Jesus is evil, ask a republican

[phreakwars]

It's not so much the crime itself that I am getting at, but rather, the excuse..

 

Don't you think it almost seems cli'ched to say you were molested by a priest ??

 

What this does to me personally, is make me think that perhaps there is some kind of evil presence in the study of Catholicism that turns out all these child molesting priests..

 

I know that sounds absurd, but I have never heard of any boy molesting protestants, methodists, lutherans, or baptist... or etc... it's ALWAYS a fucking Catholic priest... why is that ??

 

What I find strange, is it is the Catholic religion that is usually against all the causes for morality...I.E. gay marriages, abortion, drugs, etc... etc..

 

I think by Foley claiming he was molested (by a priest no less), he actually made an ever bigger slap to the face of Catholics without even realizing it.... Or maybe he DID realize the impact, and it was just the effect that he wanted..

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[Lethalfind]

Absolutely, his excuses are a pathetic attempt to shift the blame elsewhere...its not my fault I'm a sick pedo, I drink too much...thats what made me do it and oh of course I am gay, thats what made me do it and oh I forgot, I was also molested by as priest...

 

The more he opens his mouth the worse this thing gets.

 

I think its hilarious that the Republican party has this guy in their midst given how they feel about Gay marriage.

 

I also believe that the stricter the religion, the more you find people like this, they feel guilt for being sick sons of bitches so they feel they have to attone for what they are thinking and doing. In my studies about Pedos, I ran across an article that use this to explain why so many pedos have entered the priesthood.

[Lethalfind]

I thought it would be interesting to know what the age of consent is in the US and it varies widely from 14 years of age in Hawaii on up to 18 where I live in Florida...

 

http://www.actwin.com/eatonohio/gay/consent.htm

 

This is one more reason to get out there and vote, the age of consent in my opinion should never be lower then 18 but as you can see from this link, 18 is far from the norm.

[phreakwars]

Well there obviously seems to be a conflict as to what exactly underage... or more to the point..."pedophilia" is... where is the cut off line ??

 

Hell, remember the case with the whore in Nebraska ??

 

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=44085

 

Kansas says you can get married at 14..

 

Evidently age of consent does not apply if married ??

 

So fucking your 14 year old wife is OK, but not OK if you are not married..

 

That's just one example.. so what is the cut off line here ??

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[Lethalfind]

The age of consent can also be different for same sex couples then for male/female couples...

 

This is just another thing that I personally beleive should be a federal law, the same for everyone, therefore discouraging kids from going to another state to marry and whatever else.

[ImWithStupid]

This is one more reason to get out there and vote, the age of consent in my opinion should never be lower then 18 but as you can see from this link, 18 is far from the norm.

 

So you are saying that a young couple who have been dating since middle school need to stop because one turns 18 and the other is still 17?

 

I know in Nebraska this type of scenerio is why they have the age of consent at 16. I do however think that there should be a cap on that of at least 25. For example, a 25 year old could date someone as young as 16 but once you turn 26 your partner should be at least 18. I know of several parents in our area who are furious to find out that their 16 or 17 year old daughter is having sex with 30 something year old (and even older) men and there is nothing that the cops can do about it.

[Lethalfind]

I didn't say anything about a young couple, I was actually referring to a 60 year old man being able to legally engage in sexual activity with a 16 year old boy...That should be against the law. Read the entire thread and that can clearly be seen.

 

If your not mature enough to vote or fight for your country then you have no business making the decision to be involved sexually with someone so much older then you are.

[ImWithStupid]

I didn't say anything about a young couple, I was actually referring to a 60 year old man being able to legally engage in sexual activity with a 16 year old boy...That should be against the law. Read the entire thread and that can clearly be seen.

 

I did read the entire thread. You said that

the age of consent in my opinion should never be lower then 18.

That is a very final statement that in no way says that you were talking about a 60 year old man and a 16 year old boy. That is why I went on to give a possible scenerio to under 18 consent but where that persons partner should be limited to a certain age.

 

Also in your opinion would it make a differnce if it was a 60 year old man and a 16 year old girl or a 60 year old woman and a 16 year old boy?

[hugo]

So you are saying that a young couple who have been dating since middle school need to stop because one turns 18 and the other is still 17?

 

I know in Nebraska this type of scenerio is why they have the age of consent at 16. I do however think that there should be a cap on that of at least 25. For example, a 25 year old could date someone as young as 16 but once you turn 26 your partner should be at least 18. I know of several parents in our area who are furious to find out that their 16 or 17 year old daughter is having sex with 30 something year old (and even older) men and there is nothing that the cops can do about it.

 

That is what 12-gauge shotguns are for.

[hugo]

Absolutely, his excuses are a pathetic attempt to shift the blame elsewhere...its not my fault I'm a sick pedo, I drink too much...thats what made me do it and oh of course I am gay, thats what made me do it and oh I forgot, I was also molested by as priest...

 

The more he opens his mouth the worse this thing gets.

 

I think its hilarious that the Republican party has this guy in their midst given how they feel about Gay marriage.

 

I also believe that the stricter the religion, the more you find people like this, they feel guilt for being sick sons of bitches so they feel they have to attone for what they are thinking and doing. In my studies about Pedos, I ran across an article that use this to explain why so many pedos have entered the priesthood.

 

You need to do more studying so you will know the difference between a pedophile and an ephebophile.

 

 

Ephebophilia

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ephebophilia has been defined as a sexual preference in which an adult is primarily or exclusively sexually attracted to postpubescent adolescents. It comes from the Greek: έφηβος (ephebos) variously defined as "one arrived at puberty", "a youth of 18 who underwent his dokimasia and was registered as a citizen (Athens)", and "arriving at man's estate"; and φιλία (-philia) "love]

 

Ephebophilia, as most strictly defined, refers only to an attraction, not to actual love relations or sexual activity (although these can be involved). It is used in contrast with pedophilia, which is an attraction to pre-pubescent or pubescent individuals. In more casual usage, however, pedophilia is often used more broadly to describe an attraction to any person younger than the legal age of consent. For example, the term "pedophile priests" is frequently used instead of "ephebophile priests" or "pederastic priests", in the context of the Roman Catholic sex abuse cases, although much of the sexual behavior involved was with adolescent (i.e. post-pubescent) teens.[ci

An alternate term, older but less widely used, is hebephilia.

 

Characteristics

The nature of ephebophilia is unresolved, and a variety of perspectives are held. Some regard ephebophilia as merely a milder form of pedophilia, in which the object of attraction is closer to what is "normal" than with a true pedophile. According to one theory, ephebophilia is a chronophilia, i.e. a paraphilia in which the paraphile's sexual/erotic age is discordant with his or her actual chronological age, and is instead concordant with the age of the partner.

 

 

.Attraction to adolescents is not commonly regarded by psychologists as inherently pathological, only when it interferes with other relationships, becomes an obsession adversely affecting other areas of life, or causes distress to the subject.

 

Sexual desire that includes adolescents along with older individuals is common among adults with either a heterosexual or a homosexual orientation this is not labeled "ephebophilia" because the attraction to adolescents is not exclusive of adults. In some cultures, for adults to include adolescents among their sexual interests is considered normal, such as those in which adolescent girls have routinely been married to adult men. Nonetheless, an open attraction to adolescents may be ridiculed or disparaged in some cultures as inappropriate or unhealthy, compared to forming a relationship with "someone your own age"; an attraction to adolescents is something one is expected to "grow out of". In Japanese society, the attraction of men towards teenage girls (high-school students) is a visible cultural phenomenon. The manifestations of such attraction, such as lolicon art, school uniform fetishes, and sexual relations with teenage girls (e.g. enjo kōsai) are tolerated more than in much of the Western world.

 

 

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[jokersarewild]

This story just makes me sicker and sicker every time I read more about it...so I have stopped.

 

First he says he is going to rehab...like the drink made him be a pedo...then he says he was molested by priests...his youth made him do it.

 

How many people have been molested by priests who have NEVER touched another child in this way???

 

I would LIKE to see everyone who knew about this prick and said NOTHING shot at noon in front of the white house.

 

I just thought I'd point this out so that you people stop making this guy out to be a tremendously horrible human being: THE KID IS 16! NOT 5, NOT 10, HE IS 16!

 

Stop being idiots. This is legal in DC, btw: http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm

 

He is at the age of consent, so this looks bad for the Republicans as far as the homosexuality goes, but, he is legal at 16.

[hugo]

I just thought I'd point this out so that you people stop making this guy out to be a tremendously horrible human being: THE KID IS 16! NOT 5, NOT 10, HE IS 16!

 

Stop being idiots. This is legal in DC, btw: http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm

 

He is at the age of consent, so this looks bad for the Republicans as far as the homosexuality goes, but, he is legal at 16.

 

We all know that every 16 year old is dumber than a Ritz cracker...right, JW.

[TooDrunkToFuck]

Nice try Phreak. There are sickos in every political party, religion, and pretty much any group of humans you can think of. That is just the way it is.

 

Wow. More hypocrisy... I doubt you could find one person on this site that could be truly considered moral, yourself included.

 

You are dodging the issue. The democrats had one of their own take what Foley did a step further and stood behind him. Now, they are ready to crucify Foley. Does that honestly make sense to you, because it all sounds very politically motivated to me.

 

 

I think the part that you're forgetting is that Republicans are trying to force traditional values on the American people through law. The Democrats are the types who support expansions of sexual and social freedom. The Republicans use this to gain a moral high ground in elections ... Hell, that's one of the main points Bush Sr. tried to use when he ran against Clinton, talking about how the country needs greater "moral fiber." These guys are by and large zealots when it comes to traditional morals and resistance to new freedoms, which makes it significantly worse when they get caught with their pants down.

 

Clinton gets blown by Monica? Yeah, that's bad, but how many other public officials engage in extra-marital affairs?

 

Bill 'O Reilly sexually harrasses a Fox producer? That's a bit different, given his rants about protecting traditional family values and such.

[Lethalfind]

Imwithstupid...If you had read the thread closely enough you would have seen I was never talking about two people of the same or near the same age, I was talking about someone like a 60 year old man with a 16 year old boy, that is what I think should be illegal, a person that old with someone so young.

 

Some states have laws saying that if the spread is only 3 years or so, no big deal, that makes sense too me.

 

This 60 year old man was clearly in the drivers seat of this relationship and very easily could have manipulated into doing something he would not have done otherwise.

[TooDrunkToFuck]

Ms. "Perfect Beyatch", just curious, how do you feel about the legalities of Anna Nicole Smith boning that Rockefeller fella?

[jokersarewild]

We all know that every 16 year old is dumber than a Ritz cracker...right, JW.

 

1. I've known a few that would surprise ya.

 

2. I think you missed my point.

[ToriAllen]

I don't know about Washington DC but 16 is not the age of consent here.

It doesn't really matter what it is in Florida, because he was not there at the time. Either way, he still broke a law, just not that law.

What he has done is indefensible AND those that helped cover it are as guilty as he is. I don't believe for a moment that the 16 and up pages are the only CHILDREN this sick bastard has gotten to. Its only a matter of time before more about this sickos misadventures comes out.

Him trying too blame his actions on drinking and being molested rather then just taking responsibility for them makes me sick. Which for me would be true whether he were Dem or Repub.

Its sad when someone is SO attached to a party they look for excuses to ignore this kind of behavior in someone from their own party when they would in FACT be the first to throw the stones if he were in the other party.

I was simply pointing out the legal issues that some people seem to be missing. What he did was wrong, but it is not an issue of pedophilia, it is an issue of abuse of power, and that is the law that was broken. Did you even see the link I put up about Studds? The democrat that had sex with a page and still got reelected several times? The Republicans are not standing behind Foley, but the Democrats stood behind Studds.

This is one more reason to get out there and vote, the age of consent in my opinion should never be lower then 18 but as you can see from this link, 18 is far from the norm.

They actually lowered the consent age in Ga to 16 from 18 back in '97. It was the same year they raised the driving age from 16 to 18, because they didn't think the kids were mature enough to drive a car.

It's not so much the crime itself that I am getting at, but rather, the excuse..

The excuse is ridiculous. An adult is responsible for his/her own actions.

I think the part that you're forgetting is that Republicans are trying to force traditional values on the American people through law. The Democrats are the types who support expansions of sexual and social freedom. The Republicans use this to gain a moral high ground in elections ... Hell, that's one of the main points Bush Sr. tried to use when he ran against Clinton, talking about how the country needs greater "moral fiber." These guys are by and large zealots when it comes to traditional morals and resistance to new freedoms, which makes it significantly worse when they get caught with their pants down.

 

Clinton gets blown by Monica? Yeah, that's bad, but how many other public officials engage in extra-marital affairs?

 

Bill 'O Reilly sexually harrasses a Fox producer? That's a bit different, given his rants about protecting traditional family values and such.

So it is worse for a Republican to break the law than for a Democrat to break the law, because it is expected from Democrats, but not Republicans? Does that actually make sense to you? I can see how the morality lapse is worse for a Republican because the Party turns their back on him, where as, the Democratic Party embraces and supports their members who lack morality. It is definitely a career killer in the Republican Party, where it is not in the Democratic Party. I didn't miss that part. I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the Democratic Party that embraced a Democrat for having sex with a page, while shunning a Republican for sending instant messages to a page. It seems to really show the character of the Party.

[eddo]

They actually lowered the consent age in Ga to 16 from 18 back in '97. It was the same year they raised the driving age from 16 to 18, because they didn't think the kids were mature enough to drive a car.

 

That is amazingly sad.