The Downfall of LPF *Everyone Please Read*

[stupidsoul1]

they are only good points because of how truthful they are.

 

.....as you can see this is getting no where.....can we just get over it already....i dont want to force myself to leave and i dont want anymore people to go because you people want to be heard....

 

you wrote

we read

you gave feed back

now...this is the part where...

we get over it

 

and dont tell me i want to run away from this problem....because i just like everyone here doesnt...but can you see anyone going anywhere from this??

 

breathe people breathe......

[SNiPeRViRuS]

That was actually a very wise post. Sadly, life doesnt work as easy as that. Especailly when you put egos and pride on the line. We already have gotten over it, I just want to annoy the living fuck out of the mods without breaking rules because, even though its over, and we are working to make this place good agian, I still blame them 95%.

[SNiPeRViRuS]

everyone is making such good points..... sigh...

 

 

I always make good points. Thats why I argue.

[ATLien]

That was actually a very wise post. Sadly' date=' life doesnt work as easy as that. Especailly when you put egos and pride on the line. We already have gotten over it, I just want to annoy the living fuck out of the mods without breaking rules because, even though its over, and we are working to make this place good agian, I still blame them 95%.[/quote']

 

95% WOW I feel loved. SV send me a PM with your issues against the mods individually and I will see how I can improve our mod group!!

[link]

You cannot make people respect each other.

we can at least try

[uwantme2b]

I personally think it's a shame that we feel like we ought to... people should respect each other automatically, even those they don't personally like. It's not someone's fault if you don't like them.

[stupidsoul1]

LOL agreed...its not that we are not respecting eachother....even during the biggest fights ever usually the people involved admire the opposition greatly and come out friends,but its just all thats left behind that still continues to agree to disagree..

[Clogz]

No its insulting the greatness that is me that starts fights. Only a real dumbass would do that.

 

This stupid egotism is one of the reasons you get in so much trouble in the first place. I'm sorry, but I think Hybrid Soldier is right in the fact that, you seem to just want to fight and do nothing else.

[Clogz]

LOL agreed...its not that we are not respecting eachother....even during the biggest fights ever usually the people involved admire the opposition greatly and come out friends' date='but its just all thats left behind that still continues to agree to disagree..[/quote']

 

As a praticipant in all these fights that are destroying the site, and can tell you straightforwardly that this is simply not true. I really wish it was, but it isn't.

[Clogz]

I personally think it's a shame that we feel like we ought to... people should respect each other automatically' date=' even those they don't personally like. It's not someone's fault if you don't like them.[/quote']

 

This is what ShinodaBear is trying to say, right here. I think it is great that a newbie understands this concept, and it is the last time I'll refer to you as a newbie...you don't deserve the 'title'.

I know triple posting is spam, and I apoligize.

[SNiPeRViRuS]

95% WOW I feel loved. SV send me a PM with your issues against the mods individually and I will see how I can improve our mod group!!

 

I will. Now right now, I need to go soon. I dont have a problem with you, just with the mods. Well maybe your sig, but thats it.

[SNiPeRViRuS]

This stupid egotism is one of the reasons you get in so much trouble in the first place. I'm sorry' date=' but I think Hybrid Soldier is right in the fact that, you seem to just want to fight and do nothing else.[/quote']

 

 

I dont get into trouble. I dont consider this trouble. I consider this reformation. We are reforming. This is like elections to me. Hybrid called me a dumbass, when I make some of the most well thought out posts here. Everything I say, I can back up. Most people here goddamned spam forever. If he thinks that I should not be aggresive because of that, he is dumb. Not to mention that, here he comes, out of nowhere, after a long absense, and then starts insulting me. He has no clue whats going on. And, if he cares so much about the site, he should not be trying to start anything with me. If he is smart enough to be an elite after coming back so soon, he should no that saying stuff about me is not the way to prevent me from arguing.

[LPGotLinkinPark]

Alrighty. Well, if you feel there could be better, there could always be worse as well.

 

I'm trying to understand exactly what you mean. (now dont get me wrong, i'm asking you in a normal tone). You blame us for not being strict enough and enforcing the rules, but then when we do enforce the rules, you protest. So, exactly how do we enforce the rules, when you cant handle the fact that we do our job? I honestly do not understand.

 

Since most of this has blamed the mods (and I partly do to) I will tell you why there was a "protest" when you "enforced" the rules.

 

You guys never enforce rules about spamming. Some posts are so bad, that I have to either sit there and think about it for a while, or just ask the person what they meant. Now, if I can't hardly understand what they mean because of their typing/gramer skills, I consider that spam. Aparently, to you, it's ok for that to go on. Then sniper gets temporaroly banned. This is the question you were asking about. I actually read his post before you quickly editted it. Did you, Shinoda Bear, read it before you decided it was bad? I'm not quite convince you did. I read it. There was nothing offensive about it. All he did was state what he though about it, and reason why he felt that way. (They were very good reasons if you ask me) Then you ban him, simply because he has a different opinion. So, that basicly answers your question of what we mean by actually enforcing the laws that matter and why "protest" when you "did enforce" the laws.

 

Now, don't get me wrong. Most of you guys are great members, but the modding has to get done. You say there are reasons why you don't post a lot, that's ok, but at least be around. There are n00bs that around waaay more that you are. You reason (that I read) that you don't post a lot is because you want to set an example of not posting to everything. Well, I have more posts that you, and I don't post in everything. Now, you may say that I spam, which I try not to (and I know most of my posts aren't). So, I don't see your point. Even if you were "setting and example" on not to post too much, you are still hardly around.

 

Last, I'm sorry if I've offended you or any other mods. I don't want you to feel that way. I'm just trying to help solve the problem by helping you see what is wrong. :thumbsup:

[ShinodaBear]

[LP]GotLinkinPark.

Don't worry. I see what you're trying to say. Thanks for explaining it to me better. I honestly didnt see what Sniper meant off the bat.

To answer your question about Sniper and making a quick decision. I didnt just randomly do it right away. In fact, there is a thread in the mod's corner talking about it. And even after the mods had replied in there, i took the time to IM ATLien and ask him about it too. I asked him to take a look and even I got approval from him to ban SV. So, to answer your question, yes i didnt read up before i took action. Yes, i didnt consult other authorities on this board. And no, i didnt just randomly ban him right away.

 

With the enforcing the rules before and not before, you're pretty much right on it. I guess the reason i didnt start cracking down is because there wasn't as many fights before, so when spam and flamewars broke out, i really thought it coulda been handle by themselves, hence why i didnt think action was needed. So, i just had to suddenly start. SV was probably just bad timing when i did.

 

And about being on this board. Like i said, i dont post much, but i am on the boards quite alot... invisible or not. I am here. But if i must prove to you guys that i am here, i will post alot more. I honestly dont think i need to prove anything to you guys, but i care about the site to just suck it up and do it. So i'll be posting more.

[SNiPeRViRuS]

Ok. So now everyone has to talk about me do they. Lets use SNiPeRViRuS as an example for the rules we arent capable of enforcing. Just because he can defend his views and is a threat to our "god-like" status.

 

Im getting sick of you guys.

[angelwithburntwings]

Look guys, we know what has to be done, cut down on the fighting, flaming and spamming... So why don't we leave this thread and get to it? Cos this argument has gone on long enough...When SB posted this, we knew it was happening, but no-one did anything about it, and no offence SB, but this thread has so far caused more problems than it's solved, what with people leaving and people getting down and pissed off about it. We know what's wrong, lets get on and sort it!

[SNiPeRViRuS]

We know thats not the only mistake SB has made.

[angelwithburntwings]

Ok, he banned you, I didn't see the post you made that got you banned. And I haven't been here that long lol. All I know is that we need to get to dealing with the problems, not talking about them, all we have to do it think before we post.... it's not that hard, is it?

[woodyloveslinkin]

now can we start singing? kiss and make up?

[Hybrid Soldier]

Woody and Sniper seem to simply hate this place, so I would suggest either them quitting or the mods fuullfilling there want and banning them.

[Mike Shinodas Gurl]

Woody and Sniper seem to simply hate this place' date=' so I would suggest either them quitting or the mods fuullfilling there want and banning them.[/quote']

 

 

I wouldn't ban them. That would just make this place worse and get me pissed off and then I'll really leave.

[lpp]

Woody and Sniper seem to simply hate this place' date=' so I would suggest either them quitting or the mods fuullfilling there want and banning them.[/quote']

 

okay first off sorry SNIPER

 

but SNIPER is not sick of the member but the mods.

and second of all why must SNIPER be brought into this.

so yes i am on SNIPERS side right now....

 

but can't this just be over with

[Mike Shinodas Gurl]

okay first off sorry SNIPER

 

but SNIPER is not sick of the member but the mods.

and second of all why must SNIPER be brought into this.

so yes i am on SNIPERS side right now....

 

but can't this just be over with

 

 

Exactly.

I don't see why we have to argue right now when where TRYING to make this a better place. Instead were just making it worse by arguing! PLEASE people.Stop this nonsense and make lpf a better place. I know for sure that Azem isn't going to come back because he told me but maybe we'll get all the other members that left to come back if we make this a better place. SO PLEASE, get together and try to make this a great place to be!

 

~Mike Shinoda's Gurl~

[SNiPeRViRuS]

Thankyou two. Esp MSG. You are finally typing like a sane human!

 

I dont want to be banned. It would be a stupid thing to do to me.

 

Why dont you take some time, re-read what I have posted, and then try and make sense out of it. I have every intention of making this place good. I just want to have things crystal clear and I want to make sure there is no more beef between me and the mods who I dont think are responsible.

[Mike Shinodas Gurl]

Lol, but ya banning, Sniper would be very stupid. Well I think so,anyways sugesting people who we should ban and all this crap is not helping out lpf.What we mean by helping out is no arguing and fighting.Things like that not Oh We Should ban MSG or some other person.That's what will probably help.

 

~Mike Shinoda's Gurl~