Guest Zygy Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for Malware and to check the settings. How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) Do I need any other software for protection? Quote
Guest Richard G. Harper Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 This can happen if your selected malware/antivirus program is in the process of updating and shuts itself down during the update process. If this is the cause you would most likely notice it soon after you start the computer and/or when the program is updating itself. If it happens only occasionally and sporadically then it's almost certainly no cause for worry. "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uAxJy#nuJHA.5452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but > the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for > Malware and to check the settings. > How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) > Do I need any other software for protection? </span> Quote
Guest Zygy Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 Thank you for the reply. You are probably right because the warning disappears when the computer is restarted. "Richard G. Harper" <rgharper@email.com> wrote in message news:734F6C28-4A92-49BF-870C-63FA3628B0D2@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > This can happen if your selected malware/antivirus program is in the > process of updating and shuts itself down during the update process. If > this is the cause you would most likely notice it soon after you start the > computer and/or when the program is updating itself. If it happens only > occasionally and sporadically then it's almost certainly no cause for > worry. > > "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uAxJy#nuJHA.5452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but >> the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for >> Malware and to check the settings. >> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >> Do I need any other software for protection?</span> > </span> Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 Look at "Control Panel | Security Center"; I think that is what you are asking about. If it is, then have a look at all the many other things in the Control Panel, so you know what is there. "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uAxJy%23nuJHA.5452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> >I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but >the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for >Malware and to check the settings. > How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) > Do I need any other software for protection? </span> Quote
Guest Zygy Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 You know that a click on the warning icon produces the Security Centre, so there is no need to go through the Control Panel, but you do not say how to check the settings! What help is that? "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message news:F6A570C8-C438-46F6-98CE-44FFBC681F6B@microsoft.com...<span style="color:blue"> > Look at "Control Panel | Security Center"; I think that is what you are > asking about. If it is, then have a look at all the many other things in > the Control Panel, so you know what is there. > > > "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:uAxJy%23nuJHA.5452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >>I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but >>the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for >>Malware and to check the settings. >> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >> Do I need any other software for protection?</span> > </span> Quote
Guest Hank Arnold (MVP) Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Zygy wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but > the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for > Malware and to check the settings. > How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) > Do I need any other software for protection?</span> Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the desktop? Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to get you to go to a web site and buy some protection. Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software firewall? -- Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 You know I am just trying to help. Criticizing someone trying to help won't accomplish anything. The quality of answers often depend on the quality of the question. "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:uCBk8X0uJHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > You know that a click on the warning icon produces the Security Centre, so > there is no need to go through the Control Panel, but you do not say how > to check the settings! What help is that? > "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote in message > news:F6A570C8-C438-46F6-98CE-44FFBC681F6B@microsoft.com...<span style="color:green"> >> Look at "Control Panel | Security Center"; I think that is what you are >> asking about. If it is, then have a look at all the many other things in >> the Control Panel, so you know what is there. >> >> >> "Zygy" <zygy@microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:uAxJy%23nuJHA.5452@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>>I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but >>>the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for >>>Malware and to check the settings. >>> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >>> Do I need any other software for protection?</span> >></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Zygy Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Hi Hank, thank you for the interest. The warning appears as a small red icon on the right side of the taskbar with a notice above it stating that there is no protection against Malware and that I should check the settings. When I click on the message I get the Security Center showing that there is no protection against Malware. I do not know how to proceed further to check the settings and activate the Malware protection. The AVG Anti-virus is updated hourly and running all the time and during the Malware incidents does not show any threats. I checked. The only Firewall I have is the Vista one. Microsoft assure us that it is impenetrable and one does not require another one. Over to you Hank. "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message news:uYjmWy0uJHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Zygy wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but >> the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for >> Malware and to check the settings. >> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >> Do I need any other software for protection?</span> > > Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the desktop? > Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to get you to go to > a web site and buy some protection. > > Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software firewall? > > -- > > Regards, > Hank Arnold > Microsoft MVP > Windows Server - Directory Services > http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ </span> Quote
Guest Hank Arnold (MVP) Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 First off, let's address the firewall issue. No firewall is "impenetrable".... period. Some are better than others. There are many who will say that the Vista firewall is all you need. I'm not there, yet, but it is significantly better than the XP one. It is still considered by everyone whose opinion matters to me an "adequate" firewall. Combined with a router w/ a hardware firewall and "Safe computing" is it is, IMNSHO, sufficient for the average home user. There are much better firewalls out there, but reality is that they are so intrusive and cryptic, that the average user simply turns them off or answers "Yes" to every prompt... I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it supposed to protect against Malware? I use NOD32 (from ESET) and it does, in fact, show up in the Security Center. You can download a 30 day trial version of NOD32. See if it works. I usually recommend it to folks who ask. It costs about $60, but, IMNSHO, worth every penny. Stay away from the ESET Security Suite, though. Many of us are very unhappy with the firewall function. If ESET does, in fact, show up in the Security Center, it means that your AVG software doesn't have any malware protection... BTW, a great uninstall program is "Revo Uninstaller". It not only runs the program's built-in uninstaller, it also searches out registry entries and files that are no longer necessary. I've been using it for about 6 months. It's worked flawlessly for me (and I install/uninstall a lot). http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninst...e_download.html -- Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ Zygy wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > Hi Hank, thank you for the interest. > > The warning appears as a small red icon on the right side of the taskbar > with a notice above it stating that there is no protection against > Malware and that I should check the settings. When I click on the > message I get the Security Center showing that there is no protection > against Malware. I do not know how to proceed further to check the > settings and activate the Malware protection. > > The AVG Anti-virus is updated hourly and running all the time and during > the Malware incidents does not show any threats. I checked. > > The only Firewall I have is the Vista one. Microsoft assure us that it > is impenetrable and one does not require another one. > > Over to you Hank. > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message > news:uYjmWy0uJHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Zygy wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) >>> but the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection >>> for Malware and to check the settings. >>> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >>> Do I need any other software for protection?</span> >> >> Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the >> desktop? Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to get >> you to go to a web site and buy some protection. >> >> Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software >> firewall? >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Hank Arnold >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Server - Directory Services >> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ </span> > </span> Quote
Guest Zygy Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Many thanks for all the information. The AVG I run is paid for although it does not show that it includes Malware protection (it mentions Anti-Virus,Anti-Spyware and Anti-Rootkit protection as active) but the Security Centre shows that the Malware protection is on all the time and only disappears when I get the warning on the Taskbar. The warning disappears if I restart the computer and then the Security Centre show that the Malware protection is on. One of the contributors to these exchanges mentioned that maybe the warning appears only when the update of Malware protection (by Microsoft?) is in progress. Is that possible? I will try NOD32 you recommend if you still feel I should do it. Regards Zygy. "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message news:%23AOHzgBvJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > First off, let's address the firewall issue. No firewall is > "impenetrable".... period. Some are better than others. There are many who > will say that the Vista firewall is all you need. I'm not there, yet, but > it is significantly better than the XP one. It is still considered by > everyone whose opinion matters to me an "adequate" firewall. Combined with > a router w/ a hardware firewall and "Safe computing" is it is, IMNSHO, > sufficient for the average home user. There are much better firewalls out > there, but reality is that they are so intrusive and cryptic, that the > average user simply turns them off or answers "Yes" to every prompt... > > I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it > supposed to protect against Malware? I use NOD32 (from ESET) and it does, > in fact, show up in the Security Center. You can download a 30 day trial > version of NOD32. See if it works. I usually recommend it to folks who > ask. It costs about $60, but, IMNSHO, worth every penny. Stay away from > the ESET Security Suite, though. Many of us are very unhappy with the > firewall function. > > If ESET does, in fact, show up in the Security Center, it means that your > AVG software doesn't have any malware protection... > > BTW, a great uninstall program is "Revo Uninstaller". It not only runs the > program's built-in uninstaller, it also searches out registry entries and > files that are no longer necessary. I've been using it for about 6 months. > It's worked flawlessly for me (and I install/uninstall a lot). > > http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninst...e_download.html > > -- > > Regards, > Hank Arnold > Microsoft MVP > Windows Server - Directory Services > http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ > > Zygy wrote:<span style="color:green"> >> Hi Hank, thank you for the interest. >> >> The warning appears as a small red icon on the right side of the taskbar >> with a notice above it stating that there is no protection against >> Malware and that I should check the settings. When I click on the message >> I get the Security Center showing that there is no protection against >> Malware. I do not know how to proceed further to check the settings and >> activate the Malware protection. >> >> The AVG Anti-virus is updated hourly and running all the time and during >> the Malware incidents does not show any threats. I checked. >> >> The only Firewall I have is the Vista one. Microsoft assure us that it is >> impenetrable and one does not require another one. >> >> Over to you Hank. >> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message >> news:uYjmWy0uJHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Zygy wrote: >>>> I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) >>>> but the computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection >>>> for Malware and to check the settings. >>>> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >>>> Do I need any other software for protection? >>> >>> Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the >>> desktop? Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to get >>> you to go to a web site and buy some protection. >>> >>> Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software >>> firewall? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> Hank Arnold >>> Microsoft MVP >>> Windows Server - Directory Services >>> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/</span> >> </span></span> Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 The avast! antivirus Home Edition is free; see: http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html The features do not use the word malware, but Avast is considered very good; I sure have not seen anything indicating it is lacking. Is that something overlooked by many experts? "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message news:%23AOHzgBvJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > > I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it > supposed to protect against Malware? </span> Quote
Guest Noel Paton Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:06:11 -0700, "Sam Hobbs" <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >The avast! antivirus Home Edition is free; see: >http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html > >The features do not use the word malware, but Avast is considered very good; >I sure have not seen anything indicating it is lacking. Is that something >overlooked by many experts? > > >"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message >news:%23AOHzgBvJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> >> I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it >> supposed to protect against Malware? </span></span> FWIW, AVG free includes what used to be a2 (a-squared) anti-malware - they bought the company a few years back, when it was considered one of the best of its kind. -- Noel Paton www.crashfixpc.co.uk Nil Carborundum Illegitemi Quote
Guest Sam Hobbs Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 "Noel Paton" <noeldp/spamless/@crashfixpc.co.uk> wrote in message news:5sg8u49r9r2e3n636io59pk9ch3gqqh776@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 22:06:11 -0700, "Sam Hobbs" > <Gateremovethis@SamHobbs.org> wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>The avast! antivirus Home Edition is free; see: >>http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html >> >>The features do not use the word malware, but Avast is considered very >>good; >>I sure have not seen anything indicating it is lacking. Is that something >>overlooked by many experts? >> >> >>"Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message >>news:%23AOHzgBvJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:darkred"> >>> >>> I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is it >>> supposed to protect against Malware?</span></span> > FWIW, AVG free includes what used to be a2 (a-squared) anti-malware - > they bought the company a few years back, when it was considered one > of the best of its kind.</span> Note that I made a mistake; Hank said AVG and I mistook it as Avast. I know they are different but clearly made a mistake. Quote
Guest Hank Arnold (MVP) Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Are you running Microsoft Defender? If so, that seems to be the problem. I personally did not like Defender (too intrusive), but many swear by it. Try disabling it and see what happens. Maybe you need to uninstall and then re-install it... If this is the case, I don't think NOD32 (or any other AV program) will address your problem. -- Regards, Hank Arnold Microsoft MVP Windows Server - Directory Services http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ Zygy wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > Many thanks for all the information. The AVG I run is paid for although > it does not show that it includes Malware protection (it mentions > Anti-Virus,Anti-Spyware and Anti-Rootkit protection as active) but the > Security Centre shows that the Malware protection is on all the time and > only disappears when I get the warning on the Taskbar. > > The warning disappears if I restart the computer and then the Security > Centre show that the Malware protection is on. One of the contributors > to these exchanges mentioned that maybe the warning appears only when > the update of Malware protection (by Microsoft?) is in progress. Is > that possible? > > I will try NOD32 you recommend if you still feel I should do it. > > Regards Zygy. > "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message > news:%23AOHzgBvJHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> First off, let's address the firewall issue. No firewall is >> "impenetrable".... period. Some are better than others. There are many >> who will say that the Vista firewall is all you need. I'm not there, >> yet, but it is significantly better than the XP one. It is still >> considered by everyone whose opinion matters to me an "adequate" >> firewall. Combined with a router w/ a hardware firewall and "Safe >> computing" is it is, IMNSHO, sufficient for the average home user. >> There are much better firewalls out there, but reality is that they >> are so intrusive and cryptic, that the average user simply turns them >> off or answers "Yes" to every prompt... >> >> I haven't used the AVG software. Is this the free or paid version? Is >> it supposed to protect against Malware? I use NOD32 (from ESET) and it >> does, in fact, show up in the Security Center. You can download a 30 >> day trial version of NOD32. See if it works. I usually recommend it to >> folks who ask. It costs about $60, but, IMNSHO, worth every penny. >> Stay away from the ESET Security Suite, though. Many of us are very >> unhappy with the firewall function. >> >> If ESET does, in fact, show up in the Security Center, it means that >> your AVG software doesn't have any malware protection... >> >> BTW, a great uninstall program is "Revo Uninstaller". It not only runs >> the program's built-in uninstaller, it also searches out registry >> entries and files that are no longer necessary. I've been using it for >> about 6 months. It's worked flawlessly for me (and I install/uninstall >> a lot). >> >> http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_uninst...e_download.html >> >> -- >> >> Regards, >> Hank Arnold >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Server - Directory Services >> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ >> >> Zygy wrote:<span style="color:darkred"> >>> Hi Hank, thank you for the interest. >>> >>> The warning appears as a small red icon on the right side of the >>> taskbar with a notice above it stating that there is no protection >>> against Malware and that I should check the settings. When I click on >>> the message I get the Security Center showing that there is no >>> protection against Malware. I do not know how to proceed further to >>> check the settings and activate the Malware protection. >>> >>> The AVG Anti-virus is updated hourly and running all the time and >>> during the Malware incidents does not show any threats. I checked. >>> >>> The only Firewall I have is the Vista one. Microsoft assure us that >>> it is impenetrable and one does not require another one. >>> >>> Over to you Hank. >>> "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon@aol.com> wrote in message >>> news:uYjmWy0uJHA.4476@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Zygy wrote: >>>>> I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) >>>>> but the computer from time to time warns me that I have no >>>>> protection for Malware and to check the settings. >>>>> How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) >>>>> Do I need any other software for protection? >>>> >>>> Where exactly do yo see these messages? Are they a pop up on the >>>> desktop? Many times, alerts like these are from hackers trying to >>>> get you to go to a web site and buy some protection. >>>> >>>> Do you have an anti virus software running? How about a software >>>> firewall? >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Hank Arnold >>>> Microsoft MVP >>>> Windows Server - Directory Services >>>> http://mypcassistant.blogspot.com/ >>></span></span> > </span> Quote
Guest Ǝøçεl Posted April 19, 2009 Posted April 19, 2009 Hello Zygy, You could try this: Right-click Command Prompt (in Start Menu\Programs\Accessories) and choose Run as Administrator. Type (or Copy and Paste) the following command: winmgmt /verifyrepository If the system returns "WMI repository is not consistent", type this command: winmgmt /salvagerepository The first time you run this it will fail. (It will issue stop commands to the services causing it to fail, saying, "A stop control has been sent to a service that other running services are dependent on"). It might take a couple minutes for the services to shut down. Run the last command again. You actually may have to run it 3 times before it finally runs and completes on its own. -- "Zygy" wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > I run AVG, Spybot-S&D and Rapport Setup,(web protection e.g.Bank's) but the > computer from time to time warns me that I have no protection for Malware > and to check the settings. > How do I check the settings? (I am a self-taught user) > Do I need any other software for protection? > > </span> Quote
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