Do Suicides Deserve our Sympathy, Disgust, or Indifference?

[Phantom]

Suicides: Victims in need of our sympathy or selfish pricks who took the easy way out?

 

When should suicide be an acceptable method of release from pain and suffering? When is it a selfish and unforgivable act? Should attempted suicide be punishable by law or should this act fall under the individual's right to die?

 

Should age make a difference? Perhaps it is more acceptable for an elderly person to take their own life? Would you agree it is foolish for a teenager to take their own life?

 

What about people who have no family vs. those that leave parents, spouses, and children behind? Does suicide aid in natural selection by removing the idiots, is it a personal choice and nobody else's businesses, or is it utterly selfish and unforgivable?

[Chi]

I base my opinion on a case to case basis.

[phreakwars]

They deserve our side splitting laughter and nothing more.

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[tiredofwhiners]

If there off set enough to take there own life, they wouldn't be beyond taking someone else's with them. So i say.....

 

1) here's a 9mm with a bullet hold it to the side of your head. To much to bounce off of going threw the mouth plus a wrong angle makes you a vegetable and someone else's problem. And a shot gun messy and to much chance of the vegetable thing.

 

2) If you choose a wrist slit..Don't go across the street (across the wrist) go down the street (with the vain) you bleed out much faster. Less chance to get saved.

 

3) Hanging your thing? A good strong anchor point is a must, and make sure you account for stretch in figuring a rope length. Nothing worse than a nasty rope burn to the neck

 

4) Just want to sleep away...least messy for those who find you. Make sure if this is the route that you have a good seal (duct tape) on the windows and hose. Also wait till no one is home, in case you have a attached garage in case of a leak you don't want to harm others sleeping in the house.

 

5) Pills to much work...see ideas 1-4

 

Have a nice day and you'll feel better once you make the choice.

[phreakwars]

Why is it so fucking politically correct to tell someone they should live anyway ?? I do not believe for one minute that a person would be pushed over the edge if I tell them I could give a shit either way if they kill themselves.

 

If your gonna fucking do it, your mind was probably made up long before that.

 

Suicide is the biggest attention whoring that anybody could do.

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[Phantom]

If there off set enough to take there own life, they wouldn't be beyond taking someone else's with them. So i say.....

 

1) here's a 9mm with a bullet hold it to the side of your head. To much to bounce off of going threw the mouth plus a wrong angle makes you a vegetable and someone else's problem. And a shot gun messy and to much chance of the vegetable thing.

 

2) If you choose a wrist slit..Don't go across the street (across the wrist) go down the street (with the vain) you bleed out much faster. Less chance to get saved.

 

3) Hanging your thing? A good strong anchor point is a must, and make sure you account for stretch in figuring a rope length. Nothing worse than a nasty rope burn to the neck

 

4) Just want to sleep away...least messy for those who find you. Make sure if this is the route that you have a good seal (duct tape) on the windows and hose. Also wait till no one is home, in case you have a attached garage in case of a leak you don't want to harm others sleeping in the house.

 

5) Pills to much work...see ideas 1-4

 

Have a nice day and you'll feel better once you make the choice.

 

 

That's a little bit...er...morbid. But:

 

Gun shot: Messy and too probable one could end up in a vegetative state, like you said.

 

Slit wrist: Yes, it should be vertical- not horizontal. If you can manage to put up with the blood spurting out of your veins, more power to you.

 

Hanging: Ugh. This would suck for those who do it and change their mind while they are hanging there slowly strangling to death.

 

Exhaust fumes: The only way to go! Quiet, peaceful, and painless. But you would be royally fucked if you someone saved you midstream and you ended up having brain damage from the carbon monoxide exposure.

 

Pills: Too much work? How so? Other than laying there while you are slowly convulsing, it's the bitch way to go.

 

TOW and I are now tied for the most morbid comment of the day award.

 

Suicide is the biggest attention whoring that anybody could do.

 

It most certainly is. It is also cowardly, selfish, and unfair (to the ones you left behind).

[Jhony5]

Suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness. In all cases with the exception of terminally ill people that will suffer until the end. I feel for those who kill themselves because of unimaginable suffering. A man that kills himself because hes bummed that his wife left him and took the kids, deserves only a hearty urination upon his grave.

[Phantom]

Suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness. In all cases with the exception of terminally ill people that will suffer until the end. I feel for those who kill themselves because of unimaginable suffering. A man that kills himself because hes bummed that his wife left him and took the kids, deserves only a hearty urination upon his grave.

 

Just my personal take on it:

 

100% Acceptable: And elderly person who has lived a long and fulfilling life, is in severe pain, no medication can alleviate this pain, and they are ready to "go home."

 

0% Acceptable: A 17 year old piece of shit is pissed off because his girlfriend of two weeks broke up with him, he failed his English exam, and is fighting with his parents.

 

The above examples are obviously extreme "black" and "white" examples. Of course, most suicide cases fall into in the grey area. Everyone has a right to die but this does not mean you have the right to be selfish and hurt your loved ones who are depending on you (as in a parent who kills themselves while their children are at school).

 

Suicides do receive my sympathy because it must suck to be in such a horrid condition where you feel this very permanent solution is the only one available to you. Yet, at the same time, it is gutless and selfish.

[Jhony5]

0% Acceptable: A 17 year old piece of shit is pissed off because his girlfriend of two weeks broke up with him, he failed his English exam, and is fighting with his parents.

When I was in high school there was this popular guy that had a long time girlfriend break up with him. He threatened to kill himself if she didn't take him back. So....he drove his truck headlong into a tree at 75 MPH and died. Everyone in my school felt so sorry for him, and vilanized his girlfriend. At their funeral 3 girls kicked her ass very thoroughly while many others cheered them on. Suicide does have a psychological effect on many people, causing them to feel empathy for the cause of the deceased.

[eisanbt]

Everyone has a right to die but this does not mean you have the right to be selfish and hurt your loved ones

 

This argument is a sketchy one. By this same logic, that choosing a path which leads to death or something similar is wrong, is the same thing as saying that I'm not allowed to smoke or drink or drive a car or bungee jump because they could all result in my death. I would say that a person who dies while knowingly working a dangerous job is in the same field as a one who makes the direct decision to end their life, but neither are in the wrong.

 

People die, loved ones included. Life goes on. I am against vengeful suicides, hanging yourself from the rafters in your wife's bedroom for example, but I have no guff with somebody who just slips away and ends their own life.

[Jhony5]

I am against vengeful suicides, hanging yourself from the rafters in your wife's bedroom for example, but I have no guff with somebody who just slips away and ends their own life.

What about people with children that commit suicide? Thats the epitome of selfishness. Leaving them to navigate this complicated world because you can't handle stress. Many times its just psychological revenge, not only meant to make the spouse feel guilty, but to make the child feel as if the one parent caused the other to die.

[ParasiteGod]

They deserve grattitude for giving us Rotten fodder.

[Phantom]

When I was in high school there was this popular guy that had a long time girlfriend break up with him. He threatened to kill himself if she didn't take him back. So....he drove his truck headlong into a tree at 75 MPH and died. Everyone in my school felt so sorry for him, and vilanized his girlfriend. At their funeral 3 girls kicked her ass very thoroughly while many others cheered them on.

 

Bleeding heart alert: I feel sorry for him- I do. However, what he did was beyond stupid and those girls had no right to do what they did.

 

People die, loved ones included. Life goes on. I am against vengeful suicides, hanging yourself from the rafters in your wife's bedroom for example, but I have no guff with somebody who just slips away and ends their own life.

 

What about people with children that commit suicide? Thats the epitome of selfishness. Leaving them to navigate this complicated world because you can't handle stress. Many times its just psychological revenge, not only meant to make the spouse feel guilty, but to make the child feel as if the one parent caused the other to die.

 

Revenge suicides piss me off beyond belief and are nothing short of manipulative. My husband's mother left his father when my husband was seven years old (he was physically abusive). To get back at her, he killed himself. Then, several months ago one of my husband's friends hung herself while her children were at school because her boyfriend recently ended things.

 

WTF is wrong with such people? Once you have children, your life is no longer about YOU. Who in the hell could be so selfish to leave their children behind? This world is a fucking tough place to navigate. Having loving parents at least makes it possible. But when mommy and daddy think they can't handle it anymore and leave their kids behind, I want to hold a seance just so I can kick their fucking ass.

[snafu]

Nobody has the right to tell me to live. Period!

If I was dealt a bad hand and wanted to fold it's my prerogative. The living would grieve. And ponder their own mortality. But It's my life.

 

Previous posts on the subject.

http://Off Topic Forum.com/showthread.php?t=152926

 

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Edited April 2, 2016 by rem

[Jhony5]

Nobody has the right to tell me to live. Period!

If I was dealt a bad hand and wanted to fold it's my prerogative. The living would grieve. And ponder their own mortality. But It's my life.

When you die, or in this case choose to die, you leave behind your responsibilities. There is no greater responsibility than that of your children. To just say "fuck it, I quit" when you have children, is a selfish and horrible last goodbye to your kids.

 

Suicide and our opinions about it have too be a case by case issue. Only a bible thumping hardass would have issue with a person fast dying of stomach cancer taking their own life.

 

If I was facing 30+ years in federal "pound me in the ass" prison, you might find me hanging from the rafters in my garage with a bullet wound in my head, the fumes of carbon monoxide wafting heavily and enough Xanex in my system to kill an elephant. Ya hey, when all hope is lost why the hell not. I guess the definition of "all hope being lost" is up for personal review.

 

That being said, I could never kill myself over some bitch.

[rizzo]

I think that some people who commit suicide deserve our sympathy. Can you imagine being at a place in your life where you really thought death was better? To be so hopeless? I find that sad.

 

I don't have sympathy for the "my boyfriend/girlfriend broke up with me" crowd. That's mostly a pathetic cry for attention, and probably they end up dying when they really didn't mean to.

 

Terminallly ill people should have the right to end their lives if they choose.

[ParasiteGod]

When you die, or in this case choose to die, you leave behind your responsibilities. There is no greater responsibility than that of your children. To just say "fuck it, I quit" when you have children, is a selfish and horrible last goodbye to your kids.

 

 

So obviously that person is a shitty parent, and probably worthless anyway. Let them die.

[Msixty]

with the exeption of a pulling of the plug (movie million dollar baby anyone?) i think if you commit suicide, your a damn fool and darwin just says more power to ya. the BF/GF broke up with me bullshit is a horrible excuse, the body should be cremated and used for fertaliser with other mounds of shit.

 

and if you want to go with a gunsot, do it with a .45 and make sure it's under the chin at a slight backward angle. the .45 will ensure penetration and compleat dessimation of the brain, and if you shoot at the side/front/back of your head the bullet can ride your skull and come out the other side avoiding your brain. and for god sake, don't leave a round in the gun, what if someone finds it?

 

so that's my opinion/advice (don't you wish i could run the suicide hotline?

 

NOW, what do we think of assisted suicide? i think it's not been covered yet.

[Jhony5]

So obviously that person is a shitty parent, and probably worthless anyway. Let them die.

Not necessarily. I lived 5 houses down from a man in Franklin Indiana about 3 years ago. Everyone that knew him said he was a great father, church going fella and very active with his kids. Then his wife left him. The day that he was due in court to settle the custody of his children, the freak shot his 1 year old and 3 year old daughters, then himself. A good parent gone bad. An extreme case of reversal of behavior. Some people just have a defective coping mechanism. You never know what someone is capable of until they break.

[ParasiteGod]

 

and if you want to go with a gunsot, do it with a .45 and make sure it's under the chin at a slight backward angle. the .45 will ensure penetration and compleat dessimation of the brain, and if you shoot at the side/front/back of your head the bullet can ride your skull and come out the other side avoiding your brain. and for god sake, don't leave a round in the gun, what if someone finds it?

 

Can I still get the stipling look with the .45?

 

Assisted suicide... uhm... yeah. I'm all for assisted suicide. At least you were able to admit you didn't have the balls to do it yourself. If I'm ok with unassisted suicide, then why not be ok with assisted suicide?

...How much do they get paid? Aw, nevermind, I don't care about the money. As long as I love what I'm doing.

If you're terminally ill and gonna die in a few weeks, with suffering, then you may commit suicide. Assisted or not, yes you may.

If you're mentally unstable and just at that point, try getting help but if that's what you really want to do, go for it.

If you're just a loser with some lame excuse like "I maxed out my credit cards and I can't binge shop anymore!" or "My girlfriend dumped me!" then yeah, do it. In fact, I'll pay you to kill yourself.

 

 

Actually, when I was 15, a friend of mine killed himself. As upset as I was that he was dead, I didn't respect him less because it was suicide. I have trouble understanding what the big deal is when it comes to suicide. People act so shocked an appalled, and I just don't get it.

[snafu]

 

Actually, when I was 15, a friend of mine killed himself. As upset as I was that he was dead, I didn't respect him less because it was suicide. I have trouble understanding what the big deal is when it comes to suicide. People act so shocked an appalled, and I just don't get it.

 

Yeah I agree. I personaly wouldn't kill myself but I and only I have that decision.

I've had a friends die of drugs, murder and suicide. I grieve them all the same.

[ParasiteGod]

Not necessarily. I lived 5 houses down from a man in Franklin Indiana about 3 years ago. Everyone that knew him said he was a great father, church going fella and very active with his kids. Then his wife left him. The day that he was due in court to settle the custody of his children, the freak shot his 1 year old and 3 year old daughters, then himself. A good parent gone bad. An extreme case of reversal of behavior. Some people just have a defective coping mechanism. You never know what someone is capable of until they break.

 

Yeah, and I understand that.

Maybe this was the wrong thread to be a sarcastic jackass. I dunno.

[Jhony5]

Yeah, and I understand that.

Maybe this was the wrong thread to be a sarcastic jackass. I dunno.

There is never a wrong thread to be a jackass.

[ParasiteGod]

There is never a wrong thread to be a jackass.

Unfortunately, there are such things as dumb questions.

[ToriAllen]

Suicide is treated differently because it is a conscious choice. People who commit suicide are looked at differently because they are selfish. Either they do not care how badly they hurt those they leave behind or they are trying to hurt them. Either way you look at it, it is selfish. Those you leave behind that love you, suffer with guilt for what they could have done to prevent it. The ones that you leave behind that probably drove you to it, aren