builder Posted December 23, 2006 Posted December 23, 2006 When wet sand is outlawed then only outlaws will have wet sand. Rep for that. What I want to see is a whistle system where thrown buckets of wet sand have to emit a whistling noise, so I can hear them coming. Quote Persevere, it pisses people off.
Phantom Posted December 23, 2006 Author Posted December 23, 2006 That is what I am getting at! I don't see a slap as that big of a deal. I am talking about trying to wreck someone's balls. Trying to break someone's nose. Trying to gouge out someone's eyes. Trying to cut someone. Trying to shoot someone. Trying to injure someone's throat. Anything past a lousy sting to the face or small bruise. (like one little punch...not that big a deal) I am talking about the intent to seriously injure or kill. If I didn't make that ckear then my apology. NOW do you get where I am coming from? True. That does happen. And guys who just hit their women to release anger are fucking idiots. No doubt. But once again, because I MUST say it over and over to get it through certain folk's heads is that I am referring to severe aggression with the intent to maim or kill. A punch to the arm or a slap to the face isn't that big a deal, though that alone is a cause of alarm. Yes, I understood you were one of the ones who believed a man should only hit a woman in self defense or in a life threatening situation. My comments were not directed towards you. So if she comes at dude with a knife she shouldn't be taken down or given a hint of some sort? (assuming talking to her doesn't work) I thought I had agreed with you earlier in one of my previous comments but I guess I never typed it since I couldn't find it while looking over my comments. Basically what you said earlier in the thread was perfect- defend ourselves but do not use excessive force and leave our opponent lying in a bloody, broken heap. lol Oh geez, stop...just STOP! YOU are the ones that think men are made of friggin' granite! "Men are so much stronger than women!" Anatomically and as far as lifting and punching someone, on average yes that is true. I had a feeling someone would mention this in reply to my comment. But I absolutely agree with you. Men feel pain and can be "taken down" as well. Once again because I have to repeat myself 20 damn times... WHEN YOU USE A WEAPON STRENGTH IS FUCKING NEGATED!!! I've already stated this several time in this thread. lol Quote Blah.
Outlaw2747 Posted December 24, 2006 Posted December 24, 2006 Yes, I understood you were one of the ones who believed a man should only hit a woman in self defense or in a life threatening situation. My comments were not directed towards you. I thought I had agreed with you earlier in one of my previous comments but I guess I never typed it since I couldn't find it while looking over my comments. Basically what you said earlier in the thread was perfect- defend ourselves but do not use excessive force and leave our opponent lying in a bloody, broken heap. lol I had a feeling someone would mention this in reply to my comment. But I absolutely agree with you. Men feel pain and can be "taken down" as well. I've already stated this several time in this thread. lol I am glad we came to some sort of an understanding here. Quote "I wish I was in Tijuana, eating barbecued iguana." - Wall of Voodoo http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fb910e0baa5b4e108ffee98f66cdb3cc.gif
jokersarewild Posted December 24, 2006 Posted December 24, 2006 I say "slap the bitch". What I do, however, is totally different. If she comes at me with a weapon (never been threatened with a gun...), I try to get it out of her hands. Punching her, or causing her physical harm, is justified if she does one thing: Kicks/punches/uses force to cause harm to my testicles. That shit doesn't fly. Quote RoyalOrleans is my real dad!
RoyalOrleans Posted December 25, 2006 Posted December 25, 2006 I say "slap the bitch". What I do, however, is totally different. If she comes at me with a weapon (never been threatened with a gun...), I try to get it out of her hands. Punching her, or causing her physical harm, is justified if she does one thing: Kicks/punches/uses force to cause harm to my testicles. That shit doesn't fly. Stabbing you would be like stabbing a pile of fresh dough. Quote To be the Man, you've got to beat the Man. - Ric Flair Everybody knows I'm known for dropping science.
hugo Posted December 25, 2006 Posted December 25, 2006 I say "slap the bitch". What I do, however, is totally different. If she comes at me with a weapon (never been threatened with a gun...), I try to get it out of her hands. Punching her, or causing her physical harm, is justified if she does one thing: Kicks/punches/uses force to cause harm to my testicles. That shit doesn't fly. How many times have you had a woman attack you? Quote The power to do good is also the power to do harm. - Milton Friedman "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison
THE BITCH Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 There is a term for that, that's called "Dumbass bitch." I'm sorry, if I see a man hit a woman, he's going down. Don't matter who he is, don't matter who she is (ok... I might be able to make exceptions for people like hilary clinton... but that's rare), he's going down. Those redneck ass women that jump on your ass for saving them are just stupid Or scared unless you have lived with domestic violence you really cannot comment on the woman defending the man not being funny but it is a lot worse for the woman when they get home if some guy has beat the crap out of the prick for hitting her she is then blamed for his assault because she shouldn't have made him hit her(not saying that she actualy did make him hit her just trying to show you the veiw point of the victim and why they are quick to jump in when somebody tries to help) the perp also looses face and takes it out on the vic. You also have to realise that the perp usualy takes away every last shred of self esteem the vic had so the vic feels obligated(sometimes even gratful) that the perp loves her enough to show emotion(be it good or bad) towards her. Domestic violence comes in many forms. The average victim usualy takes up to 50 beatings before breaking free. Quote
clarity Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 i dont think its right for a man to hit a woman in anger. i also think its wrong for a woman to hit a man in anger. violence in a relationship destroys not only the relationship but the people involved. the victim never recovers, it always stays there. Quote
clarity Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Or scared unless you have lived with domestic violence you really cannot comment on the woman defending the man not being funny but it is a lot worse for the woman when they get home if some guy has beat the crap out of the prick for hitting her she is then blamed for his assault because she shouldn't have made him hit her(not saying that she actualy did make him hit her just trying to show you the veiw point of the victim and why they are quick to jump in when somebody tries to help) the perp also looses face and takes it out on the vic. You also have to realise that the perp usualy takes away every last shred of self esteem the vic had so the vic feels obligated(sometimes even gratful) that the perp loves her enough to show emotion(be it good or bad) towards her. Domestic violence comes in many forms. The average victim usualy takes up to 50 beatings before breaking free. totally agree with that. althought the action might be done with good intentions, the majority of the time it only worsens the beatings and the situation as a whole. also, victims almost always believes its a temporary stage to begin with, then they are so wrapt up in it all, it becomes the norm and there is no way of breaking free. Quote
THE BITCH Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Catch22 you can't help yet you can't stand by and do nothing Quote
clarity Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 too true. just a few months ago i was at my friends house in quite a rough area, and we were coming out of a party at about 1am, and just accross the road there was a man slamming a girl against a fence shouting at her. i wanted to go over but my friend who lives there stopped me, she said that its common where she stays, you just cant get involved, you actually see the next day (on the girl) the results of ur attempt to 'help'. its awful. Quote
THE BITCH Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Been there you feel awful because you turned on the person who intervened along with the embaressment of it happening to you on the street. Seriously the best thing to do is carry on walking Quote
clarity Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 yeah it is, you still feel totally shit for doing it. sorry to hear you've been through it. xx Quote
clarity Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 glad uv came out stronger got alot of respect for you. Quote
snafu Posted January 4, 2007 Posted January 4, 2007 Catch22 you can't help yet you can't stand by and do nothing What? too true. just a few months ago i was at my friends house in quite a rough area, and we were coming out of a party at about 1am, and just accross the road there was a man slamming a girl against a fence shouting at her. i wanted to go over but my friend who lives there stopped me, she said that its common where she stays, you just cant get involved, you actually see the next day (on the girl) the results of ur attempt to 'help'. its awful. You people piss me off! You can't do anything? clarity you watched a girl getting abused and did nothing? There's always something you can do. Call the COPS! Shit! And you call me ignorant? It's not okay to hit someone. It's not the norm ANYWHERE! And what the hell were you doing parting at 1am @16 years old? We just had a girl raped that was under age, drunk at a party. Then the mothers boyfriend went over to confront the guy and was killed. He was killed but he had the balls to do something about it. Your over your head jamming around a place that beating a women is common! Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
Moko Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Men who hit women in the home because of some head space issues and or substance abuse need a bullet. Men ARE generally stronger than women but size and strength doesn't mean shit when you come up against training...small male or female...if you wanna find out what I mean, go find a muay thai gym and go up against a trained thai (nationality) kickboxer...or find a japanese female trained in ninjitsu or something. How much bearing does our societal structure have on our physical abilities?...men are trained by society to be aggressive and physical from the moment they take up the first physical contact sport. What if women were brought up the same way? Quote
clarity Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 What? You people piss me off! You can't do anything? clarity you watched a girl getting abused and did nothing? There's always something you can do. Call the COPS! Shit! And you call me ignorant? It's not okay to hit someone. It's not the norm ANYWHERE! And what the hell were you doing parting at 1am @16 years old? We just had a girl raped that was under age, drunk at a party. Then the mothers boyfriend went over to confront the guy and was killed. He was killed but he had the balls to do something about it. Your over your head jamming around a place that beating a women is common! calling the police in that area to report something like that gets ignored im embaressed to say. look i understand what your saying about the area and yeah i was hanging about up there, but tbh it doesnt bother me because a) i have family up near that area and b) my friend lives there - im not going to avoid my friends house just because its in an area thats rough. also, only in an ideal world is it not 'the norm' in some areas. it might be horrible and disgusting and foul - but its reality, yes it needs to be changed and no it doesnt make it right, but it is the norm in some areas. Quote
snafu Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 calling the police in that area to report something like that gets ignored im embaressed to say. look i understand what your saying about the area and yeah i was hanging about up there, but tbh it doesnt bother me because a) i have family up near that area and b) my friend lives there - im not going to avoid my friends house just because its in an area thats rough. also, only in an ideal world is it not 'the norm' in some areas. it might be horrible and disgusting and foul - but its reality, yes it needs to be changed and no it doesn't make it right, but it is the norm in some areas. Well your right in that it needs to be changed. That's why you call the cops. I can't believe nothing gets done. The cops still have to make a report. They still have to investigate. And when that girl is found dead, they just might have a clue as to who did it. If everybody turns their head everytime they see abuse it will continue. You can't stop something that never gets reported. I bet you'd be the kind of person that gives resestation by standing over the victium and yelling "Hay get up or your gonna die!" Quote "You can't stop insane people from doing insane things by passing insane laws. That's just insane!" Penn & Teller NEVER FORGOTTEN
clarity Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 Well your right in that it needs to be changed. That's why you call the cops. I can't believe nothing gets done. The cops still have to make a report. They still have to investigate. And when that girl is found dead, they just might have a clue as to who did it. If everybody turns their head everytime they see abuse it will continue. You can't stop something that never gets reported. thats true, but seriously - ur not getting it - in that area these things are ignored. police are understaffed, people dont want to work there. those kind of calls are put to the back of the queue, if they ever do get listened to. plus, maybe read about what the 'bitch' said about it all, sometimes ignoring it - in some situations - is the best option. look, i do totally understand ur aggravation and anger due to my lack of action to stop this situation worsening and help the girl, but i did what i did at the time and looking back on it yes i do wish i had either went over there or called the police or something - but thats what happened that night and i cant change it. Quote
THE BITCH Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 what good would the police have done? They would have turned up the vic would have denied it was her partner refused to press charges and they would have left vic and perp would have made up and so goes the cycle. The only people who can stop domestic violence are the perp and the vic Clarity did the best thing she could for the vic by walking away. Quote
Vortex Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 sorry to come late on this topic...but i may have a slightly different perspective on this subject.....or maybe not...but here goes (some of this is repeat since im late in the convo) Ive never been in a fight period....verbal yes...physical no... I tend to be FAR more verbal about what pisses me off on here than i am in real life.....in real life i dont want to get hit...so i tend to reserve myself and pick my battles...........i try to keep the physical violence as far from me as possilbe.. I would never hit anyone first...EVER...its just me. I think physical violence is a total mockery to our entire race......We have the most advanced brains on the planet yet we dont portray it. If someone, ANYONE, hits me for any reason you had better believe that i will defend myself. I dont care what gender they are.....Children, another story...they are young and dont know any better... but some dumb bitch thinks that its okay to start wailing on me for ANY reason (possibly because they dont feel they can win a verbal match) then best believe i am going to defend myself.....reserved of course (hair pulling, pushing to the ground...a good bitch slap).... Just because I am 6'2" and male doesnt mean im physically capable of taking on any woman in a physical fight.......how am i supposed to know that she isnt a cage fighter from out of town? Or some trailer park skank who thrives on it?!?! I havent worked out in over 5 years.....my muscle mass is, pretty much, gone....AND i have never been in a fight in my life. If some ignorant woman decides to get in my face because im gay and cant handle anything i say to defend myself and starts attacking....my first thought will be instinct...pure and simple. There will be no restraining there will be "get the bitch away from me" in any way shape or form....i cant honestly say what I would do...but if she comes for me.....then she deserves everything that happens....and guess what, she may be able to take me....its a VERY good chance... Im gonna have to go with the double standard crap...because if you defend yourself just to get away a male will get in just as much trouble as if they started it and it is TOTAL bull!!!!!!! I just have a hard time understanding how a female could even condone another females actions when they act that way.....If she whats to go psycho there is no defending that action other than she probably deserves whats comming to her... THE ONLY time i can see that being justified is if the guy has abused her before and she finally got the courage to give it right back.... Physical violence is the lowest form of communication...and should be dealt with accordingly.......If you start it dont whine about what comes back at you....if you cant sort it out with words...walk away period (no i didnt get mine yet...i think im late) ps i stopped watching that video because i have a feeling that the dude who was being chased by the larger lady in the black dress probably said some rude comment that wasnt called for...and in that case...he probably deserved it.... It just goes to show you....common courtesy and respect for others has simply been thrown in the garbage....its a total shame... Quote -I don't know about you...but I am SICK and tired of being nice and understanding!!! -The Liver is evil and must be punished! -The Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. How can your opinion be the correct one....if, infact, its only an opinion?!?!
clarity Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 ok i got a bad rep for the last comment i made here ... why? 1 Quote
Mack the Knife Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 ok i got a bad rep for the last comment i made here ... why?Why not???????????????? Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/f0f5ca4439cc64cb06447f054d1c972d.gif Don't like my sig? Click on it to make a new one!
eddo Posted January 5, 2007 Posted January 5, 2007 ...vic ... vic and perp ... ...perp and the vic ... vic somebody watches to many police dramas on cable... Quote I'm trusted by more women.
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