Guest Leythos Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 In article <4F861E55-67B9-4975-A69A-0C5BA6C624EA@microsoft.com>, =?iso- 8859-1?Q?_db_=B4=AF`=B7.._=3E=3C=29=29=29=BA=3E`_.._.?= <databaseben at hotmail dot com> says...<span style="color:blue"> > and people seeking help with their > computers and don't give a damn > about the grudges or gossips. > </span> You are wrong, some people will not support a dishonest and unethical person, others, like you, that are of the same level of morals don't care. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 In article <CA1ml.13873$as4.771@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, toidi@tpap.com says...<span style="color:blue"> > I have to piggyback on your posts DB because SBC filters/Blocks posts made > by Leythos and I do not see them unless quoted. > > All US hosting company are required by law to comply with the DMCA. They > don't protect me or anyone else. When a complaint is filed the website is > immediately shutdown. Shutdown first ask questions later. They all follow > that. My case was no different except the fact that I knew exactly when it > happened because I was on it. The only way they turned it back on was when I > removed the link to download the software. That is the law. I was then > required to file an answer to the complaint and provide proof of ownership > of the software in question which I did. Once I removed the link my ISP then > contacted the lying trollcomplainant and informed them that the link has > been removed, that I have disputed their claim and that they have 14 days to > formally file a complaint and to provide proof of an infringement. If > nothing is done in that 2 week period the it is closed. They are then > required to produce a court order to enforce their complaint. If the > complainant give my ISP proof then it is examined by the legal team at my > ISP and a determination is made on who is right. If no determination can be > made then they require a court order. After 14 days the takedown is lifted. > In my case my site was down for less then an hour and went unnoticed because > I removed the link. I provided proof, they tried, I won. The second DMCA > filed on me they didn't even bother to provide proof. The third time my ISP > knew it was just harassment and did nothing. Now anyone who tries will get > nowhere. > > Ask David how come he was not able to provide proof that his stolen software > was actually his and save his friends website like I was able to do with > mine. That BS excuse he gave about not being a citizen is just that--BS. He > knows he stole it he also knew the a DMCA is a USA law so he put his stolen > Multi-avi up on a foreign site where it will be safe. That is the "Real > Truth"</span> Not factually correct - your site provider only required that you dispute the claim against you, and you did, without proof, and they then require a legal judgment or court order before they will take additional action. You might want to check your lies about SBC stripping my posts, they clearly show up on SBC Usenet servers. They have never blocked USENET posts from me at any time - you need to learn that your Kill Filter has nothing to do with SBC. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest db ?¯`·.. > Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 if the material is offensive or illegal, like making terrorist threats, threatening some ones life or threats to the president, no court order is needed to remove the information. no court order is needed to make the hosting company forward your data to the feds as well, especially if the hosting company freely provides it as allowed under the terms of their agreements with the poster. if you think you have civil rights by posting information on some ones else's server, then think again because they have rights as well. you would see that all the terms and conditions that you have supposedly read and agreed to, are all weighed in favor of the company. in fact one gives up many rights when they agree to the terms and conditions provided by any company, including hosting websites. ---------------- db·?¯`·...?><)))º> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional - Systems Analyst - Database Developer - Accountancy - Veteran of the Armed Forces "share the nirvana" - dbZen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<span style="color:blue"> > ></span> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.240278478b8f35f2989925@us.news.astraweb.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In article <3D704482-DECC-4C59-95E2-991AC7250DC0@microsoft.com>, =?iso- > 8859-15?Q?_db_=3F=AF`=B7.._=3E=3C=29=29=29=BA=3E`_.._.?= <databaseben at > hotmail dot com> says...<span style="color:green"> >> I don't know why you think >> private companies that >> offer a service is bound >> by court orders to keep >> or remove any information >> posted on their private >> equipment.</span> > > You don't know why a "Private company" would follow the law? ><span style="color:green"> >> any company can remove >> any information at will, >> especially information posted >> based of "free"</span> > > Yes, they can, but once they start doing this based on "Their" standard > it opens them to legal issues where they can be sued for NOT applying > their own rules equally to all hosted sites. > > So, again, the company follows a simple set of rules: > > 1) Allow anyone to host anything > 2) If a complaint is made against a site owner, ask site owner if they > want to dispute complaint > 3) If site owner disputes complaint, take no action without a court > order. ><span style="color:green"> >> you should read the terms >> and conditions.</span> > > I clearly have read them, event talked with the company representatives > - you should try it yourself. ><span style="color:green"> >> many things that are considered >> illegal or offensive have lone been >> determined many years ago >> by courts already, >> >> thus your belief that court >> orders are necessary to act >> in accordance with the law >> is unfounded.</span> > > Nope, that's not true - unless it crosses previously defined legal > boundaries, like Child Porn, many filthy and pornographically offensive > materials can remain on a site. ><span style="color:green"> >> further, the companies are >> legally bound to report illegal >> information to the feds.</span> > > Only IF they know it to be illegal. ><span style="color:green"> >> again, no court order is >> required to mandate each >> occurrence and violation.</span> > > No, except that this hosting provide requires one in order to take > action. ><span style="color:green"> >> >> ----------------------- >> >> you seem to be amicable >> to child molesting.</span> > > Ah, now you're trolling and making an ass of yourself. ><span style="color:green"> >> therefore, I encourage you >> to post child porn and lets >> see if a court order is required >> to remove your offensive >> garbage from the servers >> and lets see if your personal >> data is kept confidential from >> the feds.</span> > > And now your trolling for sure. ><span style="color:green"> >> you must be living and posting >> from the Netherlands.</span> > > And again. > > -- > - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. > - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a > drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" > spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) </span> Quote
Guest Leythos Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 In article <7D747B78-C6F4-4D1E-9F1E-63261E015C80@microsoft.com>, =?iso- 8859-15?Q?_db_=3F=AF`=B7.._=3E=3C=29=29=29=BA=3E`_.._.?= <databaseben at hotmail dot com> says...<span style="color:blue"> > you would see that all the > terms and conditions that > you have supposedly read > and agreed to, are all weighed > in favor of the company. > > in fact one gives up many > rights when they agree to > the terms and conditions > provided by any company, > including hosting websites. > </span> Which does not change or dispute anything I've posted in this thread. Your attempted diversion in the thread is noted and will be remembered. -- - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist" spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest John Eddy Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 On Feb 14, 12:23 pm, db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. . <databaseben at hotmail dot com> wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > the ms mvp administrators would > have intervened, including > blocking pcb's ip.</span> Speaking as the 4 years removed newsgroups admin, and one who did block PCButts from the Microsoft NNTP server: a) The MVP Administrators are not related to what gets blocked from the newsgroups. They may make requests, but that's as far as that went. style_emoticons/ Don't believe anything anyone says with regards to me getting in trouble for blocking anyone. Never happened. The only reason I'm not doing the job anymore is that I was laid off, pure and simple. Outsourced. Quote
Guest Max Wachtel Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 The Real Truth MVP, after much thought, came up with this jewel:<span style="color:blue"> > No I was not in that accident but I lost friends who were. I witnessed > it, It was my vanpool but I was late and missed it so I ended up > following it through the mountains in my own car. > </span> But, but you said (in 24hrHD) that in the picture of the crash it was you being pulled out! Sort of 'she said, he said, would you believe'. I don't think you would know "The Real Truth" if it walked up and bit you. -- Virus Removal http://max.shplink.com/removal.html Keep Clean http://max.shplink.com/keepingclean.html Change nomail.afraid.org to gmail.com to reply by email. nomail.afraid.org is specifically setup for use in USENET Quote
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