Guest Rick Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 I recently purchased a new laptop with Vista on it, and I continue to be frustrated by the layers of security I have to constantly wade through. I am the owner, administrator and sole user of this computer. It is used in my home and is not part of any LAN. Yet even though I am the administrator and only user, I still have to give myself permission before I can do certain things or run certain programs. Is there any quick and easy way I can change a setting somewhere so that I don't have to constantly give myself permission to do various things? Also, I have managed to change the security settings on various folders by going into Properties so that I can access the folders freely and see and access all files. But there are certain folders like the main Windows folder where I can't quite get the settings right so that I can have full control over the folder. I still see certain things grayed out on security screens under Properties where I am trying to give myself full control. I should mention that I have been a computer professional for more than 40 years so this is not a situation where it is likely I will "accidentally" delete something important or do something to destroy the integrity of the system. I have had a lot of experience over the years with earlier Windows operating systems and am pretty comfortable with Windows XP and its predecessors. But Vista is turning out to be a real pain, and for a single user, single computer environment like mine where I am not part of a network and am just using the computer for my own personal reasons, the security is excessive and annoying. So again...my questions are these: 1) Is there an easy way I can give myself total control over all folders and files on the system? 2) Can I somehow get rid of those annoying "need your permission to continue" messages when the system ought to be smart enough to realize that I am an administrator and the only user? Quote
Guest H Brown Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 Hi Rick The link below has the instructions that will show you how to change all administrator account's UAC Privilege Level to keep UAC on and not prompt an administrator. http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80938-us...vel.html?filter[11]=User Accounts H Brown "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote in message news:pwiLl.29059$YU2.24495@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I recently purchased a new laptop with Vista on it, and I continue to be >frustrated by the layers of security I have to constantly wade through. I >am the owner, administrator and sole user of this computer. It is used in >my home and is not part of any LAN. Yet even though I am the administrator >and only user, I still have to give myself permission before I can do >certain things or run certain programs. Is there any quick and easy way I >can change a setting somewhere so that I don't have to constantly give >myself permission to do various things? > > Also, I have managed to change the security settings on various folders by > going into Properties so that I can access the folders freely and see and > access all files. But there are certain folders like the main Windows > folder where I can't quite get the settings right so that I can have full > control over the folder. I still see certain things grayed out on > security screens under Properties where I am trying to give myself full > control. > > I should mention that I have been a computer professional for more than 40 > years so this is not a situation where it is likely I will "accidentally" > delete something important or do something to destroy the integrity of the > system. I have had a lot of experience over the years with earlier > Windows operating systems and am pretty comfortable with Windows XP and > its predecessors. But Vista is turning out to be a real pain, and for a > single user, single computer environment like mine where I am not part of > a network and am just using the computer for my own personal reasons, the > security is excessive and annoying. > > So again...my questions are these: > > 1) Is there an easy way I can give myself total control over all folders > and files on the system? > > 2) Can I somehow get rid of those annoying "need your permission to > continue" messages when the system ought to be smart enough to realize > that I am an administrator and the only user? > </span> Quote
Guest Charlie Tame Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 Rick wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > I recently purchased a new laptop with Vista on it, and I continue to be > frustrated by the layers of security I have to constantly wade through. I > am the owner, administrator and sole user of this computer. It is used in > my home and is not part of any LAN. Yet even though I am the administrator > and only user, I still have to give myself permission before I can do > certain things or run certain programs. Is there any quick and easy way I > can change a setting somewhere so that I don't have to constantly give > myself permission to do various things? > > Also, I have managed to change the security settings on various folders by > going into Properties so that I can access the folders freely and see and > access all files. But there are certain folders like the main Windows > folder where I can't quite get the settings right so that I can have full > control over the folder. I still see certain things grayed out on security > screens under Properties where I am trying to give myself full control. > > I should mention that I have been a computer professional for more than 40 > years so this is not a situation where it is likely I will "accidentally" > delete something important or do something to destroy the integrity of the > system. I have had a lot of experience over the years with earlier Windows > operating systems and am pretty comfortable with Windows XP and its > predecessors. But Vista is turning out to be a real pain, and for a single > user, single computer environment like mine where I am not part of a network > and am just using the computer for my own personal reasons, the security is > excessive and annoying. > > So again...my questions are these: > > 1) Is there an easy way I can give myself total control over all folders > and files on the system? > > 2) Can I somehow get rid of those annoying "need your permission to > continue" messages when the system ought to be smart enough to realize that > I am an administrator and the only user? > > </span> Rick wrote:<span style="color:blue"> > I recently purchased a new laptop with Vista on it, and I continue to be > frustrated by the layers of security I have to constantly wade </span> through. I<span style="color:blue"> > am the owner, administrator and sole user of this computer. It is </span> used in<span style="color:blue"> > my home and is not part of any LAN. Yet even though I am the </span> administrator<span style="color:blue"> > and only user, I still have to give myself permission before I can do > certain things or run certain programs. Is there any quick and easy </span> way I<span style="color:blue"> > can change a setting somewhere so that I don't have to constantly give > myself permission to do various things? > > Also, I have managed to change the security settings on various </span> folders by<span style="color:blue"> > going into Properties so that I can access the folders freely and see </span> and<span style="color:blue"> > access all files. But there are certain folders like the main Windows > folder where I can't quite get the settings right so that I can have </span> full<span style="color:blue"> > control over the folder. I still see certain things grayed out on </span> security<span style="color:blue"> > screens under Properties where I am trying to give myself full control. > > I should mention that I have been a computer professional for more </span> than 40<span style="color:blue"> > years so this is not a situation where it is likely I will </span> "accidentally"<span style="color:blue"> > delete something important or do something to destroy the integrity </span> of the<span style="color:blue"> > system. I have had a lot of experience over the years with earlier </span> Windows<span style="color:blue"> > operating systems and am pretty comfortable with Windows XP and its > predecessors. But Vista is turning out to be a real pain, and for a </span> single<span style="color:blue"> > user, single computer environment like mine where I am not part of a </span> network<span style="color:blue"> > and am just using the computer for my own personal reasons, the </span> security is<span style="color:blue"> > excessive and annoying. > > So again...my questions are these: > > 1) Is there an easy way I can give myself total control over all </span> folders<span style="color:blue"> > and files on the system? > > 2) Can I somehow get rid of those annoying "need your permission to > continue" messages when the system ought to be smart enough to </span> realize that<span style="color:blue"> > I am an administrator and the only user? > ></span> If your laptop got stolen a casual thief would probably reformat rather than get your personal info. But yes it can be a nuisance, and is also pretty worthless security to a knowledgable thief and also the idiot who clicks on yes to everything because they don't understand it. I hated, hated, hated it at first but it should get less frequent and you will "Get used to it". You can disable it but to be honest I've found that if you do "Non default" things to Winders it can come back and bite you. I recommend you learn to live with it and watch a few youtube videos based on a search for MAC Vs PC. It's no technical help whatsoever but we're probably about the same age and it breaks up the day, It's Sunday, at least it is here in Iowa. Quote
Guest FromTheRafters Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote in message news:pwiLl.29059$YU2.24495@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> >I recently purchased a new laptop with Vista on it,</span> [...] <span style="color:blue"> > ...frustrated by the layers of security I have to constantly wade > through.</span> [...] <span style="color:blue"> > ...the owner, administrator and sole user of this computer.</span> [...] <span style="color:blue"> > ...where I am trying to give myself full control.</span> [...] <span style="color:blue"> > I should mention that I have been a computer professional for more > than 40 years</span> [...] <span style="color:blue"> > So again...my questions are these: > > 1) Is there an easy way I can give myself total control over all > folders and files on the system?</span> Not really, only the "system" account has that kind of control. Disable MIC and use the real administrator (Administrator) account. <span style="color:blue"> > 2) Can I somehow get rid of those annoying "need your permission to > continue" messages when the system ought to be smart enough to realize > that I am an administrator and the only user?</span> The "Administrator" account should not be subjected to UAC, and if MIC can be turned off via HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\EnableMIC - no more access denied due to integrity levels. Quote
Guest Rick Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 "H Brown" <H.Brown@Invalid.com> wrote in message news:er2TicAzJHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:blue"> > Hi Rick > The link below has the instructions that will show you how to change all > administrator account's UAC Privilege Level to keep UAC on and not prompt > an administrator. > http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80938-us...vel.html?filter[11]=User > Accounts > > H Brown</span> That worked fine for eliminating the annoying "permission to proceed" messages. Thanks very much! I still have an issue with going into Properties to change the permissions on certain files and folders. If I go into some folders (like Windows) and try to change the permissions to full access, I get little windows that pop up and say "an error has occurred while applying security information to [folder path]. Access is denied." Quote
Guest Dave Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 This is very handy... http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/112795-c...-ownership.html -- Windows 7 beta http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview http://download.live.com/wlmail "Rick" <rick@nospam.com> wrote in message news:2xBLl.25946$c45.3186@nlpi065.nbdc.sbc.com...<span style="color:blue"> > > "H Brown" <H.Brown@Invalid.com> wrote in message > news:er2TicAzJHA.1432@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...<span style="color:green"> >> Hi Rick >> The link below has the instructions that will show you how to change all >> administrator account's UAC Privilege Level to keep UAC on and not prompt >> an administrator. >> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80938-us...vel.html?filter[11]=User >> Accounts >> >> H Brown</span> > > That worked fine for eliminating the annoying "permission to proceed" > messages. Thanks very much! > > I still have an issue with going into Properties to change the permissions > on certain files and folders. If I go into some folders (like Windows) > and try to change the permissions to full access, I get little windows > that pop up and say "an error has occurred while applying security > information to [folder path]. Access is denied." > </span> Quote
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