Guest John Posted August 26, 2008 Posted August 26, 2008 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:OyXFmf7BJHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > From: "John" <a> > > | There's a lot of malware that runs in safe mode these days. > Vundo/Virtumundo > | is one of them. I normally clean the infection first (if I have time). > It > | doesn't matter if the infection is partially or 100% removed, I'll > always > | follow it up with a nuke (format) a few days/weeks later. I feel safer > | starting from scratch (format and reinstall OS). > > | Why bother cleaning it first? Well, that's just me. I like a challenge > :-) > > Take it to the next level... > > Install OS, update it, install Apps., apply settings and then image the PC > using > Norton/Symantec Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.</span> Yeah, that would be a better solution. Unfortunately I don't have disk cloning/imaging software (don't have money to spend either). I only use OS, AV + a couple of instant messaging software. That's it. It's very easy to reinstall the whole system. I admit restoring an image is a lot quicker. Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 If you have a Maxtor/Seagate drive, you can use MaxBlast for free. Not as granular as the pay version, but whole disk imaging works. "John" <a> wrote in message news:Ot48517BJHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message > news:OyXFmf7BJHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> From: "John" <a> >> >> | There's a lot of malware that runs in safe mode these days. >> Vundo/Virtumundo >> | is one of them. I normally clean the infection first (if I have time). >> It >> | doesn't matter if the infection is partially or 100% removed, I'll >> always >> | follow it up with a nuke (format) a few days/weeks later. I feel safer >> | starting from scratch (format and reinstall OS). >> >> | Why bother cleaning it first? Well, that's just me. I like a challenge >> :-) >> >> Take it to the next level... >> >> Install OS, update it, install Apps., apply settings and then image the >> PC using >> Norton/Symantec Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.</span> > > Yeah, that would be a better solution. Unfortunately I don't have disk > cloning/imaging software (don't have money to spend either). I only use > OS, AV + a couple of instant messaging software. That's it. It's very easy > to reinstall the whole system. I admit restoring an image is a lot > quicker. > </span> Quote
Guest Advanced Networking Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I have removed this on a number of Systems already - If you know when the system became infected - Use System Restore and go back to a day or two before XP AV 09 installed itself. On a workstation - the only thing you might lose are a couple of MS updates to reinstall - Takes about 15 min total. "FromTheRafters" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > If you have a Maxtor/Seagate drive, you can use MaxBlast > for free. Not as granular as the pay version, but whole disk > imaging works. > > "John" <a> wrote in message news:Ot48517BJHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> > > > > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message > > news:OyXFmf7BJHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> From: "John" <a> > >> > >> | There's a lot of malware that runs in safe mode these days. > >> Vundo/Virtumundo > >> | is one of them. I normally clean the infection first (if I have time). > >> It > >> | doesn't matter if the infection is partially or 100% removed, I'll > >> always > >> | follow it up with a nuke (format) a few days/weeks later. I feel safer > >> | starting from scratch (format and reinstall OS). > >> > >> | Why bother cleaning it first? Well, that's just me. I like a challenge > >> :-) > >> > >> Take it to the next level... > >> > >> Install OS, update it, install Apps., apply settings and then image the > >> PC using > >> Norton/Symantec Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.</span> > > > > Yeah, that would be a better solution. Unfortunately I don't have disk > > cloning/imaging software (don't have money to spend either). I only use > > OS, AV + a couple of instant messaging software. That's it. It's very easy > > to reinstall the whole system. I admit restoring an image is a lot > > quicker. > > </span> > > > </span> Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a flat out lie it will not get posted. -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7f42b0f4-976f-4db5-9a64-79af3a1ee672@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > The un bias real truth about me and > the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and > see > what others have said about me and my > tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/I also tell everyone who > sends > feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they will > be > ridiculed by the jealous others in this group.</span> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at Microsoft and your supposed influence on them. Quote
Guest Gregg Hill Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 Please start your own thread entitled "Urinary Distance Testing" or something similar. This newsgroup is no place for this sort of banter. Gregg Hill "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:Udltk.25628$Ri.9958@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a >flat out lie it will not get posted. > > > -- > Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring > them is not an option. > > > > > "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:7f42b0f4-976f-4db5-9a64-79af3a1ee672@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> The un bias real truth about me and >> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >> see >> what others have said about me and my >> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/I also tell everyone who >> sends >> feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they will >> be >> ridiculed by the jealous others in this group.</span> > > If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as > from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even > give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at > Microsoft and your supposed influence on them. </span> Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 What the hell are you telling me for I didn't start it. You started the thread and continued it by replying to the trolls, who always start it up with me, and believing their lies. You asked a question, I gave you an answer that works for free. You choose not to use it and that's fine but you didn't have to start posting smart remarks about me continuing the flamewar. -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote in message news:%23CDbL0JCJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Please start your own thread entitled "Urinary Distance Testing" or > something similar. This newsgroup is no place for this sort of banter. > > Gregg Hill > > > > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:Udltk.25628$Ri.9958@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a >>flat out lie it will not get posted. >> >> >> -- >> Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring >> them is not an option. >> >> >> >> >> "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:7f42b0f4-976f-4db5-9a64-79af3a1ee672@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> The un bias real truth about me and >>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >>> see >>> what others have said about me and my >>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/I also tell everyone who >>> sends >>> feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they >>> will be >>> ridiculed by the jealous others in this group.</span> >> >> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them.</span> > > </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Yeah, but for really really sticky malware - you can't beat a nice fresh disk image. "Advanced Networking" Networking@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:88C81C90-7A8E-4A7F-BA04-5A5973356D0F@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I have removed this on a number of Systems already - If you know when the > system became infected - Use System Restore and go back to a day or two > before XP AV 09 installed itself. On a workstation - the only thing you > might lose are a couple of MS updates to reinstall - Takes about 15 min > total. > > > > "FromTheRafters" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> If you have a Maxtor/Seagate drive, you can use MaxBlast >> for free. Not as granular as the pay version, but whole disk >> imaging works. >> >> "John" <a> wrote in message news:Ot48517BJHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > >> > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message >> > news:OyXFmf7BJHA.4728@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> From: "John" <a> >> >> >> >> | There's a lot of malware that runs in safe mode these days. >> >> Vundo/Virtumundo >> >> | is one of them. I normally clean the infection first (if I have >> >> time). >> >> It >> >> | doesn't matter if the infection is partially or 100% removed, I'll >> >> always >> >> | follow it up with a nuke (format) a few days/weeks later. I feel >> >> safer >> >> | starting from scratch (format and reinstall OS). >> >> >> >> | Why bother cleaning it first? Well, that's just me. I like a >> >> challenge >> >> :-) >> >> >> >> Take it to the next level... >> >> >> >> Install OS, update it, install Apps., apply settings and then image >> >> the >> >> PC using >> >> Norton/Symantec Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc. >> > >> > Yeah, that would be a better solution. Unfortunately I don't have disk >> > cloning/imaging software (don't have money to spend either). I only use >> > OS, AV + a couple of instant messaging software. That's it. It's very >> > easy >> > to reinstall the whole system. I admit restoring an image is a lot >> > quicker. >> ></span> >> >> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> | Yeah, but for really really sticky malware - you can't beat | a nice fresh disk image. Right and some malware disable or corrupt the System Restore Service (srservice) which makes the System Restore functionality less realiable when dealing with those kinds of malware infections. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest Gregg Hill Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 I started a thread asking about Antivirus 2009. Others brought to my attention that I may want to "be aware" of some things about you, specifically that you are not an MVP as you claim. I found in Google searches evidence from Microsoft employees indicating that you are not an MVP. You and the others have turned it into a pissing contest of your own. You stated in one post, "Anyone with any common sense would know that if everything they say were true I would not be here." I find the opposite is quite often true, with the real "trolls" (I love the name calling to which you resort) being the one jumping up and down saying that everyone is against you for no good reason. That is not always true, but sometimes it is true. If a room full of respected people are questioning your integrity, it is prudent on my part to QUESTION it as well, but not necessarily blindly believe "their lies" as you call them. Yes, I decided to question your integrity for myself, and I judge you by what I have read about you and what I have read IN YOUR OWN WORDS. The majority is not always right, but I have read enough from you in Google searches to know that I would never have any dealings with you, whether or not your product is any good. One person and a lot of smoke might indicate a disgruntled person, but I usually find that a whole bunch of people and a lot of smoke quite often indicates a fire, and that is something I choose to avoid. If the dissenting opinions were from a bunch of low-lifes, I would not pay attention. However, the majority of what I have read is from people who really are respected by their peers. You claim that you "allow only the truth dissenting or not." Without the appearance of any apparent dissention, I question your view of the "truth" you proclaim and censor. As I said, the newsgroup is not the place for it. You may have the rest of this newsgroup to yourself. I refuse to further dignify this downhill thread. Gregg Hill "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:%4mtk.19159$cW3.7514@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > What the hell are you telling me for I didn't start it. You started the > thread and continued it by replying to the trolls, who always start it up > with me, and believing their lies. You asked a question, I gave you an > answer that works for free. You choose not to use it and that's fine but > you didn't have to start posting smart remarks about me continuing the > flamewar. > > -- > Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring > them is not an option. > > > > > "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote > in message news:%23CDbL0JCJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Please start your own thread entitled "Urinary Distance Testing" or >> something similar. This newsgroup is no place for this sort of banter. >> >> Gregg Hill >> >> >> >> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >> news:Udltk.25628$Ri.9958@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>>I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a >>>flat out lie it will not get posted. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring >>> them is not an option. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:7f42b0f4-976f-4db5-9a64-79af3a1ee672@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote: >>>> The un bias real truth about me and >>>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >>>> see >>>> what others have said about me and my >>>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/I also tell everyone >>>> who sends >>>> feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they >>>> will be >>>> ridiculed by the jealous others in this group. >>> >>> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >>> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >>> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >>> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them.</span> >> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 On Aug 27, 4:17Â pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> The un bias real truth about me and >>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >>> see what others have said about me and my >>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/Ialso tell everyone who >>> sends feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they will >>> be ridiculed by the jealous others in this group.</span> >> >> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them.</span> > > I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a > flat out lie it will not get posted.</span> The truth is that no one in my management chain ever heard from you and that no one ever talked to me about you within Microsoft. I did not 'get in trouble for being bias and too selective'(sic). And yet, when I attempt to correct you on your 'unbiased' blog, I've never actually seen the comment go through. So, does that mean I'm lying? Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't even understand what you are reading. -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote in message news:Ot6BhCMCJHA.4176@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >I started a thread asking about Antivirus 2009. Others brought to my >attention that I may want to "be aware" of some things about you, >specifically that you are not an MVP as you claim. I found in Google >searches evidence from Microsoft employees indicating that you are not an >MVP. You and the others have turned it into a pissing contest of your own. > > You stated in one post, "Anyone with any common sense would know that if > everything they say were true I would not be here." I find the opposite is > quite often true, with the real "trolls" (I love the name calling to which > you resort) being the one jumping up and down saying that everyone is > against you for no good reason. That is not always true, but sometimes it > is true. If a room full of respected people are questioning your > integrity, it is prudent on my part to QUESTION it as well, but not > necessarily blindly believe "their lies" as you call them. Yes, I decided > to question your integrity for myself, and I judge you by what I have read > about you and what I have read IN YOUR OWN WORDS. The majority is > not always right, but I have read enough from you in Google searches to > know that I would never have any dealings with you, whether or not your > product is any good. One person and a lot of smoke might indicate a > disgruntled person, but I usually find that a whole bunch of people and a > lot of smoke quite often indicates a fire, and that is something I choose > to avoid. > > If the dissenting opinions were from a bunch of low-lifes, I would not pay > attention. However, the majority of what I have read is from people who > really are respected by their peers. You claim that you "allow only the > truth dissenting or not." Without the appearance of any apparent > dissention, I question your view of the "truth" you proclaim and censor. > > As I said, the newsgroup is not the place for it. > > You may have the rest of this newsgroup to yourself. I refuse to further > dignify this downhill thread. > > Gregg Hill > > > > > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:%4mtk.19159$cW3.7514@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:green"> >> What the hell are you telling me for I didn't start it. You started the >> thread and continued it by replying to the trolls, who always start it up >> with me, and believing their lies. You asked a question, I gave you an >> answer that works for free. You choose not to use it and that's fine but >> you didn't have to start posting smart remarks about me continuing the >> flamewar. >> >> -- >> Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring >> them is not an option. >> >> >> >> >> "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote >> in message news:%23CDbL0JCJHA.1180@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Please start your own thread entitled "Urinary Distance Testing" or >>> something similar. This newsgroup is no place for this sort of banter. >>> >>> Gregg Hill >>> >>> >>> >>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>> news:Udltk.25628$Ri.9958@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>>I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is >>>>a flat out lie it will not get posted. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply >>>> ignoring them is not an option. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:7f42b0f4-976f-4db5-9a64-79af3a1ee672@b30g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Aug 25, 5:56 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote: >>>>> The un bias real truth about me and >>>>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback >>>>> and see >>>>> what others have said about me and my >>>>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/I also tell everyone >>>>> who sends >>>>> feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because they >>>>> will be >>>>> ridiculed by the jealous others in this group. >>>> >>>> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >>>> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >>>> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >>>> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them. >>> >>></span> >></span> > > </span> Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 What part of "My real name is not pcbutts1 or Christopher Butts" don't you understand? When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so I am allowed that courtesy. -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:a9479bfb-fa32-4aa5-9fa2-9ad1339ba7cb@v39g2000pro.googlegroups.com... On Aug 27, 4:17 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> The un bias real truth about me and >>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >>> see what others have said about me and my >>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/Ialso tell everyone who >>> sends feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because >>> they will >>> be ridiculed by the jealous others in this group.</span> >> >> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them.</span> > > I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a > flat out lie it will not get posted.</span> The truth is that no one in my management chain ever heard from you and that no one ever talked to me about you within Microsoft. I did not 'get in trouble for being bias and too selective'(sic). And yet, when I attempt to correct you on your 'unbiased' blog, I've never actually seen the comment go through. So, does that mean I'm lying? Quote
Guest ---Fitz--- Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:6BLtk.11734$vn7.3478@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't even > understand what you are reading. > > -- </span> I think he understands perfectly what he's reading. Quote
Guest ---Fitz--- Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:kFLtk.11735$vn7.5531@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > What part of "My real name is not pcbutts1 or Christopher Butts" don't you > understand? When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and > directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so > I am allowed that courtesy. > > -- </span> Right. This from the guy who said he owns the NASA website. Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 From: "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> | "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message | news:kFLtk.11735$vn7.5531@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> What part of "My real name is not pcbutts1 or Christopher Butts" don't you >> understand? When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and >> directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so >> I am allowed that courtesy.</span></span> <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> -- </span></span> | Right. This from the guy who said he owns the NASA website. Dillusions of grandeur by the LMIT contracted employee to the NASA JPL Help Desk {low tier at that !} Here is Butts on TDY and using Google from Lockheed... 08/29/08 06:30:14 IP block 192.91.171.36 Trying 192.91.171.36 at ARIN Trying 192.91.171 at ARIN OrgName: Lockheed Martin Corporation OrgID: LHMC Address: 1401 Del Norte City: Denver StateProv: CO PostalCode: 80221 Country: US NetRange: 192.91.146.0 - 192.91.175.255 CIDR: 192.91.146.0/23, 192.91.148.0/22, 192.91.152.0/21, 192.91.160.0/20 NetName: LORAL-WDL NetHandle: NET-192-91-146-0-1 Parent: NET-192-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: NS1.LMCO.COM NameServer: NS2.LMCO.COM NameServer: NS3.LMCO.COM ------------------ Path: nwrddc02.gnilink.net!cyclone2.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net! news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: pcbutts1@gmail.com Newsgroups: alt.privacy.spyware Subject: Re: HTJ Log analysis? Date: 7 Jun 2006 14:18:05 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 23 Message-ID: <1149715085.870066.147600@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> References: <1149635875.336891.71990@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <YtWdnaqQbfbktBvZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1149645677.094139.280710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <f%Bhg.40199$YI5.18026@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <1149696820.689768.114670@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <mn.3c767d664b37916e.19318@ninmule.invalid> <YpEhg.4156$mF2.2377@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.91.171.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1149715091 18723 127.0.0.1 (7 Jun 2006 21:18:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:18:11 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <YpEhg.4156$mF2.2377@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com; posting-host=192.91.171.36; posting-account=PU1q9Q0AAAALKzqYMrb_eulfbBVkgT4C X-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:18:08 EDT (nwrddc02.gnilink.net) Yea you wish it was don't you? I'm traveling at the moment, Going to Ohio to track down my stalker Leythos. My account is fine sorry to disappoint you. ------------------ Here is Butts violating his contract and posting from his NASA JPL workstation... From: "Aquafina" <invalid@invalid.now> References: <OSiGBQ75FHA.2628@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl> <128A2CEC-7FFD-48B1-B067-7C44CF4F9B66@microsoft.com> <O4mMEzE8FHA.3952@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl> <xr2hf.2681$aA2.2071@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <#yah98F8FHA.252@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl> <xn0ea34gy3wnk7e005@news-server.neo.rr.com> <eJXY4zG8FHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl> <ODEXTCH8FHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl> Subject: Re: WinFixer 2005 Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 13:57:06 -0800 Lines: 31 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: <#rhPRjH8FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.security.virus NNTP-Posting-Host: macosxpcb.jpl.nasa.gov 128.149.220.108 Path: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl Xref: TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl microsoft.public.security.virus:71036 You are making an As out of yourself again David. You don't know what you are talking about. Why don't you send an email to abuse@jpl.nasa.gov and see how far it goes. I know max will and a few MVP's trying to strut their stuff. Go ahead make another attempt at tying to shut me down, I dare you. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest Leythos Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 In article <kFLtk.11735$vn7.5531@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and > directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so I > am allowed that courtesy.</span> Anyone that wants to pay for support can get that far Butts. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 On Aug 28, 10:21Â pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> >>> The un bias real truth about me and >> >>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback and >> >>> see what others have said about me and my >> >>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/Ialsotell everyone who >> >>> sends feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because >> >>> they will >> >>> be ridiculed by the jealous others in this group. >> >> >> >> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >> >> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >> >> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >> >> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them. >> > >> > I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is a >> > flat out lie it will not get posted. >> ></span> >> The truth is that no one in my management chain ever heard from you >> and that no one ever talked to me about you within Microsoft. >> >> I did not 'get in trouble for being bias and too selective'(sic). >> >> And yet, when I attempt to correct you on your 'unbiased' blog, I've >> never actually seen the comment go through. >> >> So, does that mean I'm lying?</span> > > What part of "My real name is not pcbutts1 or Christopher Butts" don't you > understand? When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and > directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so I > am allowed that courtesy.</span> And where did I say what your name is? I never received any complaint from any customer while I was the Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator. I never 'got in trouble' for my work managing those Newsgroups. I could care less who you claim to have called. I am telling you, and everyone, that as far as I am aware, it's a 100% lie and your suggesting that I got in trouble for my work performance borders on libel. Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 So sue me already. -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:3e497032-1a35-48f7-b670-46fa8d73fce2@v13g2000pro.googlegroups.com... On Aug 28, 10:21 pm, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> >>> The un bias real truth about me and >> >>> the quality of the tools I make can be found here Check my feedback >> >>> and >> >>> see what others have said about me and my >> >>> tools.http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/Ialsotell everyone >> >>> who >> >>> sends feedback or emails me directly not to comment in the NG because >> >>> they will >> >>> be ridiculed by the jealous others in this group. >> >> >> >> If that was 100% unbiased, you'd allow dissenting opinion, such as >> >> from me (John Eddy, former newsgroup administrator at MS), or even >> >> give me the chance to reply to your ridiculous claims about my time at >> >> Microsoft and your supposed influence on them. >> > >> > I allow only the truth dissenting or not. If you post something that is >> > a >> > flat out lie it will not get posted. >> ></span> >> The truth is that no one in my management chain ever heard from you >> and that no one ever talked to me about you within Microsoft. >> >> I did not 'get in trouble for being bias and too selective'(sic). >> >> And yet, when I attempt to correct you on your 'unbiased' blog, I've >> never actually seen the comment go through. >> >> So, does that mean I'm lying?</span> > > What part of "My real name is not pcbutts1 or Christopher Butts" don't you > understand? When I deal with MS I go straight to upper management and > directors not phone support. My company spends a lot of money with them so > I > am allowed that courtesy.</span> And where did I say what your name is? I never received any complaint from any customer while I was the Microsoft Newsgroups Administrator. I never 'got in trouble' for my work managing those Newsgroups. I could care less who you claim to have called. I am telling you, and everyone, that as far as I am aware, it's a 100% lie and your suggesting that I got in trouble for my work performance borders on libel. Quote
Guest Gregg Hill Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Indeed I do! http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpawardintro Gregg Hill "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message news:udS5Y6ZCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message > news:6BLtk.11734$vn7.3478@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:green"> >> You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't >> even understand what you are reading. >> >> -- </span> > I think he understands perfectly what he's reading. </span> Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 From: "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> | Indeed I do! http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpawardintro | Gregg Hill You are a good critical thinker. Keep it up ! -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Well the you lied when you said this "I found in Google searches evidence from Microsoft employees indicating that you are not an MVP" MS would not post anything saying that for two reasons. 1. Because I am a current MS MVP and they know it. 2. MS employees who deal with this stuff do not posts to newsgroups. Now do you want to back up your lie by posting a link to that Google search? -- Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring them is not an option. "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote in message news:%23JtOOhiCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Indeed I do! http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpawardintro > > Gregg Hill > > > "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message > news:udS5Y6ZCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >> news:6BLtk.11734$vn7.3478@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't >>> even understand what you are reading. >>> >>> -- </span> >> I think he understands perfectly what he's reading.</span> > > </span> Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 On Aug 29, 9:14Â am, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> I could care less who you claim to have called. Â I am telling you, and >> everyone, that as far as I am aware, it's a 100% lie and your >> suggesting that I got in trouble for my work performance borders on >> libel.</span> > > So sue me already.</span> I didn't say it was libel, I said it bordered on it. Further, in order to prove libel, I'd actually have to prove harm, which means someone would have to actually believe what you've said and react to it in a way that negatively impacts me (for instance, not offering me a job) and be willing to admit that it was your statements that helped them to make that decision. I'd think you'd know by now that I'm very precise with my wording from previous times when I have communicated with you. Quote
Guest Gregg Hill Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Yet it may actually be "slander" instead of libel! Gregg Hill "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e5851695-8a8b-4f63-88a3-cabaa0a917f1@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com... On Aug 29, 9:14 am, "The Real Truth MVP" <to...@tpap.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> I could care less who you claim to have called. I am telling you, and >> everyone, that as far as I am aware, it's a 100% lie and your >> suggesting that I got in trouble for my work performance borders on >> libel.</span> > > So sue me already.</span> I didn't say it was libel, I said it bordered on it. Further, in order to prove libel, I'd actually have to prove harm, which means someone would have to actually believe what you've said and react to it in a way that negatively impacts me (for instance, not offering me a job) and be willing to admit that it was your statements that helped them to make that decision. I'd think you'd know by now that I'm very precise with my wording from previous times when I have communicated with you. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 Gregg may have been referring to using Google to find out just where to look for info. on MVP's. You will appreciate that MS offers a facility here: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx? The Microsoft MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all the MVPs that want to share their information publicly. "No results were found for your search criteria" was the result achieved by searching for "The Real Truth MVP". May I suggest that you notify Microsoft that you are willing to share your information ........... and then tell us under which name we should search for you? Thanks Dave -- Quote
Guest Gregg Hill Posted August 30, 2008 Posted August 30, 2008 "Liar, liar, pants on fire!" Is that your only defense? (Yes, I know you did not use those exact words, so don't get all excited.) You stated, "You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't even understand what you are reading." Apparently, you thought that I do not even know what an MVP is, so I chose to stoop very low (again) and answer your ridiculous ASSUMPTION. I posted one link showing that I do know what an MVP is and you somehow think that is a "lie" on my part? NOWHERE did I say that the link had anything to do with my previous searches for your specific "The Real Truth MVP" misnomer. The two comments are TOTALLY UNRELATED. How about YOU step up and be a man and GIVE US A LINK proving that you are an MVP, i.e., a real official current Microsoft-awarded "Most Valuable Professional"? Or are you too chicken? Until you man up, NO ONE has any reason to believe a single word you say. Put your money where your mouth is. Until you do, I will have EVERY REASON to think it is you who is lying. Gregg Hill "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message news:0I0uk.18251$LG4.17776@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Well the you lied when you said this "I found in Google searches evidence > from Microsoft employees indicating that you are not an MVP" MS would not > post anything saying that for two reasons. > > 1. Because I am a current MS MVP and they know it. > 2. MS employees who deal with this stuff do not posts to newsgroups. > > Now do you want to back up your lie by posting a link to that Google > search? > > > -- > Cyberstalking is a crime. If you had one as bad as I did simply ignoring > them is not an option. > > > > > "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote > in message news:%23JtOOhiCJHA.4368@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Indeed I do! http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpawardintro >> >> Gregg Hill >> >> >> "---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message >> news:udS5Y6ZCJHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> "The Real Truth MVP" <toidi@tpap.com> wrote in message >>> news:6BLtk.11734$vn7.3478@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com... >>>> You are mistaking MVP's with MS employees, they are not. So you can't >>>> even understand what you are reading. >>>> >>>> -- >>> I think he understands perfectly what he's reading.</span> >> >></span> > </span> Quote
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