Why It Is Better To be A Woman

[snafu]

That is actually a big misconception. Any man can learn to separate orgasm from ejaculation and achieve multipule orgasms but it takes work.

 

Sex: A Man's Guide (1996)

"This is one of the secrets multiorgasmic men have learned: to "unhitch" orgasm from ejaculation. Essentially, they've learned to take themselves to the brink of ejaculation, then stop and relax, allowing the rush of orgasm to sweep over them; then they do it again."

 

There are two techniques for learning how to do this. Would you like me to post the details of the techniques as well?

 

Yeah you can post'em. I don't think it would help me per say.

 

But most men do try to relax before the ejaculation so they don't shot the load in the first 10 seconds. Or depending how horny they are. I've done that just about every time I've had sex. sometimes it don't work and it's all over in a blink of an eye.

[manicmonday]

This just makes me wonder if you know the 'multipule orgasm' we are talking about here. 99% is in the mans abitity to conrol himself and his own orgasm. We are not talking about the guys that can recover quickly and go for another round. That is why there were questions as to wether or not a man could actually have multipule orgasms. Everyone knows men can climax several times(2 or 3) in one night after small refractory periods, some smaller than others, but that is not what is meant by multipule orgasm.

 

 

Actually, I am well aware of what I am talking about, but if it makes you feel better to think I don't, go on and think that. It doesn't change how I do things in bed or how satisfied the man is afterwards.

 

I think it is a combination of two things in any sexual relationship, the woman's technique and the man learning to control himself that makes it work. When either of those doesn't happen, then yeah, multiple orgasm isn't going to happen for either party. But it can happen for both, it just takes time, practice and patience.

[Anna Perenna]

Actually, I am well aware of what I am talking about, but if it makes you feel better to think I don't, go on and think that. It doesn't change how I do things in bed or how satisfied the man is afterwards.

 

I think it is a combination of two things in any sexual relationship, the woman's technique and the man learning to control himself that makes it work. When either of those doesn't happen, then yeah, multiple orgasm isn't going to happen for either party. But it can happen for both, it just takes time, practice and patience.

 

I believe you, Miss Scorpio!

 

We can do things with our muscles down there that other girls simply can't grasp (pardon the pun).

 

And we also have instincts that other girls don't have. I bet you never needed to be taught anything, and neither did I.

 

I've just always known what to do.

[ToriAllen]

Actually, I am well aware of what I am talking about, but if it makes you feel better to think I don't, go on and think that. It doesn't change how I do things in bed or how satisfied the man is afterwards.

I think it is a combination of two things in any sexual relationship, the woman's technique and the man learning to control himself that makes it work. When either of those doesn't happen, then yeah, multiple orgasm isn't going to happen for either party. But it can happen for both, it just takes time, practice and patience.

Obviously, I’ve offended you. It wasn’t my intent. Clearly, you think yourself an expert through experience on all things sexual. I just need to clear one thing up. I go weeks sometimes months without debating anyone on here for a reason. It is the same reason I am sometimes perceived as being too self assured or conceited. I only disagree with someone when I am sure I am right. Human sexuality is a field of psychology that interests me and a large part of my library is devoted to it.

 

No one is debating your abilities in bed and obviously you need some sort of conformation that you are better than the average woman, so fine: You are wonderful in bed. The Kama Sutra Queen. You could teach professional whores a thing or two. You should open a school for the sexually impaired.

 

I am also not debating the fact that women who participate in sex make it more satisfying for the men. There are plenty of things women can do to facilitate orgasm in a man. Teasing or Tantric sex, variations in speed and movement, changes in position, the use of the wedge or sling to help with the more difficult positions, stimulation of the erogenous zones with the tongue or nibbling (ex. ear, neck, nipples, inner thighs, testes, penis), messaging the G-spot just before ejaculation, the use of toys, body oils(preferably flavored), the list goes on and on. Trust me; you are not reinventing the wheel here. Any woman can do this, most are just too lazy. So, I’m not debating your abilities to make a man ejaculate, keep an erection and ejaculate again a short time later, hence multiple orgasms but not a multiple orgasm. You’re ability is not the issue here. If a man you were with had an actual multiple orgasm then good for him, because the ability to separate orgasm from ejaculation is practiced and mastered by the man.

I believe you, Miss Scorpio!

We can do things with our muscles down there that other girls simply can't grasp (pardon the pun). And we also have instincts that other girls don't have.

 

Yes, it is a scientific fact that all those born under the sign of the Scorpion are sexual goddesses. Muscle manipulation isn’t really new and unique either, hence Kegel Exercises.

 

I bet you never needed to be taught anything, and neither did I.

This just struck me as really humorous. I’ve never met a human, male or female, that had to be taught how to have sex. Instinct usually kicks in during puberty.

 

I've just always known what to do.

It was probably latent learning that occurred in the early years through watching your coked out mom and her drunk ‘friends’.

[manicmonday]

Obviously, I’ve offended you.

 

Not offended. Amused again with your need to be the queen of all knowledge of the world, without taking into consideration for one second that someone else might have an idea as well. Well, most Queen Bees need to think that in order to survive.

 

It wasn’t my intent. Clearly, you think yourself an expert through experience on all things sexual.

Not an expert, but I do know what I am talking about, I am able to look at the topic more than one sided and from a different perspective.

 

I just need to clear one thing up. I go weeks sometimes months without debating anyone on here for a reason. It is the same reason I am sometimes perceived as being too self assured or conceited. I only disagree with someone when I am sure I am right.

And you think we are chewing our nails waiting for this? This is where the one sided personality comes from. Learn something new, or get an open mind to be able to learn it. It doesn't matter to me if you have a boring life, but it would make your life so much better.

 

And how do you know you are right? So that makes you the self proclaimed Dr. Ruth here? Queen Clitoris? My va-jay-jay wants on your mailing list, to get the lastest tips, if you don't mind.

 

Human sexuality is a field of psychology that interests me and a large part of my library is devoted to it.

No one is debating your abilities in bed and obviously you need some sort of conformation that you are better than the average woman, so fine: You are wonderful in bed. The Kama Sutra Queen. You could teach professional whores a thing or two. You should open a school for the sexually impaired.

You are the one with the library devoted to it, so I'm thinking I should come to you for advice, not the other way around. You said so yourself.

 

I am also not debating the fact that women who participate in sex make it more satisfying for the men. There are plenty of things women can do to facilitate orgasm in a man. Teasing or Tantric sex, variations in speed and movement, changes in position, the use of the wedge or sling to help with the more difficult positions, stimulation of the erogenous zones with the tongue or nibbling (ex. ear, neck, nipples, inner thighs, testes, penis), messaging the G-spot just before ejaculation, the use of toys, body oils(preferably flavored), the list goes on and on. Trust me; you are not reinventing the wheel here. Any woman can do this, most are just too lazy. So, I’m not debating your abilities to make a man ejaculate, keep and erection and ejaculate again a short time later, hence multiple orgasms but not a multiple orgasm. You’re ability is not the issue here. If a man you were with had an actual multiple orgasm then good for him, because the ability to separate orgasm from ejaculation is practiced and mastered by the man.

I didn't reinvent the wheel, however as I have stated before, I make the wheel go around better. But it sounds like your library is far better than anything I have going. You have dozens DEVOTED to it (your words) so Queen Clitoris, I'm now coming(pardon the pun) to you for advice.

[ToriAllen]

Not offended. Amused again with your need to be the queen of all knowledge of the world, without taking into consideration for one second that someone else might have an idea as well. Well, most Queen Bees need to think that in order to survive.

Not an expert, but I do know what I am talking about, I am able to look at the topic more than one sided and from a different perspective.

And you think we are chewing our nails waiting for this? This is where the one sided personality comes from. Learn something new, or get an open mind to be able to learn it. It doesn't matter to me if you have a boring life, but it would make your life so much better.

And how do you know you are right? So that makes you the self proclaimed Dr. Ruth here? Queen Clitoris? My va-jay-jay wants on your mailing list, to get the lastest tips, if you don't mind.

You are the one with the library devoted to it, so I'm thinking I should come to you for advice, not the other way around. You said so yourself.

I didn't reinvent the wheel, however as I have stated before, I make the wheel go around better. But it sounds like your library is far better than anything I have going. You have dozens DEVOTED to it (your words) so Queen Clitoris, I'm now coming(pardon the pun) to you for advice.

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[manicmonday]

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[ToriAllen]

Actually, I lost interest in the topic of multiple orgasms a long time ago. However, the fact that you have to be right, that amuses me to no end. I have my degree, remember?

There is no disagreement here, until you proclaimed to be Queen Clitoris. And for that I'm grateful, because I was tired of carrying the title. You don't debate, remember, you only come in when you think you are right.

Actually, I don't pay enough attention to you to know you have a degree or what it is in. So, you have a Psych degree with a concentration in Human Sexuality, then. Why didn't you just say so?

If you lost interest in the topic, why continue to argue? Obviously, if someone continues to so-say 'pretend' to be ignorant and argue the point from an ignorant stand point, then I will continue to try to explain the topic. I find it amusing that you would continue to spend time trying to argue a point that you had lost interest in 'a long time ago', and furthermore, knew was wrong. Since you said there is no disagreement, and I was right to begin with, I'm not sure why you feel the need to attack me. I'm not really sure what you want. Should I apologize for being right?

I mean, I understand if you are embarrassed that you didn’t really know what you were talking about and it is your way of making yourself feel better to say ‘I knew you were right all along and just wanted to argue with you for… God knows what reason.’ Maybe you really did know and you just enjoy making yourself look ignorant. Ya know, whatever.

I do only come in when I have actual knowledge of the topic at hand, unlike some other people. That doesn't mean I have never had my mind changed or my views of a topic broadened by others on this forum. It just means I try not to exert ignorant opinions about topics I’m not sure of.

[snafu]

I still don't believe men can have multiple orgasms. But I

[ToriAllen]

I still don't believe men can have multiple orgasms. But I

[manicmonday]

Actually, I don't pay enough attention to you to know you have a degree or what it is in. So, you have a Psych degree with a concentration in Human Sexuality, then. Why didn't you just say so?

No, not concentrated in Human Sexuality like Queen Clitoris yourself so obviously are, but Pysch degree non the less.

 

 

Should I apologize for being right?

You aren't right, you are just one sided. I'm not embarrassed, I'm just able to look at the issue a little more fully then the books that you read have taught you.

 

I do only come in when I have actual knowledge of the topic at hand, unlike some other people. That doesn't mean I have never had my mind changed or my views of a topic broadened by others on this forum. It just means I try not to exert ignorant opinions about topics I

[snafu]

Well I say we have a contest to see who if any can achive this.

[ToriAllen]

No, not concentrated in Human Sexuality like Queen Clitoris yourself so obviously are, but Pysch degree non the less.

Human Sexuality is an interesting field. You should look into it.

You aren't right, you are just one sided. I'm not embarrassed, I'm just able to look at the issue a little more fully then the books that you read have taught you.

Then why did you say you didn’t disagree and why do you keep avoiding the explanation of this ‘other side’?

I have actual knowledge of this very topic, not just from reading books. You know, real life experience. And not the slutty whore sexual perversion twist that will get taken on that statement, I'm sure. But multiple climax, both in women and men, is not controlled from one side or the other. It is a two party effort. I don't know why that is so hard for you to grasp, but again, whatever. If you feel comfortable with letting the man take the whole responsiblity for his orgasm, it isn't my place to judge. However, I like to take a little more control over the situation. It doesn't take the whole library that you have dedicated to this subject to tell you that sex is a two party involvment. Otherwise, masturbation would be enough. It isn't. Maybe in your library it is. In mine it isn't.

 

Some people read about sex and some people actual pratice the art of it.

I don’t think you understand this topic. You seem to forget, I’m married. I don’t just read books. I actually know the difference in a man having multiple orgasms with ejaculation and a man having a multiple orgasm without. I also know that this is a technique that has to be practiced by the man for a while before mastering it. You keep trying to bring the conversation back to ‘women should be involved during sex’ and ‘leaving the responsibility of orgasm up to the male?’ Didn’t quite understand where that last one came from. I believe I have said several times that, obviously, during sex, a woman should be a fully engaged participant to make things more pleasurable for the man. I don’t know why you keep bringing that up. It has nothing to do with the man’s ability to separate orgasm from ejaculation, and obviously masturbation is enough to make this occur because it has worked for quite a few men.

 

I thought you were bored with this topic?

[manicmonday]

I thought you were bored with this topic?

 

I imagine the boredom comes from your bedroom, dear. You think you have book knowledge on a topic and I'm sure you do, but it is is the practical field where you are lacking. Marriage means nothing. I've been married and I've children. And the point of that was?

 

And actually, I have said many times in this thread, it is both parties responsibilities. You must not have read over that part. But it isn't just one or the other person. It is both. Surely your vast library has taught you that. Or even marriage. Mine did.

[Anna Perenna]

... all those born under the sign of the Scorpion are sexual goddesses.

 

Thanks. I agree

 

Muscle manipulation isn

[Msixty]

turns up Centerfold by J Giels Band

 

this is entertainment

 

girls arguing about who knows what about sex like it matters

 

and the best part is snaf popping in with his little comments lol

 

 

as for men and multi, well, all i gotta say is, if it is possible, both people gotta some other kinda whore, that shit would be hard.

[Anna Perenna]

turns up Centerfold by J Giels Band

 

 

Your anus is the centrehole.

[Msixty]

Your anus is the centrehole.

 

 

 

 

ghasp cough such.... witty... com..coment, can't...go.on...

 

 

anyway, this does not change the fact that you're arguing about this crap like it matters. it's great that you are, but it still does not matter. ok, back to your pussy fight

[Anna Perenna]

Your anus is the centrehole

ghasp cough such.... witty... com..coment, can't...go.on...

anyway, this does not change the fact that you're arguing about this crap like it matters. it's great that you are, but it still does not matter. ok, back to your pussy fight

My blood runs cold!

Yeah, my mammaries have just been sold.

..........

My anus is the centrehole.

[Anna Perenna]

By the way:

 

[Today 03:59 PM] snafu: Bingo!

[Today 03:58 PM] Anna Perenna: you're thinking about me as you have a multiple orgasm, of course!

[Today 03:58 PM] snafu: Anna can you tell me what I'm thinking?

[Msixty]

My blood runs cold!

Yeah, my mammaries have just been sold.

..........

My anus is the centrehole.

 

LOL it's infectious

[manicmonday]

Well I say we have a contest to see who if any can achieve this.

 

 

Some of us have, this is how we know. We got our noses out of a book and made it happen. Those how can do and those how can't read about it.

[ToriAllen]

I imagine the boredom comes from your bedroom, dear. You think you have book knowledge on a topic and I'm sure you do, but it is is the practical field where you are lacking. Marriage means nothing. I've been married and I've children. And the point of that was?

You can continue to try to get into a discussion with me about my sex life vs you and yours, but it isn’t going to happen. This is about one simple thing: male multiple orgasms.. If my bedroom life was ‘so’ boring and I was the type to talk about my sexual exploits, I could always take a page from your book and make shit up.

And actually, I have said many times in this thread, it is both parties responsibilities. You must not have read over that part. But it isn't just one or the other person. It is both. Surely your vast library has taught you that. Or even marriage. Mine did.

 

Again, you are talking about something completely different. Maybe you read over the fact that I said once sex begins, yes it is. But the learning and control involved in having a multiple orgasm rests with the man alone. Or have you skipped over what I’ve been posting? Quit bringing this back around to men having orgasms in general or even having a few in a row during sex.

 

You know what, now I’m bored. Looking back on the posts, you haven’t said one thing to refute what I’m saying, and you have the attention span of a gnat.

 

I don't know what Kegel exercises are, and I've certainly never done one.

Most women don’t have to do them until after they have children, but it strengthens the muscles down there.

 

It didn’t strike you as humorous, actually. You are just trying to pretend it did. As IFI am alluding to not having to be taught how to have BASIC SEX.

Actually, it did. I knew what you were trying to say, but the way you said it left it open to a different interpretation.

Uh, you can retract that pathetically gay low blow anytime you like. Or were you trying to be funny?

Well, I would have put a smilie, but I know how much you hate them.

 

Either way, the fact that you are resorting to making far fetched accusations about my mum just shows that you have pretty much lost this 'debate'.

You weren’t part of this debate.

Good idea putting debate in parenthesis. It is kind of one sided. MM would rather try to convince everyone that she is good in bed than debate the actual issue.

 

I’m sorry you can’t handle the fact that I’m good in bed, and that I don’t need to read books and study the art of pleasure in order to know what men like.

It doesn’t take a genius to please a man. I study because I’m interested in the psychology and biology behind our actions. Sex is one of the most basic, but also one with the most misconceptions, because everyone over sixteen thinks they are an expert. I’ve never met anyone who said they were bad in bed.

 

Why are you trying so hard to put me down?

 

Oh, jealousy .....

I wasn’t trying to put you down. If you want in on the discussion, find out what it is about first. It certainly isn’t about MM’s sexual abilities.

Some of us have, this is how we know. We got our noses out of a book and made it happen.

I’m sure all of us have made a man have more than one orgasm in a single session of love making. Not what multiple orgasm is. If you were with a man who could have a multiple orgasm, again, kudos to him for learning how. Not sure what you want. Congratulations for facilitating a man with an ability he probably spent time developing?

 

No one is questioning your competency in the bedroom, least of all me. No one on this site has actually screwed you, so everyone just has to take your word on that anyway. My only objection was you taking credit for what is essentially, mentally and physically, something the men must learn.

Those how can do and those how can't read about it.

What? I’m confused. How? What were you trying to say?

There are those who can’t do and there are those who can’t read about it?

I think anyone can read about it if they are interested in that kind of thing. I suggest looking up the studies of Masters and Johnson.

[Phantom]

you sir are correct. Most women are terrible fucks.

 

They...have issues with swallowing

 

...wont kiss you after you eat them...

 

...refuse to have sex on their period

 

That just about sums up all of my sexual neuroses.

 

But I am a horrible lay and have never denied it.

[snafu]

That just about sums up all of my sexual neuroses.

 

But I am a horrible lay and have never denied it.

 

 

He's full of shit. Sure if she moves around and moans a lot the nut is more gratifying but I've never had bad sex. You just lay there honey and let me do the work.