The muslims in Britain

[shiek-yerbouti]

A quick note to point out that shiek-yerbouti, is not sheik-yerbouti.

 

This clown is a gay leftie student, who has followed me here from another debate forum to continue pestering me. He chooses this name to cause confusion. Hopefully the mods will deal with this attempted deception.

 

 

Oh dear, no answer then, now why am I not surprised.

[Aquae Arnemetiae.]

Just a few questions, supposing you had Muslim familys that had lived here for generations who's say great grand-fathers were from a different country such as Pakistan, which incidently has helped the west to capture Islamic extremists, would you send them back even if they were born here and lived their whole life here in peace?

Supposing then that country refused to take them what would you do then?

Would you also expel all Saudi Arabian citizens from the UK?

If you did I think you could have a problem here as it's certain the oil supplies would be cut off, how would you explain to people why the lights were going out?

Would you ban the practicing of the Muslim religion? Even Hitler allowed Jews the right to pray, do you consider yourself more extreme than him? I'd be interested to hear your response to these points.

 

Hello Shiek

 

You live in the UK, Muslim terrorists from your own town have been tried and convicted of planning to blow up targets in the UK. Apparently they were considering the Bluewater shopping centre, the Ministry of Sound nightclub (they described the people who go there as slags) or other places such as synagogues or gas and electricity supplies.

 

So......no need to worry about expelling Pakistanis or Saudis, sounds like they are planning to cut off power supplies in any case. I would certainly consider banning the practicing of the Muslim religion, there must be decent law abiding Muslims, but they seem unwilling or unable to root out the growing bands of extremists in their midst. Please don`t tell me that all the decent Muslims are unaware of what is going on, some of them at least must know, and if they cannot sort it out themselves then I think we should.

 

The Hitler and the Jews situation isn`t really a good analogy, as far as I am aware the Jews were not using the synagogues to preach hatred of the Germans or trying to radicalise the congregation.

 

Didn`t Henry VIII set a precedent by the dissolution of the monasteries?, and the outlawing of Catholicism?. He must be spinning in his grave now, watch out that he doesn`t come for you!

 

It seems to me that the Muslims take everything on offer here, whilst all the time despising us for it, and then flout our laws and demand things that disadvantage the indigenous population.

[shiek-yerbouti]

The question was not to you bu sheik Yerbouti, who would expel all muslims.

however if you've inisted on answering it I'm still not sure if you'd expel Pakistanis with no links to terror orginisations and have lived here for two or three generations or Saudis.

 

If you were to expel the Saudis retalitory action would be sure to follow not only from Saudi arabis but also from the USA who consider Saudi Arabia to be a major ally.

You say the analogy to Hitler is not a good one, I say it's an excellent one, my namesake SheikYerbouti supports an orginisationn who's leaders admire and in the past have openly supported the policies of Hitler,

 

Also we have people who were Christians but have converted to Islam, are they to be expelled too?

Your assertion the Muslims "know what si going on" is naive in the extreme. It would be like saying all Irish people knew IRA terrorists during thei campaign of violence.

 

Finally you say you would "consider " bann ing the Muslim religion, it's all so ironic you quote HenryVII. You are obvoiusly against freedom of religious choice and religious expression, in the middle ages religions were banned, people used to live in fear of expressing their true beliefs for fear of persecution, how sad you advocate a return to such times.

HenryvII's daughter used to burn people alive for practising thr protestant religion.

 

 

I have always been against people from the extreme right, your veiws and vision of society reinforces that belief.

[shiek-yerbouti]

Hello Shiek

 

You live in the UK, Muslim terrorists from your own town have been tried and convicted of planning to blow up targets in the UK. Apparently they were considering the Bluewater shopping centre, the Ministry of Sound nightclub (they described the people who go there as slags) or other places such as synagogues or gas and electricity supplies.

 

So......no need to worry about expelling Pakistanis or Saudis, sounds like they are planning to cut off power supplies in any case. I would certainly consider banning the practicing of the Muslim religion, there must be decent law abiding Muslims, but they seem unwilling or unable to root out the growing bands of extremists in their midst. Please don`t tell me that all the decent Muslims are unaware of what is going on, some of them at least must know, and if they cannot sort it out themselves then I think we should.

 

The Hitler and the Jews situation isn`t really a good analogy, as far as I am aware the Jews were not using the synagogues to preach hatred of the Germans or trying to radicalise the congregation.

 

Didn`t Henry VIII set a precedent by the dissolution of the monasteries?, and the outlawing of Catholicism?. He must be spinning in his grave now, watch out that he doesn`t come for you!

 

It seems to me that the Muslims take everything on offer here, whilst all the time despising us for it, and then flout our laws and demand things that disadvantage the indigenous population.

 

I see so because Islamic extremists were plotting to bomb installations we needn't worry about the Saudis cutting off the oil.

 

Gosh what fabulous logic, still at least we'll be in the dark anyway.

 

So Hitler isn't a good analogy yet you're talking about banning people their religious freedom?

On reflection I'd say Hitler is an excellent analogy.

You refer to Henry VIII, how ironic when you consider his daughter used to burn people alive for practising the "wrong" religion.

 

Incidently interesting though your reply was, my question was directed to my namesake Sheik-Yerbouti not you.

[sheik-yerbouti]

Hello Shiek

 

You live in the UK, Muslim terrorists from your own town have been tried and convicted of planning to blow up targets in the UK. Apparently they were considering the Bluewater shopping centre, the Ministry of Sound nightclub (they described the people who go there as slags) or other places such as synagogues or gas and electricity supplies.

 

So......no need to worry about expelling Pakistanis or Saudis, sounds like they are planning to cut off power supplies in any case. I would certainly consider banning the practicing of the Muslim religion, there must be decent law abiding Muslims, but they seem unwilling or unable to root out the growing bands of extremists in their midst. Please don`t tell me that all the decent Muslims are unaware of what is going on, some of them at least must know, and if they cannot sort it out themselves then I think we should.

 

The Hitler and the Jews situation isn`t really a good analogy, as far as I am aware the Jews were not using the synagogues to preach hatred of the Germans or trying to radicalise the congregation.

 

Didn`t Henry VIII set a precedent by the dissolution of the monasteries?, and the outlawing of Catholicism?. He must be spinning in his grave now, watch out that he doesn`t come for you!

 

It seems to me that the Muslims take everything on offer here, whilst all the time despising us for it, and then flout our laws and demand things that disadvantage the indigenous population.

 

Good points AA

[shiek-yerbouti]

Good points AA

 

I don't agree wiyh you there Sheik I don't think it was.

[Aquae Arnemetiae.]

I don't agree wiyh you there Sheik I don't think it was.

 

Oi Shiek! You know my feelings on these matters, don`t argue...you know I am right.

[Rose Hill]

I usually don’t have anything good to say about Islam but I think you two are going a little overboard with it. We do need them to be accountable. Hate speeches or the promotion of terror should be reported by these so call moderate Muslims. But to condemn the whole religion is wrong too.

 

Quite right too.

 

In my area of a northern seaside town we all get along together very well.

 

Immigrants need to adopt the culture of the host community, learn the language etc. If they do that they are welcome. If not, it would be better that they never came.

 

Of course, there will always be the odd arsehole - take it away sheik-yerbouti - who spoils it for everyone but who said that life was perfect?

[Rose Hill]

A quick note to point out that shiek-yerbouti, is not sheik-yerbouti.

 

This clown is a gay leftie student, who has followed me here from another debate forum to continue pestering me. He chooses this name to cause confusion. Hopefully the mods will deal with this attempted deception.

 

There is egocentric, and then there is sheik-yerbouti

[Aquae Arnemetiae.]

Quite right too.

 

In my area of a northern seaside town we all get along together very well.

 

Immigrants need to adopt the culture of the host community, learn the language etc. If they do that they are welcome. If not, it would be better that they never came.

 

Of course, there will always be the odd arsehole - take it away sheik-yerbouti - who spoils it for everyone but who said that life was perfect?

 

Hi Rose

 

I know we Brits are probably the masters of understatement, but to describe the ingrates who are plotting to bomb us any time any place anywhere as "the odd arsehole" is going a teensy bit far I think.

[TooDrunkToFuck]

Occasionally there's some good debate at this forum, but there's a lot of threads like this where people just point fingers without actually trying to be fair or accurate. It's like this place has become more and more of a flame forum ...

[snafu]

Occasionally there's some good debate at this forum, but there's a lot of threads like this where people just point fingers without actually trying to be fair or accurate. It's like this place has become more and more of a flame forum ...

 

Yeah well fuck you, you toad..

[Aquae Arnemetiae.]

Occasionally there's some good debate at this forum, but there's a lot of threads like this where people just point fingers without actually trying to be fair or accurate. It's like this place has become more and more of a flame forum ...

 

Where do you live then?