Guest cameccas Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better and safe ?? Quote
Guest Carey Frisch [MVP] Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Install a good, comprehensive, security program, such as Windows OneCare, and you'll not have to worry about those issues. You can try it FREE for ninety (90) days. This is a brand new version and is very robust! Uses very little system resources! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "cameccas" <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AD94F1DE-94BE-41F6-A993-F7866AF0B620@microsoft.com... Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better and safe ?? Quote
Guest Nonny Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON >my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has >to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? >I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run >very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better >and safe ?? </span> Dump ALL Norton and McAfee programs. Completely uninstall them. They definitely slow things down. Have done so for years. Download AVG antivirus or Avast antivirus. Both are free. Quote
Guest Mick Murphy Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason for slowness! Use Products listed below. And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, which does NOT work for complete protection. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any one time.. Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. Then SCAN with it. Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. - Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "cameccas" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > and safe ?? </span> Quote
Guest Carey Frisch [MVP] Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Windows Live OneCare awards and certifications http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-Us/pro...tifications.htm --- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows System & Performance "Mick Murphy" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason > for slowness! > Use Products listed below. > > And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, > which does NOT work for complete protection. > > http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html > > Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, > auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. > And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any > one time.. > Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). > > http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html > > Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. > Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. > Then SCAN with it. > Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. > > - > Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia > > > "cameccas" wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > > and safe ?? </span></span> Quote
Guest Nonny Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:29:00 -0700, Carey Frisch [MVP] <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Windows Live OneCare awards and certifications >http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-Us/pro...tifications.htm</span> Avast awards and certifications: http://www.avast.com/eng/awards.html <span style="color:blue"> > >--- >Carey Frisch >Microsoft MVP >Windows Desktop Experience - >Windows System & Performance > > > > >"Mick Murphy" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason >> for slowness! >> Use Products listed below. >> >> And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, >> which does NOT work for complete protection. >> >> http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html >> >> Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, >> auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. >> And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any >> one time.. >> Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). >> >> http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html >> >> Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. >> Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. >> Then SCAN with it. >> Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. >> >> - >> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia >> >> >> "cameccas" wrote: >> <span style="color:darkred"> >> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON >> > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has >> > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? >> > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run >> > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better >> > and safe ?? </span></span></span> Quote
Guest Carey Frisch [MVP] Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 With the excellent Windows OneCare package, there is no need to install a multitude of different security software. OneCare includes: -- An excellent antivirus application -- An excellent firewall application -- An excellent antispyware application -- Automatic system tune-ups -- Automatic hard drive defrag -- Checks for updates to be sure they are installed -- Schedules automatic backups of important files -- New version 2.5 just released - designed to work exceptionally well with Windows Vista & XP. -- All-in-one convenient, easy to install application -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows Vista Enthusiast --------------------------------------------------------------- "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9D07CA2D-FD3F-4684-9E38-3CCFA8B9D257@microsoft.com... Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason for slowness! Use Products listed below. And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, which does NOT work for complete protection. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any one time.. Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. Then SCAN with it. Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. - Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "cameccas" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > and safe ??</span> Quote
Guest Nonny Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 23:46:56 -0500, Nonny <nonnymoose@yahoo.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:29:00 -0700, Carey Frisch [MVP] ><cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>Windows Live OneCare awards and certifications >>http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-Us/pro...tifications.htm</span> > >Avast awards and certifications: > >http://www.avast.com/eng/awards.html</span> AVG antivirus awards and certifications: http://free.avg.com/ww.awards-references <span style="color:blue"> > ><span style="color:green"> >> >>--- >>Carey Frisch >>Microsoft MVP >>Windows Desktop Experience - >>Windows System & Performance >> >> >> >> >>"Mick Murphy" wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason >>> for slowness! >>> Use Products listed below. >>> >>> And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, >>> which does NOT work for complete protection. >>> >>> http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html >>> >>> Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, >>> auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. >>> And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any >>> one time.. >>> Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). >>> >>> http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html >>> >>> Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. >>> Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. >>> Then SCAN with it. >>> Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. >>> >>> - >>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia >>> >>> >>> "cameccas" wrote: >>> >>> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON >>> > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has >>> > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? >>> > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run >>> > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better >>> > and safe ?? </span></span></span> Quote
Guest Mick Murphy Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 SPAM -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > With the excellent Windows OneCare package, there is > no need to install a multitude of different security software. > > OneCare includes: > > -- An excellent antivirus application > -- An excellent firewall application > -- An excellent antispyware application > -- Automatic system tune-ups > -- Automatic hard drive defrag > -- Checks for updates to be sure they are installed > -- Schedules automatic backups of important files > -- New version 2.5 just released - designed to work > exceptionally well with Windows Vista & XP. > -- All-in-one convenient, easy to install application > > > -- > Carey Frisch > Microsoft MVP > Windows Desktop Experience - > Windows Vista Enthusiast > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:9D07CA2D-FD3F-4684-9E38-3CCFA8B9D257@microsoft.com... > Norton uses at least a 1/3 of your computer's resources; that's the reason > for slowness! > Use Products listed below. > > And Live One Care is just a another money-grabbing program from microsoft, > which does NOT work for complete protection. > > http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html > > Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, > auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. > And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any > one time.. > Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). > > http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html > > Spybot Search & Destroy 1.6 is a very good, FREE Anti-Spyware Program. > Download, install, update, and immunize your System with it. > Then SCAN with it. > Update it, and scan your System once a fortnight. > > - > Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia > > > "cameccas" wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > > and safe ??</span> > </span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > and safe ??</span> A number of experts agree that the retail AV version of McAfee, Norton and Trend Micro has become cumbersome and bloated for the average user. The major criticisms are related to stability and footprint, the most common problem being slow-downs because of the massive system resources hogs. There are products on the market with equal or better test results than Symantec's products, consuming less resources at a lower price (even free ones). The retail version of these apps can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it using propriety uninstall tools: Download and run the Norton Removal Tool and try to get a refund: http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgen...005033108162039 The Norton Removal Tool uninstalls all Norton 2008/2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 products and Norton 360 from your computer. Removal tools for recent Mcafee products:- Request assistance from here: http://forums.mcafeehelp.com/ or download and run: http://www.majorgeeks.com/McAfee_Consumer_...Tool_d5420.html or http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx...r=10005&type=TS or Download and run the McAfee Removal tool: https://us.mcafee.com/root/MCPR2.exe If you receive a security alert, click Yes. Click Save to download the file to a location on your computer. Navigate to the location where the file was saved. Ensure all McAfee application windows are closed. Double-click MCPR2.exe to run the removal tool. Note: Windows Vista users must right-click and select Run as Administrator. Restart your computer when prompted. Your McAfee products will not be fully removed until you restart. All McAfee products are now removed from your computer.' or Remove all remnants of McAfee... http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Uninsta...oval-Tool.shtml How to uninstall or reinstall supported McAfee consumer products using the McAfee Consumer Products Removal tool (MCPR.exe) http://service.mcafee.com/FAQDocument.aspx...ee&type=TS&ia=1 IMPORTANT: If your McAfee products were preinstalled by the manufacturer of your computer, please make sure to activate your McAfee subscription before uninstalling. Reinstalling from a CD or download will only install your McAfee consumer applications, but may not recover your paid subscription term information. There are many good free AV applications available, and almost everyone has his favorite. Most of the users are emotionally attached to their av application and will have excellent reasons for not recommending any other brand. The most important thing here is that all of the available choices listed here are better in some respects than in others, and which choice is better for you depends on what you do, how you work, and which features you use. The way you use your PC is different from others. Have a look at this: http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm and be guided accordingly. Good info can be obtained here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/page.php?id=20 and here: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ If the above is too deluging consider this:- Real-time AV applications - for viral malware. Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine! Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/...nning/index.htm Viral Irony: The Most Common Cause of Corruption. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/commun...corruption.mspx Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus http://www.free-av.com/ You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen' http://www.elitekiller.com/files/disable_antivir_nag.htm or Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition It includes ANTI-SPYWARE protection, certified by the West Coast Labs Checkmark process, and ANTI-ROOTKIT DETECTION based on the best-in class GMER technology. http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.) or AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition http://free.grisoft.com/ (Choose custom install and untick the email scanner plugin.) or ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free http://www.eset.com/ or Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser and (optional but highly recommendable) On-demand AV applications. (add them to your arsenal and use them as a "second opinion" av scanner). David H. Lipman's MULTI_AV Tool http://www.pctipp.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp English: http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...virus-for-free/ Additional Instructions: http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm and/or http://downloads5.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/ There's no updating involved since the scanning engine is updated several times a day and you simply download the updated scanner whenever you want to do a scan. Dr.Web CureIt!® Utility - FREE http://www.freedrweb.com/cureit/ Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe Note: It is Free for private use. Just download (do NOT buy) and install. A-S applications - for non-viral malware. The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what another may miss, (grab'em all). SuperAntispyware - Free http://www.superantispyware.com/superantis...efreevspro.html and Ad-Aware 2007 - Free http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html and Spybot Search & Destroy - Free http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html and Windows Defender - Free (build-in in Vista) http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/s...re/default.mspx WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware and worms to install to the OS. Interesting reading: http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about the actual threat." A clarification on the terminology: the word "malware" is short for "malicious software." Most Anti-Virus applications detect many types of malware such as viruses, worms, trojans, etc. What AV applications usually don't detect is "non-viral" malware, and the term "non-viral malware" is normally used to refer to things like spyware and adware. Many experts suggest that Windows Live One Care is on the bottom of the list as far as finding virus\malware\trojan. You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using. Managing the Windows Vista Firewall http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc510323.aspx Vista Firewall Control (Free versions available). Protects your applications from undesirable network incoming and outgoing activity, controls applications internet access. http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/ The free version may be all you need, check the comparisons under the "Download and Buy" link. 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Guest Charlie42 Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > With the excellent Windows OneCare package, there is > no need to install a multitude of different security software.</span> Ok, mr. Frisch. You have been ardently advocating OneCare in the Vista newsgroups for quite some time now, why is that? I am not trolling here, I just want to hear your reasons for picking this suite over more seasoned software on the market. <span style="color:blue"> > -- An excellent antivirus application > -- An excellent firewall application > -- An excellent antispyware application</span> Afaik, OneCare's performance is inferior to that of programs like Kaspersky, AVG, Avast, NOD32 or even the dreaded Norton. I base this statement on test results from renowned sites like AV-Comparatives and Virus Bulletin. <span style="color:blue"> > -- Automatic system tune-ups</span> The registry cleaning part of OneCare has been heavily critisised, both because many experts mean automated registry cleaning in general is unnecessary and potentially harmful and because OneCare does not back up the registry before executing changes (has this changed lately, btw?) <span style="color:blue"> > -- Automatic hard drive defrag</span> This is included in the Vista OS. Why a third party tool? <span style="color:blue"> > -- Checks for updates to be sure they are installed > -- Schedules automatic backups of important files > -- New version 2.5 just released - designed to work > exceptionally well with Windows Vista & XP. > -- All-in-one convenient, easy to install application</span> The same can be said for a number of security softwares. Scheduling and updating is part of any decent suite or AV program. Charlie42 Quote
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 cameccas wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why?</span> It's slowing down precisely because you are trying to use the bloated, resource hogging applications from Norton or McAfee. There are far bettwer choices available, today. <span style="color:blue"> > doesn't it has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff??</span> You're assuming that there was "bad stuff" present to clean out in the first place, when there might not have been, and forgetting that any application you install is going to take an additional toll on system performance. Norton and McAfee offer two of the better known security suites, but their products are also best known for having a very noticable negative impact upon performance. <span style="color:blue"> > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > and safe ?? </span> You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will responses. I'll start by saying that I don't think any security "suite" is a good choice. It'd be better to use smaller, less-resource-draining stand-alone products. I had used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that. But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were acquired by Network Associates. However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton Internet Security came up for renewal (at a cost substantially higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ). It proved to be easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product. Another free (for personal use) anti-virus product is AVAST! 4 Home Edition (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html), which is what I'd been using without problems on Vista Business, until recently. I'm currently testing ESET's NOD32, which isn't free, but has a small footprint that doesn't bog the system down. For a recent comparison of anti-virus products: Retrospective / ProActive Test http://www.av-comparatives.org/ -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run better > and safe ?? </span> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely affecting your computer's performance. For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a little money, or Avast, if you want a free product. For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list: Spyware Blaster Spybot Search and Destroy Adaware Super Antispyware. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest Xenomorph Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 McAfee and Norton are some of the worst programs to put on any system, and many people recommend you don't use them. AVG or Avast! would be the best choice. "cameccas" <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AD94F1DE-94BE-41F6-A993-F7866AF0B620@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or > NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it > has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer > run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run > better > and safe ?? </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 More software running will always make your "other" programs seem slower. Your computer still runs at the same speed, but it is doing more than is manifested by the "other" programs you run. Norton does alot of stuff in the background (actually, too much IMO). You may be the type of user that would benefit from the Norton 360 approach, so I won't try to dissuade you from using it. My advice is to avail yourself of the "support" Symantec (Norton) owes you due to your purchasing their product. Others will no doubt recommend alternative programs (many are free). Don't interpret my post as being against this option, as I use Avast! antivirusfree version myself. "cameccas" <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AD94F1DE-94BE-41F6-A993-F7866AF0B620@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or > NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it > has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer > run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run > better > and safe ?? </span> Quote
Guest Michael D. Ober Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:puep841ckjff329uvv5rldp5a546ju5c8f@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 21:04:00 -0700, cameccas > <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or >> NORTON >> my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it >> has >> to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? >> I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer >> run >> very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run >> better >> and safe ??</span> > > > Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and > McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely > affecting your computer's performance. > > For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a > little money, or Avast, if you want a free product. > > For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list: > > Spyware Blaster > Spybot Search and Destroy > Adaware > Super Antispyware. > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience > Please Reply to the Newsgroup ></span> I have been using Panda Software's products both at home and on our corporate network for several years with good results. Panda doesn't impact system performance too much (all realtime AV solutions impact system performance) and I haven't had a virus at home. The two zero day exploits that made it through at work were stopped by Panda's heuristic based scanner on the machines that downloaded them from the internet. As for Norton - it requires a supercomputer to perform decently. As for McAffee - their AV product simply misses too many viruii. Mike Ober. Quote
Guest Aardvark Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 I installed Windows Onecare and it works for me. I ran it against Gibson research http://www.grc.com/ and it passed with flying colors. I use a cable connection and have Weather Display software communicating every minute with somewhere and McAfee and Norton was not compaitible with my software. So.. I had to find something that worked. This works for me, it is a good anti-virus and firewall. I don't care for its lack of cleaning cookies ( so I use CCLeaner) and not sure if it does have a registry cleaner or not associated with it ( I had to get a 64 bit compatible cleaner which found 709 errors on a new machine ). But other than that.. My opinion... I'd say try what works for you and your needs and go with it. Quote
Guest Nonny Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:39:30 -0700, Aardvark <Aardvark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >I installed Windows Onecare and it works for me. I ran it against Gibson >research > >http://www.grc.com/ > >and it passed with flying colors. </span> That is only a firewall check. Windows' native firewal - the free one that comes with Vista - l would pass too. So would any of the free third-party firewalls. I passed several tests with NO software firewall installed (I have a router between my computer and my cable modem). Quote
Guest Carey Frisch [MVP] Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 AV-Comparatives and Virus Bulletin have not tested OneCare v.2.5 When they do, you'll be quite surprised how OneCare has progressed from v.2.0 -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience - Windows System & Performance "Charlie42" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > With the excellent Windows OneCare package, there is > > no need to install a multitude of different security software.</span> > > Ok, mr. Frisch. You have been ardently advocating OneCare in the Vista > newsgroups for quite some time now, why is that? I am not trolling here, I > just want to hear your reasons for picking this suite over more seasoned > software on the market. > <span style="color:green"> > > -- An excellent antivirus application > > -- An excellent firewall application > > -- An excellent antispyware application</span> > > Afaik, OneCare's performance is inferior to that of programs like Kaspersky, > AVG, Avast, NOD32 or even the dreaded Norton. I base this statement on test > results from renowned sites like AV-Comparatives and Virus Bulletin. > <span style="color:green"> > > -- Automatic system tune-ups</span> > > The registry cleaning part of OneCare has been heavily critisised, both > because many experts mean automated registry cleaning in general is > unnecessary and potentially harmful and because OneCare does not back up the > registry before executing changes (has this changed lately, btw?) > <span style="color:green"> > > -- Automatic hard drive defrag</span> > > This is included in the Vista OS. Why a third party tool? > <span style="color:green"> > > -- Checks for updates to be sure they are installed > > -- Schedules automatic backups of important files > > -- New version 2.5 just released - designed to work > > exceptionally well with Windows Vista & XP. > > -- All-in-one convenient, easy to install application</span> > > The same can be said for a number of security softwares. Scheduling and > updating is part of any decent suite or AV program. > > Charlie42 > > </span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: <snip> <span style="color:blue"> > Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and > McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely > affecting your computer's performance.</span> In all fairness, it's their retail version which can play havoc with pc's. AFAIK the corporate isues are pretty good style_emoticons/ <span style="color:blue"> > For an anti-virus product, I recommend NOD32 if you want to spend a > little money, or Avast, if you want a free product. > > For anti-spyware, I would run at least two from the following list: > > Spyware Blaster > Spybot Search and Destroy > Adaware > Super Antispyware.</span> Quote
Guest Kayman Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:39:30 -0700, Aardvark wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I installed Windows Onecare and it works for me. I ran it against Gibson > research > > http://www.grc.com/ > > and it passed with flying colors.</span> <snip> Firewall LeakTesting. Excerpts: Leo Laporte: "So the leaktest is kind of pointless." Steve Gibson: "Well,yes,... Leo: "So are you saying that there's no point in doing a leaktest anymore?" Steve: "Well, it's why I have not taken the trouble to update mine, because you..." Leo: "You can't test enough". Steve: "Well, yeah. Leo: "Right. Very interesting stuff. I guess that - my sense is, if you can't test for leaks, a software-based firewall is kind of essentially worthless." Read and/or listen to the entire conversation here: http://www.grc.com/sn/SN-105.htm Quote
Guest Milo Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I would stand neurtral on such Choose from these names: Onecare / BitDefender / Kaspersky / TrendMicro The following are the only names I would trust "cameccas" <cameccas@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AD94F1DE-94BE-41F6-A993-F7866AF0B620@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Hi why does everytime i download an antivirus program like MC AFEE or > NORTON > my computer starts running more slowly ? it even freezes,why? doesn't it > has > to run better because it's cleaning all the bad stuff?? > I even baught the NORTON 360 ALL-IN-ONE SECURITY and it made my computer > run > very ,very slow !!! what program can I get that would make my PC run > better > and safe ?? </span> Quote
Guest Charlie42 Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > AV-Comparatives and Virus Bulletin have not tested OneCare > v.2.5 When they do, you'll be quite surprised how OneCare has > progressed from v.2.0</span> I will watch the sites and ask again later then. Charlie42 Quote
Guest +Bob+ Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:15:01 +0700, Kayman <kaymanDeleteThis@operamail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 11:21:12 -0700, Ken Blake, MVP wrote: > ><snip> ><span style="color:green"> >> Norton is probably the worst security software on the market, and >> McAfee isn't much better. Both of these are notorious for adversely >> affecting your computer's performance.</span> > >In all fairness, it's their retail version which can play havoc with >pc's. AFAIK the corporate isues are pretty good style_emoticons/</span> I might take exception to that. I used to consult at a major computer manufacturer ($20b+ in sales). The corporate standard was to use Norton. I often brought in hardware when I was there. One day I noticed a serious speed difference in network copying between the Norton encrusted systems and my own. So, we did some testing. We used very strict and repetitive test conditions on their Norton bound systems. The end result was that having Norton turned on during network copies slowed the copies by a factor of about 22 times. We started researching in Norton's support database and there was a bulletin on the problem as a "known issue" with network copying. It had been a known issue since Windows 95. Apparently they didn't seem to think it would matter to customers. I have to be fair to Nor ton that I have not done these tests again in the last couple years - but I started advising everyone to take it off their systems back then and I don't feel guilty still advising that. Quote
Guest +Bob+ Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:04:03 +0800, "Milo" <jfcoel@hotmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >I would stand neurtral on such > >Choose from these names: >Onecare / BitDefender / Kaspersky / TrendMicro > >The following are the only names I would trust</span> You left out any you trust. I think you meant to write "AVG". Quote
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