Guest David H. Lipman Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 From: "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> | Brilliant. | Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones | own reputation. | You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. | I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it | would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too. I truly wish you were back in the saddle again. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:215da3a4-3c3b-42cd-abdc-daede9fc20df@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com... On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > A good reputation can take years to aquire... It can be destroyed in > an instant. > Unless you issue a public apology in the two > groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note > ... on every single Microsoft group</span> Brilliant. Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones own reputation. You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too. Hello John Eddy. Our paths have not crossed before and I do not intend to argue with you. As I said elsewhere, Robear Dyer LIED - I have never been banned by any ISP - ever ! I know that, He knows that .............. and so does Robear Dyer! Nuff said. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 18, 2008 Posted December 18, 2008 "Tom F" <tomf1365@l.net> wrote in message news:%23SxWTfWYJHA.5312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Dave, > Are you a natural ignorant jackass, or do you work at it? ></span> I suggest you ask your pals at Annexcafe User2User just how hard I've had to work at it. Come back here and let me know if they miss me, Tom! BD Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 From: "Tom F" <tomf1365@l.net> | Dave, | Are you a natural ignorant jackass, or do you work at it? I think it comes naturally to him. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 <ROFLPIMP> Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > ROFLMAO!!! > > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:gic05j$7fn$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote: >> >> A good reputation can take years to aquire, Robear Dyer. >> >> It can be destroyed in an instant. >> >> You know you have lied. Unless you issue a public apology in the two >> groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note >> regarding your dishonesty - on every single Microsoft group - before >> Christmas. >> >> You choose.</span></span> Quote
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 John Eddy wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> A good reputation can take years to aquire... It can be destroyed in an >> instant. Unless you issue a public apology in the two >> groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note >> ... on every single Microsoft group</span> > > Brilliant. > > Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones > own reputation. > > You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. > > I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it > would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too.</span> $10 says it was BD using another email alias, John. He's gone through a good dozen or so in the last 5 years (after being dumped by several ISPs for abuse). You are still very much missed. Hope your house ain't leakin' too much. <eg> -- ~Robear Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Dec 18, 6:50Â pm, "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > $10 says it was BD using another email alias, John.</span> Oh, no, I know who it was, and I'm relatively sure he isn't involved in newsgroups anymore. Quote
Guest Paul Adare Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:15:26 -0800 (PST), John Eddy wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones > own reputation. > > You make me wish I was still the NG Admin.</span> There are more than a few of us who have exactly the same wish! <span style="color:blue"> > > I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it > would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too.</span> Nice to see you're still around John! -- Paul Adare MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager http://www.identit.ca Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Message 'Headers' and IP addresses "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:OnHeQVYYJHA.256@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > John Eddy wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> A good reputation can take years to aquire... It can be destroyed in >>> an >>> instant. Unless you issue a public apology in the two >>> groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note >>> ... on every single Microsoft group</span> >> >> Brilliant. >> >> Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin >> ones >> own reputation. >> >> You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. >> >> I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it >> would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too.</span> > > $10 says it was BD using another email alias, John. He's gone through > a good dozen or so in the last 5 years (after being dumped by several > ISPs for abuse). > > You are still very much missed. Hope your house ain't leakin' too > much. <eg> > -- > ~Robear</span> Wrong! But ........... now I know - that you do know! Thank you. And Robear, remember, God knows too - that Dyer IS a Lier! I have used BoaterDave, ~BD~, Imbeady2 and Beady for sure (really trying to hide, eh!) and on one occasion used TechD. The latter was quite deliberately selected to be similar to TechB (aka Kerry Brown) to draw reaction on Annexcafe User2User - which it most certainly did! Oh yes, I've used John Doe too! I have NEVER been "dumped" (banned) by ANY ISP Good item here, btw - Tracking Financial Assets of Terrorists http://fpc.state.gov/7526.htm Liers are Bad Guys - they will be caught out. Dave Quote
Guest Tom [Pepper] Willett Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 Hi, John: The man is truly sick. But, his posts are so much fun to read...just when you think he's bottomed out, he comes up with such great treasures to laugh at. Tom "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:215da3a4-3c3b-42cd-abdc-daede9fc20df@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com... On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > A good reputation can take years to aquire... It can be destroyed in an > instant. > Unless you issue a public apology in the two > groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note > ... on every single Microsoft group</span> Brilliant. Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones own reputation. You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too. Quote
Guest ---Fitz--- Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:%23gS4rfWYJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > From: "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> > > | Brilliant. > > | Y'know, posting a spam like that is, in fact, a great way to ruin ones > | own reputation. > > | You make me wish I was still the NG Admin. > > | I removed one idiot's post when he did the same sort of thing, and it > | would have been my pleasure to do it to yours too. > > I truly wish you were back in the saddle again. > > -- > Dave > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp > ></span> Amen to that! Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:215da3a4-3c3b-42cd-abdc-daede9fc20df@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com... On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin."</span> An afterthought, John Eddy. Of which group were you the NG Admin? Dave Quote
Guest Tom [Pepper] Willett Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 ALL of the MS newsgroups...and he worked very closely with the MVPs to keep the trash emptied. "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:upnkXffYJHA.5272@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... : : "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message : news:215da3a4-3c3b-42cd-abdc-daede9fc20df@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com... : On Dec 17, 2:58 pm, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: : : > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin." : : An afterthought, John Eddy. : : Of which group were you the NG Admin? : : Dave : : Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Dec 19, 8:58Â am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <t...@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > : > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin." > : > : An afterthought, John Eddy. > : > : Of which group were you the NG Admin? > > ALL of the MS newsgroups...and he worked very closely with the MVPs to keep > the trash emptied.</span> What Tom said (although I would have just replied 'Yes.') I was responsible for the microsoft.public and microsoft.private hierarchies. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e59e03d3-e7ce-4b6a-ac22-fa012029572b@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com... On Dec 19, 8:58 am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <t...@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > : > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin." > : > : An afterthought, John Eddy. > : > : Of which group were you the NG Admin? > > ALL of the MS newsgroups...and he worked very closely with the MVPs to > keep > the trash emptied.</span> What Tom said (although I would have just replied 'Yes.') I was responsible for the microsoft.public and microsoft.private hierarchies. Thank you for your reply, John (a simple 'Yes' would not have meant anything to me, so thanks to Tom on this occasion) So, help me understand what changed (please). Were you sacked or did you resign? Were you an employee of Microsoft or a volunteer? Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to become part of Usenet and wide open to abuse? (The new Forums seem a much better idea to me) TIA of a sensible response. Dave Quote
Guest Tom [Pepper] Willett Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 And man, do we miss you! Tom "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e59e03d3-e7ce-4b6a-ac22-fa012029572b@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com... On Dec 19, 8:58 am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett" <t...@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > : > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin." > : > : An afterthought, John Eddy. > : > : Of which group were you the NG Admin? > > ALL of the MS newsgroups...and he worked very closely with the MVPs to > keep > the trash emptied.</span> What Tom said (although I would have just replied 'Yes.') I was responsible for the microsoft.public and microsoft.private hierarchies. Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Dec 19, 10:33Â am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > So, help me understand what changed (please). Were you sacked or did you > resign? Were you an employee of Microsoft or a volunteer?</span> I was a full time employee of Microsoft and why I am no longer employed there is none of your concern. <span style="color:blue"> > Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to become > part of Usenet and wide open to abuse? (The new Forums seem a much > better idea to me)</span> The Microsoft newsgroups were part of USENET before I was involved with them, probably going back to 1997 or so. As for why, likely to reach a wider audience and because numerous NNTP providers started slurping the newsgroups on their own. If you think the forums are a better idea, I strongly recommend using them instead. Use what you like. Quote
Guest N. Miller Posted December 19, 2008 Posted December 19, 2008 On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 18:33:09 -0000, ~BD~ wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > Were you sacked or did you resign?</span> What if he retired, after reaching the appropriate age? What if administration was outsourced? What does it matter to any of us about the why? <span style="color:blue"> > Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to become > part of Usenet and wide open to abuse?</span> Firewalling NNTP service from the larger Usenet to prevent abuse requires some additional steps. The 'sbcglobal.help.tech. ' hierarchy is so firewalled; requires an 'at&t Yahoo! HSI' login for access. the 'grc. ' hierarchy is so firewalled; requires a unique (to GRC) "Cecil ID" to be able to post. Presumably, Microsoft did not want to place such barriers to public access to these groups. Those barriers do lead to support issues for both firewalled hierarchies. -- Norman ~Shine, bright morning light, ~now in the air the spring is coming. ~Sweet, blowing wind, ~singing down the hills and valleys. Quote
Guest Kayman Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:23:53 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > And man, do we miss you!</span> Why you guys are raving about the past is beyond me; It's obvious that these kind of regulations don't work in the usenet environment! I find it remarkable that "educated" individuals are having difficulties ignoring certain postings, let alone responding to them. Oh well. (If you find it too hard to resist responding you could utilize a newsreader client which incorporates a 'Kill-File' feature). Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 On Dec 19, 4:38Â pm, Kayman <kayhkay-nosp...@operamail.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:23:53 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:<span style="color:green"> > > And man, do we miss you!</span> > > Why you guys are raving about the past is beyond me; It's obvious that > these kind of regulations don't work in the usenet environment! > I find it remarkable that "educated" individuals are having difficulties > ignoring certain postings, let alone responding to them. Oh well. > (If you find it too hard to resist responding you could utilize a > newsreader client which incorporates a 'Kill-File' feature).</span> I always found it remarkable that people would make a post complaining about people failing to ignore other posts. Quote
Guest Kayman Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:32:35 -0800 (PST), John Eddy wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > On Dec 19, 4:38Â pm, Kayman <kayhkay-nosp...@operamail.com> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:23:53 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> And man, do we miss you!</span> >> >> Why you guys are raving about the past is beyond me; It's obvious that >> these kind of regulations don't work in the usenet environment! >> I find it remarkable that "educated" individuals are having difficulties >> ignoring certain postings, let alone responding to them. Oh well. >> (If you find it too hard to resist responding you could utilize a >> newsreader client which incorporates a 'Kill-File' feature).</span> > > I always found it remarkable that people would make a post complaining > about people failing to ignore other posts.</span> I find it remarkable that "educated" individuals are having difficulties failing to grasp the difference between an observation and a complain. Most people don't seem to have a problem reading and/or ignoring posts from this particular individual without responding. (Ex administrator of Usenet groups would know that lurkers outnumber contributors). Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message news:e78d0f03-d7f8-4d7c-afc4-02bd17b6d2a1@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com... On Dec 19, 10:33 am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > So, help me understand what changed (please). Were you sacked or did > you > resign? Were you an employee of Microsoft or a volunteer?</span> I was a full time employee of Microsoft and why I am no longer employed there is none of your concern. Thank you for explaining that, John. I wasn't trying to pry and it is, of course, your prerogative not to say why you left. It is of no concern to me; it was merely a talking point - as Norman intimated, you may simply have retired in normal course (age related). <span style="color:blue"> > Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to > become > part of Usenet and wide open to abuse? (The new Forums seem a much > better idea to me)</span> The Microsoft newsgroups were part of USENET before I was involved with them, probably going back to 1997 or so. As for why, likely to reach a wider audience and because numerous NNTP providers started slurping the newsgroups on their own. If you think the forums are a better idea, I strongly recommend using them instead. Use what you like. I appreciate that information too, John. Thank you. If I were a betting man I'd wager that only 1 in 1000 folk who utilise the microsoft Communities groups realise, at least initially, that they have nothing to do with Microsoft itself (in reality). I have seen many, many posts from folk who are simply incredulous that Microsoft do not have staff supervising the newsgroups.and providing answers to their questions. I'd also bet that 999 in every 1000 will click on links in threads and in signature blocks thinking that Microsoft will have checked them to make sure they are 'safe'. What easy prey we are to those who wish us harm! <sigh> Dave Quote
Guest PA Bear [MS MVP] Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 OMG, I hope BD never finds sjamsuV +Josojc!W !! [Tip: Do a Google search for NQAS] John Eddy wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > On Dec 19, 10:33 am, "~BD~" <BoaterD...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> So, help me understand what changed (please). Were you sacked or did you >> resign? Were you an employee of Microsoft or a volunteer?</span> > > I was a full time employee of Microsoft and why I am no longer > employed there is none of your concern. > <span style="color:green"> >> Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to become >> part of Usenet and wide open to abuse? (The new Forums seem a much >> better idea to me)</span> > > The Microsoft newsgroups were part of USENET before I was involved > with them, probably going back to 1997 or so. As for why, likely to > reach a wider audience and because numerous NNTP providers started > slurping the newsgroups on their own. > > If you think the forums are a better idea, I strongly recommend using > them instead. Use what you like.</span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted December 20, 2008 Posted December 20, 2008 "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:u$wliQsYJHA.760@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > OMG, I hope BD never finds sjamsuV +Josojc!W !! > > [Tip: Do a Google search for NQAS]</span> Hello again, Robear .... ah yes! Dyer the Liar! What about that apology? Likely to materialise? I suspect not. I could quite enjoy causing mayhem for you .......... but as Norman has said, what will that achieve? I don't know yet. I await further guidance. How does it feel to lose control, btw? Dave Quote
Guest Rabbit Posted December 21, 2008 Posted December 21, 2008 What makes these security newsgroups so distasteful are not people like you - as there ARE no others like you. YOU are the reason these newsgroups are so distastful. "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:giahua$j91$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"> > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OSJH1F7XJHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> So MS just muddies the waters further with another interface ("seeded" by >> MVP posts in the newsgroups): http://answers.microsoft.com <grrr></span> > > Watch out Robear Dyer or they'll take away your badge! > > I think Microsoft Answers is a great idea - get people away from this > totally unregulated free-for-all known as Newsgroups. > > I often wonder how many folk who post in Microsoft Communities really > understand that they are becoming involved in Usenet and that their post > may be displayed across a myriad of servers. Exposed, too, to some who may > not have their welfare at heart. My guess is that it will be close to > zero. > > At least in the Microsoft Forums there will be some supervision and > moderation. That is a good thing IMO. > > One may start here: > http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums...istant/threads/ > > HTH > > Dave > </span> Quote
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