o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Here's a really decent and longish article on Fort minor with Mike Shinoda! He talks into detail about a couple of songs on the album. It's a good read: "After 12 years of studying piano, Linkin Park's Mike Shinoda could play classical compositions with his eyes closed. Finding someone to listen was the hard part. "Maybe it was just my group of friends, but you play them some Bach and they're like, 'That's boring,' " he recalls. "But you play them a Dr. Dre loop and they're like, 'Oh sh--! He can play the Dre loop!' You play 'Deep Cover' and all of a sudden it's a big deal. That realization essentially led Shinoda to the seat he's sitting in this morning, behind the mixing desk at quiet NRG Studios in North Hollywood, sipping Starbucks as he previews the tracks from The Rising Tied, the first album by his hip-hop side project, Fort Minor. "In high school I was making beats for my friends and for myself and rapping over them," he explains. "As I was finishing college, Linkin Park started taking off, so since then I hadn't really gotten a chance to get back to this and do it. "I just started screwing around with beats, doing straight-up hip-hop songs again just for fun. And the more I played them for people, the more they told me, 'Let me get on this song' or 'You gotta put this song out,' or both." Obviously, Shinoda's running with a different crowd these days: One of those listeners just happens to be the most powerful man in hip-hop — Jay-Z — who executive-produced the album and helped Shinoda narrow down more than 50 tracks to 14. "If he tells me a verse is really dope," Shinoda says, "then you'd better believe I'm not gonna change it!" Although several guests — including Common and John Legend — make vocal contributions, The Rising Tied is an intensely personal project. "It deals with a lot of things that obviously I can't deal with on a Linkin Park record [because] I've got five other guys that I have to represent," he says. He even made a self-imposed rule that he would write and play every note of music, making exceptions only to add strings, choir and some percussion parts. "I've got 100 [programmed] tambourine sounds, but for this album I went down to the store, bought a couple tambourines and sat there and played them," he says. "On some songs, I didn't even sequence things, meaning I didn't put them perfectly on beat: I'd sample them and play them by hand on a keyboard, so that it had that feeling of a person actually sitting there playing it. "It's a hip-hop record, but it's more about songwriting." And with that, Shinoda took another sip of his coffee, and then took us on a guided tour through the album. "Cigarettes" "This is Jay's favorite track on the record. We're talking about hip-hop and where it is today. I asked Jay, 'Do you think it's weird that I'm making a commentary on hip-hop because some people see me as this guy in a rock band?' And his response was, nobody who hears the song will misunderstand [my] love for hip-hop. There's no question that I love hip-hop, but because I do, I'm able to criticize it. "There are a lot of similarities between the tobacco industry and hip-hop: You tell a smoker it's bad for them, they don't give a sh--. It's like, I'll go out and buy an escapist, exciting, gangsta CD, and I'll love it even though I know it's saying things that are morally against who I am. I saw Ludacris on 'Oprah' the other day and it was the same [contradiction]. She kept on throwing out there, 'I don't agree with your lyrics,' and you could tell he wanted to say something to defend himself, but he's not gonna back-talk Oprah on her show! I think this is a big deal in hip-hop right now." "Believe Me" "This is gonna be the next single in the States. It's got Styles of Beyond — I've known those guys for about eight years. We're all from the same area here in L.A. They're on about half the record. "I definitely wanted to add different elements, and there were some things that I wanted that I couldn't play. There's a really famous Latin percussionist named Willie Bobo and that's his son, Eric [on the track]. He plays with the Beastie Boys, he plays with Cypress Hill. He's got this whole crazy Latin percussion kit — I don't even know what all the names of the things are. He made it out for the video too. People are already like, 'Wait, which guys are Styles of Beyond? And who's in what?' It's complex: We're on some Wu-Tang sh--!" "Remember the Name" "That snare [sound] is like 12 tracks of sticks and clapping and snapping and tambourine [combined into one]. It probably took me a half hour just to make it. I'm lucky because I'm able to play a lot of different instruments. In the case of somebody like Kanye, he works a lot with samples. I could've gone that route too, but I figure if there's something you can do that is, like, your gift, just focus on [that]. Besides the fact that samples can be expensive! "I had to do the strings — I think it's [because of my] classical start that I really like choir and strings. I met a really great guy named Dave Campbell — he's actually Beck's dad [and a top orchestrator for many years]. We worked with him on [Linkin Park's] Meteora. My favorite part of the process is, I'll play the string parts on keyboard and give him a CD, and after a day or two he brings in sheet music of the songs for string players to play. It's so much fun to see a hip-hop song transcribed for strings." "Kenji" " 'Kenji' is about the time during World War II, after Pearl Harbor was bombed, when the U.S. government put [thousands of people of Japanese descent] from the West Coast in prison camps. A lot of kids don't even know this — your history book in high school devoted like two paragraphs to it. I'm half Japanese and my family went through that, so I wanted to take that story and put it in a song. I felt really strongly about putting something on the record that was totally, uniquely me. "I did an interview with my dad and I did an interview with my aunt, who is almost 90 years old, and so they told me really what went on. I included that in the song. She was there when people were getting pulled out of their houses, and they had absolutely nothing to do with anything [involving the war]. It'd be your average neighbor — or you — getting pulled out of your house because you were racially profiled as somebody dangerous." "Right Now" " 'Right Now' is based on the idea from [Robert Altman's 1993 film] 'Short Cuts,' which is basically about cross-sections of life. And that's kinda what the song is like. It's me, Styles of Beyond and Black Thought [from the Roots], and everybody's got a different kind of life experience. Some of this stuff is fiction, some of it's non-fiction. Black Thought and Common were the first people who got on the album." "Where'd You Go" "We're thinking about doing this as a single. It's got a singer [signed to Linkin Park's Machine Shop Records] named Holly Brook on it. Her voice is unbelievable. [shinoda listens with his eyes closed, nearly in tears.] "There were only two songs that I told Jay and Brad [Delson of Linkin Park guitarist, who assisted with the album's production] that I can't take off the album: 'Kenji,' because it's about my family, 'Where'd You Go' because it makes my wife cry every time she hears it. [The song is written from the perspective of someone whose lover is always traveling.] "When it came time to talk about those things [in songs], I had to do them on my own. I can't do it with Linkin Park, out of respect for the other guys. It's almost asking for too much attention. I also wouldn't have done this record if it hadn't been for the support of the guys in the band — I wouldn't just go out and do it. They've been really cool about it, and I'm grateful." Source: MTV Thanks! Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hahninator Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 lmao I just showed this to Cyro and was about to post it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 Lol sorry! Bleh, I edited it and just copy pasted it all :-S I don't really know if I should partically copy the articles or copy it all if it's really long! Poor Mike was almost in tears at the end! I'm glad he told us a little about each song:) Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyro Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 lmao I just showed this to Cyro and was about to post it Haha, yeah, I just read it Thanks though, its awesome. Definatly the best interveiw so far. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/43e69772bb6f13028179fe6b2776b7f6.jpg [broken External Image]:http://hahninator.sotrix.net/lpliveguide/cutenews/data/upimages/lplive.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friðbjörn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Nice find, both of you lol Did Mike not give a tour of all the songs? Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 Ty! No, just 6 of them it seems. Out of a possible 21 ! Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friðbjörn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 that's weird... but aren't they 19? Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 There's 21 on my cd. But that's including the intro, and there seems to be 2 "[blank]" tracks that are 4 seconds long lol. I don't know what that's all about >.< Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friðbjörn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 lol okay, then there really are only 19 songs Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 He should explain the 4 second thingies I would listen to them now and see what they are, but it's late here and I don't wanna wake my brother up :-S You're right though 19 full tracks anyway Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash_the_Stampede Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The two blank tracks are 'Seperation tracks' They seperate the actual album tracks from the bonus tracks. Nice find though. ^_^ P.s. You should get on MSN... Hehe Quote Good bye, auf wiedersehen, adiós, sayonara Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hahninator Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Yours is gonna be rare someday It was an error in the manufacturing of the album... I think they're replacing it soon lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash_the_Stampede Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Mark, read my post, lol. All the Special Editions/Limited Editions or whatever have them. Quote Good bye, auf wiedersehen, adiós, sayonara Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hahninator Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 The two blank tracks are 'Seperation tracks' They seperate the actual album tracks from the bonus tracks. Nice find though. ^_^ P.s. You should get on MSN... Hehe They aren't supposed to be there though. It was a problem during the manufacturing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash_the_Stampede Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Yeah they are. Look anywhere. On the tracklisting on the back, it goes from 16 to 19. They're on all CDs with bonus tracks. Quote Good bye, auf wiedersehen, adiós, sayonara Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 Ty Vash! But the blank bits come one after another after track 6. 2 blank bits after "Kenji". The rest of the album can't be the bonus tracks can they lol? I'll only be able to log in msn for a couple mins because I gotta go bed heh. But only for you haha =P Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friðbjörn Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 damn...hearing you guys talk about the album really makes me wanna get ahold of it Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 12 bonus tracks?! Wow we got lucky lol. I really don't want a faulty copy Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash_the_Stampede Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 After Kenji? Hmmm.... You got the Special Edition, no? Quote Good bye, auf wiedersehen, adiós, sayonara Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 21, 2005 Author Share Posted November 21, 2005 Yeah I got the special edition :-S With the dvd :-S Omg, I knew the cheaper one was too good to be true lol! Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hahninator Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Hate to say it Vash, but... TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vash_the_Stampede Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Fuck you Mark. <3 Quote Good bye, auf wiedersehen, adiós, sayonara Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Aww don't rub it into Vash! Unless it's a strawberries and cream facial mask! Whoa good stuff! Anyway, oh no lol. *Runs and finds receipt* Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hahninator Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 *knows he was right all along* *rubs a "strawberries and cream facial mask" into Vash's face* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0SugaxNxSpice0o Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 ^ Lick it right back off his face right now Mark! LOL. *whistles* What have you done?! Quote [broken External Image]:http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9765/newsig2qs.gif It's Jen!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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