YAY!!Lets Kill Animals!!YAY

[Rusu_luvs_LP_4ever]

Find someone who will...

Let people rub shampoo in thier eyes

take doses of cancer so doctors can test cures

get infected with AIDS so doctors can try new medication

allow themselves to be exposed to radiation

Basically, my question is, what the heck do we test this stuff on? Ourselves? Yeah right. In two seconds, human rights activists would be all over it. All over it, just like stem cell research. So they use animals, which is definitly safer from not only a legal perspective but a humane one.

Ever heard of Joseph Mengele? That is what happens when they test this stuff out on people man. It is torture, it is inhuman, and most of the time it will probably have very negative results.

Animal testing is the lesser of two evils. Sorry, but its true.

 

I'd volunteer but they'd never take me cos I'm human

[LPGotLinkinPark]

If people volunteer to be tested on, how is inhuman? It's just like those other scientific studies, just more deadly.

[Clogz]

Really? That is great! I've been wanting to test this new hair dye out on someone. It will be all the rage if it works! Could you tell me where you live, so I can come and have you try it in a controlled setting.

Oh yes, and I apoligize if it goes wrong and it eats holes in your scalp or if your hair falls out, or it gives you some kind of cancer that causes you to go blind, or gives you early Alzhiemers, but hey! What can you do? We have to save the animals from pain, don't we?

Hurt people, not animals! Especially if the people say okay!

**to avoid misunderstanding, this post is incredibly sarcastic and I'm making a point.

[LPGotLinkinPark]

I would never volunteer but some people like to for the sake of science.

[azemkamikaze03]

Really? That is great! I've been wanting to test this new hair dye out on someone. It will be all the rage if it works! Could you tell me where you live, so I can come and have you try it in a controlled setting.

Oh yes, and I apoligize if it goes wrong and it eats holes in your scalp or if your hair falls out, or it gives you some kind of cancer that causes you to go blind, or gives you early Alzhiemers, but hey! What can you do? We have to save the animals from pain, don't we?

Hurt people, not animals! Especially if the people say okay!

**to avoid misunderstanding, this post is incredibly sarcastic and I'm making a point.

 

That is true. I would rather hurt a animal. It is survival of the fittest(or the smartest). But now we have more, computerized ways to solve these problems. There are programs that can tell you about enzymes and other crap like that. I guess im bending my opion but I think animals are needed to test some things. but some of the crap they do to animals is unnessary and usually thoes animals die for a lost cuase. Plus when animals are introduced to stressful behavior(which happens when your locked up in some strang place with your brains oozing out) Results will be diffrent..like on the Movie Saw Dr.Gordon was calmn and wise thinking but when he thought his wife was going to die, he sawed of his leg. I guess you could say kind of the same of thing.

[ImTheOneThatFalls]

That is true. I would rather hurt a animal. It is survival of the fittest(or the smartest). But now we have more' date=' computerized ways to solve these problems. There are programs that can tell you about enzymes and other crap like that. I guess im bending my opion but I think animals are needed to test some things. but some of the crap they do to animals is unnessary and usually thoes animals die for a lost cuase. Plus when animals are introduced to stressful behavior(which happens when your locked up in some strang place with your brains oozing out) Results will be diffrent..like on the Movie Saw Dr.Gordon was calmn and wise thinking but when he thought his wife was going to die, he sawed of his leg. I guess you could say kind of the same of thing.[/quote']

ugh poor animals

[Clogz]

A computer analyzing the situation from Saw would not have predicted Dr. Gordon sawing his leg off. In the same way, computers are flawed in the fact they are completely linear. The last thing I want to do is try anything a computer told me was safe. Computers, metaphorically, see 2-D in a 3-D world, and I don't think that is an accurate way to look at anything.

[azemkamikaze03]

Niiiiiiiiiiiice copy and paste job!

 

There is absolutely NO way you wrote that yourself.

 

 

Uhh im making a speech for english! I stole some of the ideas yeah but basically its all my words. Just not all my ideas kid. Hey weez..arent you the guy that nobody really likes..specialy woody?

[Clogz]

Another thought -

If animal testing did not exist, we would most definitly not have chemotherpay, which has saved God knows how many lives from cancer. I mean, who would have volunteered to have radiation shot into thier bodies? Not me.

[azemkamikaze03]

"Computer Clues

 

A more high-tech approach is to use computers to simulate an enzyme or other drug target and to design chemical structures that might work against it. Enzymes work when they attach to the correct site on a cell's membrane. A computer can show scientists what the receptor site looks like and how one might tailor a compound to block an enzyme from attaching there.

 

Nevertheless, "computers give chemists clues to which compounds to make, but they don't give any final answers,'' says Kuntzman. "You still have to put any compound you made based on a computer [simulation] into a biological system to see if it works."

 

Yet a third approach involves testing compounds made naturally by microscopic organisms. Candidates include fungi, viruses and molds, such as those that led to penicillin and other antibiotics. Scientists grow the microorganisms in what they call a fermentation broth, one type of organism per broth. Sometimes 100,000 or more broths are tested to see whether any compound made by a microorganism has a desirable effect.

 

"In the search for a new cholesterol drug, scientists found a fungus that inhibited the HMG-CoA reductase enzyme in a test tube. Chemists then had to identify which of the fungus' dozens of chemical byproducts was actually inhibiting the enzyme. Once that was done, the chemical's structure was analyzed and improved on to enhance its effects.

 

To this point, the search for a new drug has been confined to a laboratory test tube. Next, scientists have to test those compounds that have shown at least some desired effects in living animals. ''We have to find what the drug is doing on the down side,"

Kuntzman explains. "

 

http://www.fda.gov/fdac/special/newdrug/begin.html

[azemkamikaze03]

but i totally agree w/ you Clogz on the chemo thang

[Clogz]

Um, that a whole thing basically proved that while computers help, they are still simply a technicality and a luxury. The real testing went on with the animals, they just decided to cut some of it short with computers. Testing the animals is still totally necessary.

Computers are machines, and thus they can't be accurate measure for taking over animal testing.

[azemkamikaze03]

Yeah I know I just found it

[linkinpark-1]

I'm fine with testing on lab rats and stuff, I'm not so much for monkeys or animal with much intellegence. They have to test it on something that would have the same affect as it would on a person, and of course you couldn't test a real person. As long as im the one not doing the dirty work, i guess im ok with it.

[ImTheOneThatFalls]

i've had a really really really bad expierence with monkeys so i dont give a shit about them lol

[weeztones]

Uhh im making a speech for english! I stole some of the ideas yeah but basically its all my words. Just not all my ideas kid. Hey weez..arent you the guy that nobody really likes..specialy woody?

 

 

I'm glad you feel these are your words. Tell me, how much did http://www.curedisease.com/Altern1.html pay you for stealing your shit? I sure hope some royalty checks are in the mail, 'cause obviously the writers at Americans for Medical Advancement feel that your thoughts are so well founded, that they stole them from LPF and posted them on their website all within a matter of seconds of the time you posted "your" words.

 

Explain to us how this scenario makes you feel! I mean, some internet site that's been around for God knows how long, wrote "your" words BEFORE you said them!!!!! It's almost unbelievable.

 

 

And now for the main point: Don't fucking lie, you liar! You wanna know how I immediately knew that shit you spewed didnt come from your mouth? It was intelligent, concise writing. Something you can't do and have never done on this website, EVER! Do you really think some person is going to go from barely being able to use proper sentence structure into William Faulkner for one post?

 

Oh and aren't you the guy that I've never heard of before because you don't exist to me, except for being my new "go-to" guy when I need some real fine plagiarism? Yeah, I think you are.

[misery]

I'm glad you feel these are your words. Tell me, how much did http://www.curedisease.com/Altern1.html pay you for stealing your shit? I sure hope some royalty checks are in the mail, 'cause obviously the writers at Americans for Medical Advancement feel that your thoughts are so well founded, that they stole them from LPF and posted them on their website all within a matter of seconds of the time you posted "your" words.

 

Explain to us how this scenario makes you feel! I mean, some internet site that's been around for God knows how long, wrote "your" words BEFORE you said them!!!!! It's almost unbelievable.

 

 

And now for the main point: Don't fucking lie, you liar! You wanna know how I immediately knew that shit you spewed didnt come from your mouth? It was intelligent, concise writing. Something you can't do and have never done on this website, EVER! Do you really think some person is going to go from barely being able to use proper sentence structure into William Faulkner for one post?

 

Oh and aren't you the guy that I've never heard of before because you don't exist to me, except for being my new "go-to" guy when I need some real fine plagiarism? Yeah, I think you are.

oh snap!

some mean but intelligent points

nd weeztones is cool

[Clogz]

I'm glad you feel these are your words. Tell me, how much did http://www.curedisease.com/Altern1.html pay you for stealing your shit? I sure hope some royalty checks are in the mail, 'cause obviously the writers at Americans for Medical Advancement feel that your thoughts are so well founded, that they stole them from LPF and posted them on their website all within a matter of seconds of the time you posted "your" words.

 

Explain to us how this scenario makes you feel! I mean, some internet site that's been around for God knows how long, wrote "your" words BEFORE you said them!!!!! It's almost unbelievable.

 

 

And now for the main point: Don't fucking lie, you liar! You wanna know how I immediately knew that shit you spewed didnt come from your mouth? It was intelligent, concise writing. Something you can't do and have never done on this website, EVER! Do you really think some person is going to go from barely being able to use proper sentence structure into William Faulkner for one post?

 

Oh and aren't you the guy that I've never heard of before because you don't exist to me, except for being my new "go-to" guy when I need some real fine plagiarism? Yeah, I think you are.

 

ROFL.

Weeztones, you seriously crack me up dude. :thumbsup:

[SNiPeRViRuS]

And actually he has a point this time. I wont say shit because last time he started crying and left. And then got his ass banned. Azem bro, that was low man. But you are forgiven.

[woodyloveslinkin]

why couldn't u stick george bush in a rats cage and test poisonous additives on him?

it works with me just fine thank you very much.

[weeztones]

And actually he has a point this time. I wont say shit because last time he started crying and left. And then got his ass banned. Azem bro' date=' that was low man. But you are forgiven.[/quote']

 

You have absolutely no fucking clue what you are talking about. Not even close! I got banned and re-instated by Chris' own doing. I seem to have just brushed up on a thread discussing a recent banning(yours) in which the banee(you) not only cried when LPF was taken from you, but also managed to crawl vehemetly on your knees upon every single one of the mod's dicks in order for your re-instatement. It was sad to watch you blow the authority around here, it really was.

 

As far as my absence. It wasnt due to this place whatsoever. I have what some people call, other things, like school for instance.

[misery]

id have to say weeztones makes some very valid points

[woodyloveslinkin]

Can We Stop The Damn Flames??

[Rusu_luvs_LP_4ever]

Look, I have posted my opinion in another thread about the same topic. I don't give a shit what you think clogz, coz that's ur opinion, just don't diss mine. That show's no respect at all.

[Minzara]

such kind words in this thread....... animal testing is cruel... but what can u do....