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Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently

with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if

you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was

clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it

cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

after that the hijacking thing was gone.

So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

Are these likely to conflict with each other?

Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Thanks

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Amanda B

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Amanda <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

>So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer? </span>

 

Obviously - since it took all 3 to fix your system - yes. It's always

good to use a few, rather than one or two.

 

You can add Malwarebytes to the list. Also Spybot Search and Destroy.

 

Personally, I've lost faith in AdAware. It finds a lot of benevolent

"tracking cookies", and I find that annoying.

Guest Ken Blake
Posted

"Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:DC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...

<span style="color:blue">

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan

> frequently

> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do

> if

> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I

> was

> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan

> it

> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

> after that the hijacking thing was gone.

> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

> Are these likely to conflict with each other?

> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

> Any thoughts appreciated.</span>

 

 

No anti-spyware program is anywhere near 100% effective, and using two or

more is exactly what you should do.

 

Yes, AdAware is a good choice, as long as you don't rely on it alone.

Guest FromTheRafters
Posted

Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.

 

Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it

is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"

applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these

applications is recommended to run at any given time. There

are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any

conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be

used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.

 

Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know

that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really

determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they

didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.

 

"Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

news:DC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue">

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan

> frequently

> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do

> if

> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I

> was

> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan

> it

> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

> after that the hijacking thing was gone.

> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

> Are these likely to conflict with each other?

> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

> Any thoughts appreciated.

> Thanks

> --

> Amanda B </span>

Posted

OK, well 3 opinions now that pretty much told me what I had thought. I

realize now that there are plenty of posts here already about this, I could

have searched further to find them, and I should have. Thanks for answering!

--

Amanda B

 

 

"FromTheRafters" wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

> Yes, it is a good addition to your stated (commendable) setup.

>

> Many people will probably recommend others as well, and it

> is generally only "on-access" detectors and "personal firewall"

> applications that create conflict - so only one of each of these

> applications is recommended to run at any given time. There

> are other methods of "active" detection which don't create any

> conflicts, so some types of active anti-malware scanners can be

> used alongside the active "on-access" type for additional safety.

>

> Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know

> that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really

> determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they

> didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.

>

> "Amanda" <Amanda@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

> news:DC3ECE1E-E704-4FC9-844D-2554621E70EE@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green">

> > Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

> > I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan

> > frequently

> > with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

> > AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do

> > if

> > you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

> > kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I

> > was

> > clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan

> > it

> > cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

> > after that the hijacking thing was gone.

> > So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

> > Are these likely to conflict with each other?

> > Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

> > forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

> > Any thoughts appreciated.

> > Thanks

> > --

> > Amanda B </span>

>

>

> </span>

Posted

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 10:42:15 -0500, FromTheRafters wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

> Some will call it only semantics, but I believe it is helpful to know

> that these scanners (despite the wording they use) can never really

> determine that your system is clean. They can only indicate that they

> didn't find anything - which is hardly the same thing.</span>

 

Quite right! No scanning application can indicate/confirm "system is

clean".

"The only way to clean a compromised system is to flatten and rebuild."

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community...gmt/sm0504.mspx

Guest phoenix_abhi
Posted

Spyware terminator is better than adware. Always use 2 or more anti

spyware solutions. Windows defender is good one. But no adware blocking

or not effective.

 

I have Webroot spysweeper, A squared (Thanx to WVC for both) and KIS9

with WIN Defender. No attcak

 

 

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Guest Neil Jones
Posted

Amanda wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently

> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if

> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was

> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it

> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

> after that the hijacking thing was gone.

> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

> Are these likely to conflict with each other?

> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

> Any thoughts appreciated.

> Thanks</span>

 

 

I use the following:

 

Spybot Search & Destroy

ThreatFire

Super Anti-Spyware

Glary Utilities

Malwarebytes

 

All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender.

 

You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my

system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above

scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware

about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore

from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I

would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a

nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a

good backup of your entire computer.

 

HTH. Good luck.

 

NJ

Guest The Max
Posted

On Sun, 9 Nov 2008 13:49:56 +0530, phoenix_abhi

<phoenix_abhi.3iln1v@winvistaclub.com> wrote:

<span style="color:blue">

>Spyware terminator is better than adware.</span>

 

Never heard of it.

 

--

Max

Guest Hank Arnold (MVP)
Posted

Neil Jones wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> Amanda wrote:<span style="color:green">

>> Hi, I have a general question about spyware sorts of infections.

>> I have AVG Internet Security full version, and I also run a scan frequently

>> with Windows defender. Both say they are looking for spyware, although the

>> AVG website doesn't seem to have any specific instructions for what to do if

>> you get one. Recently I somehow got a hijacking sort of infection, which

>> kept re-directing my homepage somewhre else. AVG & defender both said I was

>> clean. I downloaded a free version of AdAware, and after running that scan it

>> cleaned 2 of what it called major threats, and 30 or so not so major, and

>> after that the hijacking thing was gone.

>> So, do I need to have all 3 of these scans to keep safer?

>> Are these likely to conflict with each other?

>> Is AdAware a good choice? I asume it is safe, as I have seen it on this

>> forum sometimes as a recommendation, but had no need of it before now.

>> Any thoughts appreciated.

>> Thanks</span>

>

>

> I use the following:

>

> Spybot Search & Destroy

> ThreatFire

> Super Anti-Spyware

> Glary Utilities

> Malwarebytes

>

> All the above work with the Avast AV and Windows Defender.

>

> You would think that my system must be super secure. Once in a while my

> system will download a new spyware (from a website) which all the above

> scanners (with all updates being always current) are still not aware

> about the new strain of spyware. That is when I do complete restore

> from the backup. It is happening a little bit more frequently than I

> would like. So far this year I had to rebuild the laptop 3 times. In a

> nutshell, use a good set of anti spyware programs but also maintain a

> good backup of your entire computer.

>

> HTH. Good luck.

>

> NJ</span>

 

What are you using as a firewall?? Sounds like it's not doing it's job....

 

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Regards,

Hank Arnold

Microsoft MVP

Windows Server - Directory Services

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