The bible... you know the real one... the original... bible...

[Ctrl]

Twist, twist, twist, Chubby Checker.

 

So... you aren't trying to appear bullied and picked on... as well as being meek?

 

If you are trying to assert your prowress around the board, you might want to go after bigger game than me. I'm nothing more than an overly opinionated newbie with nothing to prove. Everyone here has already handed my ass to me in one thread or another. If you are trying to become a big dog on GF, go after another big dog. "Owning" me won't earn you any respect from the members as everyone has already "owned" me.

 

Kindly explain the point of that then, as I am fucking slow.

 

You toss out false accusations and expect me to drop it?

 

I didn't toss out false accusations. I said

 

Then we have the folks that claim to have read the "original" hebrew and Greek, but haven't bothered to look at the PUBLISHED dead sea scrolls or their photographs.

 

That is what I said, because that is what YOU said. You assumed that you were included in those folks, and rightly so. In the shoutbox you had asked what problems I had with the bible, I said I had never read it, as I don't know greek, hebrew, sanscrit or aramaic. You said you had studied greek and hebrew (as has been pasted many times) and went on to correct the accepted translations to mean something entirely different than the "accepted" translations. I continued to hound you on what you were calling "original", and you prattlled on about the massionic scholars and how painstakingly they transposed the original books, for you to "pore" over and retranslate for us uneducated. I deferred to your understanding and suggested it was much greater than mine, if you could indeed read the original languages from an original source and asked you to make a thread about such, that we all might benefit from your pious understanding. You told me to do it, after saying that you had not seen the dead sea scrolls for yourself, but that they were not in disharmony with modern "bibles", at which time I decided you were completely full of shit. I can paste the whole fucking conversation, but if people really care, they can go look.

 

 

I have nothing to prove but if you toss around accusations which are easily remedied by providing proof, you bet I will do so.

 

I have yet to see a shred of "proof" of anything. You just keep accusing me of picking on you and "twisting your words" by quoting them. What exactly do you think I have accused you of? Suggesting that you know more than you do? YOU DID. You didn't make anything clear about lexicons, you said you ""studied the languages, and when I submitted to your "clearer" understanding due to your "studied" languages, you walked with it. You did not make any sort of preface that you didn't really know what the fuck you were talking about... you only gave me a better translation of the bible than that which is accepted by the other 2 billion Christians, and explained it solely as coming from your having "studied" Greek and Hebrew. Where and how much did you study them, while we are on the subject. I have a tourists translation book for Greek. I can say good morning and ask for the bathroom... have I also studied Greek?

 

 

 

I'm not wealthy. Damn, are you wanting to kidnap my children and hold them for ransom or something? What logic do you subscribe to? I'm asking because I want to live in the world where being a business owner automatically makes one wealthy. Ever heard of the things called taxes, business overhead, or employee wages?

 

Im sorry... did you get the impression that I believed that you were wealthy? No. I am suggesting that you IMPLY that you are wealthy.

 

I'm in the process of selling one of my companies and Hubby is already talking about what he wants to buy.

 

Let us dissect this. In the process of selling... to the Revlon guy... So... he has MADE YOU AN OFFER? You have told them that you will sell for X ammount of millions and they are considering it? What exactly does "in the process" mean for the sale of this ONE, of your plural companies entail? How far along are ya? I suggest that you would like to be bought, but absolutely no offers have been made. Do you realize that owning a company that is WORTH x ammount of millions (even if it is in debt) brings your total assets (not liquidity) outside of middle class? I mean... you do understand basic math as you used to be a millionare and are to be again soon... right?

 

He wants a new ranch (he already owns two) and to invest a couple million in the stock market (a resounding HELL NO from me).

 

I'm sorry. Are you REALLY trying to come across as modest here? Seriously... STFU. In context, not only do you imply wealth, but you brag on it.

 

Allow me to explain one last time. If someone looks up each individual word in a Spanish-English dictionary to create the sentence I love to eat strawberry flavored ice cream and they know nothing about the language, their outcome will be very different from someone who is able to translate the sentence when they are aware of the rules of Spanish grammar. That is what I was implying when I said "studied it." I am not fluent but I know the basic rules of grammar, verb-subject agreement, and idiomatic challenges. I am not fluent, I still use the assistance of lexicons, and I know the basic rules of grammar which help me understand the Bible more in depth. What is so complicated about that? Are you one of those types who believe everything is a conspiracy?

 

Allow me to explain in words of just one syllable where I can. Either you are using lexicons and trying to defy biblical schollars who have dedicated their lives to the study of this, based on your "study" of gramatic principals of Greek and Hebrew... or you are simply touting the work of biblical schollars as your own. Either way it is arrogant and deceptive.

 

In case you are uaware... you come across as a lying braggart, and then defend yourself with this obsequious servile victim shit when called on it. Don't poke the fucking bear if you dont like getting your ass kicked. The bear isn't oppressing you out of cruelty, the bear is just being a bear.

[Phantom]

So... you aren't trying to appear bullied and picked on... as well as being meek?

 

No- you said several times in the SB logs you were purposely trying to pick a fight with me. In my opinion, that means you do not have any legitimate debate or source of contention. Instead, you are just looking for some way to become known around the boards. This means, you are not worth my time.

 

I didn't toss out false accusations. I said

 

Then we have the folks that claim to have read the "original" hebrew and Greek, but haven't bothered to look at the PUBLISHED dead sea scrolls or their photographs.

 

That is what I said, because that is what YOU said.

 

I never said I hadn't reviewed the Dead Sea Scrolls and I challenge you to quote me in any comments anywhere on this board saying I have never read them.

 

I deferred to your understanding and suggested it was much greater than mine, if you could indeed read the original languages from an original source and asked you to make a thread about such, that we all might benefit from your pious understanding.

 

I don't remember you asking me to make a thread but I do remember you volunteering to make one and I said it was a good idea so we could take it out of the shout box.

 

You told me to do it, after saying that you had not seen the dead sea scrolls for yourself, but that they were not in disharmony with modern "bibles", at which time I decided you were completely full of shit.

 

The DSC's are not in disharmony with the modern Bible. Like I already said, although there are some transfixed verses or altered passages, the DSC's, Septuagint, and Massoretic texts are in harmony for the majority. Any texts that were copied in hand written form thousands of years apart are bound to have some inconsistencies. This does not mean they are completely in disharmony.

 

I have yet to see a shred of "proof" of anything. You just keep accusing me of picking on you and "twisting your words" by quoting them. What exactly do you think I have accused you of? Suggesting that you know more than you do? YOU DID.

 

Once again, we have a classic case of she said, he heard. If I had purposely been trying to mislead you, I would have kept up the claims. However, the moment you told me how it came across to you, I corrected you and apologized.

 

Where and how much did you study them, while we are on the subject. I have a tourists translation book for Greek. I can say good morning and ask for the bathroom... have I also studied Greek?

 

Greek Hooked on Phonics worked for me!

 

Im sorry... did you get the impression that I believed that you were wealthy? No. I am suggesting that you IMPLY that you are wealthy.

 

Ah, ok. I misunderstood. lol

 

Let us dissect this. In the process of selling... to the Revlon guy... So... he has MADE YOU AN OFFER? You have told them that you will sell for X ammount of millions and they are considering it? What exactly does "in the process" mean for the sale of this ONE, of your plural companies entail? How far along are ya? I suggest that you would like to be bought, but absolutely no offers have been made. Do you realize that owning a company that is WORTH x ammount of millions (even if it is in debt) brings your total assets (not liquidity) outside of middle class? I mean... you do understand basic math as you used to be a millionare and are to be again soon... right?

 

No offense, but those questions are way too personal. I already said there is nepotism involved as my great aunt is his right hand 'man.' If it hadn't been for her, Ron never would have known I existed or looked at me twice. It was a lucky break for me. Nothing else.

 

I'm sorry. Are you REALLY trying to come across as modest here? Seriously... STFU. In context, not only do you imply wealth, but you brag on it.

 

Bill Gates ain't got nuthin' on me!

 

In case you are uaware... you come across as a lying braggart, and then defend yourself with this obsequious servile victim shit when called on it. Don't poke the fucking bear if you dont like getting your ass kicked. The bear isn't oppressing you out of cruelty, the bear is just being a bear.

 

I disagree with your assessments. However, let's make it easier on the both of us, shall we?

PHANTOM IS A SHAMELESS LIAR, BRAGART, VICTIM, MINDLESS PIN-UP, EXAGERATOR, POOR DEBATER, AND SHE GOT OWNED BY A NEWBIE.

[Phantom]

For the record... the bikini pic was predicted.

 

Wrong thread, Biznatch.

 

Phantom: Making friends wherever she goes.

[ClassyMissFancy]

Isn't this the thread with the discussion about all of the shit you have lied about?

 

If so.. this is the right thread...

 

Ya.. the fake bikini pic was predicted.

 

No one said you are a pin-up... just the chick in the pic you posted.

[eddo]

Isn't this the thread with the discussion about all of the shit you have lied about?

 

If so.. this is the right thread...

 

Ya.. the fake bikini pic was predicted.

 

No one said you are a pin-up... just the chick in the pic you posted.

 

if only that wasn't her. I'd be able to sleep better at night.... sigh

[Phantom]

Isn't this the thread with the discussion about all of the shit you have lied about?

 

If so.. this is the right thread...

 

Ya.. the fake bikini pic was predicted.

 

No one said you are a pin-up... just the chick in the pic you posted.

 

Yes, it is a fake picture. The girl in the photo is actually an actress. In fact, when I met a couple of forum members from the parent site in person, I hired her to pretend to be me when "I" met them. I did this because I wanted to post that photo eventually and have everyone believe it was actually me. Since they had met "her" in person thinking it was me, now claiming that picture to be my own works according to my plan.

 

That's like the third time I have been accused of posting fake pics on this website. Perhaps I should start taking it as a compliment.

[Phantom]

Just to rub it in a little bit more:

 

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They all look like the same chica to me. However, I will admit I have been getting progessively uglier as I age (as the photos prove). Wow, whoever the girl is in the photos, she does look like one hot rich bitch. I bet she is multilingual by the looks of her.

[snafu]

Just to rub it in a little bit more:

 

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They all look like the same chica to me. However, I will admit I have been getting progessively uglier as I age (as the photos prove). Wow, whoever the girl is in the photos, she does look like one hot rich bitch. I bet she is multilingual by the looks of her.

 

 

Okay I'm officially a dirty old man. Thanks a lot Phantom.

[Phantom]

Okay I'm officially a dirty old man. Thanks a lot Phantom.

 

Don't thank me- Thank the girl in the pictures! We are two totally separate people, you know.

 

Any more accusations of me lying, CMF?

 

Note to MM: That is how it's done.

[Chi]

I would definitely take someone accusing you of posting false pictures of yourself as a compliment. Something along the lines of someone so good looking just couldn't possibly be interacting with us mere mortal, homely folk and on such a regular basis-lol. Wealthy and multi-lingual to boot!

 

But seriously, I believe those are real pictures of Phantom. For 1. I've interacted with her for quite some years, she is not one to lie. She jokes a lot, but is not a liar. And she will confess to things right away, if one is to mistake her over the top joking to actual truths. 2. I was and could have met her in person two summers ago when I was around her area. I didn't plan better thus it wasn't made possible. She also might meet up with some other members here from the looks of another post. I would think someone who posts false pictures of themselves would be more reluctant to meet in person with people. 3. She has mentioned to me before about people she has already met from another site as she has already stated.

[snafu]

The top right (bikni shot) is the only one I would doubt.

To much make up. I'm sure of the rest.

 

You were hot at 18! Okay I'll behave now..

 

I got daughters older than you. LOL

[phreakwars]

Just to rub it in a little bit more:

 

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They all look like the same chica to me. However, I will admit I have been getting progessively uglier as I age (as the photos prove). Wow, whoever the girl is in the photos, she does look like one hot rich bitch. I bet she is multilingual by the looks of her.

You ware too much makeup, I see through it, you look mediocre at best, but you at least have the ability to be cute when dressed up..

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[Phantom]

The top right (bikni shot) is the only one I would doubt.

To much make up. I'm sure of the rest.

 

Yes, they put way too much make-up on me on that day. Here is a black and white taken during the same shoot, Snaffie:

 

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Notice all my pics have a widows's peak hairline, a pointed chin, heart-shaped face, eyes that raise up on the bottom to where it almost looks like I am always squinting, and the excessive amount of blush in all of my pictures. I never could apply it well. And if you still can't tell the girl is the same person in all of the pictures, then I can't help you.

 

You were hot at 18! Okay I'll behave now..

 

I got daughters older than you. LOL

 

I'm 27 now Snaffie. Notice how I posted no pics past the age of 24- that is when I lost my looks. I would kill to look like that again but I need to face the facts it ain't gonna happen...

 

Now, I'm done with this thread. Although it is about my favorite subject in the world (Glorious wonderful ~ ME ~), it is getting a little sickening now. I personally would be repulsed with someone who posted so many pictures of themselves in one thread- even if they only did it to prove the naysayers wrong.

 

I would definitely take someone accusing you of posting false pictures of yourself as a compliment. Something along the lines of someone so good looking just couldn't possibly be interacting with us mere mortal, homely folk and on such a regular basis-lol.

 

Chi, you are ten times as attractive as me and you know it:

 

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Little miss porcelain doll! You, Tori, and Kathy are freaking gorgeous and you all know it. I should feel so blessed to be graced with all of your presences.

[Phantom]

You wear too much makeup, I see through it, you look mediocre at best

 

Very true. I can't apply make-up worth a shit and end up over doing it every time. Subtlety was never my strong point. And mediocre is a fitting adjective, methinks. Of course, you would scream in terror if you saw me without make-up.

 

Now, instead of derailing this treacherous thread that was deceitfully posted as a religious debate any further, ta-ta Ctrl! See you on the flip side. Try to say what you mean next time.

[Chi]

 

 

 

Chi, you are ten times as attractive as me and you know it.

 

I beg to differ. Very much so. But I will stop being a drooling lesbian now:p

 

You, Tori, and Kathy are freaking gorgeous and you all know it. I should feel so blessed to be graced with all of your presences

 

I will have to agree with this though and don't you forget it!lol j/k:D

[Chi]

Of course, you would scream in terror if you saw me without make-up.

 

Really, thank goodness for make-up! Sometimes I look alright without it, but damn, sometimes I could scare small children and even grown men without it-lol! I don't feel so bad though, even the most beautiful women out there look hideous without it sometimes- celebrities, models, people you would have never guessed, you name it! Even people you think are 'au naturale' are really not, they either have really good, expensive natural looking make-up on, subtle make-up on, or tons of work and treatments done to them and their skin. It is RARE when someone is COMPLETELY makeupless and still looks really good.

[Phantom]

I don't feel so bad though, even the most beautiful women out there look hideous without it sometimes- celebrities, models, people you would have never guessed, you name it! Even people you think are 'au naturale' are really not, they either have really good, expensive natural looking make-up on, subtle make-up on, or tons of work and treatments done to them and their skin. It is RARE when someone is COMPLETELY makeupless and still looks really good.

 

This is a fascinating video Chi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U&eurl=

 

It is just a little over a minute long and definitely worth watching. It shows the accelerated speed of a model getting a make-over, the photo shoot, then her photo getting digitally edited before her photo is plastered on a bill board. And women wonder why we have such fucked up self images. No woman looks like that- even the models in the pictures don't freaking look like that.

[Chi]

This is a fascinating video Chi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYhCn0jf46U&eurl=

 

It is just a little over a minute long and definitely worth watching. It shows the accelerated speed of a model getting a make-over, the photo shoot, then her photo getting digitally edited before her photo is plastered on a bill board. And women wonder why we have such fucked up self images. No woman looks like that- even the models in the pictures don't freaking look like that.

 

Yup, yup, yup. Don't I know this. I also get a kick out of the pictures of celebrities without make-up on that get published in magazines and such- yikes!!!! I was looking at one just last night while grocery shopping as a matter of fact. Even my bf was appalled-lol. I also saw Rebecca Romijn with no or barely any make-up on in person at O'Hare Airport one time when I worked for United and it was not pretty, let me tell you.... And that's that it always looks like she barely wears any make-up on, but she MUST because she looked totally different.

[phreakwars]

The bible, the bible...

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[Phantom]

The bible, the bible...

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Don't look at me! I tried keeping it on topic. I was deceived! Deceived, I tell you!

[phreakwars]

Had to have been the work of Satan himself.

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[Phantom]

That devil sure is a crafty fellow.

[eddo]

That devil sure is a crafty fellow.

 

Yeah she is...

[phreakwars]

Yeah she is...

Rep to eddo.

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[ClassyMissFancy]

Yes, it is a fake picture. The girl in the photo is actually an actress. In fact, when I met a couple of forum members from the parent site in person, I hired her to pretend to be me when "I" met them. I did this because I wanted to post that photo eventually and have everyone believe it was actually me. Since they had met "her" in person thinking it was me, now claiming that picture to be my own works according to my plan.

 

That's like the third time I have been accused of posting fake pics on this website. Perhaps I should start taking it as a compliment.

 

 

So then your natural haircolor (as is evident in your roots and eyebrows) changed from 18 to 20 then? And your nose got larger as well... and your cheek bones became lower... I see.

 

Wow.. you would be the only woman I know who's hair was still naturally changing color that sharply in her early 20s. Most of us are done with that by the time we are 12.

 

Any college pics with clothes on?