Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 06/16/2010 04:12 AM, atec7 7 > wrote: > Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >> >> > >> >> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of >> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu. >> >> > Oh look another ill informed winblows apologist Not to mention too fucking stupid to install and run Ubuntu. -- Alias Quote
Guest Marti van Lin Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: > On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >> decide >> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I >> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >> >> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They >> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the >> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >> tools >> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >> machines. >> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >> >> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >> like to >> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >> so long >> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >> Problem >> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >> that >> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >> purchase >> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >> >> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7 >> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know >> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >> understand I >> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >> analyst. I >> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The >> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've >> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >> Not >> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically >> had little if any problems. >> >> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >> get XP >> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >> to XP >> at work would that not be possible? >> >> Many Thanks, >> -JC >> >> > Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very > quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for example? It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 in a virtual machine. I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am only a hobbyist home user ;-) You can have gratis support right here: http://ubuntuusers.de/ or (if you are not German) here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ With kind regards, -- |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin |-|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040 |0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin Quote
Guest Rob Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 "Marti van Lin" <ml2mst@gmail.com> wrote in message news:hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net... > Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>> decide >>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But >>> I >>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>> >>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They >>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the >>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>> tools >>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>> machines. >>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>> >>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>> like to >>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>> so long >>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>> Problem >>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>> that >>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>> purchase >>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>> >>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows >>> 7 >>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know >>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>> understand I >>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>> analyst. I >>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. >>> The >>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've >>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>> Not >>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>> typically >>> had little if any problems. >>> >>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>> get XP >>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>> to XP >>> at work would that not be possible? >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> -JC >>> >>> >> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. > > Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast > to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. > > If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same > problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in > 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. > > Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is > quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. > > So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for > example? > > It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's > gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) > available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) > > You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply > install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 > in a virtual machine. > > I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am > only a hobbyist home user ;-) > > You can have gratis support right here: > > http://ubuntuusers.de/ > > or (if you are not German) here: > > http://www.ubuntu.com/ It is completely pointless arguing which is the 'best' operating system, when these should be invisible to the user and never require the use of DOS-like text-based commands to fix bugs/incompatibilities. What the VAST majority of users do is buy applications. They do not care about operating systems. If a professional needs to run (say) Adobe Premiere Pro CS/5 as this is his industry's standard, then they will use an OS on which it is designed to run. Simple as that. Until application vendors start supplying versions which run natively in linux etc without using emulators or virtual machines (both of which require geek-level skills to configure and then fix the known bugs), linux and it's like will remain the poor cousin of the likes of Windows. Me? I use applications. As for OS's (in order of preference), I run my apps in Windows7x64, XP and Kubuntu. -- Rob Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: > Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>> decide >>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I >>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>> >>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They >>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the >>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>> tools >>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>> machines. >>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>> >>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>> like to >>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>> so long >>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>> Problem >>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>> that >>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>> purchase >>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>> >>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7 >>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know >>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>> understand I >>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>> analyst. I >>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The >>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've >>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>> Not >>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically >>> had little if any problems. >>> >>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>> get XP >>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>> to XP >>> at work would that not be possible? >>> >>> Many Thanks, >>> -JC >>> >>> >> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. > > Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast > to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. > > If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same > problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in > 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. > > Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is > quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. > > So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for example? > > It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's > gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) > available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) > > You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply > install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 > in a virtual machine. > > I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am > only a hobbyist home user ;-) > > You can have gratis support right here: > > http://ubuntuusers.de/ > > or (if you are not German) here: > > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > With kind regards, > Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending. Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 2:34 AM, Alias wrote: > On 06/15/2010 10:27 PM, Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >> >> >> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message >> news:hv8jah$ukh$1@news.eternal-september.org... >>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message >>>> news:hv7ui5$8m6$1@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>> Tim Slattery wrote: >>>>>> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>>>>> get XP >>>>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>>>>> to XP >>>>>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but >>>>>> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can >>>>>> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in >>>>>> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP. >>>>>> >>>>>> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this >>>>>> point >>>>>> would not be a good idea. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP >>>>> is not the OS on the vast majority of computers. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Alias >>>> >>>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of >>>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of becoming outdated like Windows 3, >>> 95, 98, 98SE, Me, NT 3, NT 4 or XP do which was the subject at hand. >>> >>> -- >>> Alias >> >> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It >> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the >> computer users who try that piece of shit OS. >> >> > > As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know what > the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this. > As we all know, you are stupid enough to install ubuntu and obviously don't know what you're talking about. Your every post proves that point. Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 1:22 AM, Parko wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:43:52 +1000, John Morrison sgraffire: > >> I tried Ubuntu on an earlier computer, it was quite a reasonable OS but >> wouldn't run my favourite Windows programs. > > Of course it won't - natively. You could have tried Wine, or Crossover, > or Playonlinux. > > http://www.winehq.org/about/ > http://www.codeweavers.com/products/ > http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ What a total wast of time. Quote
Guest Leythos Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 In article <hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... > Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast > to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. > That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting version ABC.ABC... The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Marti van Lin Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: > In article <hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >> > > That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are > released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting > version ABC.ABC... There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update manager. I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. > The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support > and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last five years. If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported right out of the box. -- |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin |-|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040 |0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin Quote
Guest Leythos Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 In article <hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... > > Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: > > In article <hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... > >> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast > >> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. > >> > > > > That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are > > released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting > > version ABC.ABC... > > There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update > manager. > > I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long > Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. > > > The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support > > and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. > > I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last > five years. > > If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under > GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported > right out of the box. How many Epson printers do you have? How many Cannon printers do you have? How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully operational with Linux? The list goes on. The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Leythos wrote: > In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >> >> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: >>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>>> >>> >>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are >>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting >>> version ABC.ABC... >> >> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update >> manager. >> >> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long >> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. >> >>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support >>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. >> >> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last >> five years. >> >> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under >> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported >> right out of the box. > > How many Epson printers do you have? I have a few and they work great with Linux. > > How many Cannon printers do you have? Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way. > > How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully > operational with Linux? I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or Windows 7 drivers though. > > The list goes on. So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and every printer ever made? > > The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out > with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux. > Research before buying. You don't do that? -- Alias Quote
Guest Marti van Lin Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Op 16-06-10 13:45, Rob wrote: > "Marti van Lin" <ml2mst@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net... >> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>>> decide >>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But >>>> I >>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>>> >>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They >>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the >>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>>> tools >>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>>> machines. >>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>>> >>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>>> like to >>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>>> so long >>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>>> Problem >>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>>> that >>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>>> purchase >>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>>> >>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows >>>> 7 >>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know >>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>>> understand I >>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>>> analyst. I >>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. >>>> The >>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've >>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>>> Not >>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>>> typically >>>> had little if any problems. >>>> >>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>> get XP >>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>> to XP >>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>> >>>> Many Thanks, >>>> -JC >>>> >>>> >>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. >> >> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >> >> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same >> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in >> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. >> >> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is >> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. >> >> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for >> example? >> >> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's >> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) >> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) >> >> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply >> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 >> in a virtual machine. >> >> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am >> only a hobbyist home user ;-) >> >> You can have gratis support right here: >> >> http://ubuntuusers.de/ >> >> or (if you are not German) here: >> >> http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > It is completely pointless arguing which is the 'best' operating system, > when these should be invisible to the user and never require the use > of DOS-like text-based commands to fix bugs/incompatibilities. I wasn't arguing about what the "best" Operating System is. I merely offered the OP another money saving option. The OP of course is free to ignore ;-) [pointless Evangelism/Advocacy snipped] -- |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin |-|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040 |0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin Quote
Guest Marti van Lin Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Op 16-06-10 16:56, Frank wrote: > On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: >> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>>> decide >>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. >>>> But I >>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>>> >>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. >>>> They >>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on >>>> the >>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>>> tools >>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>>> machines. >>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>>> >>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>>> like to >>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>>> so long >>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>>> Problem >>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>>> that >>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>>> purchase >>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>>> >>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their >>>> Windows 7 >>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I >>>> know >>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>>> understand I >>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>>> analyst. I >>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe >>>> me. The >>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far >>>> I've >>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>>> Not >>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>>> typically >>>> had little if any problems. >>>> >>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>> get XP >>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>> to XP >>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>> >>>> Many Thanks, >>>> -JC >>>> >>>> >>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. >> >> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >> >> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same >> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in >> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. >> >> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is >> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. >> >> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for >> example? >> >> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's >> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) >> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) >> >> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply >> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 >> in a virtual machine. >> >> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am >> only a hobbyist home user ;-) >> >> You can have gratis support right here: >> >> http://ubuntuusers.de/ >> >> or (if you are not German) here: >> >> http://www.ubuntu.com/ >> >> With kind regards, >> > Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending. You are a Liar and a fraud! I'm not interested in arguing with a religious "what ever company, Operating System, distro" zealot :-p plonk -- |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin |-|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040 |0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin Quote
Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Marti van Lin wrote: > Op 16-06-10 16:56, Frank wrote: >> On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: >>> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >>>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>>>> decide >>>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. >>>>> But I >>>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>>>> >>>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. >>>>> They >>>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on >>>>> the >>>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>>>> tools >>>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>>>> machines. >>>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>>>> >>>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>>>> like to >>>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>>>> so long >>>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>>>> Problem >>>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>>>> that >>>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>>>> purchase >>>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>>>> >>>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their >>>>> Windows 7 >>>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I >>>>> know >>>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>>>> understand I >>>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>>>> analyst. I >>>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe >>>>> me. The >>>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far >>>>> I've >>>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>>>> Not >>>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>>>> typically >>>>> had little if any problems. >>>>> >>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>>> get XP >>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>>> to XP >>>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>>> >>>>> Many Thanks, >>>>> -JC >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >>>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. >>> >>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>> >>> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same >>> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in >>> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. >>> >>> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is >>> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. >>> >>> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for >>> example? >>> >>> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's >>> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) >>> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) >>> >>> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply >>> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 >>> in a virtual machine. >>> >>> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am >>> only a hobbyist home user ;-) >>> >>> You can have gratis support right here: >>> >>> http://ubuntuusers.de/ >>> >>> or (if you are not German) here: >>> >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/ >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> >> Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending. > > You are a Liar and a fraud! He's actually much worse. > > I'm not interested in arguing with a religious "what ever company, > Operating System, distro" zealot :-p > > plonk > And yet another person plonks Frank the Wank. -- Alias Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 9:30 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: > Op 16-06-10 16:56, Frank wrote: >> On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: >>> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >>>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>>>> decide >>>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. >>>>> But I >>>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>>>> >>>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. >>>>> They >>>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on >>>>> the >>>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>>>> tools >>>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>>>> machines. >>>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>>>> >>>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>>>> like to >>>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>>>> so long >>>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>>>> Problem >>>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>>>> that >>>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>>>> purchase >>>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>>>> >>>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their >>>>> Windows 7 >>>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I >>>>> know >>>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>>>> understand I >>>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>>>> analyst. I >>>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe >>>>> me. The >>>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far >>>>> I've >>>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! >>>>> Not >>>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>>>> typically >>>>> had little if any problems. >>>>> >>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>>> get XP >>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>>> to XP >>>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>>> >>>>> Many Thanks, >>>>> -JC >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very >>>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. >>> >>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>> >>> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same >>> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in >>> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. >>> >>> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is >>> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. >>> >>> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for >>> example? >>> >>> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because it's >>> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's etc.) >>> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) >>> >>> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply >>> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install Windows 98 >>> in a virtual machine. >>> >>> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am >>> only a hobbyist home user ;-) >>> >>> You can have gratis support right here: >>> >>> http://ubuntuusers.de/ >>> >>> or (if you are not German) here: >>> >>> http://www.ubuntu.com/ >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> >> Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending. > > You are a Liar and a fraud! Now you're projecting. > > I'm not interested in arguing with a religious "what ever company, > Operating System, distro" zealot :-p Then take your own advice and stop doing it. IOW's, STFU! > > plonk hehehe...got your panties all in a bunch linturd? > Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 10:11 AM, Alias wrote: > Marti van Lin wrote: >> Op 16-06-10 16:56, Frank wrote: >>> On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: >>>> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote: >>>>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote: >>>>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>>>>> decide >>>>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some >>>>>> input/feedback >>>>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. >>>>>> But I >>>>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. >>>>>> They >>>>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>>>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on >>>>>> the >>>>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>>>>> tools >>>>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>>>>> machines. >>>>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would >>>>>> like to >>>>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for >>>>>> so long >>>>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>>>>> Problem >>>>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it >>>>>> because >>>>>> that >>>>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to >>>>>> purchase >>>>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >>>>>> >>>>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their >>>>>> Windows 7 >>>>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I >>>>>> know >>>>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them >>>>>> understand I >>>>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data >>>>>> analyst. I >>>>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe >>>>>> me. The >>>>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far >>>>>> I've >>>>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at >>>>>> all! >>>>>> Not >>>>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've >>>>>> typically >>>>>> had little if any problems. >>>>>> >>>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer >>>>>> get XP >>>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients >>>>>> to XP >>>>>> at work would that not be possible? >>>>>> >>>>>> Many Thanks, >>>>>> -JC >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind >>>>> very >>>>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today. >>>> >>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in >>>> contrast >>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>>> >>>> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same >>>> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in >>>> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version. >>>> >>>> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is >>>> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different. >>>> >>>> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for >>>> example? >>>> >>>> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because >>>> it's >>>> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's >>>> etc.) >>>> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-) >>>> >>>> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply >>>> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install >>>> Windows 98 >>>> in a virtual machine. >>>> >>>> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am >>>> only a hobbyist home user ;-) >>>> >>>> You can have gratis support right here: >>>> >>>> http://ubuntuusers.de/ >>>> >>>> or (if you are not German) here: >>>> >>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/ >>>> >>>> With kind regards, >>>> >>> Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending. >> >> You are a Liar and a fraud! > > He's actually much worse. > You two linturds need to get a room. >> >> I'm not interested in arguing with a religious "what ever company, >> Operating System, distro" zealot :-p >> >> plonk >> > > And yet another person plonks Frank the Wank. Another linturd nobody (except you) gives a shit about. > Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 On 6/16/2010 8:36 AM, Marti van Lin wrote: > Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: >> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast >>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>> >> >> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are >> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting >> version ABC.ABC... > > There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update > manager. > > I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long > Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. > >> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support >> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. > > I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last > five years. > > If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under > GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported > right out of the box. > Now you're a GD LIAR, which is typical of you linutrd asshole losers. Just like alias, the sheep-fucking lying linturd POS loser asshole creep. Quote
Guest Frank Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 alias lies again! On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote: > Leythos wrote: >> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>> >>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: >>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in >>>>> contrast >>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>>>> >>>> >>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are >>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting >>>> version ABC.ABC... >>> >>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update >>> manager. >>> >>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long >>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. >>> >>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support >>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. >>> >>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last >>> five years. >>> >>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under >>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported >>> right out of the box. >> >> How many Epson printers do you have? > > I have a few and they work great with Linux. LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer. > >> >> How many Cannon printers do you have? > > Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault > and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way. LIAR! > >> >> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully >> operational with Linux? > > I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or > Windows 7 drivers though. > More of your lies? Figures! STFU LIAR! >> >> The list goes on. > > So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and > every printer ever made? Still making up things others never said. Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are. Get lost creep. > >> >> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out >> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux. >> > > Research before buying. You don't do that? Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today has drivers for Windows OS's. Live with it loser. > Quote
Guest Leythos Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 alias lies again! In article <4c19085b@news.x-privat.org>, fb@sr2.cmm says... > > On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote: > > Leythos wrote: > >> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... > >>> > >>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: > >>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... > >>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in > >>>>> contrast > >>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are > >>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting > >>>> version ABC.ABC... > >>> > >>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update > >>> manager. > >>> > >>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long > >>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. > >>> > >>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support > >>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. > >>> > >>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last > >>> five years. > >>> > >>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under > >>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported > >>> right out of the box. > >> > >> How many Epson printers do you have? > > > > I have a few and they work great with Linux. > > LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer. > > > >> > >> How many Cannon printers do you have? > > > > Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault > > and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way. > > LIAR! > > > >> > >> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully > >> operational with Linux? > > > > I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or > > Windows 7 drivers though. > > > More of your lies? > Figures! > STFU LIAR! > >> > >> The list goes on. > > > > So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and > > every printer ever made? > > Still making up things others never said. > Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are. > Get lost creep. > > > >> > >> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out > >> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux. > >> > > > > Research before buying. You don't do that? > > Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today > has drivers for Windows OS's. > Live with it loser. > > I have Alias kill filed, but it's obvious to anyone that's actually used Linux that he's lying, they have crappy printer support and a lot of the supported printers have basic controls and not the feature rich controls or options that are included with most Windows printer drivers. My video card, on one of my laptops, does not have a direct Windows 7 driver, but, something Alias would not know, is that the XP driver works perfectly and at all the same resolutions. On a Linux distro I can only get 1024x768, and since the laptop is a wide screen, the fonts are skewed. I can remember Alias bashing vist, claiming direct problems experience, and then he slipped up and admitted he had never installed Vista or even used it himself... -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) Quote
Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 alias lies again! Leythos wrote: > In article<4c19085b@news.x-privat.org>, fb@sr2.cmm says... >> >> On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote: >>> Leythos wrote: >>>> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>>>> >>>>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote: >>>>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says... >>>>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in >>>>>>> contrast >>>>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are >>>>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting >>>>>> version ABC.ABC... >>>>> >>>>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update >>>>> manager. >>>>> >>>>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long >>>>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress. >>>>> >>>>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support >>>>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last >>>>> five years. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under >>>>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported >>>>> right out of the box. >>>> >>>> How many Epson printers do you have? >>> >>> I have a few and they work great with Linux. >> >> LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer. >>> >>>> >>>> How many Cannon printers do you have? >>> >>> Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault >>> and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way. >> >> LIAR! >>> >>>> >>>> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully >>>> operational with Linux? >>> >>> I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or >>> Windows 7 drivers though. >>> >> More of your lies? >> Figures! >> STFU LIAR! >>>> >>>> The list goes on. >>> >>> So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and >>> every printer ever made? >> >> Still making up things others never said. >> Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are. >> Get lost creep. >>> >>>> >>>> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out >>>> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux. >>>> >>> >>> Research before buying. You don't do that? >> >> Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today >> has drivers for Windows OS's. >> Live with it loser. >>> > > I have Alias kill filed, but it's obvious to anyone that's actually used > Linux that he's lying, they have crappy printer support and a lot of the > supported printers have basic controls and not the feature rich controls > or options that are included with most Windows printer drivers. You obviously haven't installed the latest Ubuntu but that won't stop you from lying about it. > > My video card, on one of my laptops, does not have a direct Windows 7 > driver, but, something Alias would not know, is that the XP driver works > perfectly and at all the same resolutions. On a Linux distro I can only > get 1024x768, and since the laptop is a wide screen, the fonts are > skewed. Not Ubuntu. Probably one of the distros you say are "better". > > I can remember Alias bashing vist, claiming direct problems experience, > and then he slipped up and admitted he had never installed Vista or even > used it himself... > Got any more lies you can't substantiate? I find it interesting that you have me kill filed but don't have Frank kill filed. I guess your priorities are about as skewered as your version of the truth. -- Alias Quote
Guest Bill Yanaire, ESQ Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org... >> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It >> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the >> computer users who try that piece of shit OS. >> >> > > As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know what > the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this. > > -- > Alias There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu and realized that Ubuntu doesn't run the programs I need. Therefore Ubuntu is worthless. Oops. Quote
Guest Bill Yanaire, ESQ Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message news:hva5t6$8op$7@news.eternal-september.org... > On 06/16/2010 04:12 AM, atec7 7 > wrote: >> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of >>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu. >>> >>> >> Oh look another ill informed winblows apologist > > Not to mention too fucking stupid to install and run Ubuntu. > > -- > Alias I am smart enough to know SHIT when I see it. Ubuntu is just that: SHIT! Oops. Quote
Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: > > > "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message > news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org... >>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It >>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the >>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS. >>> >>> >> >> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know >> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this. >> >> -- >> Alias > > There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu No you haven't. -- Alias Quote
Guest Alias Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: > > > "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message > news:hva5t6$8op$7@news.eternal-september.org... >> On 06/16/2010 04:12 AM, atec7 7 > wrote: >>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of >>>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu. >>>> >>>> >>> Oh look another ill informed winblows apologist >> >> Not to mention too fucking stupid to install and run Ubuntu. >> >> -- >> Alias > > I am smart enough to know SHIT when I see it. No, you're not. Ubuntu is just that: SHIT! No it isn't. > Oops. You are an oops, I agree. -- Alias Quote
Guest Neil Harrington Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 "Sj" <Sj@NOTforMAIL.not> wrote in message news:ifbf16ho5msvnj6vgb64qionouchvcs59o@4ax.com... > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:37:22 -0500, "JC" <jjcardella@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I >>decide >>to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback >>towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I >>will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post. >> >>For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They >>actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical >>laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the >>server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated >>tools >>(Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 >>machines. >>Anyway, that is neither here nor there. >> >>My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like >>to >>upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so >>long >>(and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. >>Problem >>is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because >>that >>is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase >>XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7. >> >>A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7 >>machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know >>everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand >>I >>am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I >>keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The >>handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've >>found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not >>knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically >>had little if any problems. >> >>So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP >>(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP >>at work would that not be possible? >> >>Many Thanks, >>-JC > > Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet! No, I'll bet there are still a lot of us using Win2000. > > Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I > have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer. > > My thoughts were to format the HD & install XP. Is that doable > on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode. > > I'm completely satisfied w/ my 2000 system & will stay w/ it till it > quits on me. [ . . . ] I have two Win2000 systems and I believe they are the only computers that have never given me any trouble of any kind. I've got three WinXP systems also (four if you count a little Samsung netbook), and I like XP very much, but its only real advantage over 2000 as far as I'm concerned is that nowadays it has significantly more support for both hardware and software. Quote
Guest Bill Yanaire, ESQ Posted June 16, 2010 Posted June 16, 2010 "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message news:hvb8ao$tcg$1@news.eternal-september.org... > Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote: >> >> >> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message >> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org... >>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It >>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the >>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know >>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this. >>> >>> -- >>> Alias >> >> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu > > No you haven't. > > -- > Alias You haven't got the money to purchase a legitimate copy of Windows 7. Quote
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