Guest Bill M Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the creations of man. If there was a REAL god he would destroy the thousands of false gods and establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his heaven. If man can communicate with the whole world by Phone, Radio, the Internet and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god to communicate directly with his creations. There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs. They can't all be true and no real god would permit this massive deception of his creations. Major religions; Baha'i Faith Buddhism Adventist Jehovah's Witnesses British Israelism Southern Baptists American Baptists Catholics Christian Science Amish Brethren Mennonites Quakers Shakers Plymouth Brethren Fundamentalists Twin Oaks Confucianism Hinduism Islam Jainism Judaism Shinto Sikhism Taoism Vodun (Voodoo) Neopagan Religious Faiths Asatru (Norse Paganism) Druidism Goddess Worship Wicca Witchcraft Caodaism Damanhur Community Druse Eckankar Elian Gonzalez religious movement Gnosticism Gypsies Hare Krishna - ISKCON Lukumi Macumba Mowahhidoon Native American Spirituality Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies) Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement Satanism; The Church of Satan Scientology Unitarian-Universalism The Creativity Movement Zoroastrianism Gods; Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, Bacchus, Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim Eshu, Ereshkigal, Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel, Hephaestus, Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai, Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, Morrigan, Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn, Set, Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, Vishnu, Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA. African gods: Abassi [sky] Abonsam [Evil] Abora [supreme] Abzu [Water] Acoran [supreme] Adaheli [sun] Adro [sky] Adroa [sky] Agassou [Panther] Agbe-Naete [Water] Age [Animals] Aigamuxa [Monster] Ajalamo[unborn Children] Aje [Wealth] Ajok [supreme] Akonadi [Oracle] Akongo [supreme] Akuj [supreme] Ala [Earth/Fertility] Alatangana [Creator] Amma [Creator] Anansi [Trickster] Anyiewo [snake] Aondo [Creator] Apa [Creator] Apedemak [War] Arawa [Moon] Arebati [sky] Arom [Contracts] Arsan Duolai [underworld] Asase Ya [Earth] Ashiakle [Wealth] Asis [sun] Astar [sky] Ataa Naa Nyongmo [Creator] Ataokoloinona [supreme] Atete [Fertility] Avrikiti [Fishermen] Ayabba [Ayaba] [Hearth] Bacax [Cave] Bagba [Wind] Balubaal [Earth+] Bandara [superior Gods] Banga [Clear water] Behanzin [Fish] Beher [sea] Bera Pennu [Vegetation] Bo [Warriors] Bomazi[Ancestors] Buadza [WInd] Buck[River] Buku [sky] Bumba [Creator] Cagn [Creator] (!Kaggen) Cghene [Creator] Chiuke (Chuku) [Creator] Chiata [supreme] Chwezi [Hero] Col [Rain] Chikara [sky] Danh (Dan Ayido Hwedo) [snake] Deng [sky] Deohako [beans+] Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods] Dongo [Outer Space] Dugbo [Earth] Dxui [Creator] Emeli-hi [supreme] Eranoranhan [Protector] Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster] Fa [Destiny] Famien [Fertility] Faro [sky/Water] Fidi Mukullu [Creator] Garang and Abuk [First Humans] Gbeni [Chief] Gei (Gou) [Moon] Gu [War/Smiths] Gua [sky] Gulu [supreme] Gunab [Evil] Guruhi [Evil] Gurzil [bull] Gwalu [Rain] Hammon [setting Sun] Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits] Heitsi-Eibib [sorcerer] Hevioss [Thunder] Huntin [Tree] Huvean [Creator] Ifa [Oracul] Ikenga [supreme] Imana [Creator] Iruwa [sun] Juok [Creator] Kalumba [Creator] Kalunga Supreme] Katavi [Demonic] Ka Tyeleo [supreme] Khebieso [Lightening] Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon] Kholomodumo [Monster] Khuzwane [Creator] Kibuka [War] Kokola [Guardian] Kwammang-a [supreme] Kwoth [spirit] Kyala [Creator] Legba [Trickster] Leza [Chief] Libanza [supreme] Lisa [Chameleon] Lyangombe[Chief] Macardit [Demon] Mantis [Creator] Massim-Biambe [Creator] Mawu [sky] Mawu-Lisa [supreme Couple] Mbotumbo [supreme] Medr [Earth] Moomb [Creator] Mon [?] Mugasa Mugu [sky] Mujaji [Rain] Mukasa [supreme] Mula Djadi [Creator] Muluku [supreme] Mulungu Mungu [Creator] Mungo (Mungu) [?] Musa (Teaching] Musisi [supreme] Mwari [supreme] Nampa [Personal] Nana-Bouclou [First Gods] Nana Buluk [Creator] Ndjambi [sky] Ndriananahary [supreme] Nduru [Jungle] Nenaunir [storm] Nesshoue [River] Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator] Ngewo-wa [Creator] Ngworekara [Demon] Niamye [supreme] Nkosi Yama'kosi [supreme] Nommo [Elemental] Nommo [spirit] Nyama [Animal] Nyambe [supreme] Nyambi (Nyambe) [supreme] Nyame Nyami-Nyami [Guardian] Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [supreme] Nyamia Ama [supreme] Nyasaye [supeme] Nzambi (Nzambi) Mpunguo) [supreme] Nzame [supreme] Obassi Osaw [supreme] Obatala [sky] Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth] Ogun (Ogoun) War] Olokula [sea] Olorun [supreme] Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life] Orahan [supreme] Orisa Nla [Creator] Orishako [Agriculture] Orunjan [Midday Sun] Orunmila [Compassion] Oshalla [?] Osun [beauty and Love] Oya [Passion and Power] Pemba (Bemba) Mother] Qandisa [Demon] Qamata[Quamta] Supreme] Rock-Sene [supreme] Ruwa [supreme] Sagbata [smallpox] Sakarabru [Medicine] Sakpata [smallpox] Sango [Thunder] Shango [Thunder] So [Lightening] Tano [River] Tore [Forest] Trowu[spirits] Tsui'goab [Rain] Twe [Lake] Umvelinqangi [Creator] Unkulunkulu [supreme] Unumbotte [Creator] Waka [Rain] Wele [supreme] Wulbari [supreme] Wuni [supreme] Xewioso [Thunder] Yemaja [Creation] Yo [impersonal] Zin [Water] Table of Asian Gods: BUDDHIST Abhijnaraja [Physician] Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis] Acala [?] Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis] Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis] Adibuddha [First] Adidharma [Primeval] Aizen Myo-o [Protective] Ajaya [?] Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature] Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani] Amida [savior] Amitabha [A Dhyani] Amitayus [Longevity] Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara] Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani] Anantamukhi [Literature] Arapacana [book and Sword] Arcismati [bhumis] Arhat [A Saint] Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis] Arya-Tara [sakti] Asokakanta [avatar Marici] Asokottamasri [Physician] Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla] Asura [Group of Demons] Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age] Ayurvasita[One vasitas] Balaparamita [Philosophy] Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician] Bhima[Attendant] Bhrkuti[Female] Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother] Bhumi [spiritual Spheres] Bhutadarma [Demon Controller] Bi-har [Protector] Bodhidharma [Monk] Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [born to be Englightened] Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas] Buddhalocana [Female Buddha] Budha [Mercury] Butcho [?] Chandarosana [Mahayana] Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana] Chakravartin [World Ruler] Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa] Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings] Chittavista [Vashitas] Citipati [Graveyard Demons] Cunda [Literature] Da-shi-zhi [bodhisattva] Dadimunda [Temples] Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom] Dakini [Demons] Dala Kadavara [Demon] Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank] Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi] Dharani [Mystical Texts] Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma] Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician] Dharmamegha [bhumis] Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties] Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis] Dharmavasita [Vasitas] Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians] Dhupa [Mother] Dhupatara [Mahayana] Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya] Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy] Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas] Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators] Di-zang [bodhisattvas of Hell] Dvarapala [?] Ekajata [Terrible] Emma-o [Judges the Dead] Fudo [WIsdom] Guan Yin [bodhisattva] Hariti [Ate Children] Hayagriva [Protection] Heruka [Protection] Hevajra [Protection] Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries] Jambhala [avatar Vausravana] Janguli [snakebite cure] Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence] Jizo [Compassion] Juichimen [Mercy] Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo] Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva] Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [indian bodhisattva] Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o] Krodhadevatas [inspire Terror] Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva] Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy] Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric] Kurukulla [?] Locana [?] Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva] Maitreya [Future] Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva] Manjusri [bodhisattva] Mara [Evil] Marici [sun] Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva Mo-Li [Protects Temples] Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara] Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses] Pandara [?] Paramasva [?] Parnasavari [?] Prajna [Femaleness] Prajnaparamita [buddhist Text] Ran-deng [beggar and Future Buddha] Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha] Remanta [King of the Horse gods] Sakyamuni [Japanese] Samantabhadra [bodhisattvas] Saptaksara [avatar Heruka] Shakra [King of the Gods] Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven] Sumbharaja [buddhist Krodhadevata] Tennin (Tennyo) [angels] Usnisavijaya [?] Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas] Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World] Vajrabhairava [?] Vajrapani [bodhisattvas] Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha] Vajravarahi [?] Vajrayogini [initiation] Vajrayogini [Riches] Vidyadharas [?] Vidyujjvalakarali [?] Vighnantaka [?] Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World] Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven] Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] We-to [Divine General] Yakushi Nyorai [Healing] Yama [?] Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas] Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods] CHINESE GODS Ao [sea] Awun [Destruction] Ba [Drought] Ba Gua [basis of Divination] Bo Hsian [Taoist] Cai-Shen [Riches] Can Cong [silkworms] Cao Guo-jiu [Actors] Chang Fei [War] Chang Hs'ien [Children] Chang Kuo-lao [?] Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon] Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife] Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians] Chen Jen [spiritual Beings] Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen] Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [buskers] Chih Nu [Weavers] Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain] Chih-Yu [inventor] Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian] Chou Wang [sodomy] Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties] Chu Jung [Fire] Chu Lung [Day/Night] Chung K'uei [Afterlife] Chung-li Ch'uan [immortal] Confucius [Philosopher] Di Zhang Xia [?] Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God] Erh-Lang [Guardian] Fan-K'uei [butchers] Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind] Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings] Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind] Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind] Fo [buddha] Fu His [Taught Humanity] Fu Hsing [Happiness] Fu Shen [Happiness] Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods] Fu-xi [Hero] Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement] Gong Gong [Common Workers] Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers] Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling] Gui Xian [Demon] Han Hsiang [immortal] Han Xiang-zi [immortal] He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers] Heng E (Change-e) [Moon] He Xian-gu [immortal] Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples] Heng-o [Moon] Ho Hsien-ku [immortal] Ho Po [River] Hou Chi [Harvest] Hou I [Archer] Hou T'u [Earth] Hsien [Taoists] Hsi Ho [sun's Creator] Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian] Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven] Hua Hsien [Flower] Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero] Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain] Hu-Shen [Hail] I [bowmen] Infoniwoo [Generation] I-Ti [Wine] K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil] Kuan Yu [War] K'uei Hsing [Examinations] Lan Cai-he [immortal] Lao T'ien Yeh [supreme] Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher] Lei Kung [storm] Lei-zi [Thunder] Li [Fire] Li Tie-guai [immortal] Liu [Crops] Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [immortal] Lu-Hsing [salaries/Employees] Lung Wang [Dragon King] Lupan [Carpenters] Ma-Mien [bureaucrat] Meng (Meng P'o) [underworld] Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush] Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng] Mu Gong [immortals] Niu-Y'oun [Police] Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage] O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha] Pa [Drought] Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts] Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals] P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues] 'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos] Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth] Puhsien [sun] Ran-deng [Future Buddha] San Ch'inga [Three Taos] Shang Di (Shang Ti) [supreme] She Chi (Thu) [Earth] Shen [spirit] Sheng Jen [Holy] Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero] Shen-T'u [Guardian] Shen Yi [sun] Shiang Ku [Magician] Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten] Shou-Hsing [Longevity] Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life] Shou-Ts'ang [servant] Shui-Fu [Water] Shui-Kuan [Defender] Ssu Ming [Life and Death] Sung-Chiang [Theives] Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey] Sun Hou-zi [Apes] Sun-Pin [Cobblers] T'ai I [High] Tai-sui-xing [Time] Tai-yi [sky] T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak] Thu [Earth] Tian [sky] Tian-zhu [Catholic] Tien (T'ien) [sky] Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven] T'ien-Kuan [Happiness] T'ien Lung [Dragon] Tien Mu [Lightening] Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings] Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness] Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth] Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy] Ti Yu [Afterlife] Tou Nu [North Star] Ts'ai-Lun [stationers] Ts'ai Shen [Wealth] Tsan [Demons] Ts'ang Chien [Hearth] Tsao Shen [?] Tsao-Wang [Hearth] Tu [Earth] Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals] T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality] Wang [Palace Door] Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian] Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature] Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri] Wen Pu [Epidemics] Wu Ti [Myth] Xian [spirits] Xi-Wang-mu [immortality] Yama [seventh hell] Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [underworld Prince] Yao [Wind Conqueror] Yao-shi-fo [Physician] Yao Wang [Medicine] Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death] Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [underworld Judge] Yin and Yang [Male and Female] Yo Fei [War] Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds] Yu-di (Yu Huang) [supreme] Yueh Fei [War] Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High] Yun T'ung [Clouds] Yu-qiang [sea] Yu Shih [Rain] Yu-tzu [Rain] Zao Jun [Kitchen] Zhang Guo-lao [immortal] Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations] Zhong-li Quan [immortal] [sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology] Finnish Gods: Ahto [Water] Akka [Harvest] Egres [Vegetation/Fertility] Hiisi [Forest/Evil] Ilma [Air] Ilmarinen [sky] Inmar [sky] Juma [sky] Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+] Kalevanpojat [Demons] Kalma [Death] Kekri [Fertility Feast] Kipu-Tytto [illness] Kondos [sowing Crops] Kuu [Moon] Lemminkainen [Hero] Louhi [sorcery/Evil] Loviatar [Disease] Luonnotar [Creator] Madderakka [Dwarves] Maahiset [Dwarves] Naaki [Water] Nyrckes [?] Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties] Pajainen [?] Pajonn [Thunder] Para [Goblin Like] Pellonpekko [barley] Raudna [?] Rutu [Devil] Sampsa [Vegetation] Seides [stones] Rauni [?] Tapio [Forest] Tiermes [Thunder] Tuoni [underworld Tursas [Monster] Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder] Vainamoinen [Hero] Veralden-radien [World Pillars] Waralden Olmai [World] JAPANESE GODS Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder] Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star] Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal] Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility] Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods] Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil] Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared] Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth] Bimbo-Gami [Poverty] Bishamon [War] Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea] Daikoku [Wealth] Ebisu [Labor] Fuchi [Fire] Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom] Futsunushi [Lightening] Gozu-Tenno [Plague] Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind] Hikohohodemi [Hero] Hinokagutsuchi [Fire] Hiruko [Morning Sun] Hoderi [?] Hisa-Me [Devils] Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire] Hosuseri [?] Hotei [Laughter] Inari [Prosperity] Izanagi [Creator] Izanami [Mother] Jikoku [Guardians] Jimmu Tenno [Founder] Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity] Kagu-tsuchi [Fire] Kamado-gami [Hearth] Kami [Divinities] Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?] Kami-Nari [Thunder] Kamui [sky] Kappa [Water] Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers] Kishijoten [Luck] Kishimojin [Demon] Komoku [south] Kompira [Wealth] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?] Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First] Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth] Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow] Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes] Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes] Ningyo [Mermaid] Ninigi [Ruler Earth] O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery] Onamuji [Earth] Omiwa [Protective] Oni [Demons] O-Wata-Tsumi [sea] O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain] Raiden [Thunder] Ryo-Wo [sea] Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain] Sae-No-Kami [Roads] Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain] Sennin [immortals] Shichi-Fukujin [Luck] Shiko-Me [Devils] Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind] Shitatera-Hime [?] Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians] Shojo [satyrs] Soko-No-Kuni [underworld] Suitengu [sea] Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs] Shoki [Enemy of Devils] Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [storms] Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family] Takemikadzuchi [Thunder] Take-Mi-Musubi [sun] Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain] Tatsuta-hime [Autumn] Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest] Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy] Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon] Uji-gami [Ancestors] Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and Food] Uzume [Mirth] Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\ Wata-tsu-mi [sea] Yabune [House] Zocho [south] Shinto Amaterasu [sun] Ama-Tsu-Mara [smiths] Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral] Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water] Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [supreme] Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers] Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental] Ame-no-uzume [Dancers] Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+] Fujin [Wind] Hachiman [War] Ho-musubi [Fire] Kami [idols] SOUTH ASIAN GODS Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [supreme] Debata [?] Empung Luminuut [?] Hainuwele [?] Hananim [sky] Hmin [Ague] Karei [supreme] Kinharingan [Creator] Kud [Evil] Laseo [sun] Lature Dano [supreme] Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above] Mahatala (Mahataral) [supreme?] Ma-zu [?] Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval] Narbrooi [Woodlands] Nemu [Primodial] Palk [sun] Puang Matowa [sky] Pulug [Thunder] Reahu [Dark Demon] Rigenmucha [supreme] Silewe Nazarata [?] Sirao [First] Ta Pedn [?] Tnong [sun] Tumbrenjak [Original Man] Upulevo [sun] Wunekau [sun] CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS Abyrga [snake] Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms] Aitvaras [Evil] Alardi [spirit] Aralo [Agriculutre] Armaz [supreme] Auseklis (Ausrine) [stellar] Baba [spirit] Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress] Bagvarti [?] Bangputys [sea] Bannik [baths] Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity] Barastir (Barastaer) [underworld] Bardha [Elves] Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War] Beng [satan] Biegg-Olmai [Wind] Bogatyri [Heroes] Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children] Bolla (Bullar) [Demon] Buga [supreme] Bukura e dheut [Good Spirit] Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah] Byelobog (Bielbog) [?] Byelun [?] Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?] Chors [sun] Dabog [sun] Deive [stone Spirits] Dieva deli [?] Dievini [Less Known Gods] Dievs [sky] Djall [Devil] Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household] Donbittir [Water/Fish] Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods] Dud [Heavenly Spirit] Dvorovoi [Courtyard] Dyavo [Demons] En [?] Erlik [King of the Dead] Es [sky] Fatit [Destiny] Fene [Demon] Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire] Gabjauja [Corn] Giltine [Death] Guta [Demon] Hadur [War] Himavat [Himalayas] Horagalles [War] Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate] Isten [supreme] Jagaubis [Fire] Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War] Jessis [avatar Jupiter] Jumis [Fertility] Juras Mate [Water] Kaka-Guia [Funerary] Kalvis [smith] Karta [Fate] Kaukas [?] Khors [Health/Hunting] Khyung-gai mGo-can [?] Kikimora [Household] K'op'ala [Protective] Kukuth (Kukudhi) [sickness] Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon] Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon] Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs] Kurdalaegon [blacksmiths] Laima [Fate] Lamaria [Hearth] Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest] Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility] Laume [Fairy] Leshy [Forest] Lha [bon Gods] Lhamo [?] Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs] Ljubi [Demon] Manzasiri [Primeval] Mate [Mother] Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth] Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods] Meness [Moon] Menulis [Moon] Meza Mate [Nature] Mirsa [Light] Mokos [Fertility] Mu (rMu) [Heavenly] Muma Padura [Wood] Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon] Nang Lha [Household] Nari [Demon] Nari [sky] Num [sky] Odqan [Fire] Ora [Protective] Ordog [Dark] Pekar (Pehar) [Demon] Peko [barley] Perendi [Jehovah] Perit [Mountain Spirits] Perkons [Thunder] Perkunas [Thunder] Perun (Peroun) [Thunder] Polevik [Field] Poludnitsa [Field] Pon [sky] Porenutius (Porevit) [?] Preas Eyn [?] Preas Eyssaur [Destructive] Preas Prohm [Primeval] Prende (Prenne) [Love] Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday] Pugu [sun] Qormusta (Chormusta) [High] Rugievit [War] Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands] Safa [Weapens] Sanda [?] Sarkany [Weather] Saule [sun] Saules meitas [?] Selardi [Moon] Shen-Lha-od-dkar [bon] Shen-rab [Founder Bon] Sipe Gyalmo [bon] Shiwini [sun] Shosshu [smiths] Siwini [sun] Srat [Demon] Sri [Demon] Sridevi [?] Stribog [Winds] Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture] Svarog [sky] Syen [Guardian] Stihi [Demon] Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith] Telyaveli [smiths] Tengri [Heavenly Beings] Tesheba [Weather] Thab-lha [Hearth] Triglav (Trigelawus) [War] Uacilla [Thunder/Rain] Ulgen [Creator] Urme [Fate] Usins [?] Vadatajs [Evil] Vampire [soul of Dead] Veela [Kindess] Veja mate [Winds] Veles (Volos) [underworld] Velnias [Devil] Velu mate [Dead] Verbti [Fire/North Wind] Vila [Water] Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf] Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf] Vodnik [Demon] Vodyanoi [Water] Volos (Volusu) [Cattle] We [supreme] Xhindi [spirits] Yarilo [Love] Zaltys [Grass Snake] Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [supreme] Zemes mate [Mother] Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth] Zorya [Guardian] Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star] SIBERIAN GODS Ai Tojon [Light] Ajysyt [Mother] Anky-Kele [sea] Ayi [Creator] Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters] Hinkon [Death Demon] K'daai [Fire Demon] Kaltes [The Goddess] Ke'lets [Death Demon] Kurkil [Creator] Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit] Mayin [supreme] Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals] Shurdi [Thunderstorms] Tomam [bird] Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator] Xucau [supreme] Ye'loje (Pugu) [sun] Quote
Guest Therion Ware Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:37:50 -0500, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote: >There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >creations of man. > > > >If there was a REAL god he would destroy the thousands of false gods and Snip. Might I recommend the book "Small Gods" http://www.amazon.com/Small-Gods-Terry-Pratchett/dp/0061092177 By Terry Pratchett -- "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". attrib: Pauline R Quote
Guest Richo Posted November 22, 2006 Posted November 22, 2006 Bill M wrote: > There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the > creations of man. > "nothing more"? They are very telling words. "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate of organic fibre." Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING MORE" tell us? Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings and how they relate to the universe. The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. It's very sad. Mark. Quote
Guest AcesLucky Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 Richo wrote: > Bill M wrote: >> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >> creations of man. >> > > "nothing more"? > > They are very telling words. > "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate > of organic fibre." > > Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some > pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much > information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. > > Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING > MORE" tell us? > > Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created > beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings > and how they relate to the universe. > The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us > about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. > > When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are > showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - > because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. > > I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect > to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the > religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - > there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. > You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. > > It's very sad. > > Mark. > You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and developed than truth? There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that inhibit honest inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up kings and potentates (so they can rule others), and abuse non followers (crusades and witch hunts). Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent of a lie is to subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a person is evil and is an enemy of righteousness. "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be demonstrated." Ingersoll Quote
Guest Richo Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 AcesLucky wrote: > Richo wrote: > > Bill M wrote: > >> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the > >> creations of man. > >> > > > > "nothing more"? > > > > They are very telling words. > > "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate > > of organic fibre." > > > > Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some > > pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much > > information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. > > > > Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING > > MORE" tell us? > > > > Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created > > beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings > > and how they relate to the universe. > > The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us > > about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. > > > > When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are > > showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - > > because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. > > > > I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect > > to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the > > religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - > > there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. > > You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. > > > > It's very sad. > > > > Mark. > > > > You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and > developed than truth? > I dont think so. > There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that > inhibit honest inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up > kings and potentates (so they can rule others), and abuse > non followers (crusades and witch hunts). > Yes - religion has many faults. And yet the vast majority of humans are religious - therefore it has to have something going for it. Things exist for a reason. > Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent > of a lie is to subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a > person is evil and is an enemy of righteousness. > Not every untrue thing is a lie. Not everything which is untrue is untrue to all people in all situations. Not everything which is true is true for all people in all situations. > "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be > demonstrated." Ingersoll Whether or not that is sage advice depends on what you are talking about - if you are talking about determining the melting point of gallium then its good advice - if you are talking about whether or not you should encourage compassion or hatred for the neighbouring tribe then its useless. Mark. Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted November 23, 2006 Posted November 23, 2006 "AcesLucky" <aceslucky@netscape.net> wrote in message news:4A59h.33213$0n5.10655@newsfe10.phx... > Richo wrote: >> Bill M wrote: >>> >>> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >>> creations of man. >> >> "nothing more"? >> They are very telling words. >> "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate >> of organic fibre." >> Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some >> pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much >> information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. >> Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING >> MORE" tell us? >> Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created >> beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings >> and how they relate to the universe. >> The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us >> about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. >> When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are >> showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - >> because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. >> I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect >> to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the >> religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - >> there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. >> You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. >> It's very sad. >> Mark. > > You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and developed than > truth? > There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that inhibit honest > inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up kings and potentates (so > they can rule others), and abuse non followers (crusades and witch hunts). > There you go lying again Ace, for Chist never commanded anyone to kill, let alone go on "crucades and witch hunts". > Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent of a lie is to > subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a person is evil and is an > enemy of righteousness. > "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be demonstrated." > Ingersoll > There is nothing 'good' about you lying about Christ, and Christ commanded his followers to "demonstrate" everything He wanted them to do. See below Pastor Frank Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest AcesLucky Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Pastor Frank wrote: > "AcesLucky" <aceslucky@netscape.net> wrote in message > news:4A59h.33213$0n5.10655@newsfe10.phx... >> Richo wrote: >>> Bill M wrote: >>>> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >>>> creations of man. >>> "nothing more"? >>> They are very telling words. >>> "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate >>> of organic fibre." >>> Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some >>> pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much >>> information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. >>> Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING >>> MORE" tell us? >>> Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created >>> beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings >>> and how they relate to the universe. >>> The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us >>> about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. >>> When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are >>> showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - >>> because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. >>> I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect >>> to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the >>> religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - >>> there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. >>> You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. >>> It's very sad. >>> Mark. >> You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and developed than >> truth? >> There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that inhibit honest >> inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up kings and potentates (so >> they can rule others), and abuse non followers (crusades and witch hunts). >> > There you go lying again Ace, for Chist never commanded anyone to kill, > let alone go on "crucades and witch hunts". I didn't say Christ commanded anyone to do anything. You're hallucinating again. We were talking about gods being a creation of man, and why and how they were useful, for good and for bad purposes. My point was that it's not all that good to breed these kinds of lies; Richo was saying that they had a certain value. > >> Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent of a lie is to >> subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a person is evil and is an >> enemy of righteousness. >> "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be demonstrated." >> Ingersoll >> > There is nothing 'good' about you lying about Christ, and Christ > commanded his followers to "demonstrate" everything He wanted them to do. > See below See above. [note: alt.christnet.theology, alt.religion.apologetics; REMOVED due to excessive cross posting in non-originating threads.] Hey Frank, when you pollute other newsgroups with cross posts, they can't pick up the original context from the original thread. It's like starting in the middle of a conversation. It's immature, often complained about, and uncharacteristic of a person with respectful values. Thank you for being more careful about this. > > Pastor Frank > > Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one > another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. > Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, > if ye have love one to another. > Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, > as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down > his life for his friends. > Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command... > > > Quote
Guest jp2006ocs@gmail.com Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is the gate to destruction.And that false prophets will be increasing..they will appear and decieve many people(matthew 24-11).From the list of false gods the poster has just given us...I'd say so and then some!All that does is confirm the Lords Word to us.Jesus is the way the TRUTH and the life.......whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved....Romans 10-13 AcesLucky wrote: > Pastor Frank wrote: > > "AcesLucky" <aceslucky@netscape.net> wrote in message > > news:4A59h.33213$0n5.10655@newsfe10.phx... > >> Richo wrote: > >>> Bill M wrote: > >>>> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the > >>>> creations of man. > >>> "nothing more"? > >>> They are very telling words. > >>> "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate > >>> of organic fibre." > >>> Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some > >>> pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much > >>> information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. > >>> Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING > >>> MORE" tell us? > >>> Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created > >>> beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings > >>> and how they relate to the universe. > >>> The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us > >>> about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. > >>> When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are > >>> showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - > >>> because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. > >>> I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect > >>> to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the > >>> religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - > >>> there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. > >>> You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. > >>> It's very sad. > >>> Mark. > >> You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and developed than > >> truth? > >> There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that inhibit honest > >> inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up kings and potentates (so > >> they can rule others), and abuse non followers (crusades and witch hunts). > >> > > There you go lying again Ace, for Chist never commanded anyone to kill, > > let alone go on "crucades and witch hunts". > > > I didn't say Christ commanded anyone to do anything. You're > hallucinating again. > > We were talking about gods being a creation of man, and why > and how they were useful, for good and for bad purposes. My > point was that it's not all that good to breed these kinds > of lies; Richo was saying that they had a certain value. > > > > > > >> Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent of a lie is to > >> subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a person is evil and is an > >> enemy of righteousness. > >> "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be demonstrated." > >> Ingersoll > >> > > There is nothing 'good' about you lying about Christ, and Christ > > commanded his followers to "demonstrate" everything He wanted them to do. > > See below > > > See above. > > [note: alt.christnet.theology, alt.religion.apologetics; > REMOVED due to excessive cross posting in non-originating > threads.] > > Hey Frank, when you pollute other newsgroups with cross > posts, they can't pick up the original context from the > original thread. It's like starting in the middle of a > conversation. It's immature, often complained about, and > uncharacteristic of a person with respectful values. Thank > you for being more careful about this. > > > > > > Pastor Frank > > > > Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one > > another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. > > Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, > > if ye have love one to another. > > Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, > > as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down > > his life for his friends. > > Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command... > > > > > > Quote
Guest Christopher A.Lee Posted November 24, 2006 Posted November 24, 2006 On 24 Nov 2006 15:41:32 -0800, "jp2006ocs@gmail.com" <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote: >Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to >be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and >shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is >the gate to destruction.And that false prophets will be >increasing..they will appear and decieve many people(matthew >24-11).From the list of false gods the poster has just given us...I'd >say so and then some!All that does is confirm the Lords Word to >us.Jesus is the way the TRUTH and the life.......whosoever shall call >upon the name of the Lord shall be saved....Romans 10-13 Don't be so frikking stupid. Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1164411692.252823.147710@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... > Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to > be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and > shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is > the gate to destruction. Oh, shut up! -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire #1557 Quote
Guest AcesLucky Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 jp2006ocs@gmail.com wrote: > Since when does the clay concieve the Potter.... At exactly the same moment that a man conceived a god, and believed it.... Clay has no ability to > be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and > shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is > the gate to destruction.And that false prophets will be > increasing..they will appear and decieve many people(matthew > 24-11).From the list of false gods the poster has just given us...I'd > say so and then some!All that does is confirm the Lords Word to > us.Jesus is the way the TRUTH and the life.......whosoever shall call > upon the name of the Lord shall be saved....Romans 10-13 > AcesLucky wrote: >> Pastor Frank wrote: >>> "AcesLucky" <aceslucky@netscape.net> wrote in message >>> news:4A59h.33213$0n5.10655@newsfe10.phx... >>>> Richo wrote: >>>>> Bill M wrote: >>>>>> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >>>>>> creations of man. >>>>> "nothing more"? >>>>> They are very telling words. >>>>> "The Mona Lisa is NOTHING MORE than pigment smeared on a flat substrate >>>>> of organic fibre." >>>>> Well ... the Mona Lisa is a great work of art - if I smeared some >>>>> pigment on a canvas or board it probably wouldnt convey much >>>>> information or provoke much emotion in the viewer. >>>>> Certainy gods ARE the creation of men - but what does adding "NOTHING >>>>> MORE" tell us? >>>>> Gods are a lot more than merely being created beings - they are created >>>>> beings that express something deep and fundamental about human beings >>>>> and how they relate to the universe. >>>>> The gods men create like the art and language that men create tell us >>>>> about what we value what we fear what we yearn for. >>>>> When you say gods are nothing more than human creations - you are >>>>> showing a contempt for human imagination human thought human feeling - >>>>> because gods are our embodiment of all these things and more. >>>>> I am godless myself - but I dont despise Humans for trying to connect >>>>> to the world outside of their own egos. Although the gods and the >>>>> religions that contain them are often ridiculous and full of fault - >>>>> there is also truth and noble yearnings involved. >>>>> You have an unbalanced view of humans and their creations. >>>>> It's very sad. >>>>> Mark. >>>> You're saying that sometimes lies are better bred and developed than >>>> truth? >>>> There is a certain sinisterness to breeding lies that inhibit honest >>>> inquiry (sciences, for example), that prop up kings and potentates (so >>>> they can rule others), and abuse non followers (crusades and witch hunts). >>>> >>> There you go lying again Ace, for Chist never commanded anyone to kill, >>> let alone go on "crucades and witch hunts". >> >> I didn't say Christ commanded anyone to do anything. You're >> hallucinating again. >> >> We were talking about gods being a creation of man, and why >> and how they were useful, for good and for bad purposes. My >> point was that it's not all that good to breed these kinds >> of lies; Richo was saying that they had a certain value. >> >> >> >>>> Some lies might be, in some way, good. But where the intent of a lie is to >>>> subjugate for the benefit of the liar, such a person is evil and is an >>>> enemy of righteousness. >>>> "Nothing should be taught as true, that which cannot be demonstrated." >>>> Ingersoll >>>> >>> There is nothing 'good' about you lying about Christ, and Christ >>> commanded his followers to "demonstrate" everything He wanted them to do. >>> See below >> >> See above. >> >> [note: alt.christnet.theology, alt.religion.apologetics; >> REMOVED due to excessive cross posting in non-originating >> threads.] >> >> Hey Frank, when you pollute other newsgroups with cross >> posts, they can't pick up the original context from the >> original thread. It's like starting in the middle of a >> conversation. It's immature, often complained about, and >> uncharacteristic of a person with respectful values. Thank >> you for being more careful about this. >> >> >>> Pastor Frank >>> >>> Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one >>> another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. >>> Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, >>> if ye have love one to another. >>> Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one another, >>> as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down >>> his life for his friends. >>> Jesus in John 14:15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command... >>> >>> >>> > Quote
Guest Libertarius Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 jp2006ocs@gmail.com wrote: > Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to > be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and > shaping it according to His good will. ===>FALSE ANALOGY! Humans are NOT "clay", even though the primitive creation fable in Genesis does describe how YHWH, an extraterrestrial alien (ELOHIM} sculpted our first ancestor out of mud (clay) and blew air into his nose to make him alive. Of course that is a piece of fiction created by humans, and so are all the various and sundry ideas of "GOD". The ONLY "real God" is the observable, explorable one which Einstein called "Spinoza's God" -- i.e. NATURE, the eternal COSMIC TOTALITY OF ALL EXISTENCE, not some anthropomorphic imaginary "creator". -- L. Quote
Guest Libertarius Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 Robibnikoff wrote: > <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1164411692.252823.147710@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... > >>Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to >>be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and >>shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is >>the gate to destruction. > > > Oh, shut up! ===>If he thinks he is just a piece of clay, he should indeed just keep his mouth shut. -- L. Quote
Guest Free Lunch Posted November 25, 2006 Posted November 25, 2006 On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:21:33 -0700, in alt.atheism Libertarius <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in <45687B9D.8020504@nothingbutthe.truth>: > > >Robibnikoff wrote: >> <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1164411692.252823.147710@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to >>>be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and >>>shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is >>>the gate to destruction. >> >> >> Oh, shut up! > >===>If he thinks he is just a piece of clay, he should indeed just keep >his mouth shut. -- L. Maybe he's a golem. Quote
Guest Robibnikoff Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 "Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message news:45687B9D.8020504@nothingbutthe.truth... > > > Robibnikoff wrote: >> <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1164411692.252823.147710@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to >>>be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and >>>shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is >>>the gate to destruction. >> >> >> Oh, shut up! > > ===>If he thinks he is just a piece of clay, he should indeed just keep > his mouth shut. -- L. Indeed -- Robyn Resident Witchypoo #1557 Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted November 27, 2006 Posted November 27, 2006 "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message news:4t0imuF11hcq5U1@mid.individual.net... > "Libertarius" <Libertarius@nothingbutthe.truth> wrote in message > news:45687B9D.8020504@nothingbutthe.truth... >> Robibnikoff wrote: >>> <jp2006ocs@gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1164411692.252823.147710@l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>Since when does the clay concieve the Potter....Clay has no ability to >>>>be anything truely useful without the Potter first molding it and >>>>shaping it according to His good will.The Lord Jesus did say...wide is >>>>the gate to destruction. >>> >>> Oh, shut up! >> >> ===>If he thinks he is just a piece of clay, he should indeed just keep >> his mouth shut. -- L. > > Indeed > Robyn > Resident Witchypoo > #1557 "Shutting up" people by intimidation, or killing them is atheist doctrine. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest Azure Posted November 28, 2006 Posted November 28, 2006 Bill M wrote: > There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the > creations of man. > > If there was a REAL god he would destroy the thousands of false gods and > > establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his heaven. Did, Tower of Babel, all tell the tale of their tribe. Man is not United rather seeks chaos and discord no matter what the attempts or wishes of God. > > > If man can communicate with the whole world by Phone, Radio, the Internet > and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god to communicate > directly with his creations. > > There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs. > > They can't all be true and no real god would permit this massive deception > of his creations. > > Major religions; > > Baha'i Faith > Buddhism > Adventist > Jehovah's Witnesses > British Israelism > Southern Baptists > American Baptists > > Catholics > Christian Science > Amish > Brethren > Mennonites > Quakers > Shakers > Plymouth Brethren > Fundamentalists > Twin Oaks > Confucianism > Hinduism > Islam > Jainism > Judaism > Shinto > Sikhism > Taoism > Vodun (Voodoo) > Neopagan Religious Faiths > Asatru (Norse Paganism) > Druidism > Goddess Worship > Wicca > Witchcraft > Caodaism > Damanhur Community > Druse > Eckankar > Elian Gonzalez religious movement > Gnosticism > Gypsies > Hare Krishna - ISKCON > Lukumi > Macumba > Mowahhidoon > Native American Spirituality > Rom, Roma, Romani, Rroma, (a.k.a. Gypsies) > Santeria Elian Gonzalez religious movement > Satanism; The Church of Satan > Scientology > Unitarian-Universalism > The Creativity Movement > Zoroastrianism > > Gods; > > Ahura Mazda, Allah, Aphrodite, Ares, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Babaluaye, > Bacchus, > Baldur, Bast, Bellona, Brahma, Brigid, Ceres, Cupid, Cerridwen, > Demeter, Diana, Dione, Dionysus, Eris, Eos, Eleggua, , El Shaddai, Elohim > Eshu, Ereshkigal, > Frigga, Frey, Freya, Gaea, Lord Genesa, Hades, Hebe, Hera, Helios, Hel, > Hephaestus, > Hermes, Hestia, Horus, Ibeji, Ifa, Inanna, Indra, Ishana, Ishtar, > Isis, Janus, Juno, Jehovah, Jove, Jupiter, Kali. Krishna Kronos, Korravai, > Loki, Lugh, Lord Indra, Manitou, Mars, Mercury, Minerva, Mercurius, > Morrigan, > > Nahuiquiahuitl, Nanahuatzin, Nephthys, Neptune, Obatala, Odin, Ogun, > Oshosi, Oshun, Osiris, Oya, Orunmila, Olokun, Olodumare, Pluto, > Persephone, Poseidon, Proserpina, Quetzalcoatl, Ra, Lord Rama, Rhea, Saturn, > Set, > Selene, Shango, Lord Siva, Tammuz, Thor, Tir, Tiw, Uranus, Venus, Vesta, > Vishnu, > Vesta, Vulcan, Wotan, Yahweh, Yemaya, Zeus, XodA. > > African gods: > > Abassi [sky] > Abonsam [Evil] > Abora [supreme] > Abzu [Water] > Acoran [supreme] > Adaheli [sun] > Adro [sky] > Adroa [sky] > Agassou [Panther] > Agbe-Naete [Water] > Age [Animals] > Aigamuxa [Monster] > Ajalamo[unborn Children] > Aje [Wealth] > Ajok [supreme] > Akonadi [Oracle] > Akongo [supreme] > Akuj [supreme] > Ala [Earth/Fertility] > Alatangana [Creator] > Amma [Creator] > Anansi [Trickster] > Anyiewo [snake] > Aondo [Creator] > Apa [Creator] > Apedemak [War] > Arawa [Moon] > Arebati [sky] > Arom [Contracts] > Arsan Duolai [underworld] > Asase Ya [Earth] > Ashiakle [Wealth] > Asis [sun] > Astar [sky] > Ataa Naa > Nyongmo > [Creator] > Ataokoloinona [supreme] > Atete [Fertility] > Avrikiti [Fishermen] > Ayabba > [Ayaba] [Hearth] > > Bacax [Cave] > Bagba [Wind] > Balubaal [Earth+] > Bandara [superior Gods] > Banga [Clear water] > Behanzin [Fish] > Beher [sea] > Bera Pennu [Vegetation] > Bo [Warriors] > Bomazi[Ancestors] > Buadza [WInd] > Buck[River] > Buku [sky] > Bumba [Creator] > > Cagn [Creator] > (!Kaggen) > Cghene [Creator] > Chiuke > (Chuku) [Creator] > Chiata [supreme] > Chwezi [Hero] > Col [Rain] > Chikara [sky] > > Danh > (Dan Ayido Hwedo) [snake] > Deng [sky] > Deohako [beans+] > Dii Mauri [Moorish Gods] > Dongo [Outer Space] > Dugbo [Earth] > Dxui [Creator] > > Emeli-hi [supreme] > Eranoranhan [Protector] > Eshu (Elegba) [Trickster] > > Fa [Destiny] > Famien [Fertility] > Faro [sky/Water] > Fidi Mukullu [Creator] > > Garang and Abuk [First Humans] > Gbeni [Chief] > Gei (Gou) [Moon] > Gu [War/Smiths] > Gua [sky] > Gulu [supreme] > Gunab [Evil] > Guruhi [Evil] > Gurzil [bull] > Gwalu [Rain] > Hammon [setting Sun] > Harun and Haruna [Water Spirits] > Heitsi-Eibib [sorcerer] > Hevioss [Thunder] > Huntin [Tree] > Huvean [Creator] > > Ifa [Oracul] > Ikenga [supreme] > Imana [Creator] > Iruwa [sun] > Juok [Creator] > Kalumba [Creator] > Kalunga Supreme] > Katavi [Demonic] > Ka Tyeleo [supreme] > Khebieso [Lightening] > Kho-dumo-dumo [Demon] > Kholomodumo [Monster] > Khuzwane [Creator] > Kibuka [War] > Kokola [Guardian] > Kwammang-a [supreme] > Kwoth [spirit] > Kyala [Creator] > > Legba [Trickster] > Leza [Chief] > Libanza [supreme] > Lisa [Chameleon] > Lyangombe[Chief] > Macardit [Demon] > Mantis [Creator] > Massim-Biambe [Creator] > Mawu [sky] > Mawu-Lisa [supreme Couple] > Mbotumbo [supreme] > Medr [Earth] > Moomb [Creator] > Mon [?] > Mugasa > Mugu [sky] > Mujaji [Rain] > Mukasa [supreme] > Mula Djadi [Creator] > Muluku [supreme] > Mulungu > Mungu [Creator] > Mungo (Mungu) [?] > Musa (Teaching] > Musisi [supreme] > Mwari [supreme] > > Nampa [Personal] > Nana-Bouclou [First Gods] > Nana Buluk [Creator] > Ndjambi [sky] > Ndriananahary [supreme] > Nduru [Jungle] > Nenaunir [storm] > Nesshoue [River] > Ngai ('Ngai) [Creator] > Ngewo-wa [Creator] > Ngworekara [Demon] > Niamye [supreme] > Nkosi Yama'kosi [supreme] > Nommo [Elemental] > Nommo [spirit] > Nyama [Animal] > Nyambe [supreme] > Nyambi (Nyambe) [supreme] > Nyame > Nyami-Nyami [Guardian] > Nyankopon (Ashanti:Nyame) [supreme] > Nyamia Ama [supreme] > Nyasaye [supeme] > Nzambi (Nzambi) > Mpunguo) [supreme] > Nzame [supreme] > > Obassi Osaw [supreme] > Obatala [sky] > Oduduwa (Odudua) [Earth] > Ogun (Ogoun) War] > Olokula [sea] > Olorun [supreme] > Omumbo-Rombonga [Tree of Life] > Orahan [supreme] > Orisa Nla [Creator] > Orishako [Agriculture] > Orunjan [Midday Sun] > Orunmila [Compassion] > Oshalla [?] > Osun [beauty and Love] > Oya [Passion and Power] > > Pemba (Bemba) Mother] > Qandisa [Demon] > Qamata[Quamta] Supreme] > > Rock-Sene [supreme] > Ruwa [supreme] > Sagbata [smallpox] > Sakarabru [Medicine] > Sakpata [smallpox] > Sango [Thunder] > Shango [Thunder] > So [Lightening] > > Tano [River] > Tore [Forest] > Trowu[spirits] > Tsui'goab [Rain] > Twe [Lake] > > Umvelinqangi [Creator] > Unkulunkulu [supreme] > Unumbotte [Creator] > > Waka [Rain] > Wele [supreme] > Wulbari [supreme] > Wuni [supreme] > > Xewioso [Thunder] > Yemaja [Creation] > Yo [impersonal] > > Zin [Water] > > Table of Asian Gods: > > BUDDHIST > > Abhijnaraja [Physician] > Abhimukhi [One of the Bhumis] > Acala [?] > Adhimukticarya [One of the Bhumis] > Adhimuktivasita [One of the Bhumis] > Adibuddha [First] > Adidharma [Primeval] > Aizen Myo-o [Protective] > Ajaya [?] > Akasagarbha(Tibetan Nam-mkhai > Aksayajnana-Karmanda [Literature] > Aksobhya (Japanese Ashuku, Chinese A-Chu'u) [One of the Dhyani] > Amida [savior] > Amitabha [A Dhyani] > Amitayus [Longevity] > Amoghapasa [see Avalokitesvara] > Amoghasiddhi [A Dhyani] > Anantamukhi [Literature] > Arapacana [book and Sword] > Arcismati [bhumis] > Arhat [A Saint] > Arthapratisamvit [Logical Analysis] > Arya-Tara [sakti] > Asokakanta [avatar Marici] > Asokottamasri [Physician] > Astabhuja-Kurukulla [avatar Kurukulla] > Asura [Group of Demons] > Avalokitesvara(Avalokita, Lokesvara) [Dhyani Present Age] > Ayurvasita[One vasitas] > > Balaparamita [Philosophy] > Bhaisajyaguru(Sman-bla, Otaci,Yao-shih-fo, Yakushi)[Physician] > Bhima[Attendant] > Bhrkuti[Female] > Bhrkuti-Tara [Mother] > Bhumi [spiritual Spheres] > Bhutadarma [Demon Controller] > Bi-har [Protector] > Bodhidharma [Monk] > Bodhisattva (Chinese Pu-sa) [born to be Englightened] > Buddhabodhiprabhavasita [Vasitas] > Buddhalocana [Female Buddha] > Budha [Mercury] > Butcho [?] > > Chandarosana [Mahayana] > Charcika (Carcika) [Mahayana] > Chakravartin [World Ruler] > Chattrosnisa [An Usnisa] > Chaturmaharajas (Caturmaharajas) [Four Great Kings] > Chittavista [Vashitas] > Citipati [Graveyard Demons] > Cunda [Literature] > Da-shi-zhi [bodhisattva] > Dadimunda [Temples] > Dainichi' [Purity/Wisdom] > Dakini [Demons] > Dala Kadavara [Demon] > Devaputra [Gods of Lower Rank] > Dhanada [avatar Amoghasiddhi] > Dharani [Mystical Texts] > Dharmadhatuvagisvara [Dharma] > Dharmakirtisagaraghosa [Physician] > Dharmamegha [bhumis] > Dharmapala ,Chinese Fu Ha [Protective Dieties] > Dharmapratisamvit [Nature Analysis] > Dharmavasita [Vasitas] > Dhritarashtra (Pali Dhatarattha) [One of the 4 World Guardians] > Dhupa [Mother] > Dhupatara [Mahayana] > Dhvajagrakeyura [avatar Aksobhya] > Dhyanaparamita [Philosophy] > Dhyani-Bodhisattvas [Five Bodhisattvas] > Dhyani-Buddhas [Five Meditators] > Di-zang [bodhisattvas of Hell] > Dvarapala [?] > > Ekajata [Terrible] > Emma-o [Judges the Dead] > > Fudo [WIsdom] > > Guan Yin [bodhisattva] > > Hariti [Ate Children] > Hayagriva [Protection] > Heruka [Protection] > Hevajra [Protection] > > Ida-Ten [Law/Monestaries] > > Jambhala [avatar Vausravana] > Janguli [snakebite cure] > Jian Lao [Earth/Permanence] > Jizo [Compassion] > Juichimen [Mercy] > > Kali devia [avatar Lha-mo] > > Kannon [Japanese bodhisattva] > Khasarpana(Khasarpana-Lokesvara) [indian bodhisattva] > Ki Fudo [avatar Fudo-Myo-o] > Krodhadevatas [inspire Terror] > Ksitigarbha [One of 8 bodhisattva] > Kuan-yin (Kwannon) [Mercy] > Kujaku Myoo [Esoteric] > Kurukulla [?] > > Locana [?] > > Mahasthamaprata [Chinese bodhisattva] > Maitreya [Future] > Manjughosa [Nepalese bodhisattva] > Manjusri [bodhisattva] > Mara [Evil] > Marici [sun] > Mi-lo Fo (Pu-Sa) [Chinese bodhisattva > Miroku [Japanese bodhisattva > Mo-Li [Protects Temples] > > Padmanartesvara [avatar Bodhisattva Avalokitesvara] > Pancaraksa[5 Goddesses] > Pandara [?] > Paramasva [?] > Parnasavari [?] > Prajna [Femaleness] > Prajnaparamita [buddhist Text] > Ran-deng [beggar and Future Buddha] > Ratnapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] > Ratnasambhava [Dhyani-Buddha] > Remanta [King of the Horse gods] > > Sakyamuni [Japanese] > Samantabhadra [bodhisattvas] > Saptaksara [avatar Heruka] > Shakra [King of the Gods] > Ssu Ta T'ien Wang [Kings of Heaven] > Sumbharaja [buddhist Krodhadevata] > > Tennin (Tennyo) [angels] > > Usnisavijaya [?] > > Vairocana [Dhyani-Buddhas] > Vaisravana (Pali Vessavana, Chinese Do Wen) [Guards World] > Vajrabhairava [?] > Vajrapani [bodhisattvas] > Vajrasattva [Nepal Dhyani-Buddha] > Vajravarahi [?] > Vajrayogini [initiation] > Vajrayogini [Riches] > Vidyadharas [?] > Vidyujjvalakarali [?] > Vighnantaka [?] > Virudhaka (Pali Virulha, Chinese Zheng Zhang) [Guards World] > Virupaksa (Pali Virupakkha, Chinese Guand Mu) [Guards Western Heaven] > Visvapani [Dhyani-Bodhisattva] > > We-to [Divine General] > > Yakushi Nyorai [Healing] > Yama [?] > Yamantaka [Krodhadevatas] > > Zhu Dian (Zhu Tian) [Chinese Buddhist gods] > > CHINESE GODS > > Ao [sea] > Awun [Destruction] > > Ba [Drought] > Ba Gua [basis of Divination] > Bo Hsian [Taoist] > > Cai-Shen [Riches] > Can Cong [silkworms] > Cao Guo-jiu [Actors] > Chang Fei [War] > Chang Hs'ien [Children] > Chang Kuo-lao [?] > Ch'ang E (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [Moon] > Chang Tao Ling [Afterlife] > Cheng-huang (Ch'eng Huang) [Guardians] > Chen Jen [spiritual Beings] > Cheng San-Kung [Fishermen] > Cheng Yuan Ho (Ch'ang-o Huang E) [buskers] > Chih Nu [Weavers] > Chih Sung-Tzu (Chi Sung Tzu) [Rain] > Chih-Yu [inventor] > Ch'in-Shu-Pao [Guardian] > Chou Wang [sodomy] > Chu-Chuan Shen [Pigsties] > Chu Jung [Fire] > Chu Lung [Day/Night] > Chung K'uei [Afterlife] > Chung-li Ch'uan [immortal] > Confucius [Philosopher] > > Di Zhang Xia [?] > Dong-yo Da-di [Helps Sky God] > > Erh-Lang [Guardian] > > Fan-K'uei [butchers] > Fei Lien (Fei Lian) [Wind] > Feng-Huang (Hoang-female Phuong-male) [Many Meanings] > Feng Po (Feng-Po) [Human form of the wind] > Feng P'o-p'o (Feng-Po-Po) [Female wind] > Fo [buddha] > Fu His [Taught Humanity] > Fu Hsing [Happiness] > Fu Shen [Happiness] > Fu-Shou-Lu [Collection of Gods] > Fu-xi [Hero] > > Gao Yao (Ting-jian) [Judgement] > Gong Gong [Common Workers] > Gou Mang and Ru Shou [Messengers] > Guan Di (Kuan Ti) [War/Fortune Telling] > Gui Xian [Demon] > > Han Hsiang [immortal] > Han Xiang-zi [immortal] > He Bo (Bing-yi) [Rivers] > Heng E (Change-e) [Moon] > He Xian-gu [immortal] > Heng-Ha-Erh-Chiang [Temples] > Heng-o [Moon] > Ho Hsien-ku [immortal] > Ho Po [River] > Hou Chi [Harvest] > Hou I [Archer] > Hou T'u [Earth] > Hsien [Taoists] > Hsi Ho [sun's Creator] > Hsi Wang Mu [Guardian] > Hsuan-T'ien-Shang-Ti [Dark Heaven] > Hua Hsien [Flower] > Huang-di (Huang Ti) (Shun) [Hero] > Huang Fei-hu (Fei) [Mountain] > Hu-Shen [Hail] > > I [bowmen] > Infoniwoo [Generation] > I-Ti [Wine] > > K'ai Lu Shen [Purges Evil] > Kuan Yu [War] > K'uei Hsing [Examinations] > > Lan Cai-he [immortal] > Lao T'ien Yeh [supreme] > Lao-Tzu (Lao-zi) [Philosopher] > Lei Kung [storm] > Lei-zi [Thunder] > Li [Fire] > Li Tie-guai [immortal] > Liu [Crops] > Lu Dong-bin (Lu Yan) [immortal] > Lu-Hsing [salaries/Employees] > Lung Wang [Dragon King] > Lupan [Carpenters] > > Ma-Mien [bureaucrat] > Meng (Meng P'o) [underworld] > Meng-T'ien [Writing Brush] > Men Shen [Doors, includes sometimes Wei Cheng] > Mu Gong [immortals] > > Niu-Y'oun [Police] > Nu Gua (Nu Kua, Nu Wa) [Creator and Marriage] > > O-Mi-T'o Fo [Amitabha] > > Pa [Drought] > Pa-Cha [Anti-locusts] > Pa-Hsien [Eight Immortals] > P'an-Chin-Lien [Prostitues] > 'P'an Ku (Panku, Pangu) [Cosmos] > Pi-Hsia-Yuan-Chun [Childbirth] > Puhsien [sun] > > Ran-deng [Future Buddha] > > San Ch'inga [Three Taos] > Shang Di (Shang Ti) [supreme] > She Chi (Thu) [Earth] > Shen [spirit] > Sheng Jen [Holy] > Shen-nong(Shen Nung) [Hero] > Shen-T'u [Guardian] > Shen Yi [sun] > Shiang Ku [Magician] > Shih-Tien Yen-Wang [Committe of Ten] > Shou-Hsing [Longevity] > Shou Lao (Shou Xing Lao Tou-zi) [Long Life] > Shou-Ts'ang [servant] > Shui-Fu [Water] > Shui-Kuan [Defender] > Ssu Ming [Life and Death] > Sung-Chiang [Theives] > Sun Hou-Tzu [Monkey] > Sun Hou-zi [Apes] > Sun-Pin [Cobblers] > > T'ai I [High] > Tai-sui-xing [Time] > Tai-yi [sky] > T'ai Yueh Ta Ti (Tung-Yueh-Ta-Ti, T'ai-Yo, Ta-Ti) [Peak] > Thu [Earth] > Tian [sky] > Tian-zhu [Catholic] > Tien (T'ien) [sky] > Tien-Hou (T'ien Fei) [Heaven] > T'ien-Kuan [Happiness] > T'ien Lung [Dragon] > Tien Mu [Lightening] > Tien-Wang (Mo-Li) [Kings] > Ti-Kuan [Foregiveness] > Ti Nu (Ti-ya) [Earth] > Ti-Tsang-Wang-Pu-Sa [Mercy] > Ti Yu [Afterlife] > Tou Nu [North Star] > Ts'ai-Lun [stationers] > Ts'ai Shen [Wealth] > Tsan [Demons] > Ts'ang Chien [Hearth] > Tsao Shen [?] > Tsao-Wang [Hearth] > Tu [Earth] > Tung Wang Kung [Ruled Male Immortals] > T'u-ti (Ti-Ti) [Locality] > > Wang [Palace Door] > Wang-Mu-Niang-Niang [Guardian] > Wen Ch'ang (Wen-Chang-Ta-Ti) [Literature] > Wen-Shu Yen-K'ung [Manjushri] > Wen Pu [Epidemics] > Wu Ti [Myth] > > Xian [spirits] > Xi-Wang-mu [immortality] > > Yama [seventh hell] > Yan-lo (Yan Wang) [underworld Prince] > Yao [Wind Conqueror] > Yao-shi-fo [Physician] > Yao Wang [Medicine] > Yeng-Wang-Yeh [Death] > Yen Wang (Yen Lo) [underworld Judge] > Yin and Yang [Male and Female] > Yo Fei [War] > Yu-Chiang [Ocean Winds] > Yu-di (Yu Huang) [supreme] > Yueh Fei [War] > Yu Huang (Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti) [High] > Yun T'ung [Clouds] > Yu-qiang [sea] > Yu Shih [Rain] > Yu-tzu [Rain] > > Zao Jun [Kitchen] > Zhang Guo-lao [immortal] > Zhong-Kui [Literature and Examinations] > Zhong-li Quan [immortal] > > [sources: Brief History of Ancient Chinese Mythology] > > Finnish Gods: > > Ahto [Water] > Akka [Harvest] > > Egres [Vegetation/Fertility] > > Hiisi [Forest/Evil] > > Ilma [Air] > Ilmarinen [sky] > Inmar [sky] > > Juma [sky] > Jumala (Mader-Atcha, Ukk) [Thunder+] > > Kalevanpojat [Demons] > Kalma [Death] > Kekri [Fertility Feast] > Kipu-Tytto [illness] > Kondos [sowing Crops] > Kuu [Moon] > > Lemminkainen [Hero] > Louhi [sorcery/Evil] > Loviatar [Disease] > Luonnotar [Creator] > > Madderakka [Dwarves] > Maahiset [Dwarves] > > Naaki [Water] > Nyrckes [?] > > Olmai (Olmay) [Divine properties] > > Pajainen [?] > Pajonn [Thunder] > Para [Goblin Like] > Pellonpekko [barley] > > Raudna [?] > Rutu [Devil] > > Sampsa [Vegetation] > Seides [stones] > > Rauni [?] > > Tapio [Forest] > Tiermes [Thunder] > Tuoni [underworld > Tursas [Monster] > > Ukko (Isainen) [Thunder] > > Vainamoinen [Hero] > Veralden-radien [World Pillars] > > Waralden Olmai [World] > > JAPANESE GODS > > Aji-Suki-Taka-Hi-Kone (Aji-Shiki-Taka-Hiko-Ne) [Thunder] > Ama-No-Minakanushi-No-Kumi [Pole Star] > Ame-No-Oshido-Mimi [Refusal] > Ama-No-Uzume [Fertility] > Ama-Tsu-Kami [Heavenly Gods] > Amatsu Mikaboshi [Evil] > Ame-No-Hohi [Disappeared] > Ame-No-Wakahiko [Ruled Earth] > > Bimbo-Gami [Poverty] > Bishamon [War] > > Chimata-No-Kami [Rain/Sea] > > Daikoku [Wealth] > > Ebisu [Labor] > > Fuchi [Fire] > Fukurokuju (Fukuro kuju) [Wisdom] > Futsunushi [Lightening] > > Gozu-Tenno [Plague] > > Haya-Ji (Haya-Tsu-Muji-No-Kami) [Whirlwind] > Hikohohodemi [Hero] > Hinokagutsuchi [Fire] > Hiruko [Morning Sun] > Hoderi [?] > Hisa-Me [Devils] > Ho-Masubi (Kagu Zuchi) [Fire] > Hosuseri [?] > Hotei [Laughter] > > Inari [Prosperity] > Izanagi [Creator] > Izanami [Mother] > > Jikoku [Guardians] > Jimmu Tenno [Founder] > Jurojin (Jorojin) [Longevity] > > Kagu-tsuchi [Fire] > Kamado-gami [Hearth] > Kami [Divinities] > Kami-Musubi (Kami-mi-masubi) [?] > Kami-Nari [Thunder] > Kamui [sky] > Kappa [Water] > Kawa-No-Kami [Rivers] > Kishijoten [Luck] > Kishimojin [Demon] > Komoku [south] > Kompira [Wealth] > Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime (Kono-no-hana-saku-ya-hime) [?] > Kono-Hana-Sakuya-Hime Kuni-Toko-tachi [First] > Kuni-Tsu-Kami [Earth] > Kura-Okami [Rain/Snow] > > Nai-No-Kami [Earthquakes] > Naka-Yama-Tsu-Mi [Mountain Slopes] > Ningyo [Mermaid] > Ninigi [Ruler Earth] > > O-Kuni-Nushi (Okuninushi) [Medicine/Sorcery] > Onamuji [Earth] > Omiwa [Protective] > Oni [Demons] > O-Wata-Tsumi [sea] > O-Yama-Tsu-Mi (O-yama-tsuni) [Mountain] > > Raiden [Thunder] > Ryo-Wo [sea] > Ryujin (Ryugin) [Thunder/Rain] > > Sae-No-Kami [Roads] > > Sengen-Sama [Guarded Holy Moutain] > Sennin [immortals] > Shichi-Fukujin [Luck] > Shiko-Me [Devils] > Shine-Tsu-Hiko [Wind] > Shitatera-Hime [?] > Shi-tenno [Cardinal Direction Guardians] > Shojo [satyrs] > Soko-No-Kuni [underworld] > Suitengu [sea] > Sukuna-bikone (Suku-na-biko) [Hot Springs] > Shoki [Enemy of Devils] > Susanowo (Susanoo, Susa-no-wo) [storms] > Takamimusubi (Taka-mi-masubi) [Royal Family] > Takemikadzuchi [Thunder] > Take-Mi-Musubi [sun] > Taki-Tsu-Hiko [Rain] > Tatsuta-hime [Autumn] > Ten-gu (Tengu) [Mountain/Forest] > Tenjin (Temmangu) [Learning/Calligraphy] > Tsuki-Yomi (Tsukiyomi) [Moon] > > Uji-gami [Ancestors] > Uke-Mochi-No-Kami (Ukemochi, Waka-Uke-Nomi, Toyo-Uke-Bime) [Fertility and > Food] > Uzume [Mirth] > > Wakahiru-me [Rising Sun]\ > Wata-tsu-mi [sea] > > Yabune [House] > > Zocho [south] > > Shinto Amaterasu [sun] > > Ama-Tsu-Mara [smiths] > > Ame-No-Kagase-Wo [Astral] > Ame-No-Mi-Kumari-No-Kami [Water] > Amenominakanushi (Ame-No-Minaka-Nushi-No-Kami) [supreme] > Am-No-Tanabata-Hime-No-Mikoto [Weavers] > Ame-No-Toko-Tachi-No-Kami [Elemental] > Ame-no-uzume [Dancers] > > Benten (Benten-San, Benzaiten, Benzaiten) [Eloquence+] > > Fujin [Wind] > > Hachiman [War] > Ho-musubi [Fire] > > Kami [idols] > > SOUTH ASIAN GODS > > Cao Dai(Chinese: Gao-Tai) [supreme] > > Debata [?] > > Empung Luminuut [?] > > Hainuwele [?] > > Hananim [sky] > > Hmin [Ague] > > Karei [supreme] > Kinharingan [Creator] > Kud [Evil] > > Laseo [sun] > Lature Dano [supreme] > Lowalangi(Lowalani) [World Above] > > Mahatala (Mahataral) [supreme?] > Ma-zu [?] > > Nanmata (Namite) [Primeval] > Narbrooi [Woodlands] > Nemu [Primodial] > > Palk [sun] > Puang Matowa [sky] > Pulug [Thunder] > > Reahu [Dark Demon] > Rigenmucha [supreme] > > Silewe Nazarata [?] > Sirao [First] > > Ta Pedn [?] > Tnong [sun] > Tumbrenjak [Original Man] > > Upulevo [sun] > > Wunekau [sun] > > CENRAL AND WEST ASIAN GODS > > Abyrga [snake] > Afi [Rain/Thunderstorms] > Aitvaras [Evil] > Alardi [spirit] > Aralo [Agriculutre] > Armaz [supreme] > Auseklis (Ausrine) [stellar] > > Baba [spirit] > Baba Yaga (Jezi-Baba) [Ogress] > Bagvarti [?] > Bangputys [sea] > Bannik [baths] > Bagisht [Flood/Prosperity] > Barastir (Barastaer) [underworld] > Bardha [Elves] > Beg-tse (Cam-srin) [War] > Beng [satan] > Biegg-Olmai [Wind] > Bogatyri [Heroes] > Boldogasszony (Kisboldogasszony) [Protector Women/Children] > Bolla (Bullar) [Demon] > Buga [supreme] > Bukura e dheut > [Good Spirit] > Bukuri e qiellit [Jehovah] > Byelobog (Bielbog) [?] > Byelun [?] > > Chernobo(Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [?] > Chors [sun] > > Dabog [sun] > Deive [stone Spirits] > Dieva deli [?] > Dievini [Less Known Gods] > Dievs [sky] > Djall [Devil] > Domovoi (Domovoy) [Household] > Donbittir [Water/Fish] > Drag-gshed [Eight Terrible Gods] > Dud [Heavenly Spirit] > Dvorovoi [Courtyard] > Dyavo [Demons] > > En [?] > Erlik [King of the Dead] > Es [sky] > > Fatit [Destiny] > Fene [Demon] > > Gabija (Gabieta, Gabeta) [Fire] > Gabjauja [Corn] > Giltine [Death] > Guta [Demon] > > Hadur [War] > Himavat [Himalayas] > Horagalles [War] > > Isdustaya and Papaya [Fate] > Isten [supreme] > > Jagaubis [Fire] > Jarovit (Gerovitus) [War] > Jessis [avatar Jupiter] > Jumis [Fertility] > Juras Mate [Water] > > Kaka-Guia [Funerary] > Kalvis [smith] > Karta [Fate] > Kaukas [?] > Khors [Health/Hunting] > Khyung-gai mGo-can [?] > Kikimora [Household] > K'op'ala [Protective] > Kukuth (Kukudhi) [sickness] > Kulshedra (Kucedre) [Demon] > Kun-tu-bzan-po [Chief Bon] > Kupala [Water/Magic/Herbs] > Kurdalaegon [blacksmiths] > > Laima [Fate] > Lamaria [Hearth] > Laskowice (Leshcia) [Forest] > Lauka Mate [Fields/Fertility] > Laume [Fairy] > Leshy [Forest] > Lha [bon Gods] > Lhamo [?] > Ljeschi (Lychie) [Fauns and Satyrs] > Ljubi [Demon] > > Manzasiri [Primeval] > Mate [Mother] > Mati Syra Zemlya [Earth] > Medeine (Mejdejn) [Woods] > Meness [Moon] > Menulis [Moon] > Meza Mate [Nature] > Mirsa [Light] > Mokos [Fertility] > Mu (rMu) [Heavenly] > Muma Padura [Wood] > Myesyats (Czarnobog, Czerneboch, Cernobog) [Moon] > > Nang Lha [Household] > Nari [Demon] > Nari [sky] > Num [sky] > > Odqan [Fire] > Ora [Protective] > Ordog [Dark] > > Pekar (Pehar) [Demon] > Peko [barley] > Perendi [Jehovah] > Perit [Mountain Spirits] > Perkons [Thunder] > Perkunas [Thunder] > Perun (Peroun) [Thunder] > Polevik [Field] > Poludnitsa [Field] > Pon [sky] > Porenutius (Porevit) [?] > Preas Eyn [?] > Preas Eyssaur [Destructive] > Preas Prohm [Primeval] > > Prende (Prenne) [Love] > Psezpolnica (Polish Poludnica) [Midday] > Pugu [sun] > > Qormusta (Chormusta) [High] > > Rugievit [War] > Rusalki (Rusalka) [Water/Woodlands] > > Safa [Weapens] > Sanda [?] > Sarkany [Weather] > Saule [sun] > Saules meitas [?] > Selardi [Moon] > Shen-Lha-od-dkar [bon] > Shen-rab [Founder Bon] > Sipe Gyalmo [bon] > Shiwini [sun] > Shosshu [smiths] > Siwini [sun] > Srat [Demon] > Sri [Demon] > Sridevi [?] > Stribog [Winds] > Svantevit (Svantoveit, Svantovitus) [War/Agriculture] > Svarog [sky] > Syen [Guardian] > Stihi [Demon] > > Teljavelik [Heavenly Smith] > Telyaveli [smiths] > Tengri [Heavenly Beings] > Tesheba [Weather] > Thab-lha [Hearth] > Triglav (Trigelawus) [War] > > Uacilla [Thunder/Rain] > Ulgen [Creator] > Urme [Fate] > Usins [?] > > Vadatajs [Evil] > Vampire [soul of Dead] > Veela [Kindess] > Veja mate [Winds] > Veles (Volos) [underworld] > Velnias [Devil] > Velu mate [Dead] > Verbti [Fire/North Wind] > Vila [Water] > Vilkacis (Lithuanian Vilkatas) [Werewolf] > Vlkodlaks (Vookodlaks) [Werewolf] > Vodnik [Demon] > Vodyanoi [Water] > Volos (Volusu) [Cattle] > > We [supreme] > > Xhindi [spirits] > > Yarilo [Love] > > Zaltys [Grass Snake] > Zemepatis (Zemempatis) [supreme] > Zemes mate [Mother] > Zemyna (Zemyneles) [Earth] > Zorya [Guardian] > Zvezda Dennitsa and Zvezda Vechernyaya [Morning and Evening Star] > > SIBERIAN GODS > > Ai Tojon [Light] > Ajysyt [Mother] > Anky-Kele [sea] > Ayi [Creator] > > Hittavainen, Hittauanin [Hare-Hunters] > Hinkon [Death Demon] > > K'daai [Fire Demon] > Kaltes [The Goddess] > Ke'lets [Death Demon] > Kurkil [Creator] > Kutkinnaku [Good Spirit] > > Mayin [supreme] > > Picvu'cin [Hunting/Wild Animals] > > Shurdi [Thunderstorms] > > Tomam [bird] > Tomor(Tomorr) [Father Creator] > > Xucau [supreme] > > Ye'loje (Pugu) [sun] Quote
Guest Pastor Frank Posted November 29, 2006 Posted November 29, 2006 "Azure" <tain@pharae.org> wrote in message news:456BB6F0.54B0CCB3@pharae.org... > Bill M wrote: >> >> There is strong evidence that god beliefs are all nothing more than the >> creations of man. >> Of course they are. That's what the Bible tells us. The Bible was written BY MAN, in the inspiration of God. (2Tm:3:16) >> If there was a REAL god he would destroy the thousands of false gods and >> And destroy any real and free choice you have? >> establish his authenticity, wishes and commands directly from his heaven. > He did by inspiring good men to write the Bible, the holy and inerrant Word of God. > Did, Tower of Babel, all tell the tale of their tribe. > Man is not United rather seeks chaos and discord no matter what the > attempts or > wishes of God. >> >> If man can communicate with the whole world by Phone, Radio, the Internet >> and TV it obviously would be no problem for any real god to communicate >> directly with his creations. >> He did and we killed the messenger. > >> There is an overwhelming multitude of religions and god beliefs. >> They can't all be true and no real god would permit this massive >> deception >> of his creations. >> Can't handle free choice? Perhaps YOU want to be a puppet on a string, most of us don't. We would rather take the risk of choosing wrong, than be told or be pre-programmed to make the right choice. Surprised? -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Quote
Guest Azure Posted December 14, 2006 Posted December 14, 2006 Hey, stop that! I do not like people making up lies about me. Pastor Frank wrote: > "Azure" <tain@pharae.org> wrote in messagenews:456BB6F0.54B0CCB3@pharae.org... The Only Part I did write is: > > Did, Tower of Babel, all tell the tale of their tribe. > > Man is not United rather seeks chaos and discord no matter what the > > attempts or > > wishes of God. > >> Quote
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