Clogz Posted February 8, 2006 Posted February 8, 2006 The editor of the French paper that published those cartoons was fired because of it. And I read today that a NATO base in Afghanistan was attacked was retaliation for the drawings. And djwakka, the cartoons offended many Muslims who saw them re-printed here in America. There is a protest about it in Philidelphia(?) right now over the paper's right to this. Now, one of the biggest rules of journalism is to know who your audience is...and I think that is where this issue has become so muddy. These Danish papers were marketing not to the Middle East, but to thier own country and thier own people. When we reach a point reporters must consider the world thier reading audience, we will have a problem. Journalism is a perspective, and therefore it is inherently bias. Like I said, this whole thing is just a little ridiculious. I think that if they want to forbid thier newspapers from these cartoons, that is fine...but that does not give them the right to ban papers worldwide for doing it. Quote And then I felt chills in my bones / The breath I saw was not my own I knew my skin that wrapped my frame / Wasn't made to play this game XXI
Shadow_Serpent Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Whoever printed it is a total idiot. He should have thought about the consequences before he published it. IMO, the muslims are NOT overracting; This is their BELIEF! their RELIGION! They even have a book about Muhammad's teachings, and its one of their three holiest books! Yes, i do think it is unfair that they are killing innocents that have probably never heard of the newspaper, but insulting someone's religion is the worst thing you can do, basically. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/6d904e9fab4dcd2e39de1caf6a339f56.gif Official Fort Minor Foot Soldier OFFICIAL FORT MINOR MILITIA MEMBER!
acdcrules04 Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Its called free speech people. I know that America wasn't involved (that much) but still, I believe that everybody should have that right. And how did the Muslims find the cartoon? Do they like search through every document that is printed just do find something to riot about? I don't know man, I guess this is just another reason why I hate organized religon. Atack me if you must for the last comment... it's only the internet. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bb2dcf01aaef6417df375864d8457158.gif myspace|peta2
Jelly Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 the muslims found it cuz there are muslims living in tht country and i'm a muslim n i think printing the drawings was wrong...when they printed it the first time i guess they didnt know what would happen so it was ok BUT people made petitions and everything n then other newpapers reprinted it..i think thts y theres a huge riot..because it was reprinted after people were offended..i kno wut the muslims r doing is wrong(killing innocent people) and its not right in our religion to kill innocent people...one of the teaching in our religion is forgiveness and i think in this case we have to forgive n the muslims killing innocent people is also against our religion because "Islam" is a command for peace and i dont think killing people is very peaceful...wow thts the longest post i've ever posted..lol Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/0f9ca8954da15d34f02dbae2b1111ce1.gif Thanks to ForgottenKid for the signature.
UnhingedMouse0 Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 "One man's joke is another man's Jehad." - The Colbert Report I love that show... and The Daily Show 1 Quote [ R.I.P. LPF ]
Friðbjörn Posted February 9, 2006 Author Posted February 9, 2006 Well the US just got dragged into this, as Bush declared US gov. support to Denmark, what, yesterday it was I think. Oh and an Iranian newspaper (I think it's in Iran) has a contest going, for the best comic making fun of the holocaust (sp?) now. Let's see how people will respond to that... Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
Chris Posted February 9, 2006 Posted February 9, 2006 Its called free speech people. I know that America wasn't involved (that much) but still' date=' I believe that everybody should have that right. And how did the Muslims find the cartoon? Do they like search through every document that is printed just do find something to riot about? I don't know man, I guess this is just another reason why I hate organized religon. Atack me if you must for the last comment... it's only the internet.[/quote'] Well.. muslim people DO live in Denmark. Yes, its true. Quote
Friðbjörn Posted February 9, 2006 Author Posted February 9, 2006 Yeah and after they printed the pictures back in September, a group from the Danish Muslim Organization went to the middle east countries to meet with leaders of the countries there, and in the meeting they showed the pictures, cause they brought them, and that's how the Muslim world heard about the pictures. However, it's just been proved, well they said it in the news, that they pictures showing Muhammed as a pig, were falsified, they were made by extremists, to make the Muslim public react worse, and hate Denmark more. So one of the pictures that hurt Muslims the most, was drawn by Muslim extremists, not Danes. And today there was a story in a newspaper here, about a Norwegian woman, who saved her life from angry Muslim mob by telling them she was Icelandic. The angry "protestors" then told her, they would have killed her if she had been Danish. I do currently not have that much sympathy for Muslims, if some of them are going to react this way. Basically, the people were searching for a Dane, innocent or not, to kill. What the hell is wrong with the world? Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
azemkamikaze03 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Anybody seen South Park, Family Guy, or heard the song what if God smoked Cannibas? All thoes have insults to God or Jesus, but I don't see any Christians tearing down buildings and wil'n out. It's un called for but hey...Some people don't know when to chill, even if it is someone they worship then let the bastards insulting Muhammed burn in hell, two wrongs dont make a right...even i know that. Quote ¿whysoserious?
Fort_Underground Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 It seems to me as though you people are not taking into consideration the people of the Islamic faith. The Koran states that no one should draw Allah or any of his prophets, which includes Muhamad and Jesus. That is why they are rioting. The Danish paper did something to which their religion forbides. This isn't because they want to people. And did any of you see that one of the drawings has Muhamads wearing a turban shaped like a bomb? Oh yeah, really funny, making fun of Islamic people and their faith by showing that a prophet of Allah was a suicide bomber. I mean, sure its the freedom of press. But you people don't take into the fact the view from the Islamic point. I mean sure, like you guys said earlier they have jesus in south park, but that because the bilble is ok with drawings of Jesus. That, and christains in America really arent that religous. The Middle East is an area of great religousnes. I mean, they stop what they are doing in the midlle of the day, get on prayer rugs, and pray towards Mecca. They do this 5 times a day. So obviously their reilgion requires a greater comitment than just going to church on Sunday for one hour. I think that the Danish paper should stop it, because they are the ones who are responsible. But now I hear that a French magazine printed them, so now it probably wont be stopped. I mean honestly, is it that hard to just stop making cartoons making fun of other peoples faith just to protect the freedom of press? Quote I am the guy on the forums that your conservative parents warned you about Victory not Vengence
azemkamikaze03 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 It seems to me as though you people are not taking into consideration the people of the Islamic faith. The Koran states that no one should draw Allah or any of his prophets' date=' which includes Muhamad and Jesus. That is why they are rioting. The Danish paper did something to which their religion forbides. This isn't because they want to people. And did any of you see that one of the drawings has Muhamads wearing a turban shaped like a bomb? Oh yeah, really funny, making fun of Islamic people and their faith by showing that a prophet of Allah was a suicide bomber. I mean, sure its the freedom of press. But you people don't take into the fact the view from the Islamic point. I mean sure, like you guys said earlier they have jesus in south park, but that because the bilble is ok with drawings of Jesus. That, and christains in America really arent that religous. The Middle East is an area of great religousnes. I mean, they stop what they are doing in the midlle of the day, get on prayer rugs, and pray towards Mecca. They do this 5 times a day. So obviously their reilgion requires a greater comitment than just going to church on Sunday for one hour. I think that the Danish paper should stop it, because they are the ones who are responsible. But now I hear that a French magazine printed them, so now it probably wont be stopped. I mean honestly, is it that hard to just stop making cartoons making fun of other peoples faith just to protect the freedom of press?[/quote'] It's not hard and it may not be right, but they have that freedom. A while back in Skokie, Illionois a Nazi party wanted to have a march in a jewish comunity no matter how bad ppl knew it was they had to let them do it becuase the law says they can Quote ¿whysoserious?
Friðbjörn Posted February 10, 2006 Author Posted February 10, 2006 Exactly. Freedom of speech and press. I however think it's out of line for the newspaper to print it, but those Muslims who are seeking to kill innocent people over the drawings, are more out of line. Come on, you can't say it's ok for them to kill people, even though a Western country newspaper printed offensive drawings. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
Fort_Underground Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Exactly. Freedom of speech and press. I however think it's out of line for the newspaper to print it, but those Muslims who are seeking to kill innocent people over the drawings, are more out of line. Come on, you can't say it's ok for them to kill people, even though a Western country newspaper printed offensive drawings. That I can agree with you on. However though, more people have been killed because of religon than any other cause. So its not that unheard of when people die because of religion. Yes I don't think they should kill inocent people over it, but the Danish paper has to look at this and do something. I mean I could understand if they were artist quality drawings, but they are cartoons. That is why to me the Danish paper should stop it. I wonder how many people actually find it funny in Europe when people draw cartoons of God. Quote I am the guy on the forums that your conservative parents warned you about Victory not Vengence
Friðbjörn Posted February 10, 2006 Author Posted February 10, 2006 Stop what? They aren't doing anything right now. Btw those cartoons were printed back in September... Of course, but I mean it's 2006, you would have thought man kind would have grown up more, but hey I guess not. I'm guessing not many Europeans are going to want to kill innocent Muslims when the Iranian contest on who draws the best cartoons mocking the holocaust is done and published. I however expect Israelis to do something, even maybe the Bush administration. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
Heart_LP Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 This conflict is one of the most unnecessary thing I've ever seen. Cause it's just useless. It has been done! the cartoon has been drawn! they cant be undone. I just dont get it why everything works with violence these days. Quote ♀ fighter ♀
Fort_Underground Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Yes you would have thought that mankind would have grown up, but when you look at it all, man has populated the planet for almost no signifgant peroid. If you were to see the evolution of our planet and how we cam to be in 24 hours- This is what you would watch: 12 hours in- bacteria 16 hours in- Complex organisims 20 hours in- Dinosaurs 23 hours, 59 minutes, 59 seconds in- Man So when you think about man really hasnt been around that long. Not to mention the fact that the Middle East is very religous. I guess in the end both parties here are at fault. The Denmark paper for creating them, and the Islamic people for taking too strong a stand on it. Quote I am the guy on the forums that your conservative parents warned you about Victory not Vengence
Friðbjörn Posted February 11, 2006 Author Posted February 11, 2006 lol I already know that 24 hour model thing, and yeah that's true, we haven't been around for long. Just to be really really annoying and on detail, it's about 45 seconds, not 59. I don't really see man kind growing up, to more than it has as of today, so I don't think it really matters how long we've been around. But I agree, it's basicly both parties' fault Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
woodyloveslinkin Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 why would you want to piss off the muslims (no offence to muslims of LPF) when you know that they take their religion seriously? Quote Mia Elizabeth 18/2/10 Kate Helena 8/7/11 My baby girls <3
acdcrules04 Posted February 14, 2006 Posted February 14, 2006 Because it was a political cartoon. It was someones opinion. They wouldn't have printed if they knew all this bullshit would happen. Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bb2dcf01aaef6417df375864d8457158.gif myspace|peta2
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