Guest Oliver Costich Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe Acrobat 8. When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this action". Here's what I have tried so far: UAC is off. Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator /active:yes in cmd run as administrator) I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. HELP!! Quote
Guest Steve McGarrett Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:51:24 -0700, Oliver Costich <oc@5cats.net> wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain >things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to >delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe >Acrobat 8. > >When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this >action". Here's what I have tried so far: > >UAC is off. > >Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab > >Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator >/active:yes in cmd run as administrator) > > > >I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. >Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. > >HELP!!</span> Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click context menu. http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ Works most of the time. Quote
Guest Dave Warren Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 In message <msddu4puasd20a4et788fc6sih14uami6b@4ax.com> Steve McGarrett <smcgarret@bookem.com> was claimed to have wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click >context menu. > >http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/ > >Works most of the time.</span> Be aware that this can cause some rather interesting file corruption... Shut down everything you can, and reboot immediately after using unlocker. Quote
Guest huhansen318@hotmail.com Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system. Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which are created in Windows XP automatically. I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution. "Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> 写入消æ¯ news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain > things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to > delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe > Acrobat 8. > > When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this > action". Here's what I have tried so far: > > UAC is off. > > Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab > > Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator > /active:yes in cmd run as administrator) > > > > I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. > Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. > > HELP!! </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 "Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain > things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to > delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe > Acrobat 8. > > When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this > action". Here's what I have tried so far: > > UAC is off. > > Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab > > Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator > /active:yes in cmd run as administrator) > > > > I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. > Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. > > HELP!!</span> You don't mention the use of icacls to affect the Mandatory Label. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753525.aspx Quote
Guest Dave Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Since the files on that drive were created by a different user, you don't own them. To take control of them, you need to take ownership & change permissions. Assuming the files are on Drive D, and that you have an administrator account: Open a CMD prompt, by clicking on Start - All Programs - Accessories right-click on Command Prompt, select "Run as Administrator" takeown /f D:\ /r /d y icacls D:\ /grant administrators:F /t http://nemesisv.blogspot.com/2007/08/takin...p-in-vista.html -- Windows 7 beta http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview http://download.live.com/wlmail "Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> wrote in message news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain > things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to > delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe > Acrobat 8. > > When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this > action". Here's what I have tried so far: > > UAC is off. > > Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab > > Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator > /active:yes in cmd run as administrator) > > > > I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. > Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. > > HELP!! </span> Quote
Guest AstaLaVista Posted April 22, 2009 Posted April 22, 2009 Steve McGarrett;1020832 Wrote: <span style="color:blue"> > On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 19:51:24 -0700, Oliver Costich <oc@xxxxxx> > wrote:<span style="color:green"><span style="color:darkred"> > > > > > > >I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain > > >things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to > > >delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe > > >Acrobat 8. > > > > > >When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this > > >action". Here's what I have tried so far: > > > > > >UAC is off. > > > > > >Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab > > > > > >Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator > > >/active:yes in cmd run as administrator) > > > > > > > > > > > >I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. > > >Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. > > > > > >HELP!! > > Get this and install it. It will add "Unlocker" to your right-click</span></span> > context menu. > > 'UNLOCKER 1.8.7 BY CEDRICK 'NITCH' COLLOMB' > (http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/) > > Works most of the time.</span> I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, this will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do with permissions to move, transfer or save a file? Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so. I am going to try it anyways because, I don't want to loose the files I have right now and, at this point, I can't even open them where they stand, even though I have full access to it, I have taken ownership of it and the whole drive is also fully accessible for me. I hope this is the correct or proper etiquette even though I have no answer for it. -- AstaLaVista Quote
Guest Dave Warren Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@nntp-gateway.com> AstaLaVista <guest@unknown-email.com> was claimed to have wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but >I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, this >will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do with >permissions to move, transfer or save a file?</span> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file locks isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't the issue. <span style="color:blue"> >Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant >locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.</span> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions and locks are very different things. Quote
Guest Leo Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Maybe this will help. Step by step instruction on how to take ownership of a folder Run CMD (as administrator) and type: takeown [path] /f <filename or folder> OR - Right-click the file/folder you want to own, click properties - Click Security Tab - Click Advanced - Click the Owner Tab - Click Edit - Select the Administrators group from the list - Click OK - Click OK - Click OK You have now taken 'Ownership' of the file and you can close the property Windows Now again 1) Right-click on the file 2) Select Properties 3) Go to the Security tab again, click the Advanced button 4) Now Press Edit, then double-click 'Administrators' in the list and tick the 'allow' box for 'Full control' You have now taken 'Full control' of file -- Leo Liberalism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy. <huhansen318@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23kF$OXzwJHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Oh, It might be related to your previous operating system. > Vista is not able to ensure permission of operating files and folders which > are created in Windows XP automatically. > I'm not so sure, and do not have a solution. > > > "Oliver Costich" <oc@5cats.net> 写入消æ¯ > news:qm6du4p30f152b51chs5vimeorad8njc68@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> I just upgraded to Vista x64 from x86 XP and trying to do certain >> things is driving me nuts. I have a couple of folders I want to >> delete. They are not system related. In fact they are part of Adobe >> Acrobat 8. >> >> When I try to delete them I get "You need permission to perform this >> action". Here's what I have tried so far: >> >> UAC is off. >> >> Right clicking the folder and giving full control on the security tab >> >> Using the hidden administrator account (net user administrator >> /active:yes in cmd run as administrator) >> >> >> >> I have been through numerous Google searchesand found nothing useful. >> Surely this can be fixed somehow but it apparently isn't easy. >> >> HELP!!</span> > </span> Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 "Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@djwcomputers.com> wrote in message news:f0ruu45porinib0o1t8cpntcvtv38ah4qf@4ax.com...<span style="color:blue"> > In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@nntp-gateway.com> > AstaLaVista <guest@unknown-email.com> was claimed to have wrote: ><span style="color:green"> >>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but >>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, >>this >>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do >>with >>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?</span> > > The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file > locks > isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused > and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't > the issue. ><span style="color:green"> >>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant >>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.</span> > > Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions > and > locks are very different things.</span> Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions" (privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the average user. Quote
Guest Dave Warren Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 In message <uQruQgFxJHA.5584@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl> "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> was claimed to have wrote: <span style="color:blue"> >"Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@djwcomputers.com> wrote in message >news:f0ruu45porinib0o1t8cpntcvtv38ah4qf@4ax.com...<span style="color:green"> >> In message <32d448550bcea398733f3ef684eee96b@nntp-gateway.com> >> AstaLaVista <guest@unknown-email.com> was claimed to have wrote: >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>I am sorry, I am having a similar situation as the original poster but >>>I fail to see how this is even relevant. If I understand correctly, >>>this >>>will help me Unlock a file or folder but what does that have to do >>>with >>>permissions to move, transfer or save a file?</span> >> >> The difference between access being blocked by permissions or file >> locks >> isn't particularly clear to all apps, even Explorer gets this confused >> and offers to elevate to perform an operation when permissions aren't >> the issue. >><span style="color:darkred"> >>>Am I to believe that by running this app, somehow, all the relevant >>>locks on it will dissapear? I sure hope so.</span> >> >> Unlocker will remove any open file locks, yes. However, permissions >> and >> locks are very different things.</span> > >Confusion between "blocked" (executable from internet), "locked" (in use >by another application, or in some cases encrypted), "permissions" >(privileges), and "integrity levels" (Mandatory Label/IE protected >mode). All these just mean "Windows Vista won't let me..." to the >average user. ></span> True, but the solution is still quite different depending on the underlying problem. Quote
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