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What about "cracker"?

There is nothing you could say to insult me for being white. Its like a guy sitting in a '85 chevette insulting another for driving a corvette.

 

Shit, I thought what Michael Richards said and did was utterly fucking hilarious. I laughed and laughed. That shit was too funny. What he did that pisses me off is when he apologized for his behavior. No need for that. Thats backpedaling. If that was Martin Lawrence up there yelling "throw his ass out, hes a cracker", you would never even have heard of this unless you were there. Minorities fight for equal rights, well I say we get equal rights to "joke" about them the same way they joke about us. But that isn't the case. Whites can't say these things without having the label of racist adhered to them. Those blacks were being rude to Mr Richards and interrupting his act. He called them out and slammed them. Fair game.

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What exactly is "White heritage"? Certainly it isn't simply "European" as many white people don't have European ancestry.

 

It isn't OK to take personal pride in anything that isn't your own accomplishment... and your race and heritage are not accomplishments. Anyone who must look to genetics and lineage for a sense of pride has to have lived one shameful life.

 

 

 

Why is it you believe the statement you made is true? Who told you that? Have you checked it out your self or did you just grasp on to the first thing someone said that you could use to claim you are being treated unfairly?

 

Murders are not deemed hate crimes based on the color of someone's skin. They are deemed hate crimes based on the motive behind the crime. If a car load of black guys go looking for a white guy to kill and end up killing one... that is a hate crime. If the same car load of black guys go looking for someone to rob and they end up killing a white guy in the process of robbing him... that is not a hate crime.

 

Hate crimes are almost impossible to prove. The only ones that actually fly on a regular basis are the crimes committed by hate-groups suck as the KKK, Skinheads, Neo-nazis, etc. Those prosecutions work because the criminals are typically known members of the hate-group, with tatoos all over their bodies, they video-tape their crimes, and there is no other logical motive for the crime.

 

The reason for hate-crime legislation.. well.. look at the Twin Towers... oh ya.. you can't. They aren't there.

 

Terrorism is hate-crime that has been allowed to grow and permeate everything around it. The largest terrorist organizations in the world started out as small hate-groups.. who were anti-isreal or anti-sunni or anti-shia.. or anti-christian.. etc.

 

Ok obviously you and I come from very different places. Just because something is true for me and not you doesn't mean I'm wrong. Hate crime is probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard of. But in the case I mentioned before, people around here go "AHAHA OMG HATE CRIME LOLZ!!1"

White heritage is whatever background you have that makes you white.

...I think you read way too far into my posts. No, it's really funny. Continue.

And as for my thing about not being okay to pride yourself: You see clubs for Latinos and Asians and stuff... KEEP IN MIND I'M IN HIGH SCHOOL SO IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN WHEREVER YOU ARE DOESN'T MEAN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVER... but if I did something that had anything to do with "Hey man, I'm white^^", then oh no, I'm a racist. That's funny, cause last I checked, I live in a place where whites are the minority. Note: No, I'm not 100% European either. I'm Choctaw and Cherokee, though my background is predominantly European.

Anyway allow me to apologize for not living in the same kind of community that you do. Yeah, I guess that does make me wrong.

I want to report a double murder. If you go one mile east on Columbus Parkway to the public park, you will find kids in a brown car. They were shot with a 9mm Luger. I also killed those kids last year. Good bye

 

Brooks, I like you. Now get out of here. Go home.

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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_Police_TV_Show.html

 

Now THAT is fucking comedy.. Kramer could take a lesson from them.

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What I find interesting about that article is why would he ask them to rap? Was it discrimination, because he assumed since they're black that they like rap and know how to rap.

It shows Sgt. Chuck Schoville pulling over two men in August in a mall parking lot.
A mall parking lot. Two young guys. A slick car with spinners. My guess, and this is just a hypothesis, that they had rap music cranked and thats why he asked them to rap. Shit that cop was cool as the other side of the pillow with those dudes. Notice also that they themselves didn't complain, as the police department didn't even know their names because no report was filed.

 

I'd like to see more about this. Civil groups that cause a big fuss over shit like that is sort of a pet peeve of mine. I fucking bet my left nut that those fellas were bumpin some rap music when he pulled them over.

i am sofa king we todd did.
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Just last week a black cop pulled me over when I had a beer in my hand violating the fascist no open container law. Fortunately, he gave me the option of singing a country western song in lieu of a ticket.

 

I Like Beer

In some of my songs I have casually mentioned

The fact that I like to drink beer

This little song is more to the point

Roll out the barrel and lend me your ears

 

(chorus)

I like beer. it makes me a jolly good fellow

I like beer. it helps me unwind and sometimes it makes me feel mellow (makes him feel mellow)

Whiskey

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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What exactly is "White heritage"? Certainly it isn't simply "European" as many white people don't have European ancestry.

 

It isn't OK to take personal pride in anything that isn't your own accomplishment... and your race and heritage are not accomplishments. Anyone who must look to genetics and lineage for a sense of pride has to have lived one shameful life.

Being proud of one's heritage does not mean you lead a shameful life. It might mean you have a bit too much time on your hands, but it certainly doesn't reflect on your character. Genealogy is fascinating and many of my family members are interested in it. I am proud of the fact that one of my ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Why? Because I think it

Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. ;)

 

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:rolleyes:

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That reminds me of a Dave Chapelle skit wherein the various races hold a draft to claim celebrities of ambiguous racial composition, as their own. If I remember correctly the Blacks got Tiger Woods.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCSjKefVk4I

I love Dave Chappelle. He gets away with crap no white person would ever get away with.

Smart men learn from their own mistakes; Wise men learn from others. ;)

 

I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.:rolleyes:

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Hi, I'm gay.

 

 

Good for you.

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The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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Being proud of one's heritage does not mean you lead a shameful life. It might mean you have a bit too much time on your hands, but it certainly doesn't reflect on your character.

 

White Pride and Black Pride and Hispanic Pride are ludicrous. WHY on earth would someone be proud of their race? WHAT about your skin color and genetics is so fucking outstanding that you should look to it as a source of PRIDE?

 

[quote[Genealogy is fascinating and many of my family members are interested in it. I am proud of the fact that one of my ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Why? Because I think it

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CMF, you're an angry person, on the pride issue that you so eloquently addressed, being an American instills pride in me, i didn't work at a soup kitchen, or give some lazy homeless bum my money, but I'm proud, because I'm an American. And my family comes from England and Germany (and many other places) I'm proud that I'm a mutt, and proud that I'm part German, what's wrong with that? You act like you have lots of answers, and you seem to think you're somehow better than people, you need a fucking reality check.

 

EDIT: and btw, if you really do teach aversion to drugs, you problably fail miserably, you talk down to people, contradict yourself, are a hypocrite, and are a general bitch to people. You are the kind of person that make people go, "well fuck, the whole system thinks I'm a piece of shit and gave up on me I'm just gonna shoot up anyway" but you get paid no matter what they do don't you.

 

(it's rude, but it's how i feel)

Your stupidity is My weapon

 

WARNING! my mood and mental state are strongly influenced by music and T.V./movies..... i may seem the slightest bit insane.. just don't let me watch my favorite show and or listen to my music and it will all be alright. :D

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According to the most popular theory we are all of African descent.

The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman

 

 

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison

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White Pride and Black Pride and Hispanic Pride are ludicrous. WHY on earth would someone be proud of their race? WHAT about your skin color and genetics is so fucking outstanding that you should look to it as a source of PRIDE?
Amen. I have never looked in the mirror and consciously thought, 'hey...I'm white'.
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WHAT about your skin color and genetics is so fucking outstanding that you should look to it as a source of PRIDE?

 

There is absolutely NO reason that having ancestors who came over on the mayflower should be a source of PRIDE for you.. anymore than having ancestors who came over on slave ships should be a source of PRIDE for any of their descendents. How people got to this country hundreds of years ago had absolutely NOTHING to do with anything you have ever said or done and doesn't make you any more worthy of anything at all.

 

Your ancestors? Please...

 

My, my. We are awfully busy picking on all the lovely ladies, aren't we? Sounds like someone needs to read my thread Trifling Forum Ho's. :D

 

Having ancestors that arrived on the Mayflower is a pretty cool thing. Your basic argument is that no one should take pride in another's accomplishments or in something that they themselves did not accomplish. No one is able to "earn" their race nor is anyone able to ride on the coats of their distant ancestors (I understand your points there). But, I personally think having ancestors who were on the Mayflower IS something to be proud of. Just like anyone should be proud if their child, spouse, or relative did something that became noted in history.

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I personally think having ancestors who were on the Mayflower IS something to be proud of.
Using that logic dictates that you should feel shame for the slave trade in early America. Do you feel shame for the atrocities of your ancestors since you want to reap the pride of their accomplishments? If not you're a hypocrite.
i am sofa king we todd did.
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Using that logic dictates that you should feel shame for the slave trade in early America. Do you feel shame for the atrocities of your ancestors since you want to reap the pride of their accomplishments? If not you're a hypocrite.

 

What if Tori's ancestors were not slave traders?

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What if Tori's ancestors were not slave traders?

Well back then you didn't have to actually be a 'slave trader' to carry some of the burden for the acceptance of this practice. After all, how many people were actually on the mayflower? Like 40-50 wasn't it?

 

My point was to say that it seems inherent in the white culture to be proud of the Mayflower immigrants. Yet anytime you ask a white person if they feel shame for the perpetuation of the slave trade, they say "Hell no. It wasn't me. I never owned a slave". Well, you never sailed on the Mayflower either. Nor did your ancestors.

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CMF, you're an angry person

:) <<< Better?

 

being an American instills pride in me,

 

Which definition of PRIDE does something outside of you instill in you...?

 

pride

 

Definition:

 

1. satisfaction with self: the happy satisfied feeling somebody experiences when having or achieving something special that other people admire

 

2. proper sense of own value: the correct level of respect for the importance and value of your personal character, life, efforts, or achievements

 

3. feeling of superiority: a haughty attitude shown by somebody who believes, often unjustifiably, that he or she is better than others

 

4. source of personal satisfaction: something such as an achievement or possession that somebody feels especially pleased and satisfied with

 

5. best time: the best condition or period of something ( literary )

 

6. group of lions: a group of lions, usually consisting of up to a dozen related adult females, their cubs and juveniles, plus from one to six adult males

 

I'm guessing it's #3... Because the others require that you either actually ACCOMPLISH or POSSESS something YOURSELF that is SPECIAL or UNIQUE to you... and we Americans aren't exactly rare... or that you be a feline. And while you may pass for a She-Man... I doubt that you are a feline.

 

Myself? I am HAPPY as fuck to be an American. I can't think of anywhere else on earth I would rather be... And I am PROUD that I am doing my part to make sure it will be a little better for me having been here.

 

Let me spell this whole pride in race, heritage, nationality thing out for you so you can better understand my point.

 

Let’s say there are twin brothers... both of whom are White Americans. Both were raised incredibly poor in the same American home with the same family in the same community. One graduated high school, worked his own way through college and earned an Engineering degree. Then he worked his way up the ladder, married a good woman and adopted two children and raised them as his own, complete with a safe, moral, beautiful and loving home for them to grow up in... in a neighborhood with an outstanding school system. He also assured that they had a mother and father to accompany them to the events that are important to kids and teenagers, and set aside college tuition for them so that they wouldn't have to struggle the way he did.

 

The other twin dropped out of school for what he thought would be an easier life... a life of petty crime and "hanging out on the corner" with his drop-out friends. He then made a child, abused it's mother and then physically and financially abandoned that child for the life of a homeless drug addict, spent his life in and out of prison for drug related crimes, burglary, domestic violence, assault on police officers, and eventually ended up molesting a 9 year old child and went to prison for 30 years... where he had "White Pride" tattooed on his chest.

 

Which of those twins do YOU think is more likely to claim his RACE and / or nationality as a source of PRIDE?

 

At what point do you think one begins to look to things other than their own DEEDS in order to find a reason to be proud?

 

Here is a hint... there are more white-separatists / supremacists, black-panthers, the Nation of Islam, etc. in California prisons ALONE... than there are volunteering at the Red Cross, nursing homes, hospitals, soup kitchens, working at Dell computers, Microsoft, Samsung, Sony, and Motorola combined.

 

i didn't work at a soup kitchen, or give some lazy homeless bum my money, but I'm proud, because I'm an American
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Did you give your money to some lazy poverty-stricken child?

 

John Couey is an American. If that is all it should take to justify a sense of pride... we should all be proud of him. Yet for some reason I don't think I could force myself to say "John Couey is an American.. and I am damn proud of him for that!".. And I sure as hell don't like the thought of him behind bars touting his American citizenship and feeling that he should be proud.

 

Don't start taking pride in in your American citizenship until you are certain you are someone whose deeds are something other Americans don't have to be ashamed of.

 

EDIT: and btw, if you really do teach aversion to drugs, you problably fail miserably,

 

Well.. if anyone tries to teach aversion to anything they would fail unless they are dealing with mindless sheep. Aversion is the kind of thing one typically develops due to bad personal experiences with whatever their aversion is toward... not because someone else said they shouldn't like it.

 

Oh.. wait... I'm talking down to you again.. aren't I? Well I guess I should just pretend you aren't a dumb ass so you don't feel talked down to.

 

you talk down to people, contradict yourself, are a hypocrite, and are a general bitch to people.

 

I contradict myself? This coming from someone who claimed a guy was shot because he had a warrant out for his arrest for not wearing a seat belt... this coming from a guy who says QUOTAS are employment LAW in the USA...

 

If you can't hang in a debate with some of us... don't attempt to debate us. Expecting that we will pretend you aren't stupid so that you don't feel "talked down to" is a pathetic cry for preferential treatment.

 

And I don't contradict myself, you fucking tard. I contradict YOU. Do try to keep up. And I am not a bitch to PEOPLE... I am a bitch to stupid people.

 

You are the kind of person that make people go, "well fuck, the whole system thinks I'm a piece of shit and gave up on me I'm just gonna shoot up anyway" but you get paid no matter what they do don't you.

 

(it's rude, but it's how i feel

 

Hands you tissue and vagisil ...

 

Get out of blame land. A junkie will always find a reason to shoot up if that's what they want to do.. and anyone who looks at an encounter on a message board as a reason to say "o boo fucking hoo the whole system thinks I'm a failure.. sob... sniffle .. I think I will shoot up... boo fucking hoo" was just looking for an excuse anyway.. so fuck them and fuck you.

 

The kids I work with learn... But then again they aren't so stupid as to think they already know everything because they read it in chain e-mails.

 

I don’t make anyone feel anything. What you feel in any given situation is on you... not me or anyone else. I am not responsible for your feelings and I am not here to fix your issues. I am here for MY entertainment.. not YOUR benefit or anyone else’s. If your labia are too sensitive for this kind of forum... I suggest you go look for a gentler venue in which to set your self up to take a fucking.

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My, my. We are awfully busy picking on all the lovely ladies, aren't we? Sounds like someone needs to read my thread Trifling Forum Ho's. :D

 

I wasn't aware Msixty was a woman... Or are you suggesting that I SHOULD go easier on the women?

 

Sorry chick. There are no women or men here. Only Ones and Zeros. If you are here for whoring and such... that's your issue.

 

Having ancestors that arrived on the Mayflower is a pretty cool thing.

 

Lance Amrstrong won the Tour de France 7 years in a row. That's pretty cool too... He should be DAMN proud of that and I am happy as hell for him. I am not proud of it, though... because I didn't do it.

 

But, I personally think having ancestors who were on the Mayflower IS something to be proud of. Just like anyone should be proud if their child, spouse, or relative did something that became noted in history.

 

We raise our children to be the kinds of people they are.. While we really can't take personal pride in their accomplishments... we can and should take pride in the fact that they are good and decent people... but only if we are also willing to take responsibility if they turn out to be fucked up shit-heads.

 

That's the thing about taking someone else on as a source of pride for your self. If their GOOD deeds are yours to be proud of.. then all the terrible shit they do is yours to be ashamed of as well.

 

Reparations anyone?

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Mary (Norris) Allerton

Elizabeth (Fisher) Hopkins

Joan (Hurst) Tilley

 

 

^^^ If one of those is NOT your ancestor... she did not come over on the Mayflower... as those were the only women on the Mayflower when it arrived at Plynouth Rock.

 

http://www.mayflower.org/pilgrim.htm

 

(Correction.. those were the only women from the mayflower who lived long enough to procreate and be anyone's ancestors)

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What about the men??? or don't they count in the gene pool because they are boring and stupid? and intimidated by intelligent women....etc....

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I think she said great great great grandmother or something like that..

 

I guess that could have been a man... if he was French.

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