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Posted

Your responses are "ALWAYS" meant to be confrontational - JERK!

 

 

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

> news:12vyalgnxo3n0$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...<span style="color:green">

>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:49:01 -0000, ~BD~ wrote:

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> I think Microsoft Answers is a great idea - get people away from this

>>> totally unregulated free-for-all known as Newsgroups.

>>>

>>> I often wonder how many folk who post in Microsoft Communities really

>>> understand that they are becoming involved in Usenet and that their post

>>> may be displayed across a myriad of servers. Exposed, too, to some who

>>> may not have their welfare at heart. My guess is that it will be close

>>> to zero.

>>>

>>> At least in the Microsoft Forums there will be some supervision and

>>> moderation. That is a good thing IMO.</span>

>>

>> NNTP servers can be moderated; and moderation may not be a good thing.

>>

>> BTW, 'msnews.microsoft.com' is moderated to a limited extent. They do try

>> to

>> keep the spam levels down, and are, generally, pretty good at it.

>>

>> --

>> Norman

>> ~Shine, bright morning light,

>> ~now in the air the spring is coming.

>> ~Sweet, blowing wind,

>> ~singing down the hills and valleys.</span>

>

>

> Norman - you said "They do try to keep the spam levels down ... "

>

> My response is NOT meant to be confrontational .........

>

> Who, exactly, are the "They" to which you refer?

>

> AFAICT, if a post is made from a server other than Microsoft, no-one has

> any control whatsoever. Anyone may post a link to who-knows-where and

> no-one is responsible for checking that any 'link' is safe.

>

> If I've got this wrong, please tell me.

>

> Dave

> </span>

Posted

If someone doesn't want to see you that is their choice - Jerk!

 

 

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "N. Miller" <anonymous@msnews.aosake.net> wrote in message

> news:44u0zczro2p7$.dlg@msnews.aosake.net...<span style="color:green">

>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:42:36 -0000, ~BD~ wrote:</span>

>

> My thanks for your response, Norman.

>

> I now request a favour.

>

> I have recently posted a message to PABear which I will repeat/paste

> below. I now realise that as he has 'Killfiled' me he may not actually see

> my warning to him. I should be grateful if you would use your skills and

> knowledge of Newsgroups to make sure he does actually see what I have

> said. Thank you.

>

>

> "A good reputation can take years to aquire, Robear Dyer.

>

> It can be destroyed in an instant.

>

> You know you have lied. Unless you issue a public apology in the two

> groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note

> regarding your dishonesty - on every single Microsoft group - before

> Christmas.

>

> You choose.

>

> Dave "

>

> </span>

Posted

You, on the other hand, have no "good" reputation to have you worry about it

being destroyed - JERK.

 

 

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OEh6adJYJHA.4596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

>

> A good reputation can take years to aquire, Robear Dyer.

>

> It can be destroyed in an instant.

>

> You know you have lied. Unless you issue a public apology in the two

> groups involved here, I will make certain that I publish a note regarding

> your dishonesty - on every single Microsoft group - before Christmas.

>

> You choose.

>

> Dave

> </span>

Posted

You have to proctice even to be an as hole - and you certainly do so - JERK!

 

 

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "Tom F" <tomf1365@l.net> wrote in message

> news:%23SxWTfWYJHA.5312@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>> Dave,

>> Are you a natural ignorant jackass, or do you work at it?

>></span>

>

> I suggest you ask your pals at Annexcafe User2User just how hard I've had

> to work at it.

>

> Come back here and let me know if they miss me, Tom!

>

> BD

>

>

> </span>

Posted

YOU are the abuse on this particular newsgroup - JERK.

 

 

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:e59e03d3-e7ce-4b6a-ac22-fa012029572b@w1g2000prk.googlegroups.com...

> On Dec 19, 8:58 am, "Tom [Pepper] Willett"

> <t...@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote:<span style="color:green">

>> : > "You make me wish I was still the NG Admin."

>> :

>> : An afterthought, John Eddy.

>> :

>> : Of which group were you the NG Admin?

>>

>> ALL of the MS newsgroups...and he worked very closely with the MVPs to

>> keep

>> the trash emptied.</span>

>

> What Tom said (although I would have just replied 'Yes.')

>

> I was responsible for the microsoft.public and microsoft.private

> hierarchies.

>

>

>

> Thank you for your reply, John (a simple 'Yes' would not have meant

> anything to me, so thanks to Tom on this occasion)

>

> So, help me understand what changed (please). Were you sacked or did you

> resign? Were you an employee of Microsoft or a volunteer?

>

> Most importantly, why did Microsoft allow their 'Communities' to become

> part of Usenet and wide open to abuse? (The new Forums seem a much better

> idea to me)

>

> TIA of a sensible response.

>

> Dave

> </span>

Guest Peter Foldes
Posted

I'm pretty sure that BoaterDave first became suspicious when I said to

him - "I do understand your frustrations when you lose a child".

 

He seemed to feel that a good guy would have used words like .....

awful, dreadful, heart-rending, tragic, terrible. What's wrong with

using frustrating?

 

Maybe that's why it's a special day today - it's the birthday of Dave's

deceased son.

 

I'm sure he's also seen this item, posted in Annexcafe after he'd been

banned:-

 

 

"Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message<span style="color:blue">

> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...

> Reckon he finally figured it out?</span>

<span style="color:blue">

> Sure was dense for a supposedly English gentleman...</span>

 

 

"Peter Foldes" <okf122@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> Most if not all Englishmen are extremely bright but when a Englishman

> is stupid then he is really stupid. This one takes after Chamberlain.

> Nuf said

></span>

 

 

 

 

"John Eddy" <jaydeflix@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On Dec 19, 4:38 pm, Kayman <kayhkay-nosp...@operamail.com> wrote:<span style="color:blue">

> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:23:53 -0600, Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:<span style="color:green">

> > And man, do we miss you!</span>

>

> Why you guys are raving about the past is beyond me; It's obvious that

> these kind of regulations don't work in the usenet environment!

> I find it remarkable that "educated" individuals are having

> difficulties

> ignoring certain postings, let alone responding to them. Oh well.

> (If you find it too hard to resist responding you could utilize a

> newsreader client which incorporates a 'Kill-File' feature).</span>

 

I always found it remarkable that people would make a post complaining

about people failing to ignore other posts.

  • 2 weeks later...
Guest James Matthews
Posted

Thanks for the tip! I am going to move over right away! I feel it's very

important to have both becuase newsgroups have been around for a while!

 

--

 

http://www.astorandblack.com/

"~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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>

> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

> news:OSJH1F7XJHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>> So MS just muddies the waters further with another interface ("seeded" by

>> MVP posts in the newsgroups): http://answers.microsoft.com <grrr></span>

>

> Watch out Robear Dyer or they'll take away your badge!

>

> I think Microsoft Answers is a great idea - get people away from this

> totally unregulated free-for-all known as Newsgroups.

>

> I often wonder how many folk who post in Microsoft Communities really

> understand that they are becoming involved in Usenet and that their post

> may be displayed across a myriad of servers. Exposed, too, to some who may

> not have their welfare at heart. My guess is that it will be close to

> zero.

>

> At least in the Microsoft Forums there will be some supervision and

> moderation. That is a good thing IMO.

>

> One may start here:

> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums...istant/threads/

>

> HTH

>

> Dave

> </span>

Posted

You're welcome, James! style_emoticons/

 

Dave

 

 

"James Matthews" <jamesmatt18@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Thanks for the tip! I am going to move over right away! I feel it's

> very important to have both becuase newsgroups have been around for a

> while!

>

> --

>

> http://www.astorandblack.com/

> "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

> news:giahua$j91$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green">

>>

>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:OSJH1F7XJHA.4480@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred">

>>> So MS just muddies the waters further with another interface

>>> ("seeded" by MVP posts in the newsgroups):

>>> http://answers.microsoft.com <grrr></span>

>>

>> Watch out Robear Dyer or they'll take away your badge!

>>

>> I think Microsoft Answers is a great idea - get people away from

>> this totally unregulated free-for-all known as Newsgroups.

>>

>> I often wonder how many folk who post in Microsoft Communities really

>> understand that they are becoming involved in Usenet and that their

>> post may be displayed across a myriad of servers. Exposed, too, to

>> some who may not have their welfare at heart. My guess is that it

>> will be close to zero.

>>

>> At least in the Microsoft Forums there will be some supervision and

>> moderation. That is a good thing IMO.

>>

>> One may start here:

>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums...istant/threads/

>>

>> HTH

>>

>> Dave

>></span>

> </span>

Posted

"Peter Foldes" <.okf122@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:gimkcu$d63$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue">

> I'm sure he's also seen this item, posted in Annexcafe after he'd been

> banned:-

>

><span style="color:green">

>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...</span></span>

<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green">

>> Reckon he finally figured it out?</span></span>

 

 

From what I have read on the Microsoft newsgroups, I believe that you

also frequent User2User at Annexcafe.com Mr Foldes.

 

No doubt you recall 'Grybeard' mentioning this, but I wonder if you know

/exactly/ what BoaterDave discovered there.

 

Is it a safe place for others to go to get help with their computers?

TIA

 

Trish

Posted

"trisha" <trisha@nomail.Im.afraid> wrote in message

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>

> "Peter Foldes" <.okf122@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:gimkcu$d63$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green">

>> I'm sure he's also seen this item, posted in Annexcafe after he'd

>> been

>> banned:-

>>

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...</span></span>

><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

>>> Reckon he finally figured it out?</span></span>

>

>

> From what I have read on the Microsoft newsgroups, I believe that you

> also frequent User2User at Annexcafe.com Mr Foldes.

>

> No doubt you recall 'Grybeard' mentioning this, but I wonder if you

> know /exactly/ what BoaterDave discovered there.

>

> Is it a safe place for others to go to get help with their computers?

> TIA

>

> Trish

></span>

 

 

I doubt he'll respond and tell you, Trish.

 

If I were you I'd avoid going there.

 

HTH

 

Dave

Guest ---Fitz---
Posted

"trisha" <trisha@nomail.Im.afraid> wrote in message

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>

> "Peter Foldes" <.okf122@hotmail.com> wrote in message

> news:gimkcu$d63$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green">

>> I'm sure he's also seen this item, posted in Annexcafe after he'd been

>> banned:-

>>

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...</span></span>

><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred">

>>> Reckon he finally figured it out?</span></span>

>

>

> From what I have read on the Microsoft newsgroups, I believe that you also

> frequent User2User at Annexcafe.com Mr Foldes.

>

> No doubt you recall 'Grybeard' mentioning this, but I wonder if you know

> /exactly/ what BoaterDave discovered there.

>

> Is it a safe place for others to go to get help with their computers? TIA

>

> Trish

></span>

You sound a lot like BoaterDave. Same ISP, same language structure. Could

it be another "nick"? Say it ain't so!!!

 

TIA

Guest Trisha
Posted

"---Fitz---" <---fitz---@invalid.com> wrote in message

news:eqIJzYPbJHA.1272@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue">

> "trisha" <trisha@nomail.Im.afraid> wrote in message

> news:eZlmpy1aJHA.4072@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green">

>>

>> "Peter Foldes" <.okf122@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>> news:gimkcu$d63$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:darkred">

>>> I'm sure he's also seen this item, posted in Annexcafe after he'd

>>> been

>>> banned:-

>>>

>>>

>>>> "Grybeard" <grybeard76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>>>> news:jde5l0GTGHA.4276@GAMERA.annex.com...</span>

>><span style="color:darkred">

>>>> Reckon he finally figured it out?</span>

>>

>>

>> From what I have read on the Microsoft newsgroups, I believe that you

>> also frequent User2User at Annexcafe.com Mr Foldes.

>>

>> No doubt you recall 'Grybeard' mentioning this, but I wonder if you

>> know /exactly/ what BoaterDave discovered there.

>>

>> Is it a safe place for others to go to get help with their computers?

>> TIA

>>

>> Trish

>></span>

> You sound a lot like BoaterDave. Same ISP, same language structure.

> Could it be another "nick"? Say it ain't so!!!

>

> TIA</span>

 

I don't normally 'speak' like that but ...........

 

"It ain't so!""

 

HTH

 

Trish

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