sure, but that still doesn't prove that a god exists. > >Correct, but it does demonstrate that the Athiest World View is flawed. What "atheist world view", liar? Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message news:1161135914.319521.128340@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Robibnikoff wrote: >> "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:1161113232.234965.165540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Can't you see how unlikely it is that the Universe and all that is in >> > it is an accident? >> >> Sure, but that still doesn't prove that a god exists. > > Correct, but it does demonstrate that the Athiest World View is flawed. Hardly - There is no such thing as an "Athiest World View". -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557 Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 Wow....Atheism does not seem to have helped you much with personal character building.. It's tell tale that you are so full of insults and specifically name calling around stupidity and idiocy etc...This points to the real motivation behind clinging to Atheism for many people..Without a higher authority, they personally rule the Universe...Ego has no bounds. Morals have no boundaries... No final judgement, no authority, just you and your ever expanding self....So anyone who does not agree is "Stupid" because the real issue is not always the nature of reality and God but rather personal ego, control issues. -------------------- Christopher A. Lee wrote: > On 17 Oct 2006 18:43:41 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > > > > >> > >> Argument from ignorance. You don't know therefore you invent a > >> seperbeing out of nothing and insist that it did it, with no > >> justification. > > > >The exact same could be said of you..What do you "Know"..When we turn > >to the most famous physicists who have deeply pondered the nature of > >reality and the universe by your standards, they agree with me and not > >with you..Go figure > > Only in your ignorant fantasies. > > > > > >> > >> >It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As > >> > >> Bullshit. Look up "Seneca" and tell us when he lived. Also the Baron > >> d'Holbach.<< > > Here's a clue, noron, Seneca was bornin 5 BCE. > > >No thanks...Athiesm had no following past the tinest minority until > >recently.... > > Are you really this stupid, or just pretending? > > It's not something with a following. > > Not believing in the deity of your religion is no differet than your > not believing is Zeus. > > >> >people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic > >> >wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the > >> >natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many > >> >assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. > >> > >> Bullshit. It has refuted many more Christian assumptions.<< > > > >Not really.....You just have an agenda and see what you need to see to > >stay within your little comfort zone > > The word for this is "lie". You lied. That makes you a liar. > > > > >> > >> > Multiple dimensions, > >> >the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been > >> >increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. > >> > >> Point out where tehse are "Judeo Christian assumptions". Hint: they're > >> not - it's post hoc rationalisation. > >> > >>.. > >> > >> No, he didn't. He wasn't any kind of theist you would recognise. > > > >Or..You dont know what Orthodox Christians believe and you are making > >assumptions based on ignorance > > You really are this stupid. He was a lapsed Jew. > > > > >> > >> > Atheism simply does not answer the question > >> >"Why is there something rather than nothing" . > >> > >> Atheism doesn't even have that question, moron. It is part of your > >> religion's metaphysical presumptions, that it pretends to answer.<< > > > > > >Er.. Fine..Atheism falls flat when it is asked why there is something > >rather than nothing..It cant answer the most basic questions about the > >nature and origins of existence...Fair question.. But I understand why > >you dont ask about it... > > Don't be so fucking stupid. > > >> > >> > Why would only Material > >> >be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with > >> >ceding authority above their own personal ego's. > >> > >> > No, moron, > > > >You sure do like to name call..dont you? It's a sure sign of a weak > >case. > > A liar as well as an idiot. Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 On 18 Oct 2006 09:00:11 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: >Wow....Atheism does not seem to have helped you much with personal >character building.. It's no different than not believingin Santa Claus. When you say stupid, bigoted lies about us to our faces, what reason do we have to treat you as anything other than a stupid, bigoted liar? >It's tell tale that you are so full of insults and specifically nam >calling around stupidity and idiocy etc...This points to the real Then don't be those things. I've pointed out where you did in your original. >motivation behind clinging to Atheism for many people..Without a higher There's nothing to cling to, brainwashed moron. >authority, they personally rule the Universe...Ego has no bounds. A liar as well as an idiot. >Morals have no boundaries... No final judgement, no authority, just you If you need the threat of a non-existant final judgement to keep you in line, I hope you don't live within a thousand miles of my loved ones. >and your ever expanding self....So anyone who does not agree is >"Stupid" because the real issue is not always the nature of reality and Liar. >God but rather personal ego, control issues. Liar. >Christopher A. Lee wrote: >> On 17 Oct 2006 18:43:41 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> Argument from ignorance. You don't know therefore you invent a >> >> seperbeing out of nothing and insist that it did it, with no >> >> justification. >> > >> >The exact same could be said of you..What do you "Know"..When we turn >> >to the most famous physicists who have deeply pondered the nature of >> >reality and the universe by your standards, they agree with me and not >> >with you..Go figure >> >> Only in your ignorant fantasies. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >It was not until the 19th century that Atheism appear on the scene. As Falsehood refuted below. >> >> Bullshit. Look up "Seneca" and tell us when he lived. Also the Baron >> >> d'Holbach.<< >> >> Here's a clue, noron, Seneca was born in 5 BCE. >> >> >No thanks...Athiesm had no following past the tinest minority until >> >recently.... It has no more following than its exact equivalent of not believing in Santa Claus does. >> Are you really this stupid, or just pretending? >> >> It's not something with a following. >> >> Not believing in the deity of your religion is no differet than your >> not believing is Zeus. Was this way over your head? >> >> >people more and more lived in world that was mechanical, plastic >> >> >wrapped and freeze dried the more they have become estranged from the >> >> >natural order. Never the less, science has dove-tailed many >> >> >assumptions of the Judeo Christian World View.. Bullshit. It has refuted all sorts of ridiculous claims starting at the Garden of Eden. Like the flood. And then all the way through to the hypothetical eclipse at the time of passover (ever wondered where the moon is when it is full, and where it is for an eclipse of the sun?). >> >> Bullshit. It has refuted many more Christian assumptions.<< >> > >> >Not really.....You just have an agenda and see what you need to see to >> >stay within your little comfort zone You lied about both a non-existant agenda and a non-existant comfort zone. >> The word for this is "lie". You lied. That makes you a liar. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Multiple dimensions, >> >> >the nature of time and space and survival of death have all been >> >> >increasingly confirmed and understood by the scientific method.. >> >> >> >> Point out where tehse are "Judeo Christian assumptions". Hint: they're >> >> not - it's post hoc rationalisation. Why didn't you? >> >>.. >> >> >> >> No, he didn't. He wasn't any kind of theist you would recognise. >> > >> >Or..You dont know what Orthodox Christians believe and you are making >> >assumptions based on ignorance >> >> You really are this stupid. He was a lapsed Jew. Well? >> > >> >> >> >> > Atheism simply does not answer the question >> >> >"Why is there something rather than nothing" . >> >> >> >> Atheism doesn't even have that question, moron. It is part of your >> >> religion's metaphysical presumptions, that it pretends to answer.<< >> > >> > >> >Er.. Fine..Atheism falls flat when it is asked why there is something >> >rather than nothing..It cant answer the most basic questions about the >> >nature and origins of existence...Fair question.. But I understand why >> >you dont ask about it... No more so than not believing in Santa Claus, moron. And you don't"understand" anything - let alone the sheer irrelevance of the hypothetical object of your deity belief outside your religion. >> Don't be so fucking stupid. >> >> >> >> >> > Why would only Material >> >> >be eternally existent and not life itself? Atheists have problems with >> >> >ceding authority above their own personal ego's. >> >> >> >> > No, moron, >> > >> >You sure do like to name call..dont you? It's a sure sign of a weak >> >case. It wasn't name-calling. It was all your stupidity deserved. >> A liar as well as an idiot. You should have been more careful. Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 > > It's no different than not believingin Santa Claus. Yawn.... Btw..St. Nicholas was a real person and a great Saint who is revered in the Orthodox Churches around the world..... See... If you learn just one new thing every day > > When you say stupid, bigoted lies about us to our faces, what reason > do we have to treat you as anything other than a stupid, bigoted > liar?>> Geeeez..... How did you get this jacked up? Time to switch to decaf... Anyhow.. We're done now.... Please remember to ask your parents before logging onto the Internet, you may be disturbing adults with better things to do. http://www.ourlifeinchrist.com Quote
Guest marcinmd Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 > > Hardly - There is no such thing as an "Athiest World View". Of course there is..Every philosphy and religion has a point of view about how they look at the world...... Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 On 18 Oct 2006 10:59:31 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > >> >> It's no different than not believingin Santa Claus. > >Yawn.... > >Btw..St. Nicholas was a real person and a great Saint who is revered in >the Orthodox Churches around the world..... See... If you learn just >one new thing every day The point was way over the brainwashed moron's head. >> When you say stupid, bigoted lies about us to our faces, what reason >> do we have to treat you as anything other than a stupid, bigoted >> liar?>> > >Geeeez..... How did you get this jacked up? Time to switch to decaf... Here's a clue, moron: don't lie about us to our faces and you won't be treated as the boigoted, nasty liar show demonstrated. It's really that easy. Quote
Guest Christopher A. Lee Posted October 18, 2006 Posted October 18, 2006 On 18 Oct 2006 11:01:26 -0700, "marcinmd" <marcinmd@aol.com> wrote: > > >> >> Hardly - There is no such thing as an "Athiest World View". > > >Of course there is..Every philosphy and religion has a point of view >about how they look at the world...... And there's also reality, moron. What makes you think atheism is a philosopy or religion, in-your-face moron? Is not-believing-in-Santa-Claus a philosophy or religion on your planet? Quote
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