Guest CapCity Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 I've been able to find countless references to the above message but the situations do not seem to be exactly like mine, or the solutions presented did not work for the original poster. Here's my saga: I had an XP machine die on me. There were 3 physical hard drives in there, and there are things I want to keep from all 3. All 3 were formatted and populated by the XP machine. I got one of those USB enclosures. I also got a brand new computer a couple of days ago which is running, of course, Vista. My first thought was to blow away the O/S and install XP, but was convinced to give Vista a shot. I put the old XP boot disk into the enclosure and plugged it into the Vista machine. I was able to copy over some files from the root of the old dive, and one entire folder off of the root. I tried another folder off of the root and could not copy everything in there because of the above message. The message says that destination folder access is denied, which I doubted, as I am on an administrator account and it's just a folder, not something the Windows or Program Files folder. A little research led me to believe that it was an ownership issue on the source folder and I was able to change the owner to the Vista account but I still could not copy everything. I had the same problem when I tried to get stuff out of the "My Documents", "Favorites" and the like from the old XP drive, which was less surprising. But still frustrating. Same thing - was able to change ownership but still unable to copy files. So my questions are this: 1 - Is there some command, or setting or something, that will allow me to copy/delete any file I want from these XP drives? Preferably a global one and not one where I have to do multiple clicks for each folder. 2 - If I get the XP machine running again, will me changing ownership on those folders/files cause me any grief if these drives are put back in the XP machine? If so, how can that be rectified? Thanks for your time and any guidance! Quote
Guest Eric Bursley Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 you will need to open windows explorer with elevated permissions, and take ownership of the files. This will then allow you to change the security descriptor, permitting you to copy files from it. -- Eric Bursley PMP, MCSE, RHCE "CapCity" <Cap@City.com> wrote in message news:496b3fe6$0$31216$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com...<span style="color:blue"> > I've been able to find countless references to the above message but the > situations do not seem to be exactly like mine, or the solutions > presented did not work for the original poster. > > Here's my saga: > > I had an XP machine die on me. There were 3 physical hard drives in there, > and there are things I want to keep from all 3. All 3 were formatted and > populated by the XP machine. I got one of those USB enclosures. I also got > a brand new computer a couple of days ago which is running, of course, > Vista. My first thought was to blow away the O/S and install XP, but was > convinced to give Vista a shot. > > I put the old XP boot disk into the enclosure and plugged it into the > Vista machine. I was able to copy over some files from the root of the old > dive, and one entire folder off of the root. I tried another folder off of > the root and could not copy everything in there because of the above > message. The message says that destination folder access is denied, which > I doubted, as I am on an administrator account and it's just a folder, not > something the Windows or Program Files folder. A little research led me to > believe that it was an ownership issue on the source folder and I was able > to change the owner to the Vista account but I still could not copy > everything. > > I had the same problem when I tried to get stuff out of the "My > Documents", "Favorites" and the like from the old XP drive, which was less > surprising. But still frustrating. Same thing - was able to change > ownership but still unable to copy files. > > So my questions are this: > > 1 - Is there some command, or setting or something, that will allow me to > copy/delete any file I want from these XP drives? Preferably a global one > and not one where I have to do multiple clicks for each folder. > > 2 - If I get the XP machine running again, will me changing ownership on > those folders/files cause me any grief if these drives are put back in the > XP machine? If so, how can that be rectified? > > Thanks for your time and any guidance! > </span> Quote
Guest CapCity Posted January 12, 2009 Posted January 12, 2009 "Eric Bursley" <eric@bursley.net> wrote in message news:eo$GEDNdJHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > you will need to open windows explorer with elevated permissions, and take > ownership of the files. This will then allow you to change the security > descriptor, permitting you to copy files from it. > ></span> Thanks for that. I understand the elevated permissions and taking ownership of the files. I am not sure how to change the security descriptor. I've searched and can find some references on SDDL and chkdsk problems with security descriptors, but not exactly how to change them. If I'm being dense, I apologize. But I'm afraid I need a little more help. Thanks <span style="color:blue"> > -- > Eric Bursley > PMP, MCSE, RHCE > "CapCity" <Cap@City.com> wrote in message > news:496b3fe6$0$31216$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com...<span style="color:green"> >> I've been able to find countless references to the above message but the >> situations do not seem to be exactly like mine, or the solutions >> presented did not work for the original poster. >> >> Here's my saga: >> >> I had an XP machine die on me. There were 3 physical hard drives in >> there, and there are things I want to keep from all 3. All 3 were >> formatted and populated by the XP machine. I got one of those USB >> enclosures. I also got a brand new computer a couple of days ago which is >> running, of course, Vista. My first thought was to blow away the O/S and >> install XP, but was convinced to give Vista a shot. >> >> I put the old XP boot disk into the enclosure and plugged it into the >> Vista machine. I was able to copy over some files from the root of the >> old dive, and one entire folder off of the root. I tried another folder >> off of the root and could not copy everything in there because of the >> above message. The message says that destination folder access is denied, >> which I doubted, as I am on an administrator account and it's just a >> folder, not something the Windows or Program Files folder. A little >> research led me to believe that it was an ownership issue on the source >> folder and I was able to change the owner to the Vista account but I >> still could not copy everything. >> >> I had the same problem when I tried to get stuff out of the "My >> Documents", "Favorites" and the like from the old XP drive, which was >> less surprising. But still frustrating. Same thing - was able to change >> ownership but still unable to copy files. >> >> So my questions are this: >> >> 1 - Is there some command, or setting or something, that will allow me to >> copy/delete any file I want from these XP drives? Preferably a global one >> and not one where I have to do multiple clicks for each folder. >> >> 2 - If I get the XP machine running again, will me changing ownership on >> those folders/files cause me any grief if these drives are put back in >> the XP machine? If so, how can that be rectified? >> >> Thanks for your time and any guidance! >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 There was a similar question in this group recently; I know because I have had a similar problem transferring a hard drive from XP to Vista and I also forwarded the answers to my nephew because he asked about transferring a hard drive from system to system; I think from XP to Vista also. "CapCity" <Cap@City.com> wrote in message news:496b3fe6$0$31216$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > > 1 - Is there some command, or setting or something, that will allow me to > copy/delete any file I want from these XP drives?</span> Quote
Guest CapCity Posted January 13, 2009 Posted January 13, 2009 "CapCity" <Cap@City.com> wrote in message news:496b9340$0$29016$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Eric Bursley" <eric@bursley.net> wrote in message > news:eo$GEDNdJHA.5960@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> you will need to open windows explorer with elevated permissions, and >> take ownership of the files. This will then allow you to change the >> security descriptor, permitting you to copy files from it. >> >></span> > > Thanks for that. I understand the elevated permissions and taking > ownership of the files. > > I am not sure how to change the security descriptor. I've searched and can > find some references on SDDL and chkdsk problems with security > descriptors, but not exactly how to change them. If I'm being dense, I > apologize. But I'm afraid I need a little more help. ></span> I think I found it. Will try it tonight. <span style="color:blue"> > Thanks ><span style="color:green"> >> -- >> Eric Bursley >> PMP, MCSE, RHCE >> "CapCity" <Cap@City.com> wrote in message >> news:496b3fe6$0$31216$6c36adad@news.usenetserver.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> I've been able to find countless references to the above message but the >>> situations do not seem to be exactly like mine, or the solutions >>> presented did not work for the original poster. >>> >>> Here's my saga: >>> >>> I had an XP machine die on me. There were 3 physical hard drives in >>> there, and there are things I want to keep from all 3. All 3 were >>> formatted and populated by the XP machine. I got one of those USB >>> enclosures. I also got a brand new computer a couple of days ago which >>> is running, of course, Vista. My first thought was to blow away the O/S >>> and install XP, but was convinced to give Vista a shot. >>> >>> I put the old XP boot disk into the enclosure and plugged it into the >>> Vista machine. I was able to copy over some files from the root of the >>> old dive, and one entire folder off of the root. I tried another folder >>> off of the root and could not copy everything in there because of the >>> above message. The message says that destination folder access is >>> denied, which I doubted, as I am on an administrator account and it's >>> just a folder, not something the Windows or Program Files folder. A >>> little research led me to believe that it was an ownership issue on the >>> source folder and I was able to change the owner to the Vista account >>> but I still could not copy everything. >>> >>> I had the same problem when I tried to get stuff out of the "My >>> Documents", "Favorites" and the like from the old XP drive, which was >>> less surprising. But still frustrating. Same thing - was able to change >>> ownership but still unable to copy files. >>> >>> So my questions are this: >>> >>> 1 - Is there some command, or setting or something, that will allow me >>> to copy/delete any file I want from these XP drives? Preferably a global >>> one and not one where I have to do multiple clicks for each folder. >>> >>> 2 - If I get the XP machine running again, will me changing ownership on >>> those folders/files cause me any grief if these drives are put back in >>> the XP machine? If so, how can that be rectified? >>> >>> Thanks for your time and any guidance! >>></span> >></span> > > </span> Quote
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