Guest Virus Guy Posted March 15, 2009 Posted March 15, 2009 What's in a Name? wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> > > Here's the link for the BBC iPlayer facility: > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jc...ick_14_03_2009/</span> > > some of us are not in the UK... > "Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK > only"</span> ------------------ Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you. Why? Can I use BBC iPlayer outside the UK? Rights agreements mean that BBC iPlayer television programmes are only available to users to download or stream (Click to Play) in the UK. However, we are aware of demand for an international version. Most radio programmes are available outside the UK in addition to podcasts, although sporting and other programmes may be subject to rights agreements. In addition, many BBC News programmes are available for viewers outside the UK, as are BBC Sport highlights. Do make sure you check for the latest updates on BBC iPlayer or contact your own country's broadcasters to find out if they offer a similar service to BBC iPlayer. Did this answer your question? Yes, this did answer my question -> No, and I want to comment on how you can improve it No, can you help me? Provide feedback on this answer: "Can I use BBC iPlayer outside the UK?" If this did not answer your question, please advise what information you would expect to be provided. We cannot provide responses to your comments, but you do have the following options to: Visit the BBC iPlayer homepage Go to the BBC iPlayer messageboard to discuss this or any other issue -> Ask a question Return to bbc.co.uk Contact us if you require further assistance Question: I don't know what the "BBC iPlayer" is. So I don't know if I, being in (some other country), do not have the right to use the "BBC iPlayer", or if I do not have the right to view the specific material or content. If the latter, please explain why I, being in (some other country), would not have the right to view the material or content. Is it because some other entity in (some other country) has the rights to broadcast or distribute this content? If so, who is this entity? If not, then who's rights would be violated if you allowed me to view this material? Bogus name, A city in Some other Country utility_email_address_#3-at-yahoo.com Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message news:49BD0E11.F7D8EDC8@Guy.com...<span style="color:blue"> > What's in a Name? wrote: ><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> > Here's the link for the BBC iPlayer facility: >> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jc...ick_14_03_2009/</span> >> >> some of us are not in the UK... >> "Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK >> only"</span> > > ------------------ > Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK > only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you. Why? > > Can I use BBC iPlayer outside the UK? > > Rights agreements mean that BBC iPlayer television programmes are only > available to users to download or stream (Click to Play) in the UK. > However, we are aware of demand for an international version. ></span> Unless you have an IP spoofing program. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Andrew Taylor wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message > news:49BD0E11.F7D8EDC8@Guy.com...<span style="color:green"> >> What's in a Name? wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>> Here's the link for the BBC iPlayer facility: >>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jc...ick_14_03_2009/ >>> some of us are not in the UK... >>> "Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK >>> only"</span> >> ------------------ >> Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK >> only, but all BBC iPlayer Radio programmes are available to you. Why? >> >> Can I use BBC iPlayer outside the UK? >> >> Rights agreements mean that BBC iPlayer television programmes are only >> available to users to download or stream (Click to Play) in the UK. >> However, we are aware of demand for an international version. >></span> > Unless you have an IP spoofing program. > > </span> Can you watch that programme, Andrew? Quote: However, the technique does not allow for anonymous Internet access, which is a common misconception for those unfamiliar with the practice. See: Misconceptions of IP Spoofing, here: http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1674 Quote
Guest Virus Guy Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 ~BD~ wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > >> Rights agreements mean that BBC iPlayer television programmes > >> are only available to users to download or stream (Click to > >> Play) in the UK. However, we are aware of demand for an > >> international version.</span></span></span> <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> > > Unless you have an IP spoofing program.</span> > > Can you watch that programme, Andrew?</span> Any attempt to view or retrieve content from the net by spoofing your IP address will result in that content being transmitted to the spoofed address, which naturally is not your address so that material won't reach you. Trying to get that material by using a proxy is the only solution. And I still don't understand what "rights" issue is regarding this BBC thing. Is it that 1) the iPlayer software they provide is only licensed for use on PC's in the UK? or 2) Is the BBC content material that is only licensed to be viewed on PC's within the UK? If (1) then why does the BBC choose to use that rights-crippled method of content delivery, when they could have chosen another form of multimedia format? If (2) then what other entity has the rights to the material outside the UK? I suspect that the real answer is that the BBC does not want to "waste" bandwidth on people that want to watch their content who reside outside the UK, and they give a bogus explanation that the reason has something to do with copyright or similar. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Malware and Botnets If you were unable to view the BBC programme using iPlayer, you may be able to watch extracts here: http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/03/1...otnet-send-spam HTH -- Dave Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:gpkv0e$6c9$1@nntp.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"> > > Can you watch that programme, Andrew? > > Quote: > > However, the technique does not allow for anonymous Internet access, > which is a common misconception for those unfamiliar with the practice. > > See: Misconceptions of IP Spoofing, here: > http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1674</span> The program my friend uses shows a map, you click on it and your IP is adjusted to an IP address from that country. It isn't 'anonymous'. Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message news:49BE5801.DE30BA6B@Guy.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > And I still don't understand what "rights" issue is regarding this BBC > thing. > > Is it that > > 1) the iPlayer software they provide is only licensed for use on > PC's in the UK? or > > 2) Is the BBC content material that is only licensed to be viewed > on PC's within the UK? > > If (1) then why does the BBC choose to use that rights-crippled method > of content delivery, when they could have chosen another form of > multimedia format? > > If (2) then what other entity has the rights to the material outside the > UK? > > I suspect that the real answer is that the BBC does not want to "waste" > bandwidth on people that want to watch their content who reside outside > the UK, and they give a bogus explanation that the reason has something > to do with copyright or similar.</span> It is basically number 2 except is it television content, that is also viewed on a PC. The BBC is a government operated corporation/business and content is paid for by a compulsory system whereby ANYONE who owns a television receiver has to pay a license fee, of around £125.00 per year. If you don't pay it you end up in court and they have detector vans roaming the streets pinpointing those who don't have a license. In reality, they expect every household in the UK to have at least one television, so they just sit outside houses that don't have a license. The detector vans can pinpoint the room the television is in and also tell you what programme you are watching. Basically, if you haven't paid for your UK television license, you can't view content of television programmes online. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Andrew Taylor wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:gpkv0e$6c9$1@nntp.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green"> >> Can you watch that programme, Andrew? >> >> Quote: >> >> However, the technique does not allow for anonymous Internet access, >> which is a common misconception for those unfamiliar with the practice. >> >> See: Misconceptions of IP Spoofing, here: >> http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1674</span> > > The program my friend uses shows a map, you click on it and your IP is > adjusted to an IP address from that country. It isn't 'anonymous'. > > </span> Two things! Did you get to watch the programme? Are you going to tell us more about your 'friend's' programme? I'm sure others would be interested! style_emoticons/ Quote
Guest Virus Guy Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Andrew Taylor wrote: <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> > > And I still don't understand what "rights" issue is regarding this > > BBC thing.</span> > > It is basically number 2 except is it television content, that is also > viewed on a PC. </span> When you're prevented from viewing something, and the reason is some sort of rights infringement, that means someone else has the rights to distribute or broadcast the material in the country you are in. What entity could possibly have purchased the rights for the BBC web-cast material in question outside the UK? <span style="color:blue"> > The BBC is a government operated corporation/business and content > is paid for by a compulsory system whereby ANYONE who owns a television > receiver has to pay a license fee, of around £125.00 per year.</span> But if I'm in the UK, and don't have a TV, but I do have an internet connection and a computer, then explain how (or why) I'm allowed to use the Iplayer and view the BBC material - seemingly without paying any television license fee? <span style="color:blue"> > Basically, if you haven't paid for your UK television license, you > can't view content of television programmes online.</span> How do they know that someone viewing the material on-line in the UK has also paid their TV license fee - or how do the know if you have a television in the first place? Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:gpn1n4$92r$1@nntp.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >></span> > > Two things! > > Did you get to watch the programme?</span> No, two things. 1. No time 2. No IP spoofing program<span style="color:blue"> > > Are you going to tell us more about your 'friend's' programme? I'm sure > others would be interested! style_emoticons/</span> He is a part time chef at work and he brought his laptop computer into the kitchen 2 weeks ago. I remember him showing me the program, but not the name of it. I will try and remember to ask him today as he is working from 4 - 7 for St Patricks Day bookings. Quote
Guest Andrew Taylor Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 "Virus Guy" <Virus@Guy.com> wrote in message news:49BF0C2C.C926944C@Guy.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Andrew Taylor wrote: ><span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> >> > And I still don't understand what "rights" issue is regarding this >> > BBC thing.</span> >> >> It is basically number 2 except is it television content, that is also >> viewed on a PC.</span> > > When you're prevented from viewing something, and the reason is some > sort of rights infringement, that means someone else has the rights to > distribute or broadcast the material in the country you are in.</span> OK, BBC = British Broadcasting Corporation, the biggest in the UK and the only one own by the Government. No-one else has the rights, only them and why they only allow people in the UK (Britain) to view. No other countries allowed.<span style="color:blue"> > > What entity could possibly have purchased the rights for the BBC > web-cast material in question outside the UK? ><span style="color:green"> >> The BBC is a government operated corporation/business and content >> is paid for by a compulsory system whereby ANYONE who owns a television >> receiver has to pay a license fee, of around £125.00 per year.</span> > > But if I'm in the UK, and don't have a TV, but I do have an internet > connection and a computer, then explain how (or why) I'm allowed to use > the Iplayer and view the BBC material - seemingly without paying any > television license fee?</span> As I said, they assume EVERYONE in the UK has a television licence and that is pretty much true. There are only 5 television channels transmitted over air by transmitters as opposed to satellite. The Channels are BBC1, BBC1, Independent Television (ITV - regional), Channel 4, and Channel 5. The two BBC channels do not carry advertising and therefore derive income via the license fee. The license fee allows you to watch BBC1 and BBC2, the others are not included in the license, but, there is no such thing as a selective television tuner that will only show you the 'free' channels. Various people have tried every trick in the books to fight court cases to avoid having a license, but none have won. I remember one case where a television was only used (in the defendants words, 'for the kid to play his Atari game'. This was ruled inadmissable as the TV had a tuner and they could have watched BBC television programs if they wanted.<span style="color:blue"> ><span style="color:green"> >> Basically, if you haven't paid for your UK television license, you >> can't view content of television programmes online.</span> > > How do they know that someone viewing the material on-line in the UK has > also paid their TV license fee - or how do the know if you have a > television in the first place?</span> Everyone in the UK has a television, everyone pays the license fee, they (the BBC) know which ones haven't paid their licence fee and will be receiving a visit from the detector van shortly. When you buy a new television from a retailer, the retailer informs the Television Licensing Authority (another guvvmint outfit) that you have a new Sony 43" plasma and gives them your address. They check the records, and if no license registered, you get a letter suggesting you don't have a license and that they know you have purchased a new television. Yes, it's Big Brother post 1984. Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted March 17, 2009 Posted March 17, 2009 Andrew Taylor wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:gpn1n4$92r$1@nntp.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green"> >> Two things! >> >> Did you get to watch the programme?</span> > > No, two things. > 1. No time</span> That's sad! style_emoticons/ <span style="color:blue"> > 2. No IP spoofing program</span> You may be able to watch extracts here: http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/03/1...otnet-send-spam <span style="color:blue"><span style="color:green"> >> Are you going to tell us more about your 'friend's' programme? I'm sure >> others would be interested! style_emoticons/</span> > > He is a part time chef at work and he brought his laptop computer into the > kitchen 2 weeks ago. I remember him showing me the program, but not the name > of it. I will try and remember to ask him today as he is working from 4 - 7 > for St Patricks Day bookings. > > </span> I'll watch out for your resulting follow-up Andrew! Ah, t'be sure, 'twill be busy t'day! style_emoticons/ Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Has anyone watched this? Just curious! -- Dave "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:OgYLy$kpJHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > If you were unable to view the BBC programme using iPlayer, you may be > able to watch extracts here: > http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/03/1...otnet-send-spam > > HTH > -- > Dave > > > </span> Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 An email message received from a friend today says:- "Know anyone who's a Mac user?" "Then let them know that malware researchers have discovered what appears to be the first Mac OSX botnet, aka MacBot or iBotnet and its receiving a substantial amount of industry and media interest. Early estimates suggest that thousands of people have unknowingly downloaded the infected files. Don't let yourself be one of them... In a nutshell the botnet is launching a number of malware variants inside pirated copies of popular Mac based software in order to take control of the infected Mac machine. First and foremost make sure that you and your fellow Mac users, exercise caution, have Mac specific security software installed and that your existing version of iAntiVirus is up to date - there's a free version or you can purchase a version with full functionality and support for only $29.95. It's also vital that you enable and install the latest Mac security updates". Regards PC Tools Team http://www.iantivirus.com/ Quote
Guest jen Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:gsevgo$4rf$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:blue"> > An email message received from a friend today says:- > "Know anyone who's a Mac user?" > "Then let them know that malware researchers have discovered what > appears to be the first Mac OSX botnet, aka MacBot or iBotnet and its > receiving a substantial amount of industry and media interest. > Early estimates suggest that thousands of people have unknowingly > downloaded the infected files. Don't let yourself be one of them... > In a nutshell the botnet is launching a number of malware variants > inside pirated copies of popular Mac based software in order to take > control of the infected Mac machine. > First and foremost make sure that you and your fellow Mac users, > exercise caution, have Mac specific security software installed and > that your existing version of iAntiVirus is up to date - there's a > free version or you can purchase a version with full functionality and > support for only $29.95. > It's also vital that you enable and install the latest Mac security > updates". > Regards > PC Tools Team > http://www.iantivirus.com/</span> Multiple Vulnerabilities in iAntiVirus: http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/501649/30/0/threaded -jen Quote
Guest Virus Guy Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 ~BD~ wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > In a nutshell the botnet is launching a number of malware variants > inside pirated copies of popular Mac based software</span> Pirated software? Apple / Mac? And here I thought the Mac world was this utopian, perfect ecosystem where everything (except the hardware) is free. ---------- And why was this cross-posted to microsoft.public.test.here? And paradoxically, only to microsoft. groups? Not to any Mac or general malware groups? Quote
Guest ~BD~ Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 jen wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > "~BD~" <BoaterDave@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message > news:gsevgo$4rf$1@news.motzarella.org...<span style="color:green"> >> An email message received from a friend today says:- >> "Know anyone who's a Mac user?" >> "Then let them know that malware researchers have discovered what >> appears to be the first Mac OSX botnet, aka MacBot or iBotnet and its >> receiving a substantial amount of industry and media interest. >> Early estimates suggest that thousands of people have unknowingly >> downloaded the infected files. Don't let yourself be one of them... >> In a nutshell the botnet is launching a number of malware variants >> inside pirated copies of popular Mac based software in order to take >> control of the infected Mac machine. >> First and foremost make sure that you and your fellow Mac users, >> exercise caution, have Mac specific security software installed and >> that your existing version of iAntiVirus is up to date - there's a >> free version or you can purchase a version with full functionality and >> support for only $29.95. >> It's also vital that you enable and install the latest Mac security >> updates". >> Regards >> PC Tools Team >> http://www.iantivirus.com/</span> > > Multiple Vulnerabilities in iAntiVirus: > http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/501649/30/0/threaded > > -jen > > </span> Thank you, '-jen'. Read with interest! In your view, which (if any) anti-malware programmes are suitable for use with a Mac? I know a number of people using a Mac now but none uses any 'protection' at all. -- Dave Quote
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