Guest Sam Hobbs Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 "Addison Steele" <addisonsteele@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message news:atico49ug3151j8mkp61euu9prkdcb84a7@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:25:00 -0800, "Sam Hobbs" > <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>Then you should have made that clear.</span> > > It's is supremely difficult to make things clear for others when they > aren't clear in one's own mind.</span> To the extent that is true, it is unproductive to be critical. An alternative explanation is that some people are inexperienced in asking for help in groups and forums and therefore they are inexperienced at making a good question. So ideally they would apologize and become educated. That unfortunately is less likely to happen when people attack immediately as happened here instead of respectfully asking for clarification. Quote
Guest Addison Steele Posted February 2, 2009 Posted February 2, 2009 On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:53:37 -0800, "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >"Addison Steele" <addisonsteele@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message >news:atico49ug3151j8mkp61euu9prkdcb84a7@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:25:00 -0800, "Sam Hobbs" >> <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>Then you should have made that clear.</span> >> >> It's is supremely difficult to make things clear for others when they >> aren't clear in one's own mind.</span> > >To the extent that is true, it is unproductive to be critical.</span> I beg to differ. I am a firm believer in "Stupid should HURT". <span style="color:blue"> >An alternative explanation is that some people are inexperienced in asking >for help in groups and forums and therefore they are inexperienced at making >a good question. So ideally they would apologize and become educated. That >unfortunately is less likely to happen when people attack immediately as >happened here instead of respectfully asking for clarification. </span> Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 "Addison Steele" <addisonsteele@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message news:6v7eo41csc0k3iag7cs4ijaigglgt7ado2@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:53:37 -0800, "Sam Hobbs" > <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>"Addison Steele" <addisonsteele@yaSPAMhoo.com> wrote in message >>news:atico49ug3151j8mkp61euu9prkdcb84a7@4ax.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> On Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:25:00 -0800, "Sam Hobbs" >>> <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: >>> >>>>Then you should have made that clear. >>> >>> It's is supremely difficult to make things clear for others when they >>> aren't clear in one's own mind.</span> >> >>To the extent that is true, it is unproductive to be critical.</span> > > I beg to differ. I am a firm believer in "Stupid should HURT".</span> Except if hurt means dumping on others to inflict emotional pain then that is done for the purpose of emotional gratification of the person dumping but it is counter-productive with the goal of getting cooperation and is a huge problem in the world. Quote
Guest SuperXero Posted February 4, 2009 Posted February 4, 2009 Which administrator account? Vista has 2 different types of admin accounts. The Real one is disabled by default, so unless the user enabled it through computer management or the command line then they only have a regular account with administrative privileges. This is done to protect the end user. SuperXero 'HackingManual.Net' (http://HackingManual.Net) -- SuperXero Quote
Guest troylawson Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Hiyo everyone, I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place for my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial and error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 with a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there is a file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be nohing but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for that matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the Admin account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask my mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? Thanks, troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ -- troylawson Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 I think your question should be ignored; you are "hijacking" a thread that has grown immensely. People that are most serious about helping without making trouble will ignore this thread. Of course, I get the impression you just want to make trouble also, since you are not really asking a question. Yes, you can mess with your computer but don't expect someone here to fix it for you. You might get help here but just don't expect it. If you were to ask directions for getting somewhere and then you decided that there is a shortcut and they tell you there are landmines there and you say you have a right to go wherever you want to go then don't expect the others to run out and get you when you get blown up. For what it is worth, I still have an IBM PC XT 286. "troylawson" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:ceaffaef64b5b0816218bccd539f26ea@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > Hiyo everyone, > I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the > thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my > computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, > installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy > task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and > network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place for > my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial and > error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 with > a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there is a > file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an > American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be nohing > but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for that > matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the Admin > account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask my > mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? > Thanks, > troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ > > > -- > troylawson </span> Quote
Guest Chief Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 Sam Hobbs must be wearing his underwear too tight. I think it's a damm good question that needs an answer. I too would like to know how to have full admin permission. Would some non smart ass out there help us? "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message news:2AB48A2A-D59D-4ACE-95F6-2C17755DFE90@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I think your question should be ignored; you are "hijacking" a thread that >has grown immensely. People that are most serious about helping without >making trouble will ignore this thread. Of course, I get the impression you >just want to make trouble also, since you are not really asking a question. > > Yes, you can mess with your computer but don't expect someone here to fix > it for you. You might get help here but just don't expect it. > > If you were to ask directions for getting somewhere and then you decided > that there is a shortcut and they tell you there are landmines there and > you say you have a right to go wherever you want to go then don't expect > the others to run out and get you when you get blown up. > > For what it is worth, I still have an IBM PC XT 286. > > > > "troylawson" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message > news:ceaffaef64b5b0816218bccd539f26ea@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:green"> >> >> Hiyo everyone, >> I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the >> thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my >> computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, >> installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy >> task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and >> network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place for >> my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial and >> error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 with >> a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there is a >> file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an >> American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be nohing >> but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for that >> matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the Admin >> account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask my >> mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? >> Thanks, >> troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ >> >> >> -- >> troylawson</span> > </span> Quote
Guest omalakas Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 This is not possible with Microsoft Vista and 7 or Linux (yes we have to enter credentials in Linux and Unix for decades now in order to do administrative tasks and no one complains), but if you insist, you have some options. You can enable the default "Administrator" account (disabled by default) and then login with this account, free to open a backdoor for every malware out there ... Another option but not as exciting is to disable the UAC, again you are free to create a small disaster even by mistake... And for the boring ones, just use the runas command, but this is safe and will not make you feel the power of Administrator or the excitement of be the "King of PC" ... "Chief" <chief1@duo-county.com> wrote in message news:E68A6B53-A834-4151-B72D-A08035D015F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Sam Hobbs must be wearing his underwear too tight. I think it's a damm > good question that needs an answer. I too would like to know how to have > full admin permission. Would some non smart ass out there help us? > > > "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message > news:2AB48A2A-D59D-4ACE-95F6-2C17755DFE90@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I think your question should be ignored; you are "hijacking" a thread that >>has grown immensely. People that are most serious about helping without >>making trouble will ignore this thread. Of course, I get the impression >>you just want to make trouble also, since you are not really asking a >>question. >> >> Yes, you can mess with your computer but don't expect someone here to fix >> it for you. You might get help here but just don't expect it. >> >> If you were to ask directions for getting somewhere and then you decided >> that there is a shortcut and they tell you there are landmines there and >> you say you have a right to go wherever you want to go then don't expect >> the others to run out and get you when you get blown up. >> >> For what it is worth, I still have an IBM PC XT 286. >> >> >> >> "troylawson" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message >> news:ceaffaef64b5b0816218bccd539f26ea@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> Hiyo everyone, >>> I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the >>> thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my >>> computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, >>> installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy >>> task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and >>> network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place for >>> my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial and >>> error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 with >>> a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there is a >>> file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an >>> American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be nohing >>> but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for that >>> matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the Admin >>> account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask my >>> mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? >>> Thanks, >>> troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> troylawson</span> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 Enable the so-called "real" or "hidden" 'Administrator' account and use that. Still not all powerful, but more like XPs. "Chief" <chief1@duo-county.com> wrote in message news:E68A6B53-A834-4151-B72D-A08035D015F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Sam Hobbs must be wearing his underwear too tight. I think it's a damm > good question that needs an answer. I too would like to know how to > have full admin permission. Would some non smart ass out there help > us? > > > "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message > news:2AB48A2A-D59D-4ACE-95F6-2C17755DFE90@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I think your question should be ignored; you are "hijacking" a thread >>that has grown immensely. People that are most serious about helping >>without making trouble will ignore this thread. Of course, I get the >>impression you just want to make trouble also, since you are not >>really asking a question. >> >> Yes, you can mess with your computer but don't expect someone here to >> fix it for you. You might get help here but just don't expect it. >> >> If you were to ask directions for getting somewhere and then you >> decided that there is a shortcut and they tell you there are >> landmines there and you say you have a right to go wherever you want >> to go then don't expect the others to run out and get you when you >> get blown up. >> >> For what it is worth, I still have an IBM PC XT 286. >> >> >> >> "troylawson" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message >> news:ceaffaef64b5b0816218bccd539f26ea@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> Hiyo everyone, >>> I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the >>> thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my >>> computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, >>> installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy >>> task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and >>> network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place >>> for >>> my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial >>> and >>> error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 >>> with >>> a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there >>> is a >>> file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an >>> American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be >>> nohing >>> but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for >>> that >>> matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the >>> Admin >>> account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask >>> my >>> mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? >>> Thanks, >>> troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> troylawson</span> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 4, 2009 Posted April 4, 2009 First, if the question was asked in a new thread, it would have gotten more answers. You might disagree, but it is not an opinion; it is a fact. Second, if the question were just a question asking for help, instead of being a dump of emotions, then it would have gotten answers. Third, if the question was specific, it would have gotten answers. Finally, if it asked about a specific problem that needed a solution, and if anyone knows the solution, it would be answered. Instead, the question asked for help with a solution to an unspecified problem. "Chief" <chief1@duo-county.com> wrote in message news:E68A6B53-A834-4151-B72D-A08035D015F6@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Sam Hobbs must be wearing his underwear too tight. I think it's a damm > good question that needs an answer. I too would like to know how to have > full admin permission. Would some non smart ass out there help us? > > > "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message > news:2AB48A2A-D59D-4ACE-95F6-2C17755DFE90@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >>I think your question should be ignored; you are "hijacking" a thread that >>has grown immensely. People that are most serious about helping without >>making trouble will ignore this thread. Of course, I get the impression >>you just want to make trouble also, since you are not really asking a >>question. >> >> Yes, you can mess with your computer but don't expect someone here to fix >> it for you. You might get help here but just don't expect it. >> >> If you were to ask directions for getting somewhere and then you decided >> that there is a shortcut and they tell you there are landmines there and >> you say you have a right to go wherever you want to go then don't expect >> the others to run out and get you when you get blown up. >> >> For what it is worth, I still have an IBM PC XT 286. >> >> >> >> "troylawson" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message >> news:ceaffaef64b5b0816218bccd539f26ea@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> Hiyo everyone, >>> I am a noobie to Vista Forums(Yea!). I have been reading the >>> thread and I had a question related to permissions. If I made my >>> computer(Assembled it really) and it was not pulled off any shelf, >>> installed all the apps including Vista Home Premium 64-bit(No easy >>> task), living alone if I'm not the Administrator of my system and >>> network who is? I realize I am no expert and there things in place for >>> my protection. What I've learned about computers, I learned trial and >>> error with lots of error. But I have had computers since the 80286 with >>> a Herc graphics card, and monochrome monitor. I feel that if there is a >>> file I want to delete, then by golly it's my God-given right as an >>> American U.S. Navy Vet of the 1st Gulf War, and there should be nohing >>> but fear standing in the way, not even Bill Gates or Microsoft for that >>> matter. How can I get the full hidden Admin permission? I have the Admin >>> account. I feel like everytime I want to do something I have to ask my >>> mother's permission. It's my computer for gosh sakes. Any insight? >>> Thanks, >>> troylawson :geek:style_emoticons/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> troylawson</span> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Oliver Costich Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:18:26 -0600, SuperXero <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > >The real administrator account doesn't get told no.</span> Not true in my case. I have enabled the hidden administrator account and It's there beacuse I can log in to it. I have a couple of files not related to the system (not even on the boot drive) that won't go away. I have checked that there is full control access and still get "You need permission to perform this action" when I try to delete them. Any suggestions about how to lose these would be appreciated. Quote
Guest jonathanboon Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 I am the administrator for a company and have recently changed the permissions on a number of folders containing images. As soon as I had changed the permissions people who I had kept as full access users were unable to gain access and myself as administrator were locked out. When I went to change the permissions back, all of the permissions names had disappeared and it took me ages even using the server itself to get back in.. Any ideas why they have disappeared and how to get them back without going through thousands of files? Cheers Jonathan:confused: -- jonathanboon Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 20, 2009 Posted April 20, 2009 You are more likely to get the best answers if you create a new thread. "jonathanboon" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message news:26d734ebb23f503ec6afd8f8df33185c@nntp-gateway.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > I am the administrator for a company and have recently changed the > permissions on a number of folders containing images. As soon as I had > changed the permissions people who I had kept as full access users were > unable to gain access and myself as administrator were locked out. > > When I went to change the permissions back, all of the permissions > names had disappeared and it took me ages even using the server itself > to get back in.. > > Any ideas why they have disappeared and how to get them back without > going through thousands of files? > > Cheers Jonathan:confused: > > > -- > jonathanboon </span> Quote
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