Which Religion do you belong to?

[builder]

I'm a nihilist.

And before anyone has to ask

 

 

My mother is Mormon. You can imagine how pissed off at me she gets.

 

Now I had you pegged as a solopsist.

[Phantom]

I've been questioning my belief system since I could think for myself. Try it sometime.

 

Oh Darling, if anyone has questioned their own religion it would be me. Researched it for years. Studied apologetics. Collected skeptic arguments and claims in order to review their validity or debunk them. Religion is my passion and the most serious subject one could ever become interested in. Everything else is temporary. If there is a God or a life after this one, it would be in everyone's best interest to get as close to the facts as they can.

 

The only issue with blind faith that is in question is; what if I'm not blind?

 

I'm not blind and neither is my faith. I like facts and evidence. Like I have said numerous times on here, I didn't become a Christian because my mommy and daddy told me so. I became a Christian after a lot of thought and weighing the evidence for myself.

 

How the fuck can one entity monitor the actions and reactions of a hundred billion blind followers?

 

The Catholic church leaders are bogus. Please don't even compare the regular Christian to them.

 

Jesus never preached the crapola being force-fed to the various cults in existence today. He spoke of servitude to those less fortunate. He spoke of letting go of material possessions, and the cleanliness of living without chattels and money and greed. He spoke of opening your heart and mind to those amongst us who lack the basics of understanding and knowledge.

 

But most of all, he spoke of wanting nothing but purity of mind and spirit. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

 

Exactly. And let me tell you this, true Christians who are loyal to the Bible do not bother with all the man-made dogma later incorporated into Christianity/Catholicism.

 

So what have the charlatans done to his words and life's work? '

 

They've made a harlot of his words. That's what.

 

Dress the priests up in robes of purple velvet, hang effigies of the christ and Mary on the walls of the halls of worship (against the bible's direction). Make everyone feel guilty for living life as a human, to the point of having to confess to some brainwashed future paedophile behind a screen in a closed booth.

 

You're preaching to the choir. Protestants have been speaking out against the corruption and dogma of the Catholic church for centuries. Jesus came to release the people from religious rites and bondage. The Catholic church forgets that by creating more and more. Confession? Indulgences? Purgatory? This is all wrong according to the New Testament.

 

Now tell me why it does not suck the big one, Phantom.

 

Organized religion that perverts the original Word of God does suck the big one. I'm referring to the few and the faithful. Statistics say there are about 1 billion Christians world wide. I cannot possibly believe this if we are to follow the definitions as told in the New Testament. The true Christians who hold a personal relationship with God are disgusted with what the church has become.

[Phantom]

But no way in the world am I gonna feel guilt for anything I ever do. Fuck that shit.

 

Guilt is a natural human emotion that is not necessarily tied into one's religious beliefs. I would be highly suspicious of people who never felt guilt. That would show me they are a highly selfish individual who cares nothing for the effects their actions or behavior have on others.

 

If you missed your son's birthday because you forgot, would you feel guilty? If you had a long term relationship with a woman but ended up breaking it off when she was still very much in love with you and had never done anything wrong, would you feel guilty? I would only hope so. If not, then you are a sociopath.

 

Guilt and religion are not mutually exclusive. It would be the same as saying only religious people have morals or only religious people know the difference between right and wrong. Guilt, regret, morals, and knowing right from wrong are naturally occurring human emotions. One's religious preference, or lack of one, should not be a factor.

 

Although religion might have some ability to trigger guilt (like doing something the Bible tells us is a sin, for example), even atheists can feel guilt if they do something that is wrong by common knowledge- like murder. Unless, like I said before, they are a selfish sociopath.

 

But not one of those fuckers stood up to the tyrants who wanted to martyr him. Not fucking one. Fucking losers had a chance, but chose to remain at the bottom of the pecking order.

 

Nothing has changed since then.

 

I strongly disagree. Even the Bible and early church historians make note of the fact many distanced themselves after Jesus' arrest but later became martyrs after the resurrection. Although it is not a widely talked about fact, Christians are still widely persecuted and put to death all over the world.

[Anna Perenna]

In short-story form, I believe I am god. And so are you ......

 

So true.

 

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[builder]

So true.

 

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This might lead to a few head-butting comps, but eventually god will surface.

 

[builder]

Oh Darling, if anyone has questioned their own religion it would be me.

 

Yeah, Slovakian christians are a rarity.

 

Researched it for years. Studied apologetics.

 

That's a handy trick. Learning how to apologise.

 

Collected skeptic arguments and claims in order to review their validity or debunk them.

 

Sounds like a fixation. Interesting.

 

Religion is my passion and the most serious subject one could ever become interested in.

 

You're missing out on life, by the sound of that statement. Loosen up, Lady.

 

Everything else is temporary.

 

 

Everything else is reality. Learn to adjust to it.

 

If there is a God or a life after this one, it would be in everyone's best interest to get as close to the facts as they can.

 

You're laying baits. If there was..... What kind of believer are you, Phantom?

 

 

I'm not blind and neither is my faith

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A dead guy made some hell speeches over two thousand years ago, and you want to dissect those words here? Cool

 

I like facts and evidence. Like I have said numerous times on here,

 

 

That's great Phantom. Toss some facts and evidence out there for us lowly plebs to peruse. Please.

 

I didn't become a Christian because my mommy and daddy told me so

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It was that nine inch dick on the choir boy, wasn't it?

 

But honestly, what turned you into a christian, phanny?

 

I became a Christian after a lot of thought and weighing the evidence for myself.

 

The Catholic church leaders are bogus. Please don't even compare the regular Christian to them.

 

The drama is, they are the turkeys that portray religion to the masses. It is not a good selling point.

 

 

Exactly. And let me tell you this, true Christians who are loyal to the Bible do not bother with all the man-made dogma later incorporated into Christianity/Catholicism.

 

You don't bother with man-made dogma then you don't read the bible.

 

You're preaching to the choir.

 

I'm singing to the birds.

 

Protestants have been speaking out against the corruption and dogma of the Catholic church for centuries.

 

So they fucking should. But the lemons don't cowtow to the masses.

 

Jesus came to release the people from religious rites and bondage.

 

 

Jesus grew up like me and you, and saw a basic injustice in the treatment of human beings. He died because the narcissistic overlords ruled the roost.

 

The Catholic church forgets that by creating more and more. Confession? Indulgences? Purgatory? This is all wrong according to the New Testament.

 

There is nothing right about the catholic church in America. The Blues Brothers were all over it. The mafia fund it..

 

Organized religion that perverts the original Word of God does suck the big one. I'm referring to the few and the faithful. Statistics say there are about 1 billion Christians world wide.

 

I'm not one of them.

 

I cannot possibly believe this if we are to follow the definitions as told in the New Testament. The true Christians who hold a personal relationship with God are disgusted with what the church has become.

 

True christians are about as common as hen's teeth.

[Phantom]

I'm sorry, were you trying to debate me? Just asking because I see nothing but quit-witted one-liners with no actual substance.

[Anna Perenna]

This might lead to a few head-butting comps, but eventually god will surface.

 

 

There is no Anna, or God. There is only Zuul.

 

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[Phantom]

There is no Anna, or God. There is only Zuul.

 

LMFAO!! I used to say this ALL the time! "There is no Dana. Only Zuul," whenever my parents would tell me to do something. I never claimed to be a normal child.

[cynthiaa89]

I prefer to not talk about religion...Too much drama, too many strong opinions. Plus, I believe a bit of everything. There's not one religion that makes much more sense to me than another one.

[Anna Perenna]

There is no Anna, or God. There is only Zuul.

 

LMFAO!! I used to say this ALL the time! "There is no Dana. Only Zuul," whenever my parents would tell me to do something. I never claimed to be a normal child.

 

That's awesome! Yet another reason to like you, Phantom.

[dshogan1]

I place myself in the Wiccan/Pagan catagory because as somebody else stated, its the only one that teaches personal responsibility. I was brought up a christian, went to church all the way up untill i was in 10th grade. I went to a catholic high school untill 10th grade. I attended a Christian College because my uncle is a minister and got me in with cheap tuition. So i Made the best of it and took all the religion courses i could to learn more about religions. After all that, the only religion that seems to make sense is Wicca.

[builder]

I place myself in the Wiccan/Pagan catagory because as somebody else stated, its the only one that teaches personal responsibility.

 

I'm struggling with that statement. Personal responsibility for what exactly?

 

I was brought up a christian, went to church all the way up untill i was in 10th grade.

 

So there's still hope for you. We won't give up just yet.

 

I went to a catholic high school untill 10th grade.

 

Now you led me astray with your last statement. This ploy is not uncommon with the catholic belief system. There's still hope of a full recovery, however remote the chances are.

 

I attended a Christian College because my uncle is a minister and got me in with cheap tuition.

 

Okay. Thousands wouldn't, but I'll believe you.

 

So i Made the best of it and took all the religion courses i could to learn more about religions.

 

So share your knowledge. It's only fair.

 

After all that, the only religion that seems to make sense is Wicca.

 

MmmmKay. Bitches chanting in the nude works for me too.

[Anna Perenna]

I'm struggling with that statement. Personal responsibility for what exactly?

 

I think he's referring to the Catholic practice of confessing your sins, and being immediately forgiven (after saying the rosary, or similar).

 

As for this whole poll: The majority of people on this forum are Christian. No surprises there.

 

However, the more I read about Copernicus, and Newton, and even Hawking, the more I am starting to think I am probably going to start referring to myself as somewhat of a Deist.

 

Because if (in very general terms) most scientific evidence suggests that the universe is constantly expanding, therefore suggesting a starting point of nil matter (ie, the fundamental constant of the big bang theory) then it's not far fetched to suggest that something (or someone) must have created that starting point.

 

But how are we ever going to know? The Bible and the Quran and other religious tomes offer me no solid evidence or even feasible explanations to work with.

 

Therefore, when I say I am agnostic, my personal definition for that term is "unsure and confused". What's even more frustrating, though, is that I know already that no matter how much I read up on the subject, I'm still not going to come to a satisfactory conclusion.

 

So I should probably follow Cynthia's lead and stop thinking about it. And with that, stop babbling on about it.

 

Peace out.