Guest Coogee Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set up OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the newsgroups on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me to log on to the newsgroups server- "verify that both username and password are correct for your mail server". After I enter user name and password, and click OK, the screen keeps popping up asking for same prompt. I am giving it the correct info, but will not accept, so can't begin to download newsgroups. Whatever I enter will change what's in the account screen for the server setup. Tried turning all the windows security options off that I could find, but still can't get past the security screen. Any advice on this? Quote
Guest Malke Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 Coogee wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up > newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set up > OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the > newsgroups on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me to > log on to the newsgroups server- "verify that both username and password > are correct for > your mail server". After I enter user name and password, and click OK, > the screen keeps popping up asking for same prompt. I am giving it the > correct > info, but will not accept, so can't begin to download newsgroups. > Whatever I enter will change what's in the account screen for the server > setup. Tried turning all the windows security options off that I could > find, but still can't get past the security screen. Any advice on this?</span> Which newsgroups and which NNTP server? If you are talking about one provided by your ISP, then go to the ISP's website and double-check what authorization is needed. It sounds like you aren't using the correct information. For instance, my ISP (Comcast) uses a different authentication for newsgroups than for email. It would also help if you told us what newsreader you're using (Windows Mail, Thunderbird, etc.). Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Quote
Guest Mr. Arnold Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 "Coogee" <coogee@peoplepc.com> wrote in message news:uWYqB6TGJHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up > newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set up > OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the > newsgroups on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me to > log on to the newsgroups server- "verify that both username and password > are correct for your mail server". After I enter user name and password, > and click OK, the screen keeps popping up asking for same prompt. I am > giving it the correct info, but will not accept, so can't begin to > download newsgroups. Whatever I enter will change what's in the account > screen for the server setup. Tried turning all the windows security > options off that I could find, but still can't get past the security > screen. Any advice on this?</span> Well, if you're using Windows Mail as the newsreader, then WM won't hold that user-id and psw at times, and it won't accept the credentials with repeated prompts asking for the credentials. You can be posting and it will loose the credentials too, and it starts prompting. The best way to fix this is to shutdown the newsreader, start it up again, go to your account and give the credentials there to see if they will hold permanently. I have seen this problem on Vista for Outlook and POP3 where the credentials are lost, and it keeps asking for the credentials and never holds, until one goes back to the account to fix it. Quote
Guest Coogee Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same. "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message news:%23$x76mYGJHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Coogee" <coogee@peoplepc.com> wrote in message > news:uWYqB6TGJHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up >> newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set >> up OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the >> newsgroups on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me to >> log on to the newsgroups server- "verify that both username and password >> are correct for your mail server". After I enter user name and password, >> and click OK, the screen keeps popping up asking for same prompt. I am >> giving it the correct info, but will not accept, so can't begin to >> download newsgroups. Whatever I enter will change what's in the account >> screen for the server setup. Tried turning all the windows security >> options off that I could find, but still can't get past the security >> screen. Any advice on this?</span> > > Well, if you're using Windows Mail as the newsreader, then WM won't hold > that user-id and psw at times, and it won't accept the credentials with > repeated prompts asking for the credentials. You can be posting and it > will loose the credentials too, and it starts prompting. > > The best way to fix this is to shutdown the newsreader, start it up again, > go to your account and give the credentials there to see if they will hold > permanently. > > I have seen this problem on Vista for Outlook and POP3 where the > credentials are lost, and it keeps asking for the credentials and never > holds, until one goes back to the account to fix it. > > </span> Quote
Guest Paul Adare - MVP Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:58:49 -0500, Coogee wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same.</span> Then you need to go back to whomever the news provider is and work with them. Some news servers (for example the ones that host the Microsoft private news groups) require that the username be preceded by a domain name - domainname\username. -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken. Quote
Guest Mr. Arnold Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 " Coogee" <coogee@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:6472318F-BA5B-49D0-BF39-5D6F1290B08F@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same.</span> Well, you have actually shutdown the newsreader, you went to the account in the newsreader, and you entered the credentials again, typing over the existing credentials in the boxes. You may have to do it repeated times there too before it will hold the credentials. But you giving them when you're being prompted for the credentials is not going to work. On there other hand, you could be giving the wrong credentials. I don't know. Quote
Guest Coogee Posted September 18, 2008 Posted September 18, 2008 I have the same account set up on my desktop, which uses Win XP. So it's not a matter of not knowing the correct names. The news server is ready to download, except for that pesky Windows security popup. "Paul Adare - MVP" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message news:j4wlyb416daw$.1luliaasidhhi$.dlg@40tude.net...<span style="color:blue"> > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:58:49 -0500, Coogee wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same.</span> > > Then you need to go back to whomever the news provider is and work with > them. Some news servers (for example the ones that host the Microsoft > private news groups) require that the username be preceded by a domain > name > - domainnameusername. > > -- > Paul Adare > MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager > http://www.identit.ca > A computer scientist is someone who fixes things that aren't broken. </span> Quote
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Coogee wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up > newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set up > OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the newsgroups > on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me to log on to the > newsgroups server- "verify that both username and password are correct for > your mail server". After I enter user name and password, and click OK, the > screen keeps popping up asking for same prompt. I am giving it the correct > info, but will not accept, so can't begin to download newsgroups. Whatever > I enter will change what's in the account screen for the server setup. Tried > turning all the windows security options off that I could find, but still > can't get past the security screen. Any advice on this? > > </span> Contact your ISP (or the whomever is hosting the news server to which your trying to connect) to ascertain the correct settings for logging into their server. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Quote
Guest Gordon Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 " Coogee" <coogee@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:6472318F-BA5B-49D0-BF39-5D6F1290B08F@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same. ></span> I have never known an ISP news server that requires the ISP customer TO log-in. Are you SURE that your ISP's news server requires you to enter a Username and Password? Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 " Coogee" <coogee@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:6472318F-BA5B-49D0-BF39-5D6F1290B08F@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same. > > > "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@Arnold.com> wrote in message > news:%23$x76mYGJHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Coogee" <coogee@peoplepc.com> wrote in message >> news:uWYqB6TGJHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> New laptop with Vista. I'm the admin, only account. Trying to set up >>> newsgroups from my news server, which requires me to log on. All is set >>> up OK in the account screens. When I try to initially download the >>> newsgroups on the server, up pops a Windows security notice, asking me >>> to log on to the newsgroups server-</span></span></span> <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> "verify that both username and password are correct for your mail >>> server".</span></span></span> Why is it asking about a mail server when you are trying to configure a news server connection? <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>> After I enter user name and password, and click OK, the screen keeps >>> popping up asking for same prompt. I am giving it the correct info, but >>> will not accept, so can't begin to download newsgroups. Whatever I >>> enter will change what's in the account screen for the server setup. >>> Tried turning all the windows security options off that I could find, >>> but still can't get past the security screen. Any advice on this?</span> >> >> Well, if you're using Windows Mail as the newsreader, then WM won't hold >> that user-id and psw at times, and it won't accept the credentials with >> repeated prompts asking for the credentials. You can be posting and it >> will loose the credentials too, and it starts prompting. >> >> The best way to fix this is to shutdown the newsreader, start it up >> again, go to your account and give the credentials there to see if they >> will hold permanently. >> >> I have seen this problem on Vista for Outlook and POP3 where the >> credentials are lost, and it keeps asking for the credentials and never >> holds, until one goes back to the account to fix it. >> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Coogee Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Just another part of the mystery. "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message news:eVc8MLoGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>>>> "verify that both username and password are correct for your mail >>>> server".</span></span> > > Why is it asking about a mail server when you are > trying to configure a news server connection? ></span> Quote
Guest Coogee Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Yes I is. "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message news:eCfTvcnGJHA.3668@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >" Coogee" <coogee@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >news:6472318F-BA5B-49D0-BF39-5D6F1290B08F@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I have done this many, many times, and the results are still the same. >></span> > > I have never known an ISP news server that requires the ISP customer TO > log-in. Are you SURE that your ISP's news server requires you to enter a > Username and Password? </span> Quote
Guest Dave T. Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Coogee wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > Just another part of the mystery. > > "FromTheRafters" <erratic@ne.rr.com> wrote in message > news:eVc8MLoGJHA.3548@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >>>>>> "verify that both username and password are correct for your mail >>>>> server".</span> >> >> Why is it asking about a mail server when you are >> trying to configure a news server connection? >></span> > </span> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader I use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, it is only for subscribers. I have the option of using any server I want outside of my ISP, but I would likely have to pay extra for it. -- Dave T. You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito, Emporer of Japan Quote
Guest Paul Montgomery Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:35:59 -0700, "Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >I have the option of using any server I want >outside of my ISP, but I would likely have to pay extra for it.</span> There are free news servers out there. Google is your friend. Quote
Guest Gordon Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 "Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader I > use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is > required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, > it is only for subscribers.</span> Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the news server....way to go USA! Quote
Guest Paul Montgomery Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:23:42 +0100, "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >"Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message >news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader I >> use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is >> required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, >> it is only for subscribers.</span> > >Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a >particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes >you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the >news server....way to go USA! </span> Umm... Gordon, old boy: In the USA, most always-on broadband connections don't require a log-in. Quote
Guest Paul Montgumdrop Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Gordon wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > log-in for the news server....way to go USA!</span> Is the real you about to show here? Quote
Guest Dave T. Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Gordon wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message > news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what >> reader I use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a >> log on is required to access it. They don't want to give the news >> server for free, it is only for subscribers.</span> > > Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a > particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP > assumes you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate > log-in for the news server....way to go USA!</span> My apologies, I wasn't very clear. No user name or password for the news server, just the ISP. The thing is that T-bird is an all in one just like windows mail. It handles mail and news and whenever I open t-bird the first thing it does is log on to the ISP to download mail and news headers. -- Dave T. You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito, Emporer of Japan Quote
Guest Dave T. Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Paul Montgomery wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:23:42 +0100, "Gordon" > <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> >> "Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message >> news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader I >>> use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is >>> required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, >>> it is only for subscribers.</span> >> Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a >> particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes >> you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the >> news server....way to go USA! </span> > > Umm... Gordon, old boy: In the USA, most always-on broadband > connections don't require a log-in. > </span> It does when your reader is downloading mail from a pop server. -- Dave T. You can't imagine the extra work I had when I was a god. - Hirohito, Emporer of Japan Quote
Guest Gordon Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 "Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:2oc9d4do3mrthdt4jh1949cv209oeb2599@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:23:42 +0100, "Gordon" > <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>"Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message >>news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader >>> I >>> use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is >>> required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, >>> it is only for subscribers.</span> >> >>Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a >>particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes >>you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the >>news server....way to go USA!</span> > > Umm... Gordon, old boy: In the USA, most always-on broadband > connections don't require a log-in. ></span> I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control who uses it's services? Quote
Guest Paul Adare - MVP Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, Gordon wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will > contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control who > uses it's services?</span> And you'd be wrong. Access is typically controlled by restricting the subnet from which access can be gained to those subnets controlled by the ISP in question. While there are some ISPs that use PPOE most are simply direct connect with no user name or password required. -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca Your password is pitifully obvious. Quote
Guest Paul Montgomery Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >"Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message >news:2oc9d4do3mrthdt4jh1949cv209oeb2599@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:23:42 +0100, "Gordon" >> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>"Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message >>>news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>> >>>> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what reader >>>> I >>>> use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is >>>> required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for free, >>>> it is only for subscribers. >>> >>>Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a >>>particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP assumes >>>you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for the >>>news server....way to go USA!</span> >> >> Umm... Gordon, old boy: In the USA, most always-on broadband >> connections don't require a log-in. >></span> > >I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will >contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control who >uses it's services? </span> ?? We use MODEMS, not routers. In the case of cable broadband, the node is activated for access or it isn't. As for DSL... same thing, but it's the phone connection at the switching station's end. NO log-in credentials required. Routers are used only when one wants to share a connection with multiple computers. Still, no log-in is required by the computer connected to the modem. Quote
Guest Paul Montgomery Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:45:00 -0400, Paul Adare - MVP <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, Gordon wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will >> contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control who >> uses it's services?</span> > >And you'd be wrong. Access is typically controlled by restricting the >subnet from which access can be gained to those subnets controlled by the >ISP in question. While there are some ISPs that use PPOE most are simply >direct connect with no user name or password required.</span> RCN - a struggling ISP/phone/cable provider - while not requiring log-in credentials - does require that the modem be "registered" with them. One either rents the modem from them - or buys their own - and the machine ID is then allowed to connect. Routers can be used at will behind the modem. Quote
Guest Gordon Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 "Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:mrhhd4t20jo5uk1u2ar85ug9n6mpmiua2a@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, "Gordon" > <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>"Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message >>news:2oc9d4do3mrthdt4jh1949cv209oeb2599@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:23:42 +0100, "Gordon" >>> <gordonbparker@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>"Dave T." <davey@MyPlace.net> wrote in message >>>>news:jkZAk.1098$c45.775@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com... >>>>> >>>>> Alas, 'tis the same for me. I use T-bird, but regardless of what >>>>> reader >>>>> I >>>>> use the news server is provided to me through my ISP, and a log on is >>>>> required to access it. They don't want to give the news server for >>>>> free, >>>>> it is only for subscribers. >>>> >>>>Interesting. In the UK, if you are accessing the internet through a >>>>particular ISP, which always involves log-in credentials, the ISP >>>>assumes >>>>you ARE a subscriber, and thus does not require a separate log-in for >>>>the >>>>news server....way to go USA! >>> >>> Umm... Gordon, old boy: In the USA, most always-on broadband >>> connections don't require a log-in. >>></span> >> >>I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will >>contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control who >>uses it's services?</span> > > ?? > > We use MODEMS, not routers. > > In the case of cable broadband, the node is activated for access or it > isn't. As for DSL... same thing, but it's the phone connection at the > switching station's end. > > NO log-in credentials required. > > Routers are used only when one wants to share a connection with > multiple computers. Still, no log-in is required by the computer > connected to the modem. ></span> <sigh> - the setup for the MODEM (or whatever you call it) will have in it a Username and Password - no you don't need to type those in every time you access the internet but I can assure you they are there....The account you have with your ISP WILL have a Username and Password associated with it... Quote
Guest Gordon Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 "Paul Montgomery" <i.m.nonnymous@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message news:6cihd451nkgk5k8p4j2bdnqumol0knlgi6@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:45:00 -0400, Paul Adare - MVP > <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 07:22:28 +0100, Gordon wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> I think you'll find, even in the Colonies, that the Router set-up will >>> contain a User name and Password - how otherwise would the ISP control >>> who >>> uses it's services?</span> >> >>And you'd be wrong. Access is typically controlled by restricting the >>subnet from which access can be gained to those subnets controlled by the >>ISP in question. While there are some ISPs that use PPOE most are simply >>direct connect with no user name or password required.</span> > > RCN - a struggling ISP/phone/cable provider - while not requiring > log-in credentials - does require that the modem be "registered" with > them. One either rents the modem from them - or buys their own - and > the machine ID is then allowed to connect. > > Routers can be used at will behind the modem.</span> as I said - way to go USA! Quote
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