Guest ~BD~ Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23e1a679ced341f198983e@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <ewn1N8CfJHA.5496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23e18ddde6c9bdc198983b@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <urVvsxBfJHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, >> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >> >> My difficulty with newsgroups - and some forums - is knowing who >> >> may >> >> be >> >> trustworthy. >> >> >> > >> > This is a simple one BD, trust NO ONE, PERIOD. >> > >> > Don't trust me, nor anyone else in these groups, as we've seen >> > before, >> > there are unethical people that impersonate others and most people >> > have >> > no clue that it's happening (since they can't read headers). >> > >> > The first rule of security - Block Everything. Second rule, trust >> > nothing until given a reason to trust it. >> > >> > -- </span> >> >> Thanks for spelling it out for others to see, Leythos. >> >> When first I ventured onto a newsgroup I had never even heard of a >> Header, let alone know how to read one! >> >> Mr Foldes is clever though - he can read an IP address even if it is >> encrypted within the Header info. I'm uncertain how he can do that. >> style_emoticons/</span> > > I've been on Usenet since 84, that's a lot of changes and a lot of > crap > to have watched over the years. > > Always double check anything you read, email, web, Usenet, etc... > Don't > believe that an email sent from someone that appears to be a friend or > someone you email every day is actually from them - if it looks > suspicious or you don't know, call the person or disregard it. > > -- > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> Ooops! It appears that I forgot to thank you for that post, Leythos. My apologies - I do appreciate your helpful comments. style_emoticons/ With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility called Prevx? From their web site http://www.prevx.com/ :- "Prevx has developed a revolutionary approach to protecting computers from an ever-escalating assortment of malware for which it has been named a 'Herd Intelligence' leader by Yankee Group and 'Cool Vendor' by Gartner Research. Unlike traditional security companies that identify malicious code by its 'signature' and then must develop a cure one virus at a time, Prevx's Community Intrusion Prevention (CIP) system identifies malicious code by its 'behavior' and is able to neutralize whole classes of malware before it ever has a recognized signature. As the traditional line of computer defense crumbles under the mounting threat of malware, Prevx is able to use intelligence derived from detailed analysis of its rapidly growing community of users to offer more aggressive, comprehensive and effective protection from malware for the world of interconnected computers. Prevx is a wholly owned subsidiary of Retento Ltd. Contact Prevx. Retento Ltd can be reached in the UK on 01332 916 350 or in the USA on 1 888 895 4943." Dave Quote
Guest Leythos Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility called > Prevx? > </span> I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from a site I believe is reputable: http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility called >> Prevx? >></span> > > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from a > site I believe is reputable: > > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ > > -- > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a programme total access to your computer? I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/ -- Dave Quote
Guest Leythos Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 In article <#ysc12#gJHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, > > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility called > >> Prevx? > >></span> > > > > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from a > > site I believe is reputable: > > > > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ > > > > -- > > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> > > > Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. > > Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a > programme total access to your computer? > > I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/</span> Nope, not a chance. I see no reason to install something like that on my computers inside my protected networks. As of this date I've never been compromised, follow very strict rules and methods, and block content that most people don't even think about. I also tend to avoid products related to security that are made outside the USA, and don't purchase Foreign made computers/laptops if I can avoid it. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23ee93e2f4ca5fe98989c@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <#ysc12#gJHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, >> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >> >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility >> >> called >> >> Prevx? >> >> >> > >> > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from >> > a >> > site I believe is reputable: >> > >> > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ >> > >> > -- >> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. >> > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling >> > a >> > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" >> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> >> >> >> Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. >> >> Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a >> programme total access to your computer? >> >> I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/</span> > > Nope, not a chance. I see no reason to install something like that on > my > computers inside my protected networks. As of this date I've never > been > compromised, follow very strict rules and methods, and block content > that most people don't even think about. > > I also tend to avoid products related to security that are made > outside > the USA, and don't purchase Foreign made computers/laptops if I can > avoid it. > ></span> Thanks once more for your comments, Leythos. Although you have told me to trust noone, I'm afraid you have failed to convince me that I shouldn't trust you ! style_emoticons/)) How do you feel about contact by email? -- Dave Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23ee93e2f4ca5fe98989c@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <#ysc12#gJHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, >> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >> >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility called >> >> Prevx? >> >> >> > >> > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from a >> > site I believe is reputable: >> > >> > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ >> > >> > -- >> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. >> > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a >> > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" >> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> >> >> >> Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. >> >> Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a >> programme total access to your computer? >> >> I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/</span> > > Nope, not a chance. I see no reason to install something like that on my > computers inside my protected networks. As of this date I've never been > compromised, follow very strict rules and methods, and block content > that most people don't even think about. > > I also tend to avoid products related to security that are made outside > the USA, and don't purchase Foreign made computers/laptops if I can > avoid it.</span> Not to mention that it requires that you execute malware. Quote
Guest Leythos Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 In article <uiaCeK$gJHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > How do you feel about contact by email? > </span> What could we discuss that can't be discussed here - remember, I may not be what/who I appear to be. If we're going to talk security or such, we should keep it here so that others may benefit from our discussion and/or correct any mistakes we make so that we may learn from them also. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:%23tHeCP$gJHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.23ee93e2f4ca5fe98989c@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In article <#ysc12#gJHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, >> BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >>> news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com... >>> > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, >>> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >>> >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility >>> >> called >>> >> Prevx? >>> >> >>> > >>> > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review >>> > from a >>> > site I believe is reputable: >>> > >>> > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ >>> > >>> > -- >>> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. >>> > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like >>> > calling a >>> > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" >>> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) >>> >>> >>> Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. >>> >>> Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a >>> programme total access to your computer? >>> >>> I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/</span> >> >> Nope, not a chance. I see no reason to install something like that on >> my >> computers inside my protected networks. As of this date I've never >> been >> compromised, follow very strict rules and methods, and block content >> that most people don't even think about. >> >> I also tend to avoid products related to security that are made >> outside >> the USA, and don't purchase Foreign made computers/laptops if I can >> avoid it.</span> > > Not to mention that it requires that you execute malware. ></span> Hello FTR. style_emoticons/ Please would you expand on your statement. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Thanks. -- Dave Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23ee9b9e6e9bb21c98989d@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <uiaCeK$gJHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> How do you feel about contact by email? >></span> > > What could we discuss that can't be discussed here - remember, I may > not > be what/who I appear to be. > > If we're going to talk security or such, we should keep it here so > that > others may benefit from our discussion and/or correct any mistakes we > make so that we may learn from them also. > > -- > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)</span> I take on board what you say. Leythos and do understand your position. Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, 1PW and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this group when others have simply blanked me. TIA -- Dave Quote
Guest Leythos Posted January 31, 2009 Posted January 31, 2009 In article <#Cq4za$gJHA.4868@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.23ee9b9e6e9bb21c98989d@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <uiaCeK$gJHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, > > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> How do you feel about contact by email? > >></span> > > > > What could we discuss that can't be discussed here - remember, I may > > not > > be what/who I appear to be. > > > > If we're going to talk security or such, we should keep it here so > > that > > others may benefit from our discussion and/or correct any mistakes we > > make so that we may learn from them also.</span> > > I take on board what you say. Leythos and do understand your position. > > Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, 1PW > and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this > group when others have simply blanked me. TIA</span> I could only explain for myself - There are times when I think you're a troll, other times when I don't care, and then there are times when I answer regardless of what I think about the person. If you post interests me and I have time I respond - it's as simple as that. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23eea559ce86558298989e@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <#Cq4za$gJHA.4868@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23ee9b9e6e9bb21c98989d@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >> > In article <uiaCeK$gJHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, >> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >> >> How do you feel about contact by email? >> >> >> > >> > What could we discuss that can't be discussed here - remember, I >> > may >> > not >> > be what/who I appear to be. >> > >> > If we're going to talk security or such, we should keep it here so >> > that >> > others may benefit from our discussion and/or correct any mistakes >> > we >> > make so that we may learn from them also.</span> >> >> I take on board what you say. Leythos and do understand your >> position. >> >> Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, >> 1PW >> and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this >> group when others have simply blanked me. TIA</span> > > I could only explain for myself - There are times when I think you're > a > troll, other times when I don't care, and then there are times when I > answer regardless of what I think about the person. > > If you post interests me and I have time I respond - it's as simple as > that. ></span> Regardless, I appreciate your help/advice - especially when I'm aware that your action alienates you too. Thank you. style_emoticons/ David H Lipman has said, categorically, that there are no 'bad guys' on the Microsoft groups. IMO there is absolutely no way he could possible know that to be true. What do you think? -- Dave -- Dave Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> | Regardless, I appreciate your help/advice - especially when I'm aware | that your action alienates you too. Thank you. style_emoticons/ | David H Lipman has said, categorically, that there are no 'bad guys' on | the Microsoft groups. IMO there is absolutely no way he could possible | know that to be true. | What do you think? | -- | Dave I was referring to terrorists. There are lots of "bad guys" from the idiots in the Vista group, to the spammers to Butts. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:uI1HJW$gJHA.3904@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message > news:%23tHeCP$gJHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23ee93e2f4ca5fe98989c@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> In article <#ysc12#gJHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, >>> BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >>>> >>>> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message >>>> news:MPG.23ee8b3eed3f0fd298989b@us.news.astraweb.com... >>>> > In article <OelsU68gJHA.956@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, >>>> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... >>>> >> With all your experience, have you any knowledge of a facility >>>> >> called >>>> >> Prevx? >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > I have no personal experience with it, but I did find a review from a >>>> > site I believe is reputable: >>>> > >>>> > http://www.lockergnome.com/blade/2007/02/14/prevx-review/ >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. >>>> > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a >>>> > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" >>>> > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for taking the trouble to provide that review, Leythos. >>>> >>>> Now that you have read about it, are you tempted to give such a >>>> programme total access to your computer? >>>> >>>> I think ............ probably not! style_emoticons/ >>> >>> Nope, not a chance. I see no reason to install something like that on my >>> computers inside my protected networks. As of this date I've never been >>> compromised, follow very strict rules and methods, and block content >>> that most people don't even think about. >>> >>> I also tend to avoid products related to security that are made outside >>> the USA, and don't purchase Foreign made computers/laptops if I can >>> avoid it.</span> >> >> Not to mention that it requires that you execute malware. >></span> > > Hello FTR. style_emoticons/ > > Please would you expand on your statement. I'm not quite sure what you > mean. Thanks.</span> Just that in order to detect malware by its exhibited behavior, said malware has to execute. Prevention is about not allowing malware to execute. I'm not saying that it wouldn't be a good tool to use, only that they dismiss the need for old school scanners too easily. The value of signature based scanning has been greatly misunderestimated in their view. [uh oh...here they come..the grammar police] style_emoticons// Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:uIZz4IAhJHA.1288@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> > > > | Regardless, I appreciate your help/advice - especially when I'm > aware > | that your action alienates you too. Thank you. style_emoticons/ > > | David H Lipman has said, categorically, that there are no 'bad guys' > on > | the Microsoft groups. IMO there is absolutely no way he could > possible > | know that to be true. > > | What do you think? > | -- > | Dave > > > I was referring to terrorists. There are lots of "bad guys" from the > idiots in the Vista > group, to the spammers to Butts. > > > -- > Dave > http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html > Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp</span> I appreciate yout honesty on this occasion. Thank you, Mr Lipman. I'll explain my thinking just one more time. Cybercrime has escallated exponentially since 9/11. 'Bad guys' are stealing money on the Internet - lots of it! Terrorism requires huge amounts of money to be effective. My bet is that there are many 'bad guys' operating on the Internet (and probably within the Microsoft newsgroups too) whose role is to steal money - not simply to buy fast cars, women and drugs etc - but to fund the acts of terrorism which kill and maim thousands of people each year. I don't approve of that. The clever technical experts have been less than efficient at catching these murderers. Can you think of a better place to hide on the Internet than within groups which purport to be helping out ordinary folk with their computer problems? I can't. Those reading here will probably know that some 'helpers' fail to answer my simple and straight-forward queries. In my book, that is not the reaction I would expect from the 'good guys'. My hope is, truly, that the Police and/or Security Services monitor these messages and will concentrate their efforts by watching those who appear to be reacting suspiciously. HTH -- Dave Quote
Guest 1PW Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 On 01/31/2009 02:53 PM, ~BD~ sent: <span style="color:blue"> > Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, 1PW > and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this > group when others have simply blanked me. TIA > -- > Dave</span> Hello Dave: I don't intrude on your threads, do I Dave? :-) Although the Prevx folks have been on the scene for a little while now, ( I think I first noticed their wares in Mark Loman's Hitman Pro years ago ) they seem slower than most to come up to speed. Strictly talking about a UK product, Sophos, IMHO runs circles around Prevx. Here's hoping Prevx does much better in the future. Sorry Dave - I thought I heard my name... Pete -- 1PW @?6A62?FEH9:DE=6o2@=]4@> [r4o7t] Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> | I appreciate yout honesty on this occasion. Thank you, Mr Lipman. | I'll explain my thinking just one more time. Cybercrime has escallated | exponentially since 9/11. 'Bad guys' are stealing money on the | Internet - lots of it! | Terrorism requires huge amounts of money to be effective. My bet is that | there are many 'bad guys' operating on the Internet (and probably within | the Microsoft newsgroups too) whose role is to steal money - not simply | to buy fast cars, women and drugs etc - but to fund the acts of | terrorism which kill and maim thousands of people each year. I don't | approve of that. | The clever technical experts have been less than efficient at catching | these murderers. Can you think of a better place to hide on the Internet | than within groups which purport to be helping out ordinary folk with | their computer problems? I can't. | Those reading here will probably know that some 'helpers' fail to answer | my simple and straight-forward queries. In my book, that is not the | reaction I would expect from the 'good guys'. My hope is, truly, that | the Police and/or Security Services monitor these messages and will | concentrate their efforts by watching those who appear to be reacting | suspiciously. | HTH | -- | Dave This is one of the reasons you are considered a troll. Pure FUD and BS. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 In article <#iP4DZAhJHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > Terrorism requires huge amounts of money to be effective. My bet is that > there are many 'bad guys' operating on the Internet (and probably within > the Microsoft newsgroups too) whose role is to steal money - not simply > to buy fast cars, women and drugs etc - but to fund the acts of > terrorism which kill and maim thousands of people each year. I don't > approve of that. > </span> You're nuts BD. The crime is for personal gain and I'm going to bet that 99.9% of it has little to do with Terrorism as you would define it. That it has increased since 9/11 has noting to do with 9/11 or terrorism, it's increasing because it's so easy and so many fools fall for it. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 In article <#rG9fFAhJHA.5408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > > "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message > news:MPG.23eea559ce86558298989e@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:green"> > > In article <#Cq4za$gJHA.4868@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, > > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:darkred"> > >> > >> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message > >> news:MPG.23ee9b9e6e9bb21c98989d@us.news.astraweb.com... > >> > In article <uiaCeK$gJHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, > >> > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says... > >> >> How do you feel about contact by email? > >> >> > >> > > >> > What could we discuss that can't be discussed here - remember, I > >> > may > >> > not > >> > be what/who I appear to be. > >> > > >> > If we're going to talk security or such, we should keep it here so > >> > that > >> > others may benefit from our discussion and/or correct any mistakes > >> > we > >> > make so that we may learn from them also. > >> > >> I take on board what you say. Leythos and do understand your > >> position. > >> > >> Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, > >> 1PW > >> and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this > >> group when others have simply blanked me. TIA</span> > > > > I could only explain for myself - There are times when I think you're > > a > > troll, other times when I don't care, and then there are times when I > > answer regardless of what I think about the person. > > > > If you post interests me and I have time I respond - it's as simple as > > that. > ></span> > > > Regardless, I appreciate your help/advice - especially when I'm aware > that your action alienates you too. Thank you. style_emoticons/</span> LOL - Nothing I do or say alienates me in the groups, not any of them. People have different experiences, some very limited which they believe gives them an understanding that they could not possibly have. Others are hacks/trolls/pirates, don't really care to have any respect from them. <span style="color:blue"> > David H Lipman has said, categorically, that there are no 'bad guys' on > the Microsoft groups. IMO there is absolutely no way he could possible > know that to be true. > > What do you think?</span> You misunderstand him. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 "1PW" <barcrnahgjuvfgyr@nby.pbz> wrote in message news:gm2sig$1gg$1@nntp.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"> > On 01/31/2009 02:53 PM, ~BD~ sent: ><span style="color:green"> >> Perhaps you will explain why you (not forgetting Shenan Stanley, >> 1PW >> and to a degree, FromTheRafters) have had a dialogue with me in this >> group when others have simply blanked me. TIA >> -- >> Dave</span> > > Hello Dave: > > I don't intrude on your threads, do I Dave? :-) > > Although the Prevx folks have been on the scene for a little while > now, > ( I think I first noticed their wares in Mark Loman's Hitman Pro years > ago ) they seem slower than most to come up to speed. Strictly > talking > about a UK product, Sophos, IMHO runs circles around Prevx. Here's > hoping Prevx does much better in the future. > > Sorry Dave - I thought I heard my name... > > Pete > -- > 1PW @?6A62?FEH9:DE=6o2@=]4@> [r4o7t]</span> I enjoy it when you pop in, Pete. Hello again! style_emoticons/ You might be interested to know that I installed Prevx when it was first launched - early in 2005 I think. Hmmm. It wasn't long afterwards that £245 was fraudulently taken, in my name, from Paypal - asserting that I had bought a mobile 'phone through eBay! There couldn't have been any connection - could there?!!! <s> Dave PS I've still not decoded your siggy - any help/clues? Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 In line "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.23eed13e7d39ac4298989f@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <#iP4DZAhJHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, > BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:green"> >> Terrorism requires huge amounts of money to be effective. My bet is >> that >> there are many 'bad guys' operating on the Internet (and probably >> within >> the Microsoft newsgroups too) whose role is to steal money - not >> simply >> to buy fast cars, women and drugs etc - but to fund the acts of >> terrorism which kill and maim thousands of people each year. I don't >> approve of that. >></span> > > You're nuts BD. The crime is for personal gain and I'm going to bet > that > 99.9% of it has little to do with Terrorism as you would define it.</span> I'll go with being nuts! style_emoticons/ It does not, though, mean that I'm wrong about this! As I understand things, even 0.1% could well be $millions! (and your 'guesstimate' may well be inaccurate!) <span style="color:blue"> > That it has increased since 9/11 has noting to do with 9/11 or > terrorism, it's increasing because it's so easy and so many fools fall > for it.</span> I used 9/11 for effect. However, there is no denying that losses have dramatically increased over the last 6/7 years. An item of some interest, perhaps, here: http://complianceandprivacy.com/News-Cybercrime-vs-Drugs.asp <span style="color:blue"> > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) </span> Quote
Guest David H. Lipman Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> | I enjoy it when you pop in, Pete. Hello again! style_emoticons/ | You might be interested to know that I installed Prevx when it was first | launched - early in 2005 I think. | Hmmm. It wasn't long afterwards that £245 was fraudulently taken, in my | name, from Paypal - asserting that I had bought a mobile 'phone through | eBay! There couldn't have been any connection - could there?!!! <s> | Dave There is NO connection and stop making blind insinuations. You do that over and over and again that is why you are a deemed a troll. -- Dave http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 In article <OEz4hUHhJHA.3444@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk says...<span style="color:blue"> > there is no denying that losses have > dramatically increased over the last 6/7 years. > </span> You would do well to not visit the sites where people wearing metal for head covering write. The increase is because more and more people are only and doing online purchasing - the increase is directly related to the number of online people and the number of criminals that see them as easy targets. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message news:O2L$uVHhJHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> > > | I enjoy it when you pop in, Pete. Hello again! style_emoticons/ > > | You might be interested to know that I installed Prevx when it was > first > | launched - early in 2005 I think. > > | Hmmm. It wasn't long afterwards that £245 was fraudulently taken, in > my > | name, from Paypal - asserting that I had bought a mobile 'phone > through > | eBay! There couldn't have been any connection - could there?!!! <s> > > | Dave ></span> Did you ever have a sense of humour, David Lipman? <span style="color:blue"> > There is NO connection.</span> You say that as if you have absolute knowledge - but it is either a guess on your part ......... or you may, of course, be part of the problem. No-one can know for sure, can they? <span style="color:blue"> > You do that over and over and again that is why you are a deemed a > troll.</span> You may deem me whatever you wish. It will not stop me having an opinion ........ or voicing same. -- Dave Quote
Guest The Real Truth MVP Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 David lost his sense of humor a few years ago during his failed campaign to shut me down. it made him crazy and he still is. -- WARNING Do NOT follow any advise given by the people listed below. They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. Do not waste your time. David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:%23yostGIhJHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message > news:O2L$uVHhJHA.4572@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> From: "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> >> >> | I enjoy it when you pop in, Pete. Hello again! style_emoticons/ >> >> | You might be interested to know that I installed Prevx when it was >> first >> | launched - early in 2005 I think. >> >> | Hmmm. It wasn't long afterwards that £245 was fraudulently taken, in my >> | name, from Paypal - asserting that I had bought a mobile 'phone through >> | eBay! There couldn't have been any connection - could there?!!! <s> >> >> | Dave >></span> > > > Did you ever have a sense of humour, David Lipman? > ><span style="color:green"> >> There is NO connection.</span> > > > You say that as if you have absolute knowledge - but it is either a guess > on your part ......... or you may, of course, be part of the problem. > No-one can know for sure, can they? > ><span style="color:green"> >> You do that over and over and again that is why you are a deemed a troll.</span> > > > You may deem me whatever you wish. It will not stop me having an opinion > ....... or voicing same. > > -- > Dave > > </span> Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 1, 2009 Posted February 1, 2009 In article <666A61E4-1D58-465D-AD33-F772871D2509@microsoft.com>, not@real.atall says...<span style="color:blue"> > WARNING Do NOT follow any advise given by the people listed below. > They do NOT have the expertise or knowledge to fix your issue. > Do not waste your time. > David H Lipman, Malke, PA Bear, Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Leythos > </span> Do you really want me to start exposing you again. Your signature denotes that you're STALKING ME AGAIN Chris, do you really want to start that again? -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
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