gay marriage

[Stenners]

Okay Firehawk.......... ur no longer homophobic

and you are now attracted to OAP's

 

........... no didnt think so............ ooo look u didnt make a choice :o

[FireHawk]

if u want it dropped so fucking badly then stop posting replies to anything i post...and stenners for as long as i have had contact u with u i never thought u would have as stupid of a post as ur last one u just posted

[Stenners]

Why is it stupid? According to those things you could change ur sexual prefences like that so why not just do that and prove me wrong by screwing your nan.

[FireHawk]

i'm not gonna change my sexual preference but i still belive people can pick and change there opions on what sexuality they are....

 

and wtf is a nan?

[Stenners]

And you lot claim to speak english pssssssssh lol

 

Grandmother go on prove me wrong...... till u do that I aint gonna take notice of any of your opinions again because they are uneducated dribble.

[Lenneh]

Hmm still agree with Stenners but .. you can discuss without flaming, you know.. it's not hard ..

[FireHawk]

sry matt but i have never heard the word nan....

[LPpinkfreak821]

[sighs] someone is about to get slapped. I would happily stay away from this thread, but I can't help standing up for what I believe in.

 

I'm not saying anyones name, but please... think it out MATURELY before you go posting something.

[FireHawk]

okay i know i'm trying to stay away from this thread but i know every post in by certain people is bashing me and there is another.....and i am pretty sure nan is not a commen term in United States...

[crazy robster]

// dead end \\

 

I absolutely agree...But, guys please, everyone's entitled to having their own personal opinion...Please respect it or at least talk about it without picking fights or anything...

[FireHawk]

I would like to say sorry if I offeneded anyone with anything I said it was uncalled for, and I am also sorry if my personal opions offend you, but thats just how I feel, and I will not post any more anti-gay messages in this thread.

[GraDoN]

Makes me sad, everyone has a opinion and i'm totaly against gayness..lemme tell u y. Did u c any gay people 100 years ago? any mass murders any bad drug abuse any of the shit that goes on today.. no. then everybody wonders why this world is so frikken stupid its cus what used to be right is now wrong and what used to be wrong is now right. Think about it..

[Stenners]

Makes me sad' date=' everyone has a opinion and i'm totaly against gayness..lemme tell u y. Did u c any gay people 100 years ago? any mass murders any bad drug abuse any of the shit that goes on today.. no. then everybody wonders why this world is so frikken stupid its cus what used to be right is now wrong and what used to be wrong is now right. Think about it..[/quote']

 

Homosexuality has been around for thousands of years........ mass murder was alll over the place if anything it was way worse back in them days as was rape and pillaging............. drug abuse... Marijouna, Opium and Alcohol ring any bells they all where mass cultivated since Jesus's time?

 

Yea they happend alot back then

[GraDoN]

more now than then u cant argue about that.... and i have to agree with some of u .. "u are who u are" BUT u also make ur own choises its a fact some ppl are born gay but its your choise if you want to controle it or nor

[Stenners]

Scuse me but where do u live?

 

Mass Murder was a hobby of Kings and Queens back then not to mention the amount of murders that would happen for food and so on.

 

Rape was common place within the Army and used to be legal......

 

Drug cultivation.......... tribes used to eat mushrooms and smoke tobbacco and marijouna 24/7 The british lost a war because they drunk a whole cellar worth of wine on spannish waters in the 17th century.

 

Also not the mention slavery, witch hunts and so on were much on the agender as well as child trading........... and you mean to tell me times now are worse then they where then? You got to be kidding either you dont take History or ur History is extremely censored.

[LPpinkfreak821]

Makes me sad' date=' everyone has a opinion and i'm totaly against gayness..lemme tell u y. Did u c any gay people 100 years ago? any mass murders any bad drug abuse any of the shit that goes on today.. no. then everybody wonders why this world is so frikken stupid its cus what used to be right is now wrong and what used to be wrong is now right. Think about it..[/quote']

 

 

I'm sorry to say, but open your eyes my dear.

 

As far as history goes there has always been things like that. Pirates, Gypsies, Murders, etc.. And btw, 100 years ago was only 1906. Trust me when I say that homosexuality goes way back further then that. So basically... Stenners was right.

[djwakka]

FireHawk and Hahninator, the reason why no one respects your opinions is because you have no logical reason supporting them. Okay, we all know that homosexuality isn't natural. But neither are all of the foods you eat unless you're Amish and only eat organic foods and refuse to go out to eat.

 

Locking them up or deporting them isn't right either. You don't sound any different than a supporter of Hitler when talking about minorities.

[FireHawk]

Homosexuality and killing was back at the beginng of time I will agree with Stenners 100% on that but I am still against it and I don't care if i get any respect for my opion since it is my opion..that is about all I am gonna say now since I want too spare an argument that will never end.

 

ALSO: As a matter of fact I have heard that male-on-male sex use to be done for fun and male-female sex was for reproduction...my opion wierd but your opion what ever...

[Hahninator]

Maybe I am a supporter of Hitler.

[FireHawk]

Maybe I am a supporter of Hitler.

He does have a good point maybe he is a supporter.....that would mean he wants to kil them all....

[Lyson]

Well, whatever you know, if thats what its gonna be then...what can we say. Good for them?? Personally, I have nothing against gay ppl, but i think marriage is a little bit much, but alls well in the end. (In The End)

[Hyper]

Yeah, I do, because it's more solid than the half-assed "personal experiences" I get from people.

 

"Blah blah blah, I'm gay"

"Oh I don't have a problem with that. My uncle is gay."

 

"Blah blah blah, gay blah blah blah"

"OH really? My (friend, doorman, pediatrician, neighbor's daughter, pet dog) is also gay and blah blah blah"

 

I've heard these conversations at my school verbatim. If I really listened to these people, I'd be dumb as shit and believe that there are more gay people in this world than straight. Vash, I'm not saying your lying, but you can't blame me or anyone for being skeptical.

 

No offence but I have a question, you don't think it's possible that your ex was gay the entire time through your relationship, but was influenced by the orthodox standards of society and simply learned to love you? Or maybe she was undecided at the time and was trying new things and stuck with you. Give or take, you're 17-18 now. Adolescence. That's when people are discovering who they really are.

 

IMHO, you can't "become" gay and I also doubt it's hereditary. But straight men don't go to jail and have sex with other men because they suddenly felt attracted to the same gender. They did irrational things that weren't true to their original sexual orientation for a variety of factors, which was probably the case with your ex.

 

So you're skeptical about whether or not there's physical evidence of what sexual orientation you have?

 

Don't play the plead to ignorance card, just because it isn't proven doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

But if you want to continue on that arrogant point, then why don't you take some initiative and prove me wrong instead of asking me to give you an article. It is basic common sense that your orientation changes depending on what you as a person want. So let me reiterate this, there is no physical feature on any human that determines what their sexual preference is.

 

I think people are born gay, but not because their parents had gay genes or whatnot (heriditary). I don't think it's like a heart condition where if your parents have heart problems, then the children will be likely to have similar problems.

 

I think it's a trait your born with, but I have no idea if it's actually hereditary. Maybe it is, but that doesn't make sense when you think about this sudden explosion in the gay population. Then again, even though gays are constantly bashed and looked down upon today, it's still alot more accepted than it was years ago.

 

Again; I'll do what you've done and ask you to produce an article, from a credible source, that proves that you're born gay. Orientation is not hardwired into a person.

 

@Firehawk & Mark: I don't care if you guys have apologized or not, but you guys need to take a fucking step back. You're rude arrogant assholes. Just because you don't like gays doesn't mean that you have to force your opinion on other people. I don't fucking care what your opinion is, if you have to present it in a rude an arrogant fashion you can shove it up your ass.

 

I know I'm being quite rude myself, but you two need to recognize your arrogance. Being gay isn't natural. Says who? The only 'natural' things that exist today are not in cities. Electricity, Technology, Air Conditioning, Motor Vehicles; none of those are natural. They're the product of the mind, as is sexuality. So maybe you should excercise your brain and fucking think before you display your arrogance again. :thumbsup:

 

@Gradon: You're less arrogant than Mark and Firehawk; but you're still arrogant. Sexual orientation doesn't have anything to do with mass murder or drugs. Just because they've been persecuted doesn't make them the scum of the earth. The Jews aren't the scum of the earth, and back in the day they'd been put through hell. A lot of people do drugs. Doesn't mean they're gay.

[GraDoN]

Scuse me but where do u live?

 

if u can read.. South Africa. Let me tell u one thing. We are one of the better off places to be. Tv was banned till late 1980's because our goverment saw what it did to some of you f uped american. So was porn and all that shit. Till the ANC took over... then TV's came in porn was everywhere and guess what... Rape here went up with 400% YES 400% and people started getting gay.. AIDS started to spread like Cocaine. We now have one of the highest crime rate and THE highest AIDS rate in the WORLD..... (im white btw) anyway im still against gayness AND THATS MY OPINION. Like some of u ppl might know Cape Town is one of the Gay cities of the world... Ill tell u why i dont like gayness... Maths work GREAT in this kk... Man + Man = ....nothing...Women + Women = .... nothing BUT Man + Women = CHILD. YAY isent that simple if u to blind to c that God made MAN AND WOMEN together and not man and man because they cant get a child of their own... its pretty simple the world just want what will make them happy.. but thats my opinion so if u dont like it its your problem its how i feel.

[Hyper]

if u can read.. South Africa. Let me tell u one thing. We are one of the better off places to be. Tv was banned till late 1980's because our goverment saw what it did to some of you f uped american. So was porn and all that shit. Till the ANC took over... then TV's came in porn was everywhere and guess what... Rape here went up with 400% YES 400% and people started getting gay.. AIDS started to spread like Cocaine. We now have one of the highest crime rate and THE highest AIDS rate in the WORLD..... (im white btw) anyway im still against gayness AND THATS MY OPINION. Like some of u ppl might know Cape Town is one of the Gay cities of the world... Ill tell u why i dont like gayness... Maths work GREAT in this kk... Man + Man = ....nothing...Women + Women = .... nothing BUT Man + Women = CHILD. YAY isent that simple if u to blind to c that God made MAN AND WOMEN together and not man and man because they cant get a child of their own... its pretty simple the world just want what will make them happy.. but thats my opinion so if u dont like it its your problem its how i feel.

 

I'm not seeing the connection between being gay and television/porn/rape/aids. scientists say aids came from people mating with a monkey, that means males, not necessarily gay or straight. But let me ask you this, sense male on male, and female on female produce nothing, are you suggesting that to the mass of teens that have sex but don't want a child? You just threw your whole argument out the window with your last point. You're using religion as your basis of argument. Religion is skewed and cannot be used in arguments like this. By the way, God didn't make man and woman together, he made man, and then woman.

 

Which brings me to another point. What's your view on incest? It's another taboo of society. It's 'not right' according to the religous point of view. But tell me, if we all came from Adam and Eve, which is what religion teaches, there had to be incest in there somewhere.

[Stenners]

Yea and if u could actually read im not from America so think before you speak 'GraDon'. TV was banned in Africa because of the properganda the power of Africa didnt dear want to risk any potential of free speech. Living in such a war torn and a nation with such a horrid history you'd think you would understand past problems and yes if Adam & Eve was true that means Incest has been commited....... every time basically as everyone has near identical coding and it wouldnt water down if we all originate from the same 2 people it just wouldnt nuff said.-#

 

To be perfectly honest you in particular seem to be brainwashed by ur religion, parents, whatever............ as from other things that are evident in your profile, the way you express your views and the way you can't seem to be open to any new info not to mention you full of stats and figures which are complete bullshit.

 

Not to mention that your sig is over exagerated...... I believe its actually 1 or 2 thirds of the population no to mention you seem to be on some politcal and religious crusade.