Guest jakein2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only see one disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix this problem? Thanks. Quote
Guest Richard Urban Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Details! Details! Details! You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What type of partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal hard drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB drive is it? Try again for help. -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only see one > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix this > problem? > > Thanks. </span> Quote
Guest jakein2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 Hi, thank you for your answer, My removable disk has 2 partitions, when in another computer I can see all the two partitions, but in my vista PC , I can only see one partition, another one is missing, the internal disk has no problem right now. So please help me to fix this problem? Thanks "Richard Urban" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Details! Details! Details! > > You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. > > How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What type of > partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal hard > drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB drive is it? > > Try again for help. > > -- > > Richard Urban > Microsoft MVP > Windows Desktop Experience > > > "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> > >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only see one > > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix this > > problem? > > > > Thanks. </span> > > </span> Quote
Guest Richard Urban Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 OK Another question. When you use disk management to look at the USB drive do you see 2 partitions? Or, do you see 1 partition and a space where the 2nd partition should be? What is the indicated condition of the 2nd partition? See what I mean about details! (-: -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E4B18349-A264-4194-89AA-BA11DCE4C01E@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Hi, thank you for your answer, > > My removable disk has 2 partitions, when in another computer I can see all > the two partitions, but in my vista PC , I can only see one partition, > another one is missing, the internal disk has no problem right now. > > So please help me to fix this problem? > > Thanks > > > "Richard Urban" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> Details! Details! Details! >> >> You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. >> >> How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What type >> of >> partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal hard >> drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB drive is >> it? >> >> Try again for help. >> >> -- >> >> Richard Urban >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Desktop Experience >> >> >> "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only see >> >one >> > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix this >> > problem? >> > >> > Thanks.</span> >> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:E4B18349-A264-4194-89AA-BA11DCE4C01E@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Richard Urban" wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only >> >see one >> > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix >> > this >> > problem? >> ></span> >> Details! Details! Details! >> >> You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. >> >> How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What >> type of >> partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal >> hard >> drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB drive >> is it? >> >> Try again for help. >></span> > Hi, thank you for your answer, > > My removable disk has 2 partitions, when in another computer I can see > all > the two partitions, but in my vista PC , I can only see one partition, > another one is missing, the internal disk has no problem right now. > > So please help me to fix this problem? ></span> Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, so as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck. -- Zaphod No matter where you go, there you are! Quote
Guest Richard Urban Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 He has already said that when connected up to another computer he sees 2 partitions! -- Richard Urban Microsoft MVP Windows Desktop Experience "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gi65q5$8kt$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"> > "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:E4B18349-A264-4194-89AA-BA11DCE4C01E@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Richard Urban" wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> > >> "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com... >>> >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can only see >>> >one >>> > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I fix >>> > this >>> > problem? >>> > >>> Details! Details! Details! >>> >>> You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. >>> >>> How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What type >>> of >>> partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal hard >>> drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB drive is >>> it? >>> >>> Try again for help. >>></span> >> Hi, thank you for your answer, >> >> My removable disk has 2 partitions, when in another computer I can see >> all >> the two partitions, but in my vista PC , I can only see one partition, >> another one is missing, the internal disk has no problem right now. >> >> So please help me to fix this problem? >></span> > > Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, so as > far as I know you are pretty much out of luck. > > -- > Zaphod > > No matter where you go, there you are! > </span> Quote
Guest Cody Jarrett Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:21 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, so >as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck.</span> Take that one out of your answer bag immediately and put it back where you found it (which was probably far up yer arse). Quote
Guest Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23xhrFOuXJHA.1328@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in > message news:gi65q5$8kt$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green"> >> "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:E4B18349-A264-4194-89AA-BA11DCE4C01E@microsoft.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> "Richard Urban" wrote: >>> >> >> "jakein2008" <jakein2008@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in >> >> message >>>> news:56986BF0-5520-429F-8965-CCE7B8EC94E5@microsoft.com... >>>> >I connect one removable hard disk to my Vista PC by USB,I can >>>> >only see one >>>> > disk and another disk is missing from the system, how should I >>>> > fix this >>>> > problem? >>>> > >>>> Details! Details! Details! >>>> >>>> You don't give enough for anyone to give you a valid response. >>>> >>>> How many hard drives are in your system? How many partitions? What >>>> type of >>>> partitions (primary, extended or logical)? Does one of the internal >>>> hard >>>> drives disappear when you plug in a USB drive? What kind of USB >>>> drive is it? >>>> >>>> Try again for help. >>>> >>> Hi, thank you for your answer, >>> >>> My removable disk has 2 partitions, when in another computer I can >>> see all >>> the two partitions, but in my vista PC , I can only see one >>> partition, >>> another one is missing, the internal disk has no problem right now. >>> >>> So please help me to fix this problem? >>></span> >> >> Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, >> so as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck. >></span> > He has already said that when connected up to another computer he sees > 2 partitions! ></span> And from reading other posts from the OP, it is likely that this hard drive was connected up as an internal drive, not in an external USB enclosure. My reply stands: Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives. -- Zaphod No matter where you go, there you are! Quote
Guest Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 "Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message news:ujcdk49u9ikn7hh5llllqfci6p40t65kc1@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:21 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" > <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, so >>as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck.</span> > > Take that one out of your answer bag immediately and put it back where > you found it (which was probably far up yer arse).</span> Actually, no. This is a well-known limitation of Windows and external / removable media, especially Flash drives, but the same holds for any drive that is seen by Windows as removable media. -- Zaphod No matter where you go, there you are! Quote
Guest Cody Jarrett Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:58:52 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message >news:ujcdk49u9ikn7hh5llllqfci6p40t65kc1@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:21 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" >> <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, so >>>as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck.</span> >> >> Take that one out of your answer bag immediately and put it back where >> you found it (which was probably far up yer arse).</span> > >Actually, no. This is a well-known limitation of Windows and external / >removable media, especially Flash drives, but the same holds for any >drive that is seen by Windows as removable media.</span> Reeeeeeeeeaaly?? <SNORK> Tell that to the WD My Book that I have connected to my system via USB. It's definitely removable. It currently has two partitions. It had three until I changed it recently. OH... I almost forgot: I also have a 160GB Toshiba 2.5" USB drive that I connect when I need to use it to copy directories to my notebook: it has three partitions on it. Can you explain how both of those somehow managed to slip under the "well-known limitation" <SNORK> you refer to? Quote
Guest Zaphod Beeblebrox Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 "Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message news:7cfdk4d7tev6qqajso4hpkdrtd0fnt3g9p@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:58:52 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" > <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >> >>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message >>news:ujcdk49u9ikn7hh5llllqfci6p40t65kc1@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:21 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" >>> <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, >>>>so >>>>as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck. >>> >>> Take that one out of your answer bag immediately and put it back >>> where >>> you found it (which was probably far up yer arse).</span> >> >>Actually, no. This is a well-known limitation of Windows and external >>/ >>removable media, especially Flash drives, but the same holds for any >>drive that is seen by Windows as removable media.</span> > > Reeeeeeeeeaaly?? <SNORK> > > Tell that to the WD My Book that I have connected to my system via > USB. It's definitely removable. It currently has two partitions. It > had three until I changed it recently. > > OH... I almost forgot: I also have a 160GB Toshiba 2.5" USB drive > that I connect when I need to use it to copy directories to my > notebook: it has three partitions on it. > > Can you explain how both of those somehow managed to slip under the > "well-known limitation" <SNORK> you refer to?</span> Well, ignoring your aparent upper respiratory issues, I'd say that to Windows, they don't appear as removable media drives. Many USB connected drives show as removable media, some don't (generally those with separate drivers). -- Zaphod No matter where you go, there you are! Quote
Guest Leonard Agoado Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> <SNORK></span></span> <span style="color:blue"> > Well, ignoring your aparent upper respiratory issues...</span> Zaphod, Good one! I almost snorked my coffee when I read it. Regards, Len Agoado agoado@msn.com Quote
Guest Cody Jarrett Posted December 15, 2008 Posted December 15, 2008 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 15:36:05 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message >news:7cfdk4d7tev6qqajso4hpkdrtd0fnt3g9p@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 14:58:52 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" >> <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>>"Cody Jarrett" <artcody@jarrett.invalid> wrote in message >>>news:ujcdk49u9ikn7hh5llllqfci6p40t65kc1@4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:57:21 -0500, "Zaphod Beeblebrox" >>>> <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Windows only supports a single partition on removable media drives, >>>>>so >>>>>as far as I know you are pretty much out of luck. >>>> >>>> Take that one out of your answer bag immediately and put it back >>>> where >>>> you found it (which was probably far up yer arse). >>> >>>Actually, no. This is a well-known limitation of Windows and external >>>/ >>>removable media, especially Flash drives, but the same holds for any >>>drive that is seen by Windows as removable media.</span> >> >> Reeeeeeeeeaaly?? <SNORK> >> >> Tell that to the WD My Book that I have connected to my system via >> USB. It's definitely removable. It currently has two partitions. It >> had three until I changed it recently. >> >> OH... I almost forgot: I also have a 160GB Toshiba 2.5" USB drive >> that I connect when I need to use it to copy directories to my >> notebook: it has three partitions on it. >> >> Can you explain how both of those somehow managed to slip under the >> "well-known limitation" <SNORK> you refer to?</span> > >Well, ignoring your aparent upper respiratory issues, I'd say that to >Windows, they don't appear as removable media drives. Many USB >connected drives show as removable media, some don't (generally those >with separate drivers).</span> Since this "limitation" is so well-known, perhaps you can supply a cite or two that talks about it. Something that includes Vista and isn't from Win98 days, preferably. Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 "Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gi6cdv$vcv$1@news.motzarella.org... <span style="color:blue"> > And from reading other posts from the OP, it is likely that this hard > drive was connected up as an internal drive, not in an external USB > enclosure. My reply stands: Windows only supports a single partition on > removable media drives.</span> I have a 20 gig HD from my old computer set inside a USB enclosure with three partitions. XP and Vista have no problem seeing those three partitions. ....although IIRC Windows won't recognize EXT3 or other nix flavor partitions & the OP hasn't said what the other computer was. Quote
Guest Cody Jarrett Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:11:10 -0500, "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >"Zaphod Beeblebrox" <Zaphod.Arisztid.Beeblebrox@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:gi6cdv$vcv$1@news.motzarella.org... ><span style="color:green"> >> And from reading other posts from the OP, it is likely that this hard >> drive was connected up as an internal drive, not in an external USB >> enclosure. My reply stands: Windows only supports a single partition on >> removable media drives.</span> > >I have a 20 gig HD from my old computer set inside a USB enclosure >with three partitions. XP and Vista have no problem seeing those three >partitions.</span> I'm sorry... but you must be imagining the extra partitions (as I am). "Zaphod" insists that (s)he is correct, so (s)he is. <span style="color:blue"> >...although IIRC Windows won't recognize EXT3 or other nix flavor >partitions & the OP hasn't said what the other computer was. ></span> Quote
Guest Paul Adare Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:39:12 -0600, Cody Jarrett wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Since this "limitation" is so well-known, perhaps you can supply a > cite or two that talks about it. > > Something that includes Vista and isn't from Win98 days, preferably.</span> There seems to be some terminology issues that are causing some confusion here. Both sides in this "discussion" are correct. You (the generic you, not specifically aimed at Cody, I just happened to choose his post to respond to) need to get past the bus type (USB) issue and look at how Vista sees the drive in question. There are two possible ways that Vista will view a USB drive: 1. As a Hard Disk Drive (hard disks in USB enclosures). 2. As a Device with Removable Storage (USB thumb drives). If Vista sees the device as a Hard Disk Drive (designated as such in Explorer and the disk will show up as a Basic, Dynamic, or GPT disk in Disk Management) one can create and delete partitions or volumes on the disk as one sees fit. If Vista sees the device as a Device with Removable Storage (designated as such in Explorer and the disk will show up as Removable in Device Manager) one cannot manipulate partitions and volumes and only a single partition is directly supported in Vista. Although ultimately all USB devices are "removable" when it comes to determining what partitioning scheme Vista supports, you need to look at whether or not Vista designates the device as Removable or not. In any case, this is not a security issue and really doesn't belong here. -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca Quote
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