Guest ~BD~ Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 <span style="color:blue"> > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:egshZNmWJHA.556@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Paul Adare" <pkadare@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:hkmdx9ilkrc4.1qxm51kc3j0j4$.dlg@40tude.net...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:37:01 -0000, ~BD~, le grand imb?cile, dit: >>></span> >> >> >> I will parry with mentioning yet another error spotted on your web site. >> >> On this page http://www.identit.ca/events.html you will note that the >> dark grey 'bar' is about three-quarters of the way down the page instead >> of being at the bottom as it is on other pages on your site. >> >> Perhaps, as supposedly an IT professional, you should put your own house >> in order. >> >> BD >> >> -- </span></span> "Brian Komar" <brian.komar@nospam.identit.ca> wrote in message news:02AF4970-5598-4676-B6D0-D8597C42F601@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Veuillez ramper de nouveau dans le trou que vous êtes venu de. > Merci, > Brian</span> To save others reading here simply wondering., the approximate translation of Mr Komar's comment is:- "Please crawl again in the hole that you came from. Thank you" This is not the type of answer might expect to receive from the top man of a major commercial operation, viz: Brian Komar - President Brian Komar is the president of IdentIT Inc., a consulting firm specializing in Public Key Infrastructure design and implementation and identity integration solutions. Brian partners with Microsoft on several ventures, authoring material for Microsoft's Prescriptive Architecture Guides, writing PKI white papers for Microsoft's Security team, and working as a principal consultant for the Microsoft Center of Excellence enterprise PKI design engagements. Brian is a frequent speaker at IT industry conferences such as Microsoft Tech.Ed, Microsoft IT Forum, and Windows IT Pro Magazine Connections. Paul Adare - Chief Technology Officer Paul Adare, the Chief Technology Officer of IdentIT Inc., is a security consultant specializing in Identity Management, Rights Management, and Public Key Infrastructure deployments. Paul has a wide ranging and varied background including the whole gamut of Microsoft technologies, Lotus Notes, Sun Microsystems, IBM AIX, and various flavours of UNIX and Linux. Over the many years that Paul has been involved with computer systems and security, he has held many different roles including technical training (Microsoft Certified Trainer, Lotus Notes Certified Trainer, Sun Microsystems Certified Trainer), consulting (Microsoft, Lotus Notes, Sun, IBM, Security, Identity Management, Rights Management, PKI), subject matter expert for Microsoft Learning Products, support and help desk roles among others. Paul has been involved with Microsoft's Identity Management platform since he worked as a subject matter expert on the Microsoft Learning Product Course 2062, Implementing Microsoft Metadirectory Services. Paul has been the Principal Consultant on a number of enterprise PKI and RMS deployments for large financial services customers in the US and Canada. In addition, Paul is a Microsoft MVP for Virtual PC and Virtual Server. Well, that is what is says here http://www.identit.ca/management.html I truly wonder if this is fact or fiction. Does anyone reading here know this firm and/or the people? Dave PS A simple "thanks for pointing out the error" would have been a more realistic response IMO. C'est la vie! Quote
Guest Brian Komar Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Actually, if you used a normal browser, you would see that there is no error I feel that my reputation is safe, You are a troll, plain and simple. I feel that our customers can easily distinguish between a competent professional (Paul and I) and a complete idiot troll (you) Welcome to only the 2nd person to ever achieve membership in my disregard list Brian <snip the crap> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 "Brian Komar" <brian.komar@nospam.identit.ca> wrote in message news:41A47F24-04D2-47A2-BCC8-289A9C7B1D16@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Actually, if you used a normal browser, you would see that there is no > error > I feel that my reputation is safe, > You are a troll, plain and simple. > I feel that our customers can easily distinguish between a competent > professional (Paul and I) and a complete idiot troll (you) > Welcome to only the 2nd person to ever achieve membership in my disregard > list > Brian > <snip the crap></span> -- So - I wonder where in the world you are today Mr Komar (your message timed at 0916 GMT - somewhat earlier in Canada?) Perhaps, as a competent professional, you can explain why the error was/is noticed when using Firefox 3.0.4. I am uncertain why you said "if you used a normal browser" - surely many folk now use Firefox, don't they? Is it not a normal browser? I appreciate that Mozilla might be at fault, so have submitted an error report accordingly [successfully Transmitted Report RMO12289055928792] Should there be an error at their end, I'm sure they will correct it. I'll let you know. I'm a little surprised though, that "as a competent professional", you had not checked your own web site using Firefox. You have further confused me. How would I ever come into contact with your customers (so that they may have to distinguish between us?) I was going to contact one of them, but you don't seem to have any! See http://www.identit.ca/clients.html Dave -- Quote
Guest BoaterDave@googlemail.com Posted December 13, 2008 Posted December 13, 2008 On Dec 10, 11:03 am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "Brian Komar" <brian.ko...@nospam.identit.ca> wrote in message > > news:41A47F24-04D2-47A2-BCC8-289A9C7B1D16@microsoft.com... ><span style="color:green"> > > Actually, if you used a normal browser, you would see that there is no > > error > > I feel that my reputation is safe, > > You are a troll, plain and simple. > > I feel that our customers can easily distinguish between a competent > > professional (Paul and I) and a complete idiot troll (you) > > Welcome to only the 2nd person to ever achieve membership in my disregard > > list > > Brian > > <snip the crap></span> > > -- > > So - I wonder where in the world you are today Mr Komar (your message timed > at 0916 GMT - somewhat earlier in Canada?) > > Perhaps, as a competent professional, you can explain why the error was/is > noticed  when using Firefox 3.0.4. I am uncertain why you said "if you used > a normal browser" - surely many folk now use Firefox, don't they? Is it not > a normal browser? > > I appreciate that Mozilla might be at fault, so have submitted an error > report accordingly [successfully Transmitted Report RMO12289055928792] > Should there be an error at their end, I'm sure they will correct it. I'll > let you know. I'm a little surprised though, that "as a competent > professional", you had not checked your own web site using Firefox. > > You have further confused me. How would I ever come into contact with your > customers (so that they may have to distinguish between us?) > I was going to contact one of them, but you don't seem to have any! See http://www.identit.ca/clients.html > > Dave > > --</span> I regret to advise that I've heard nothing from Mozilla. You have still not advised what you meant by Firefox not being a 'normal' browser. Perhaps someone in these groups who is knowledgeable in these matters could comment as to why your web site appears correctly when viewed with IE7 but has the 'error' when viewed with Firefox. I do hope so. Dave Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 13, 2008 Posted December 13, 2008 Browser error? <BoaterDave@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:b6163781-9bd6-4a27-89dc-1a7f28a98978@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Dec 10, 11:03 am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "Brian Komar" <brian.ko...@nospam.identit.ca> wrote in message > > news:41A47F24-04D2-47A2-BCC8-289A9C7B1D16@microsoft.com... ><span style="color:green"> > > Actually, if you used a normal browser, you would see that there is > > no > > error > > I feel that my reputation is safe, > > You are a troll, plain and simple. > > I feel that our customers can easily distinguish between a competent > > professional (Paul and I) and a complete idiot troll (you) > > Welcome to only the 2nd person to ever achieve membership in my > > disregard > > list > > Brian > > <snip the crap></span> > > -- > > So - I wonder where in the world you are today Mr Komar (your message > timed > at 0916 GMT - somewhat earlier in Canada?) > > Perhaps, as a competent professional, you can explain why the error > was/is > noticed when using Firefox 3.0.4. I am uncertain why you said "if you > used > a normal browser" - surely many folk now use Firefox, don't they? Is > it not > a normal browser? > > I appreciate that Mozilla might be at fault, so have submitted an > error > report accordingly [successfully Transmitted Report RMO12289055928792] > Should there be an error at their end, I'm sure they will correct it. > I'll > let you know. I'm a little surprised though, that "as a competent > professional", you had not checked your own web site using Firefox. > > You have further confused me. How would I ever come into contact with > your > customers (so that they may have to distinguish between us?) > I was going to contact one of them, but you don't seem to have any! > See http://www.identit.ca/clients.html > > Dave > > --</span> I regret to advise that I've heard nothing from Mozilla. You have still not advised what you meant by Firefox not being a 'normal' browser. Perhaps someone in these groups who is knowledgeable in these matters could comment as to why your web site appears correctly when viewed with IE7 but has the 'error' when viewed with Firefox. I do hope so. Dave Quote
Guest Twayne Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Browser error? > <BoaterDave@googlemail.com> wrote in message<span style="color:blue"> > news:b6163781-9bd6-4a27-89dc-1a7f28a98978@r10g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 10, 11:03 am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> "Brian Komar" <brian.ko...@nospam.identit.ca> wrote in message >> >> news:41A47F24-04D2-47A2-BCC8-289A9C7B1D16@microsoft.com... >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> Actually, if you used a normal browser, you would see that there is >>> no >>> error >>> I feel that my reputation is safe, >>> You are a troll, plain and simple. >>> I feel that our customers can easily distinguish between a competent >>> professional (Paul and I) and a complete idiot troll (you) >>> Welcome to only the 2nd person to ever achieve membership in my >>> disregard >>> list >>> Brian >>> <snip the crap></span> >> >> -- >> >> So - I wonder where in the world you are today Mr Komar (your message >> timed >> at 0916 GMT - somewhat earlier in Canada?) >> >> Perhaps, as a competent professional, you can explain why the error >> was/is >> noticed when using Firefox 3.0.4. I am uncertain why you said "if you >> used >> a normal browser" - surely many folk now use Firefox, don't they? Is >> it not >> a normal browser? >> >> I appreciate that Mozilla might be at fault, so have submitted an >> error >> report accordingly [successfully Transmitted Report >> RMO12289055928792] Should there be an error at their end, I'm sure >> they will correct it. I'll >> let you know. I'm a little surprised though, that "as a competent >> professional", you had not checked your own web site using Firefox. >> >> You have further confused me. How would I ever come into contact with >> your >> customers (so that they may have to distinguish between us?) >> I was going to contact one of them, but you don't seem to have any! >> See http://www.identit.ca/clients.html >> >> Dave >> >> --</span> > > I regret to advise that I've heard nothing from Mozilla. > > You have still not advised what you meant by Firefox not being a > 'normal' browser. > > Perhaps someone in these groups who is knowledgeable in these matters > could comment as to why your web site appears correctly when viewed > with IE7 but has the 'error' when viewed with Firefox. > > I do hope so. > > Dave</span> More than likely something in the html code is triggering IE's Quirks mode where it ignores and continues to operate on errors unlike many more advanced browsers. Believe FireFox, not IE if you're interested in the maximum number of browsers being able to read the code. IE can accept some pretty sloppy stuff; whether that's good or bad is debatable and has strong camps on both sides. The biggest downside if things that work only in IE because of the sloppy coding in the web pages. FF has a Quirks mode too but it's not as easy to turn on. For more detail, look it up on google or your fav search engine. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 14, 2008 Posted December 14, 2008 Re: Browser error? "Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message news:e5EB6dZXJHA.868@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> Perhaps someone in these groups who is knowledgeable in these matters >> could comment as to why your web site appears correctly when viewed >> with IE7 but has the 'error' when viewed with Firefox. >> >> I do hope so. >> >> Dave</span> > > More than likely something in the html code is triggering IE's Quirks > mode where it ignores and continues to operate on errors unlike many > more advanced browsers. Believe FireFox, not IE if you're interested > in the maximum number of browsers being able to read the code. IE can > accept some pretty sloppy stuff; whether that's good or bad is > debatable and has strong camps on both sides. The biggest downside if > things that work only in IE because of the sloppy coding in the web > pages. FF has a Quirks mode too but it's not as easy to turn on. For > more detail, look it up on google or your fav search engine. > > ></span> Thank you for your response, Twayne. Can you actually see the error to which I referred? Did you look? Thanks for the tip about Quirks - I'll take a look! Enjoy your day. Dave Quote
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