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Posted

But there's nothing in C:\Recycler\...

 

I'm using the Corporate Edition of NAV on our Win2k Server based

network. It's an older version but it gets updates regularly. I'm not

really interested in discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of Norton

unless it directly involves my situation. I don't know, maybe NAV is

broken.

 

Norton is reporting that there is a virus found in my C:\Recycler\

(Win2k Pro). It says it's Trojan.Gernid and it's an .exe within a zip

file. I've researched what this virus is suppose to do but as far as I

can tell my computer isn't infected, other than the fact that Norton

says it's there.

 

The recycle bin is empty and I empty it on a semi-regular basis. A

manual scan shows nothing but every 10 minutes the virus history list

in NAV shows another instance of the virus.

 

Is NAV broken or is there something I haven't considered?

 

--

Jordon

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

From: "Jordon" <jordon.haguewood@gmail.com>

 

| But there's nothing in C:\Recycler\...

 

| I'm using the Corporate Edition of NAV on our Win2k Server based

| network. It's an older version but it gets updates regularly. I'm not

| really interested in discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of Norton

| unless it directly involves my situation. I don't know, maybe NAV is

| broken.

 

| Norton is reporting that there is a virus found in my C:\Recycler\

| (Win2k Pro). It says it's Trojan.Gernid and it's an .exe within a zip

| file. I've researched what this virus is suppose to do but as far as I

| can tell my computer isn't infected, other than the fact that Norton

| says it's there.

 

| The recycle bin is empty and I empty it on a semi-regular basis. A

| manual scan shows nothing but every 10 minutes the virus history list

| in NAV shows another instance of the virus.

 

| Is NAV broken or is there something I haven't considered?

 

| --

| Jordon

 

 

If it is there it is hidden.

 

 

Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --

http://www.pctip.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

or

http://212.98.39.7/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

 

http://www.pctip.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

or

http://212.98.39.7/downloads/dl/35905.asp

 

English:

http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...virus-for-free/

 

 

To use this utility, perform the following...

Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:\AV-CLS }

Choose; Unzip

Choose; Close

 

Execute; C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT

{ or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS }

 

NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go through your

FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.

 

C:\AV-CLS\StartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:\AV-CLS}

This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in Normal Mode.

This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web site.

The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot the PC.

 

You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or you can

download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded the files

needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe Mode [F8 key

during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to run in Safe

Mode. It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.

 

When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more comprehensive PDF help

file.

 

Additional Instructions:

http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm

 

 

Please report back your results

 

 

 

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Posted

On Oct 24, 1:07 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>

wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> From: "Jordon" <jordon.haguew...@gmail.com>

>

> | But there's nothing in C:Recycler...

>

> | I'm using the Corporate Edition of NAV on our Win2k Server based

> | network. It's an older version but it gets updates regularly. I'm not

> | really interested in discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of Norton

> | unless it directly involves my situation. I don't know, maybe NAV is

> | broken.

>

> | Norton is reporting that there is a virus found in my C:Recycler

> | (Win2k Pro). It says it's Trojan.Gernid and it's an .exe within a zip

> | file. I've researched what this virus is suppose to do but as far as I

> | can tell my computer isn't infected, other than the fact that Norton

> | says it's there.

>

> | The recycle bin is empty and I empty it on a semi-regular basis. A

> | manual scan shows nothing but every 10 minutes the virus history list

> | in NAV shows another instance of the virus.

>

> | Is NAV broken or is there something I haven't considered?

>

> | --

> | Jordon

>

> If it is there it is hidden.

>

> Download MULTI_AV.EXE from the URL --http://www.pctip.ch/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

> orhttp://212.98.39.7/ds/28400/28470/Multi_AV.exe

>

> http://www.pctip.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

> orhttp://212.98.39.7/downloads/dl/35905.asp

>

> English:http://www.raymond.cc/blog/archives/2008/0...ur-computer-wit...

>

> To use this utility, perform the following...

> Execute; Multi_AV.exe { Note: You must use the default folder C:AV-CLS }

> Choose; Unzip

> Choose; Close

>

> Execute; C:AV-CLSStartMenu.BAT

> { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:AV-CLS }

>

> NOTE: You may have to disable your software FireWall or allow WGET.EXE to go through your

> FireWall to allow it to download the needed AV vendor related files.

>

> C:AV-CLSStartMenu.BAT -- { or Double-click on 'Start Menu' in C:AV-CLS}

> This will bring up the initial menu of choices and should be executed in Normal Mode.

> This way all the components can be downloaded from each AV vendor's web site.

> The choices are; Sophos, Trend, McAfee, Kaspersky, Exit this menu and Reboot the PC.

>

> You can choose to go to each menu item and just download the needed files or you can

> download the files and perform a scan in Normal Mode. Once you have downloaded the files

> needed for each scanner you want to use, you should reboot the PC into Safe Mode [F8 key

> during boot] and re-run the menu again and choose which scanner you want to run in Safe

> Mode.  It is suggested to run the scanners in both Safe Mode and Normal Mode.

>

> When the menu is displayed hitting 'H' or 'h' will bring up a more comprehensive PDF help

> file.

>

> Additional Instructions:http://pcdid.com/Multi_AV.htm

>

>   Please report back your results  

>

> --

> Davehttp://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

> Multi-AV -http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp</span>

 

NAV must be broken. I used your tool and scanned with multiple

scanners and

nothing was found. FWIW, you mentioned that "if it is there it must be

hidden".

You're referring to the hidden attribute? First thing I do after

installing an OS is

to turn on viewing of system and hidden files.

 

--

Jordon

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

From: "Jordon" <jordon.haguewood@gmail.com>

 

 

 

| NAV must be broken. I used your tool and scanned with multiple

| scanners and

| nothing was found. FWIW, you mentioned that "if it is there it must be

| hidden".

| You're referring to the hidden attribute? First thing I do after

| installing an OS is

| to turn on viewing of system and hidden files.

 

| --

| Jordon

 

First off you have to view outside of Explorer.

 

Download and run Gmer

http://www.gmer.net/index.php

 

Let's see if you have a RootKit causing this issue.

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Guest Peter Foldes
Posted

Just a shot.

 

Is it in the Norton Recycle Bin by any chance

 

--

Peter

 

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

 

"Jordon" <jordon.haguewood@gmail.com> wrote in message news:70a49c31-6e12-4994-8511-8de78c062ded@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com...<span style="color:blue">

> But there's nothing in C:Recycler...

>

> I'm using the Corporate Edition of NAV on our Win2k Server based

> network. It's an older version but it gets updates regularly. I'm not

> really interested in discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of Norton

> unless it directly involves my situation. I don't know, maybe NAV is

> broken.

>

> Norton is reporting that there is a virus found in my C:Recycler

> (Win2k Pro). It says it's Trojan.Gernid and it's an .exe within a zip

> file. I've researched what this virus is suppose to do but as far as I

> can tell my computer isn't infected, other than the fact that Norton

> says it's there.

>

> The recycle bin is empty and I empty it on a semi-regular basis. A

> manual scan shows nothing but every 10 minutes the virus history list

> in NAV shows another instance of the virus.

>

> Is NAV broken or is there something I haven't considered?

>

> --

> Jordon

></span>

Posted

Should we be suspicious?

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> has recently said..

 

"You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully

loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection"

 

(his mis-spelling of 'Server')

 

Wikipedia tells me ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Server )

 

"An enterprise server is a computer system which performs an essential

service for a large organization. Examples include corporate web servers,

print servers, and databases. A key feature distinguishing an enterprise

server is that even a short-term failure can cost more than purchasing and

installing the system. For example, it may take only a few minutes' down

time at a national stock exchange to justify the expense of entirely

replacing the system with something more reliable."

 

Perhaps that isn't true.

 

 

Mr Foldes has also previously advised that he has a T3 Connection.

 

Detailed/Technical DS3-T3 Definition

http://www.realtimet1search.com/news/article_282.php which mentions:

"Who uses DS-3s? Companies who host high traffic web sites, support web

hosting, and need high capacity bandwidth on an as-needed basis. Also

universities/colleges, government offices, and high volume call centers. A

full DS3 can accommodate many simultaneous users depending on the

requirements of the business. Generally a DS3 line is installed as a major

networking channel for large corporations or universities with high volume

network traffic. This is an always-on, high-speed connection that provides a

dedicated, stable and reliable link to the Internet, and can support up to

500 or more computer users."

 

I still can't help wondering who he really is ............ and what he

actually does.

 

Does anyone reading here know - or care?

 

Surely someone 'out there' must be curious too!

 

--

Guest Peter Foldes
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

LOL David. Does my posting properties suggests otherwise ? Or is it faked according to you.

 

I will ask you very nicely and politely David. Can you stop with your childish and unintelligent postings. Be a man and not a 8 yr old running to mommy and daddy.

 

--

Peter

 

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:uSamAynNJHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

>

> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> has recently said..

>

> "You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully

> loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection"

>

> (his mis-spelling of 'Server')

>

> Wikipedia tells me ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Server )

>

> "An enterprise server is a computer system which performs an essential

> service for a large organization. Examples include corporate web servers,

> print servers, and databases. A key feature distinguishing an enterprise

> server is that even a short-term failure can cost more than purchasing and

> installing the system. For example, it may take only a few minutes' down

> time at a national stock exchange to justify the expense of entirely

> replacing the system with something more reliable."

>

> Perhaps that isn't true.

>

>

> Mr Foldes has also previously advised that he has a T3 Connection.

>

> Detailed/Technical DS3-T3 Definition

> http://www.realtimet1search.com/news/article_282.php which mentions:

> "Who uses DS-3s? Companies who host high traffic web sites, support web

> hosting, and need high capacity bandwidth on an as-needed basis. Also

> universities/colleges, government offices, and high volume call centers. A

> full DS3 can accommodate many simultaneous users depending on the

> requirements of the business. Generally a DS3 line is installed as a major

> networking channel for large corporations or universities with high volume

> network traffic. This is an always-on, high-speed connection that provides a

> dedicated, stable and reliable link to the Internet, and can support up to

> 500 or more computer users."

>

> I still can't help wondering who he really is ............ and what he

> actually does.

>

> Does anyone reading here know - or care?

>

> Surely someone 'out there' must be curious too!

>

> --

>

>

>

>

>

></span>

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:eXm3xKpNJHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

LOL David. Does my posting properties suggests otherwise ? Or is it faked

according to you.

 

--

Peter<span style="color:blue">

></span>

 

Thank you for responding, Peter Foldes (aka Derek Feldman? - hence

registration at Annexcafe as 'Derek'?)

 

I have not suggested the faking of anything. I do not have the skill to know

(as you have told me many times!). However, there may be others here who

may be able to determine if all is not exactly as it should be. You have

made mistakes before!

 

So - here are the full Headers of your two recent messages for others to

look at - and maybe comment upon thereafter: There will be some here who

remember 9/11 ......... and that maybe folk should have asked more questions

beforehand. I seek only the truth. A private email to explain who you are

and what you do, had you sent same nearly three years ago, would have made

posts such as this one, in the public domain, totally unnecessary. It has

been your choice (and right) to remain silent, but this is no game.

 

 

Subject: Re: XP versus Vista?

From: "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>

Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:37:53 -0400

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Andrew and Peter

 

You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully =

loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection

 

 

 

Reply-To: "Peter Foldes" <bounce@bounce>

From: "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>

References:

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<OgZ#cnkNJHA.4088@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

 

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LOL David. Does my posting properties suggests otherwise ? Or is it

faked according to you.

Guest BurfordTJustice
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

Lots of people have servers.

 

People need to be suspicious of only you!

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

news:uSamAynNJHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> has recently said..

 

"You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully

loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection"

Guest Peter Foldes
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

David

 

First of all do not use these forums are not for your personal vendetta arising from dementia. My email is listed as per the Properties and you can send these concerns there not posting it here

 

I as I said it is unfortunate that your son passed away and unfortunately life goes on.

 

Secondly when you reported me to the Police in England that I am a International Terrorist it was not appreciated by me and especially by my family for what we were put through.

They (from England) advised me that I can take you to court for causing my family and myself grief and besides that they also found that you were a very sick individual and the best compromise that they came up with is to ignore you and they also did the same if you have not already noticed.

You have been doing this since you started to post on the newsgroup going back a few years and I have been ignoring you and even being nice when answering you since the inception of this regrettable sickness of yourself

There is more people than me using this computer (Server) . So I ask you again very nicely to stop your witch hunt and get a life.

You are a sick individual and periodically you go off the deep end with this good guy\bad guy personality which I see is starting again.

Yes I am using a Server and Yes I have a T3 connection along with a LAN when not using it also for which my business pays an incredible amount per month for rental of that service.

I hope that answers your curiosity

Dave

Put an end to your witch-hunt about everybody and go and enjoy your life on your Longboat with your Family

 

 

 

--

Peter

 

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Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:u2cXwzpNJHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

>

> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:eXm3xKpNJHA.3640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> LOL David. Does my posting properties suggests otherwise ? Or is it faked

> according to you.

>

> --

> Peter<span style="color:green">

>></span>

>

> Thank you for responding, Peter Foldes (aka Derek Feldman? - hence

> registration at Annexcafe as 'Derek'?)

>

> I have not suggested the faking of anything. I do not have the skill to know

> (as you have told me many times!). However, there may be others here who

> may be able to determine if all is not exactly as it should be. You have

> made mistakes before!

>

> So - here are the full Headers of your two recent messages for others to

> look at - and maybe comment upon thereafter: There will be some here who

> remember 9/11 ......... and that maybe folk should have asked more questions

> beforehand. I seek only the truth. A private email to explain who you are

> and what you do, had you sent same nearly three years ago, would have made

> posts such as this one, in the public domain, totally unnecessary. It has

> been your choice (and right) to remain silent, but this is no game.

>

>

> Subject: Re: XP versus Vista?

> From: "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>

> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:37:53 -0400

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>

> Andrew and Peter

>

> You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully =

> loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection

>

>

>

> Reply-To: "Peter Foldes" <bounce@bounce>

> From: "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com>

> References:

> <70a49c31-6e12-4994-8511-8de78c062ded@v22g2000pro.googlegroups.com>

> <OgZ#cnkNJHA.4088@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>

>

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>

> LOL David. Does my posting properties suggests otherwise ? Or is it

> faked according to you.

>

>

></span>

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

I don't care one whit. Lots of us run servers for fun or business.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:uSamAynNJHA.588@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> has recently said..

 

"You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully

loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection"

 

(his mis-spelling of 'Server')

 

Wikipedia tells me ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Server )

 

"An enterprise server is a computer system which performs an essential

service for a large organization. Examples include corporate web servers,

print servers, and databases. A key feature distinguishing an enterprise

server is that even a short-term failure can cost more than purchasing and

installing the system. For example, it may take only a few minutes' down

time at a national stock exchange to justify the expense of entirely

replacing the system with something more reliable."

 

Perhaps that isn't true.

 

 

Mr Foldes has also previously advised that he has a T3 Connection.

 

Detailed/Technical DS3-T3 Definition

http://www.realtimet1search.com/news/article_282.php which mentions:

"Who uses DS-3s? Companies who host high traffic web sites, support web

hosting, and need high capacity bandwidth on an as-needed basis. Also

universities/colleges, government offices, and high volume call centers. A

full DS3 can accommodate many simultaneous users depending on the

requirements of the business. Generally a DS3 line is installed as a major

networking channel for large corporations or universities with high volume

network traffic. This is an always-on, high-speed connection that provides a

dedicated, stable and reliable link to the Internet, and can support up to

500 or more computer users."

 

I still can't help wondering who he really is ............ and what he

actually does.

 

Does anyone reading here know - or care?

 

Surely someone 'out there' must be curious too!

 

--

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"Jonas" <jonas@noemail.nit> wrote in message

news:eUQfnXsNJHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

I don't care one whit. Lots of us run servers for fun or business.

 

Hello Jonas style_emoticons/

 

I apologise if I have mis-understood matters. Here at Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing) you will note this:-

 

This article needs additional citations for verification.

Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced

material may be challenged and removed. (July 2008)

 

 

 

With your expertise in these matters, perhaps you can help improve the

article - try, at the very least. <s>

 

AFAIK an Enterprise Server is rather different, as described in my

original post, thus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_server

 

Thanks for responding!

 

Dave

 

--

Guest Alun Jones
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

news:OkMxRlsNJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> With your expertise in these matters, perhaps you can help improve the

> article - try, at the very least. <s></span>

 

Lots of us would rather spend our time helping in other areas than updating

Wikipedia. Whatever floats your boat, of course, but don't view Wikipedia as

either a definitive source of complete and accurate information, or a

mandatory social welfare project that we should all be engaging in.

<span style="color:blue">

> AFAIK an Enterprise Server is rather different, as described in my

> original post, thus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_server</span>

 

While it pains me to point you to Wikipedia just after I've finished telling

you that you shouldn't rely on it being accurate, might I point this out to

you:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Serve...erprise_Edition

 

This is most likely what was being referred to as "Windows 2003 Enterprise

Server". As has been pointed out, there are many of us who have computer and

network setups that are non-traditional. I have a domain of ten computers

used by three people, for instance. Some of those are Enterprise Servers in

the sense that they run serious enterprise-level code, rather than

small-business quality code. (The difference comes when you ask "how well

does it perform with umpty thousand

users/systems/locations/applications/etc?") Small software vendors selling

into large institutions frequently have to mimic Enterprise-like scenarios

in their small environments.

 

Finally, I know a lot of the people in this group have said this to you far

more rudely than I will, but here's my advice: you are clearly a beginner in

this field. You are asking so many questions, and getting so many things

wrong in your assumptions, that it's very clear that you are a beginner.

 

As such, use a little humility, and make your postings more inquisitive than

accusative. Ask questions - don't assert that others are wrong just because

they disagree with you. Ask _why_ they disagree with you or with your

understanding of the world. You don't know enough to be quoting Wikipedia

back at people trying to prove that they're lying. All you do is make people

irritated with you.

 

And that's not helpful when you come to ask for help.

 

Alun.

~~~~

--

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23921 57th Ave SE | Blog: http://msmvps.com/alunj/

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Guest VanguardLH
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

~BD~ wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> has recently said..

>

> "You should see my W2K3 Enterprise Sever boot. From cold boot to fully

> loaded Desktop 46 seconds including LAN connection"

> (his mis-spelling of 'Server')</span>

 

Without knowing what hardware he uses (which could be a hell of lot

faster than yours) and without knowing what he loads on Windows startup

(which could be a hell of lot less than you), that is not an

unreasonable boot time. Hell, maybe he isn't even loading the desktop

GUI and prefers a command-line interface.

<span style="color:blue">

> Wikipedia tells me ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_Server )

>

> "An enterprise server is a computer system which performs an essential

> service for a large organization. Examples include corporate web servers,

> print servers, and databases. </span>

 

None of which must be running or even installed. "Server" is part of

the product name, not necessarily how it is used. Hell, even developers

will run server versions of an OS to test their code but that doesn't

mean they are using the server OS as a server to anyone else.

<span style="color:blue">

> Mr Foldes has also previously advised that he has a T3 Connection.</span>

 

Often users will wrongly equate their company's property as their own

property.

 

T3 (DS-3): 44.736 million bits per second

 

Well, that depends entirely on what service level you pay for. Just

because YOU choose to pay for lower bandwidth doesn't mean something

richer than you must also be just as slow.

<span style="color:blue">

> I still can't help wondering who he really is ............ and what he

> actually does.

> Does anyone reading here know - or care?

> Surely someone 'out there' must be curious too!</span>

 

So now you're targeting yet another regular netizen. What's the point?

Why do you even care about what someone claims they do or don't have?

 

So who's your next target of your ennui?

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"Alun Jones" <alun@texis.invalid> wrote in message

news:D6A4A2D9-D7ED-42F5-B3F6-80DABDDC7C2D@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue">

> "~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

> news:OkMxRlsNJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>> With your expertise in these matters, perhaps you can help improve the

>> article - try, at the very least. <s></span>

>

> Lots of us would rather spend our time helping in other areas than

> updating Wikipedia. Whatever floats your boat, of course, but don't view

> Wikipedia as either a definitive source of complete and accurate

> information, or a mandatory social welfare project that we should all be

> engaging in.

><span style="color:green">

>> AFAIK an Enterprise Server is rather different, as described in my

>> original post, thus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_server</span>

>

> While it pains me to point you to Wikipedia just after I've finished

> telling you that you shouldn't rely on it being accurate, might I point

> this out to you:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Serve...erprise_Edition

>

> This is most likely what was being referred to as "Windows 2003 Enterprise

> Server". As has been pointed out, there are many of us who have computer

> and network setups that are non-traditional. I have a domain of ten

> computers used by three people, for instance. Some of those are Enterprise

> Servers in the sense that they run serious enterprise-level code, rather

> than small-business quality code. (The difference comes when you ask "how

> well does it perform with umpty thousand

> users/systems/locations/applications/etc?") Small software vendors selling

> into large institutions frequently have to mimic Enterprise-like scenarios

> in their small environments.

>

> Finally, I know a lot of the people in this group have said this to you

> far more rudely than I will, but here's my advice: you are clearly a

> beginner in this field. You are asking so many questions, and getting so

> many things wrong in your assumptions, that it's very clear that you are a

> beginner.

>

> As such, use a little humility, and make your postings more inquisitive

> than accusative. Ask questions - don't assert that others are wrong just

> because they disagree with you. Ask _why_ they disagree with you or with

> your understanding of the world. You don't know enough to be quoting

> Wikipedia back at people trying to prove that they're lying. All you do is

> make people irritated with you.

>

> And that's not helpful when you come to ask for help.

>

> Alun.

> ~~~~

> --

> Texas Imperial Software | Web: http://www.wftpd.com/

> 23921 57th Ave SE | Blog: http://msmvps.com/alunj/

> Woodinville WA 98072-8661 | WFTPD, WFTPD Pro are Windows FTP servers.

> Fax/Voice +1(425)807-1787 | Try our NEW client software, WFTPD Explorer.

>

></span>

 

Alun - many thanks for taking the time and so much trouble to respond here.

I really appreciate you input.

 

Your web site says:-

"Alun Jones, the author of WFTPD Server and WFTPD Pro Server, has been

programming and developing software since his early teens. He now has over

20 years experience in the IT industry, 13 years as a TCP/IP Winsock

developer. Alun is a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) and has helped

to review and author a number of RFCs. Alun was recognized by Microsoft in

April of 2003 as a "Most Valuable Professional", for his repeated volunteer

assistance in Usenet newsgroups devoted to Windows developers, mostly in

TCP/IP development using Winsock. Alun's MVP award is in the dual areas of

Windows SDK and Security, as a result of his SSL / TLS knowledge and his

overall advocacy of good development security principles. Since then, Alun

has twice been re-awarded as a Microsoft MVP in the Windows Security area,

and is currently a Microsoft MVP."

 

I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to doubt that is true.

 

Perhaps you can point me in the right direction to ascertain the true

credentials of Mr Foldes?

 

TIA

 

Dave

 

--

Guest Larry Thomas
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

He has been vetted many times and is who he says he is. Move on.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:eHICs$tNJHA.1744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

 

"Alun Jones" <alun@texis.invalid> wrote in message

news:D6A4A2D9-D7ED-42F5-B3F6-80DABDDC7C2D@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue">

> "~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

> news:OkMxRlsNJHA.3804@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>> With your expertise in these matters, perhaps you can help improve the

>> article - try, at the very least. <s></span>

>

> Lots of us would rather spend our time helping in other areas than

> updating Wikipedia. Whatever floats your boat, of course, but don't view

> Wikipedia as either a definitive source of complete and accurate

> information, or a mandatory social welfare project that we should all be

> engaging in.

><span style="color:green">

>> AFAIK an Enterprise Server is rather different, as described in my

>> original post, thus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprise_server</span>

>

> While it pains me to point you to Wikipedia just after I've finished

> telling you that you shouldn't rely on it being accurate, might I point

> this out to you:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Serve...erprise_Edition

>

> This is most likely what was being referred to as "Windows 2003 Enterprise

> Server". As has been pointed out, there are many of us who have computer

> and network setups that are non-traditional. I have a domain of ten

> computers used by three people, for instance. Some of those are Enterprise

> Servers in the sense that they run serious enterprise-level code, rather

> than small-business quality code. (The difference comes when you ask "how

> well does it perform with umpty thousand

> users/systems/locations/applications/etc?") Small software vendors selling

> into large institutions frequently have to mimic Enterprise-like scenarios

> in their small environments.

>

> Finally, I know a lot of the people in this group have said this to you

> far more rudely than I will, but here's my advice: you are clearly a

> beginner in this field. You are asking so many questions, and getting so

> many things wrong in your assumptions, that it's very clear that you are a

> beginner.

>

> As such, use a little humility, and make your postings more inquisitive

> than accusative. Ask questions - don't assert that others are wrong just

> because they disagree with you. Ask _why_ they disagree with you or with

> your understanding of the world. You don't know enough to be quoting

> Wikipedia back at people trying to prove that they're lying. All you do is

> make people irritated with you.

>

> And that's not helpful when you come to ask for help.

>

> Alun.

> ~~~~

> --

> Texas Imperial Software | Web: http://www.wftpd.com/

> 23921 57th Ave SE | Blog: http://msmvps.com/alunj/

> Woodinville WA 98072-8661 | WFTPD, WFTPD Pro are Windows FTP servers.

> Fax/Voice +1(425)807-1787 | Try our NEW client software, WFTPD Explorer.

>

></span>

 

Alun - many thanks for taking the time and so much trouble to respond here.

I really appreciate you input.

 

Your web site says:-

"Alun Jones, the author of WFTPD Server and WFTPD Pro Server, has been

programming and developing software since his early teens. He now has over

20 years experience in the IT industry, 13 years as a TCP/IP Winsock

developer. Alun is a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) and has helped

to review and author a number of RFCs. Alun was recognized by Microsoft in

April of 2003 as a "Most Valuable Professional", for his repeated volunteer

assistance in Usenet newsgroups devoted to Windows developers, mostly in

TCP/IP development using Winsock. Alun's MVP award is in the dual areas of

Windows SDK and Security, as a result of his SSL / TLS knowledge and his

overall advocacy of good development security principles. Since then, Alun

has twice been re-awarded as a Microsoft MVP in the Windows Security area,

and is currently a Microsoft MVP."

 

I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to doubt that is true.

 

Perhaps you can point me in the right direction to ascertain the true

credentials of Mr Foldes?

 

TIA

 

Dave

 

--

Guest Larry Thomas
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

Better yet give us your credentials.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:eHICs$tNJHA.1744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

 

 

 

Perhaps you can point me in the right direction to ascertain the true

credentials of Mr Foldes?

 

TIA

 

Dave

 

--

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

news:gdvugc$dsg$1@registered.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue">

> ~BD~ wrote:

> So now you're targeting yet another regular netizen. What's the point?

> Why do you even care about what someone claims they do or don't have?

>

> So who's your next target of your ennui?</span>

 

 

 

Not bored - concerned. I'm very disappointed with your response, VanguardLH.

 

I haven't told you the full background, nor will I here. I can tell you

that this 'regular netizen', as you call him, has consistently lied when

posting on these Microsoft groups and, indeed, on the Annexcafe newsgroups

too. I fully appreciate that only I can be sure of that - others will have

to make up their own minds.

 

Two things are of concern to me.

 

1. Cybercrime

 

2. Terrorism

 

One, of course, can feed the other. Mr Foldes, by his own admission, is a

foreign national now living in Canada. 'He' and/or his companions answer

every computing query under-the-sun at just about any time of the day or

night. He appears to use highly sophisticated equipment too, yet no-one

knows anything about him or his business - there's not even a web site to

enlighten us. Strange, I think, in 2008.

 

Perhaps the explanation/statement he has made 'here' in these groups today

(much of it untrue, BTW) will put your mind at ease. There is obviously no

need to worry about the safety of your friends and family ........ is there?

 

Dave

 

--

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"Larry Thomas" <l_thom@nomail.ney.niy> wrote in message

news:%23TJc4GuNJHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

He has been vetted many times and is who he says he is. Move on.

 

I didn't know that!

 

WHY has Mr Foldes been vetted many times - and by whom?

 

Just how do you know that, Larry?

 

TIA

 

Dave

 

--

Guest PA Bear [MS MVP]
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

cf.

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=...dave+%2B+banned

 

Larry Thomas wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> Better yet give us your credentials.

>

> "~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

> news:eHICs$tNJHA.1744@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

>

>

> Perhaps you can point me in the right direction to ascertain the true

> credentials of Mr Foldes?

>

> TIA

>

> Dave </span>

Guest BurfordTJustice
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

Seems you to have been vetted, so to speak.

 

http://www.interpol.int/

 

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message

news:u8NF0WuNJHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

 

"Larry Thomas" <l_thom@nomail.ney.niy> wrote in message

news:%23TJc4GuNJHA.4832@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

He has been vetted many times and is who he says he is. Move on.

 

I didn't know that!

 

WHY has Mr Foldes been vetted many times - and by whom?

 

Just how do you know that, Larry?

 

TIA

 

Dave

 

--

Guest David H. Lipman
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

From: "~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com>

 

 

 

 

| Perhaps you can point me in the right direction to ascertain the true

| credentials of Mr Foldes?

 

It is none of you f'n business !

 

Now stop chnaging the name of the thread and hijacking the threads you enter !

 

--

Dave

http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html

Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:13:36 -0400, Peter Foldes wrote:

 

<snip>

 

And why on earth you (and anybody else for this matter) keep continuing

responding to this screwball? There is absolutely no reason to do so! Is it

so difficult for you to ignore posts originating from this idiot-person?

Whatever you want to achieve...you won't!

(No response required!)

Guest Peter Foldes
Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

You friggin idiot. I was 4 yrs old when my family was liberated and was brought to the USA from Dachau by the liberating forces in 1946.

It was enough Dave that what you did by reporting me as a terrorist to the Police in the UK. My home and my family was invaded by Canadian and US security forces on account of that and made it very uncomfortable for 3 hrs before it was realized that you made a false claim.

I have no idea what others would have done to you but I think I was and still is civilized enough that I still hold my patience and my tongue with you.

You caught me on a bad weekend and as it now winds down so will I

 

Again. Go on your boat and get a life you sick demented person

 

--

Peter

 

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others

Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

 

"~BD~" <~BD~@no.mail.afraid.com> wrote in message news:%23j1Z%23SuNJHA.1484@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

>

> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message

> news:gdvugc$dsg$1@registered.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green">

>> ~BD~ wrote:

>> So now you're targeting yet another regular netizen. What's the point?

>> Why do you even care about what someone claims they do or don't have?

>>

>> So who's your next target of your ennui?</span>

>

>

>

> Not bored - concerned. I'm very disappointed with your response, VanguardLH.

>

> I haven't told you the full background, nor will I here. I can tell you

> that this 'regular netizen', as you call him, has consistently lied when

> posting on these Microsoft groups and, indeed, on the Annexcafe newsgroups

> too. I fully appreciate that only I can be sure of that - others will have

> to make up their own minds.

>

> Two things are of concern to me.

>

> 1. Cybercrime

>

> 2. Terrorism

>

> One, of course, can feed the other. Mr Foldes, by his own admission, is a

> foreign national now living in Canada. 'He' and/or his companions answer

> every computing query under-the-sun at just about any time of the day or

> night. He appears to use highly sophisticated equipment too, yet no-one

> knows anything about him or his business - there's not even a web site to

> enlighten us. Strange, I think, in 2008.

>

> Perhaps the explanation/statement he has made 'here' in these groups today

> (much of it untrue, BTW) will put your mind at ease. There is obviously no

> need to worry about the safety of your friends and family ........ is there?

>

> Dave

>

> --

>

></span>

Posted

Re: Should we be suspicious?

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:uSVGYUwNJHA.1668@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> I was 4 yrs old when my family was liberated and was brought to the USA

> from Dachau by the liberating forces in 1946.</span>

 

Are you refering to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp which starts off:-

 

"Dachau was a Nazi German concentration camp, and the first one opened in

Germany,......" or were you simply refering to the nearby town of that

name?

 

<span style="color:blue">

>It was enough Dave that what you did by reporting me as a terrorist to the

>Police in the UK. My home and my family was invaded by Canadian and US <span style="color:green">

> >security forces on account of that and made it very uncomfortable for 3 </span>

>hrs</span>

 

I'm both pleased and amazed that I had so much influence. Maybe. though,

this is another of your fairy stories, Peter!

..<span style="color:blue">

>You caught me on a bad weekend ....</span>

 

As I've mentioned before, bad guys always make mistakes.

 

The truth will out!

 

Dave

 

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