Guest puthp Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 hi, i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its own. initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very worried. i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious software Remover... none of them found anything. i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into command prompt, help at all?) thankyou Quote
Guest Flight Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 "puthp" <puthp@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht news:3A6F8A85-E376-4460-8651-150A58C3C851@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > hi, > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few > weeks > since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its own. > > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my > hand > on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly whizzed > to > the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my desktop > shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 > > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very > worried. > > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; > NAV > 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious > software Remover... none of them found anything. > > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly > i'm > frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing of > my > mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go --> > then > <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends up in a > completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse > > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into > command prompt, help at all?) > > thankyou</span> This is great! The mouse itself is moving? Do you feed your mouse with corn or cheese maybe? Quote
Guest Malke Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 puthp wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > hi, > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its > own. > > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 > > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very > worried. > > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious > software Remover... none of them found anything. > > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse > > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into > command prompt, help at all?)</span> Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Quote
Guest Eric Tiberius Duckman Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:11:17 -0700, Malke <malke@invalid.invalid> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >puthp wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> hi, >> >> i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few >> weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its >> own. >> >> initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a >> delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my >> hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly >> whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my >> desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 >> >> this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid >> attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very >> worried. >> >> i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; >> NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious >> software Remover... none of them found anything. >> >> i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious >> person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly >> i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing >> of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go >> --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends >> up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse >> >> so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is >> accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into >> command prompt, help at all?)</span> > >Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try >a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless >mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless >mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements. > >Malke</span> Go to "Start > Settings > Control Panel > Mouse > Pointer Options", look under "Snap To" and make sure "Automatically move pointer to the default button in a dialog box" is not checked. -- "...Amusing, yet not without a certain understated omniscience" Quote
Guest puthp Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has access to my computer? can anyone help please has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat' and, to those who tried to help: thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go. eric, that option was already un-ticked beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although not much) "Malke" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > puthp wrote: > <span style="color:green"> > > hi, > > > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few > > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its > > own. > > > > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a > > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my > > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly > > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above my > > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 > > > > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never paid > > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm very > > worried. > > > > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot S&D; > > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows Malicious > > software Remover... none of them found anything. > > > > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious > > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite frankly > > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden whizzing > > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt go > > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and ends > > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse > > > > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is > > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into > > command prompt, help at all?)</span> > > Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, try > a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless > mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless > mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ > > </span> Quote
Guest Mark H Posted August 27, 2008 Posted August 27, 2008 If the mouse has specific manufacturer related drivers, install them. Laser mice are known to be flaky without the proper driver. MS generic drivers are not always the best solution. Not only do they run and play all by themselves, they like to keep your computer awake at night. (I suspect they are afraid of the dark.) But, mostly if lighting conditions change (shading the mouse when you move, car passes by the house, street light goes out, night light blinks, etc.) they sometimes think they've been moved. "puthp" <puthp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8BDBD20E-D125-4489-A16E-5F29EB1E6723@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has > access to my computer? can anyone help please > > has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have > helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat' > > and, to those who tried to help: > > thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go. > > eric, that option was already un-ticked > > beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres > nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although</span> not<span style="color:blue"> > much) > > > > > "Malke" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> > > puthp wrote: > ><span style="color:darkred"> > > > hi, > > > > > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few > > > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on</span></span></span> its<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > own. > > > > > > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been</span></span></span> a<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my > > > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very</span></span></span> quickly<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above</span></span></span> my<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 > > > > > > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never</span></span></span> paid<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm</span></span></span> very<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > worried. > > > > > > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot</span></span></span> S&D;<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows</span></span></span> Malicious<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > software Remover... none of them found anything. > > > > > > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious > > > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite</span></span></span> frankly<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden</span></span></span> whizzing<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it</span></span></span> doesnt go<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and</span></span></span> ends<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse > > > > > > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can</span></span></span> access/is<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into > > > command prompt, help at all?)</span> > > > > Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse,</span></span> try<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> > > a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless > > mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless > > mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements. > > > > Malke > > -- > > MS-MVP > > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! > > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ > > > ></span></span> Quote
Guest beoweolf Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 You are going to need to setup and review your Firewall audit logs to see if anyone is coming into your system. As a first step, if you suspect someone is sharing your desk top is to pick the low hanging fruit, disable RDP remote desktop and/or any 3rd party sharing you have installed. Do what is needed to give you peace of mind. Tools like TCPview coupled with tasklist, might provide some insight if you do not have intrusion detection installed. "puthp" <puthp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8BDBD20E-D125-4489-A16E-5F29EB1E6723@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > My main question wasnt answered; is there anyway i can tell if someone has > access to my computer? can anyone help please > > has my malware checks been thorough enough? i thought netstat might have > helped, although i'd need to be told which letters to type after 'netstat' > > and, to those who tried to help: > > thanks malke, i'll give another mouse a go. > > eric, that option was already un-ticked > > beoweolfe, it is a wired mouse but its one of those laser ones, so theres > nothing to open, but i cleaned a little dust from underneath it (although > not > much) > > > > > "Malke" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> puthp wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >> > hi, >> > >> > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few >> > weeks since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on >> > its >> > own. >> > >> > initially i thought perhaps i had moved the mouse, and there had been a >> > delay in what i saw on-screen, so i ignored it. but just now, i put my >> > hand on the mouse but didn't move it at all... and it very very quickly >> > whizzed to the right, and then far to the left, finishing right above >> > my >> > desktop shortcut for Ad-Aware 2008 >> > >> > this has happened a few times, the sudden movements i mean. (i never >> > paid >> > attention to where the mouse ended up)... it's very spooky, and i'm >> > very >> > worried. >> > >> > i'm not a security expert, so i've done scans with Ad-aware; spybot >> > S&D; >> > NAV 08 (now dumped due to IE problems it caused); Avast; Windows >> > Malicious >> > software Remover... none of them found anything. >> > >> > i also have the vista firewall on, and ZA firewall on (i'm a cautious >> > person) so nobody should be able to access my computer, but quite >> > frankly >> > i'm frightened someone's got access to my computer... the sudden >> > whizzing >> > of my mouse is quite alarming, off the top of my head usually it doesnt >> > go >> > --> then <--, i think when it happens it usually moves randomly, and >> > ends >> > up in a completely different place to where i intend to move the mouse >> > >> > so my question is, is there any way i can tell if someone can access/is >> > accessing my computer? (for example, would typing "netstat -n -a" into >> > command prompt, help at all?)</span> >> >> Is this a wireless mouse? If yes, change the battery. If a wired mouse, >> try >> a different mouse. This behavior also can happen if you have a wireless >> mouse and are in an environment where someone else also has a wireless >> mouse. Your system can pick up their mouse movements. >> >> Malke >> -- >> MS-MVP >> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! >> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ >> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest LoneStar Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 "puthp" <puthp@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3A6F8A85-E376-4460-8651-150A58C3C851@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > hi, > > i know this sounds a little strange, but a few times now (in past few</span> weeks<span style="color:blue"> > since i've upgraded to vista) i've found the mouse has moved on its own. ></span> This is a long-shot answer, but I've seen the problem in the past. If you are using an optical mouse on a rug type surface, the mouse pointer will have a tendency to travel on its own. Apparently the optical sensors reflect off the rug type surface erratically. Using a ball mouse will test your system and prove the point. But again ---- a long shot. You've probably fixed it by now, right? Quote
Guest CHEESE55 Posted October 6, 2008 Posted October 6, 2008 I have this same problem - have had it since starting to use Vista. The mouse will randomly move back to the Start button or to the upper right-hand corner of my display where there is a tool bar (ACER supplied software). I am using an optical mouse on a wood-grain desk. If anyone can send me instructions on how to correct this or where to find a patch I'd greatly appreciate it. BTW - I used the same desk with XP and an optical mouse and did not have this problem. -- CHEESE55 Quote
Guest Michael D. Ober Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 "CHEESE55" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:11fc249c790452da48a66c637ea98181@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > I have this same problem - have had it since starting to use Vista. The > mouse will randomly move back to the Start button or to the upper > right-hand corner of my display where there is a tool bar (ACER supplied > software). I am using an optical mouse on a wood-grain desk. If anyone > can send me instructions on how to correct this or where to find a patch > I'd greatly appreciate it. BTW - I used the same desk with XP and an > optical mouse and did not have this problem. > > > -- > CHEESE55 ></span> Are you using the MS or Logitech drivers? If not, revert to the MS drivers and see if the same problem occurs. This sounds like a driver problem. The only other time I have seen mice move on their own is when the mouse tail (cord) was hanging off the desk and dragging the mouse across the desk. This tends to move the mouse up and to the side of the desk. Mike Ober. Quote
Guest Elkheights Posted October 7, 2008 Posted October 7, 2008 Hi, Hope this will help. Go to Control Panel/Mouse/Pointer Option/Snap To and uncheck Automatically move pointer to the default button in dialog box. "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam.> wrote in message news:RIudnV4l85OWTHfVnZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@earthlink.com... "CHEESE55" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:11fc249c790452da48a66c637ea98181@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > I have this same problem - have had it since starting to use Vista. The > mouse will randomly move back to the Start button or to the upper > right-hand corner of my display where there is a tool bar (ACER supplied > software). I am using an optical mouse on a wood-grain desk. If anyone > can send me instructions on how to correct this or where to find a patch > I'd greatly appreciate it. BTW - I used the same desk with XP and an > optical mouse and did not have this problem. > > > -- > CHEESE55 ></span> Are you using the MS or Logitech drivers? If not, revert to the MS drivers and see if the same problem occurs. This sounds like a driver problem. The only other time I have seen mice move on their own is when the mouse tail (cord) was hanging off the desk and dragging the mouse across the desk. This tends to move the mouse up and to the side of the desk. Mike Ober. Quote
Guest ahsatan Posted October 16, 2008 Posted October 16, 2008 I use vista and was having the same problem. That pointing device to default button was unchecked and I am using a Dell USB mouse. I recently read somewhere something about multimedia devices or photo editing softwares running in the background could cause that. Pretty weird/peculiar. So I checked my msconfig and Task Manager and found two files by Windows Media Center. I disabled them and its been 24 hours - the problem hasn't retured. I have had it since I installed Vista. My cousin doesn't use a mouse and has the same problem. So I am guessing, it might not be the mouse, just vista. Who knows. Worth a try! ahsatan -- ahsatan ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ahsatan's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=654 View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20640 Quote
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