Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 26, 2008 Posted October 26, 2008 Everytime I start, Windows Defender says Failed to intialize 0x800106ba A problem caused this program's service to stop. To start service, restart or search help and suppot to start it mannually What is this 0x800106ba? Is it important?:shock: Restart does not solve this. Could anyone tell me how to fix it? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 26, 2008 Posted October 26, 2008 Hi tomoedinburgh , this may be useful 'Error message when you run Windows Defender: "Error Code 0x800106ba"' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931849) Hope it helps SIW2 -- SIW2 Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Hi SIW2 thank you, I remember you. You helped me previously. Well, i visited the site and tried all three there. I could not uninstall the defender. it was not in the "program" but I installed successfully the latest version of WD from the site. However, this did not solve the problem. I typed in the patches in the option three. Some went in some came back saying "problem 0x800106..." Still, each time I restart, WD says "cannot initialize 0x800" The voice of HAL says "Sorry, I cannnot do it".... I dont know what more I can do with this... -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 Hi, Always worth checking for malware, you may like to download and scan with the free 'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org). Suggest you try a system restore to a point before Defender stopped working http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76905-sy...estore-how.html If you are still having problems, run a system file check http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/66978-sy...fc-command.html and if necessary, do a repair install ( you need the proper Microsoft installation dvd to do this ) http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-re...tall-vista.html If you could also add your system specs. that would be useful - go to User CP at the top left of this page to add them. Hope it helps SIW2 -- SIW2 Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted October 27, 2008 Posted October 27, 2008 0x800106ba RPC_S_Server_Unavailable This is a BITS or COM related issue. Have you diabled any services ? Is KB939159 installed ? Is Vista SP1 installed ? What is the installed security software [antivirus/security suite/etc] ? BTW, you can NOT uninstall WD in Vista, you can only disable the Service that it's dependent upon thereby stopping WD from functioning. MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009] =============== -343- FDNY Never Forgotten =============== tomoedinburgh wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Hi SIW2 > > thank you, I remember you. You helped me previously. > Well, i visited the site and tried all three there. > I could not uninstall the defender. it was not in the "program" > but I installed successfully the latest version of WD from the site. > However, this did not solve the problem. > > I typed in the patches in the option three. Some went in > some came back saying "problem 0x800106..." > > Still, each time I restart, WD says "cannot initialize 0x800" > > The voice of HAL says "Sorry, I cannnot do it".... > I dont know what more I can do with this... > > </span> Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Hi many thanks for the suggestions I deleted some files which I believed were just duplicates and I am afraind I did something wrong there.. just a guess but they coincide. No, I have not took in SVP1. I read reviews and pretty much convinced that it is more trouble than it is worth. But do you think downloading the service pack solve this problem? Could you possibly tell me how serious having this 0x800106 malfunctioning? Is it in anyway putting my PC in danger? Or is it just a nuisance? Let me get back to later with this upfate K something... -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Hi tomoedinburgh, Defender is a pretty important thing to have running - did you try a system restore to a point before the problem ? http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76905-sy...estore-how.html It is also also a good idea to have SP1 installed. Hope this helps SIW2 -- SIW2 Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Hi again I regulary delete Shadow Copy and do registory Cleaning. Can I still restore the system to a few weeks back? I also worry if I do this system restore I would lose change I made and softwares I downloaded since. How does the system restore affect PC? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 Hi tomo..., You probably don't have restore points going back weeks. If you have the proper MS installation dvd , you do a repair install which will replace replace all the Vista files , but should not affect your data and programs. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-re...tall-vista.html If you have some ghastly "recovery" disc from the manufacturer - it probably only allows you to put the system back to how it was when you got your machine. You would need to transfer all your stuff to an external hd first and then back after and reinstall all your programs. It would help if you Click User CP at the top left of this page and input your system specs. Hope it helps SIW2 -- SIW2 Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 > If you have some ghastly "recovery" disc from the manufacturer - it<span style="color:blue"> > probably only allows you to put the system back to how it was when you > got your machine.</span> Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as new" condition. When using either process, it is best to read the documentation to see what will actually be done. Misuse of terms is rampant because nobody cares about language anymore. <span style="color:blue"> > You would need to transfer all your stuff to an > external hd first and then back after and reinstall all your programs.</span> Yes, a real PITA. <span style="color:blue"> > It would help if you Click User CP at the top left of this page and > input your system specs. > > Hope it helps</span> I can't see what you refer to. I click and I click anyway and nothing seems to happen. Quote
Guest The Max Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:13 -0400, "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the >difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is >meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies >the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore >is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as >new" condition.</span> Sorry, but that's the reverse of normal usage in both XP and Vista. Recovery is reserved for talking about using a "recovery disc" to return a computer to out-of-the-box - or "as new" - condition. Restore is reserved for talking about using the System Restore utility to return the system to a state previous to an unfortunate event, without going all the way back to "as new" condition. -- Max Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted October 28, 2008 Posted October 28, 2008 "The Max" <max.imus@geemail.com> wrote in message news:9qmeg4118gi7n2gqg7c4vuvuimqmco3mib@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:13 -0400, "FromTheRafters" > <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>Just picking some nits - it is often misunderstood what the >>difference is between restore and recovery. Recovery is >>meant to recover from some unfortunate thing. It implies >>the end state is as it was just before the incident. Restore >>is the one that gets you the sometimes less desireable "as >>new" condition.</span> > > Sorry, but that's the reverse of normal usage in both XP and Vista. > > Recovery is reserved for talking about using a "recovery disc" to > return a computer to out-of-the-box - or "as new" - condition. > > Restore is reserved for talking about using the System Restore utility > to return the system to a state previous to an unfortunate event, > without going all the way back to "as new" condition.</span> Yeah, I'm sorry too. Microsoft didn't actually get it wrong when they named the restore facility, it does get you back to a previous "as new" state for the things under its purview. If they called it system recovery people should expect it to do a lot more than it does. http://www.restoredisks.com/ Restore is OS independent. Recovery would require some backup plan or at the very least some knowledge of the OS and user data that needs the recovering. Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 dear mow green I checked my updates and i dont think I have KB939... the one you mentioned. What sort of update is this? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 29, 2008 Posted October 29, 2008 dear S1W2 About SP1. It says you need 4.5G free space to install. Does this mean SP1 occupy that amount of HD once installed? Or you need that to install but the pack does not take up that much? Do you know how much space SP1 take up? I read reviews and they say the improvememts are marginal. They are like, "well, it does not hurt" sort of reception. Could you tell me how one can beneft from downloading SP1, apart from having a piece of mind, so to speak? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Hi, This is what Mow was referring to 'An update to prevent a Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) crash on a Windows Vista-based computer' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/939159) Sp1 doesn't take up 4.5 gb and here is some idea of what it's for http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_sp1.asp Hope that helps SIW2 -- SIW2 Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Hi SIW2 Thanks for the advice. I am giving SP1 a serious thought. The problem with my PC now is the Explorer. It very easily freezes and gets glazed over and says "Explorer is not responding". It was not like this before, but I am not sure if it was anything to do with the Windows Dedender giving me this "Error 0x800106" sign. (In fact, Security says Defender is on and working, but when I click the icon or every time I restart it tells me about the error) Do you think SP1 might solve this problem? BTW, I could not install the BK939.... that MowGreen suggested. It came back saying "it does not apply to your PC" -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 Problem solved! Well, sort of. Dear SIW2 Im happy to tell you I got rid of the error message. I installed this update that finishes with 099 (consequently i joined something called Spynet club, considering the time i wasted solving this error problem it was a hef entrance fee, but im glad now). Thank you very much for your help! However, this problem with the Explorer persists. So, do you think SP1 helps this crash problem?? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest MowGreen [MVP] Posted October 30, 2008 Posted October 30, 2008 tomoedinburgh wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > dear mow green > > I checked my updates and i dont think I have KB939... the one you > mentioned. What sort of update is this? > > > I regulary delete Shadow Copy and do registory Cleaning.</span> 'Cleaning' the registry is the most likely cause of this issue. If you used an automated tool, then restore it's backup. If you did it manually, then you should have exported the reg key/subkey prior to 'cleaning' it. Cleaning the registry only needs to be done to ensure malware is not loading from it. Otherwise it's gun + shoe = ouch !!! Did you download the version of KB939159 meant for your system ? There are 2 versions, x86 and x64, linked from the KB article. I repeat: What is the installed security software [antivirus/security suite/etc] ? MowGreen [MVP 2003-2009] =============== -343- FDNY Never Forgotten =============== Quote
Guest tomoedinburgh Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Hiya I always have the windows Defender and Wall on naturally. But I also have this software called Spyware Terminator which I chose randamly by googling. It works but I have no idea how or if it is effective. I have never read a review on this software. One thing I dont like about this software is the full scan takes 3 hours to complete. I have never got virus if I trust what all those softwares say. Do you think I should get something else to defend my PC? -- tomoedinburgh Quote
Guest SIW2 Posted October 31, 2008 Posted October 31, 2008 Hi tomo, Don't know much about Spyware Terminator , but I wouldn't have the patience for such a long scan. You really need an antivirus app. Avast free home edition is liked by a lot of members here, you might try that instead. It helps guard against malware and rootkits too. Read the help section to set it up how you want. You probably don't need the Vrdbs function, if so, right click the ball on the left in the notification area, and select disable , then merge with main icon. 'FREE antivirus software for Windows with anti-spyware - avast! Home Edition' (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html) Ccleaner is another free app. that helps reduce the clutter on your pc and remove unpleasant cookies - again check out the help file to set up how you want ( uncheck the Windows Defender option under the Applications tab ) 'CCleaner - Downloading Slim...' (http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds/downloading-slim) I use McAfee site Advisor, which attaches to your web browser and warns you if it thinks a site is dangerous - it's free from 'Protection from Adware, Spam, Viruses, Online Scams | McAfee SiteAdvisor' (http://www.siteadvisor.com/) You might also try The Vista Firewall Control , free from 'Vista Firewall Control : Sphinx Software' (http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html) Once it is trained , it provides some protection against outbound connections, and also reduced my start up time by a few seconds. Hope this helps SIW2 If you suspect something may have got past Avast and Defender, then scan with this free app. 'Malwarebytes.org' (http://www.malwarebytes.org) -- SIW2 Quote
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