Phantom Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Is mankind more prone to evil or kindness? Do you feel people begin life with a clean slate but are influenced by their environment concerning character development? Do you feel people are inherently selfish at birth and must be taught good values? If you have any religious beliefs, does this sway your opinion? Quote Blah.
builder Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 I'm good. And then I'm evil. How many questions could you cram into a paragraph anyways, Phanton? Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
Phantom Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 I'm good. And then I'm evil. Most schizos are. How many questions could you cram into a paragraph anyways, Phanton? Tons! But I limit the amount to prevent the discussions from becoming too tedious. Need to get you people out of the shout box somehow. Quote Blah.
Chi Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Is mankind more prone to evil or kindness? Do you feel people begin life with a clean slate but are influenced by their environment concerning character development? Do you feel people are inherently selfish at birth and must be taught good values? If you have any religious beliefs, does this sway your opinion? I think most people are good. Yes, most of us tend to be selfish a lot here and there, but most of us also have good intentions and try to be good, decent human beings as well. And yes, some people just seem to be predisponed evil for some reason. Like they were brought up in a good home, with good parents and family yet they still have to be evil. And then there are those who started out being normal/ average/good then became evil because of circumstances in their environment- abuse, lack of parental guidance and care, love, etc. And THEN, there are those who had horrible, crappy lives and STILL remain being good, decent people. So basically, it can go many different ways. One of those nature/nurture struggles. I would say nurture most often wins when it comes to being evil or good, but then there are also many cases when nature is so powerful it prevails, but that as often. Quote
tiredofwhiners Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Depends how you look at it. Lets say a person with money, to get there they most likely squashed some little people to get there...evil? To your average or poor person yep but to another rich person nope just part of business. But if that same person gave money away to good charities, those same poor and average people might think he's good, where other rich people might think he's for evil making them look bad. Quote AA's for quitters...i'm no quitter!
Phantom Posted November 8, 2006 Author Posted November 8, 2006 I think most people are good. Yes, most of us tend to be selfish a lot here and there, but most of us also have good intentions and try to be good, decent human beings as well. I believe most people are born shit heads. This is why small children constantly yell, "MINE!" and "NO!" It's after their little bottoms are spanked that they are trained to be productive members of society. And yes, some people just seem to be predisponed evil for some reason. Like they were brought up in a good home, with good parents and family yet they still have to be evil. And then there are those who started out being normal/ average/good then became evil because of circumstances in their environment- abuse, lack of parental guidance and care, love, etc. And THEN, there are those who had horrible, crappy lives and STILL remain being good, decent people. Very true. Everyone is tempted but character is decided by one's actions. Quote Blah.
kokorosenshi Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Is mankind more prone to evil or kindness? Do you feel people begin life with a clean slate but are influenced by their environment concerning character development? Do you feel people are inherently selfish at birth and must be taught good values? If you have any religious beliefs, does this sway your opinion? well, my curiousity makes me evil. like that time i destroyed a game system to find out what it was made out of, hey, i was 6 but people also make me evil, mainly when they piss me off. Quote I love to masturbate with a handful of shit! Keeps them blisters in check!
Phantom Posted November 24, 2006 Author Posted November 24, 2006 well, my curiousity makes me evil. like that time i destroyed a game system to find out what it was made out of, hey, i was 6 That isn't being evil- that is being inquisitive. but people also make me evil, mainly when they piss me off. Don't let the actions of others dictate your character. Quote Blah.
Ctrl Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 I guess you really need to define good/evil. I think people are self serving. Quote
hugo Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Babies are very selfish creatures. They must be taught not to be anti-social. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Ctrl Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Why must you teach them that? Because YOU want a better society? All people are self serving. Quote
RoyalOrleans Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 Evil will always beat Good because Good is dumb. - Dark Helmet We are only as evil as our goodness. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
Phantom Posted November 25, 2006 Author Posted November 25, 2006 I guess you really need to define good/evil. I think people are self serving. Hm... Well, let's see (and anyone can add in their own definitions). Good: Giving, tender-hearted, moralistic, kind, harmless (unless provoked) Evil: Selfish, wicked, having the ability to harm others for their own benefit, criminal, etc. Babies are very selfish creatures. They must be taught not to be anti-social. Does antisocial = selfish? Most babies love to play with other kids and love the companionship. Regardless, being reclusive or preferring your own company doesn't necessarily mean selfish by default, does it? Quote Blah.
hugo Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 Hm... Well, let's see (and anyone can add in their own definitions). Good: Giving, tender-hearted, moralistic, kind, harmless (unless provoked) Evil: Selfish, wicked, having the ability to harm others for their own benefit, criminal, etc. Does antisocial = selfish? Most babies love to play with other kids and love the companionship. Regardless, being reclusive or preferring your own company doesn't necessarily mean selfish by default, does it? Place a bottle between 'em and see what happens. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Phantom Posted November 25, 2006 Author Posted November 25, 2006 Place a bottle between 'em and see what happens. No, no. I understand that. You confused me with the merging of selfish/anti-social. But I agreed with your statement in an earlier comment: I believe most people are born shit heads. This is why small children constantly yell, "MINE!" and "NO!" It's after their little bottoms are spanked that they are trained to be productive members of society. Quote Blah.
hugo Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 Being a pack animal I'm betting there is a biological impetus toward sociability as a child ages. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
RoyalOrleans Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 well, my curiousity makes me evil. like that time i destroyed a game system to find out what it was made out of, hey, i was 6 but people also make me evil, mainly when they piss me off. Your game system was made out of hay? What kind of shitheel parents do you have, Koko? They couldn't afford a fucking Sega so they stole an empty box and filled it with hay? Unbelievable! Inconceivable! Look! I know a guy that runs Toys for Tots... we can reclaim your childhood with a real Sega, if you like. 1 Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 Your game system was made out of hay? What kind of shitheel parents do you have, Koko? They couldn't afford a fucking Sega so they stole an empty box and filled it with hay? Unbelievable! Inconceivable! Look! I know a guy that runs Toys for Tots... we can reclaim your childhood with a real Sega, if you like. And I thought my parents stunk. Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
Phantom Posted November 25, 2006 Author Posted November 25, 2006 Your game system was made out of hay? What kind of shitheel parents do you have, Koko? They couldn't afford a fucking Sega so they stole an empty box and filled it with hay? Unbelievable! Inconceivable! Look! I know a guy that runs Toys for Tots... we can reclaim your childhood with a real Sega, if you like. OMFG! Not that it matters, but REP! Quote Blah.
morgansaysthis Posted December 27, 2006 Posted December 27, 2006 society trys to force us to be selfless heros who love to give and not recive humans are animals, and there no shame in that, just try to be as good as you think you should be, if you uphold your own morals your a good person Quote
ParasiteGod Posted December 28, 2006 Posted December 28, 2006 The concept of Good and Evil is one of those things that relies on the eye of the beholder. What seems evil to me might not be evil to you, vice versa. So, by that logic, I guess we're all evil. We're all good too. There's this societal list, though, of deeds that we are expected to think are evil. There is also a list of what we should think are good. And before someone gets smart with me, no it's not a literal list. Shut up. I think we're born somewhat neutral, and then our good/evilness is simply conditioning. But how well can you be conditioned? How will you be conditioned? Most of us probably find the idea of cannibalism repulsive. [attach=full]1100[/attach] I don't think this person does. And neither did that guy in Germany. Some of us think abortion is absolutely horrible, and wish to persecute those who don't. Some of us are under the impression that homosexuality is a sin, and the gays are all going to burn in hell. I'm not even going to go into what PETA thinks. So really, the question gets a little complicated sometimes. <rant>We had to write an essay about this one time, and there was even a class discussion. My teacher pretty much shot down everything I bothered to say. It didn't match his opinions and that scared the living hell out of him. And then when my essay had pretty much the same ideas I'd shared before, he didn't even bother to fail my paper. He simply gave me a no credit, which is worse than a failing grade, because I "didn't do the assignment". Excuse me, the assignment was to talk about what I thought about good and evil and which one humans were more inclined to follow, and that's exactly what I did. But because it didn't go with what he thought, I got a no credit? Fuck that.</rant> ...Anyway. I'm gonna say we're born neutral, and don't find good or evil until later. Quote I want to report a double murder. If you go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find kids in a brown car. They were shot with a 9mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year. Good bye Brooks, I like you. Now get out of here. Go home.
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