Guest Neil Jones Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 I have been using Eraser software which overwrites the file with random data several times to make it unrecoverable. Recently, I have attended the Forensics class offered by SANS. When it came to the topic of metadata, some of the classmates mentioned that Eraser works only at the application level. This confused me a bit. My question now is, does Eraser delete the data and metadata as well? If not, then how do you delete metadata? How do you cleanup the metadata at the file system level? I use Eraser on Vista and Linux. Thank you in advance. NJ Quote
Guest Lew Pitcher Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 On December 2, 2008 06:19, in comp.os.linux.security, Neil Jones (castellan2004-nschap@remove-this.yahoo.com) wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I have been using Eraser software which overwrites the file with random > data several times to make it unrecoverable. Recently, I have attended > the Forensics class offered by SANS. When it came to the topic of > metadata, some of the classmates mentioned that Eraser works only at the > application level. This confused me a bit. > > My question now is, does Eraser delete the data and metadata as well?</span> What do you mean by "metadata"? (I know what /I/ mean, and it is crucial that you first have an idea of what "metadata" consists of before you ask whether or not Eraser deletes it.) <span style="color:blue"> > If not, then how do you delete metadata?</span> It depends on the metadata. For filesystem-related metadata (such as permission bits, access timestamps, data locations on disk, etc.) you /delete/ the file (remove its entry from the directory and free it's inode) at a minimum. You may also want to manipulate the inode table so that the inode is completely blanked out, or at least immediately reused, and you may want to manipulate any affected directories so that the directory entry is blanked out or immediately reused. For other sorts of metadata (what sorts could there be?), you need to take other steps. <span style="color:blue"> > How do you cleanup the metadata at the file system level? > I use Eraser on Vista and Linux. </span> For the proper answers to these and other "Eraser"-related questions, you really should contact the vendor of the "Eraser" package. That looks like support@east-tec.com to me. -- Lew Pitcher Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576 http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | GPG public key available by request ---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------ Quote
Guest Tim Greer Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Neil Jones wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I have been using Eraser software which overwrites the file with > random > data several times to make it unrecoverable. Recently, I have > attended > the Forensics class offered by SANS. When it came to the topic of > metadata, some of the classmates mentioned that Eraser works only at > the > application level. This confused me a bit. > > My question now is, does Eraser delete the data and metadata as well? > If not, then how do you delete metadata? How do you cleanup the > metadata at the file system level? I use Eraser on Vista and Linux. > > Thank you in advance. > > NJ</span> I've never used (or heard of) it, but on Linux check out the shred command. -- Tim Greer, CEO/Founder/CTO, BurlyHost.com, Inc. Shared Hosting, Reseller Hosting, Dedicated & Semi-Dedicated servers and Custom Hosting. 24/7 support, 30 day guarantee, secure servers. Industry's most experienced staff! -- Web Hosting With Muscle! Quote
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