Guest chas Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. Thanks, Chas Quote
Guest Ken Blake, MVP Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:06:01 -0700, chas <no@emailreply.please> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? > Any thoughts or comparisons welcome.</span> In my view, Norton products are the worst available. OneCare isn't very much better. I am very much against the idea of software suites, whether security, office, or any other kind. I believe in choosing what I consider to be the best product of each particular type, without regard for what some vendor has packaged together as a suite. The best antivirus program available is NOD32. If you want a freeware product, I recommend Avast! -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup Quote
Guest Mick Murphy Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Security Suites are bloatware. Use specific applications. Vista'a firewall is good. http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html Avast Anti-Virus is Vista compatible (32bit and 64bit Versions), FREE, auto-updating, and a low resources user of your computer. And, only have 1(one) Anti-Virus installed / running on your computer at any one time.. Conflicts may occur if you have more than 1(one). -- Mad Mike "chas" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? > Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. > Thanks, > Chas > </span> Quote
Guest Carey Frisch [MVP] Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Microsoft just released a new, vastly improved, version of Windows OneCare. You can try it free for 90 days. http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience --------------------------------------------------------------------- "chas" <no@emailreply.please> wrote in message news:ss-dnUN2mrC6kHjVnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@earthlink.com... Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. Thanks, Chas Quote
Guest Bruce Chambers Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 chas wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? > Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. > Thanks, > Chas</span> You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will responses. I'll start by saying that I don't think any security "suite" is a good choice. It'd be better to use smaller, less-resource-draining stand-alone products. And, having had personal experience with Verizon's business practices, I certainly wouldn't trust anything they offer. Even if the product/service itself is fine, there'll be hidden costs and "unadvertised" conditions and limitations associated with it. I had used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all without any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that. But it's been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee products. Their quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were acquired by Network Associates. However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ). It proved to be easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I was pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product. Another free (for personal use) anti-virus product is AVAST! 4 Home Edition (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html), which is what I've used without problems on both WinXP Pro and Vista Business. For a recent comparison of anti-virus products: Retrospective / ProActive Test http://www.av-comparatives.org/ Vista's built-in firewall is perfectly adequate for most people. While it's not quite up to the ease-of-use standards of Kerio or ZoneAlarm, it has been noticeably improved over WinXP's version. There are two interfaces for Vistas built-in firewall: 1) A simplified one accessed through the Control Panel that is the only one most people see. To further supplement this view, Sphinx's Vista Firewall Control http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/) is a piece of freeware that makes the Vista Firewall much more easily manageable to the average user. 2) And the more advanced "Windows Firewall with Advanced Security (WF.msc), accessed via the Start Menu's Administrative Tools folder, for the experienced user who wants more granular control. To find and/or deal with issues caused by any sort of "adware" and/or "spyware," two products that are quite effective (at finding and removing this type of scumware) are Ad-Aware SE from www.lavasoft.de and SpyBot Search & Destroy from www.safer-networking.org/. Both have free versions. It's even possible to use SpyBot Search & Destroy to "immunize" your system against most future intrusions. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot Quote
Guest Victek Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 "chas" <no@emailreply.please> wrote in message news:ss-dnUN2mrC6kHjVnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@earthlink.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? > Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. > Thanks, > Chas</span> Until very recently I would not recommend a Norton product, however the new Norton Internet Security 2009 (and Norton Antivirus 2009) are dramatically improved. I have NIS 2009 on three computers and it is running flawlessly. It installs in less then two minutes and doesn't need a reboot, receives "pulse updates" as often as every five minutes, and most importantly has very low impact on system resources. In recent reviews it has scored very well in terms of detection and malware removal. I would stay away from Norton 360 v2 which is a real pig in the old Norton tradition. Hopefully it will get revamped, but the only thing it offers over NIS is online backup AFAICT. Quote
Guest Victor Constantinescu Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Hi, I would second Ken's suggestion for NOD32 and add the Windows Vista Firewall. With a little common sense you'll be just fine security-wise. -- Victor Constantinescu aka YounGun Security MVP http://victor-youngun.blogspot.com/ "chas" <no@emailreply.please> wrote in message news:ss-dnUN2mrC6kHjVnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@earthlink.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? > Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. > Thanks, > Chas </span> Quote
Guest Donald L McDaniel Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:51:49 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Microsoft just released a new, vastly improved, version of Windows OneCare. >You can try it free for 90 days. >http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm</span> Come on, Cary. Why not let them know about how the commercial product W1C is being taken off the Market by Microsoft very soon, and replaced by a completely free product. Why have them pay for a year of the commercial product when the same product is being re-released by Microsoft in the Summer of the coming year completely for free. Either Microsoft thinks that security is more important than money for real, or they just couldn't sell W1C at any price. I tend to believe the latter. But it's possible that MS has developed a social conscience, too. Too bad their first product from their new social conscience is such a poor product. By the way, Carey, where is yours to make such a recommendation for a soon-to-be-discontinued product? Suggesting a trial product for long-term security is irrational and poor social engineering. You have a "bully pulpit" here. Use it for promoting good, rather than shilling for Microsoft, why don't ya? -- Donald L McDaniel Promote Peace and Doing the right thing. Quote
Guest Paul Adare Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 01:11:39 -0800, Donald L McDaniel wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:51:49 -0500, "Carey Frisch [MVP]" > <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote: > <span style="color:green"> >>Microsoft just released a new, vastly improved, version of Windows OneCare. >>You can try it free for 90 days. >>http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm</span> > > > Come on, Cary. Why not let them know about how the commercial product > W1C is being taken off the Market by Microsoft very soon, and replaced > by a completely free product. > > Why have them pay for a year of the commercial product when the same > product is being re-released by Microsoft in the Summer of the coming > year completely for free. > > Either Microsoft thinks that security is more important than money for > real, or they just couldn't sell W1C at any price. I tend to believe > the latter. > > But it's possible that MS has developed a social conscience, too. Too > bad their first product from their new social conscience is such a > poor product. > > By the way, Carey, where is yours to make such a recommendation for a > soon-to-be-discontinued product? > > Suggesting a trial product for long-term security is irrational and > poor social engineering. You have a "bully pulpit" here. Use it for > promoting good, rather than shilling for Microsoft, why don't ya?</span> You know, if you're going to throw stones at folks here it might behoove you to get your facts straight first. Notice the attribution line above from your post, which contains the date that Carey posted the post to which you responded. Now perhaps you might want to go and check the PressPass section of the Microsoft web site to see when the discontinuation of OneCare was announced. See the problem here? -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca Quote
Guest Donald L McDaniel Posted December 30, 2008 Posted December 30, 2008 On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:51:59 -0700, "Victek" <Victek@invalid.invalid> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > > >"chas" <no@emailreply.please> wrote in message >news:ss-dnUN2mrC6kHjVnZ2dnUVZ_tzinZ2d@earthlink.com...<span style="color:green"> >> Windows Liveâ„¢ OneCareâ„¢ , Norton 360? or ??? >> Any thoughts or comparisons welcome. >> Thanks, >> Chas</span> > >Until very recently I would not recommend a Norton product, however the new >Norton Internet Security 2009 (and Norton Antivirus 2009) are dramatically >improved. I have NIS 2009 on three computers and it is running flawlessly. >It installs in less then two minutes and doesn't need a reboot, receives >"pulse updates" as often as every five minutes, and most importantly has >very low impact on system resources. In recent reviews it has scored very >well in terms of detection and malware removal. I would stay away from >Norton 360 v2 which is a real pig in the old Norton tradition. Hopefully it >will get revamped, but the only thing it offers over NIS is online backup >AFAICT. </span> Commercial Products: Kaspersky Internet Security 2009 -- Absolutely the best Security Package on the Market Avira Internet Security 2009 -- Comes in a good Second Free Products Avira Antivirus 2009 Home Edition Avast! 4 Home Edition Comodo Firewall PCTools Firewall LAST CHOICE Windows Live OneCare -- It is discontinuing as a commercial product this coming year and being replaced with a free offering from Microsoft. Additionally, it is a poorly-working product if the object is to get rid of viruses or other malware and be safe from the same. -- Donald L McDaniel Quote
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