9/11 -- Was it real?

[Brkng_Th_Hbt]

This is quoted directly from a thread at ultimate-guitar.com forums.

 

http://www.mujahideenryder.net/?postid=34

 

 

I just watched this video, and I think this is quite possibly the most shocking thing I have ever seen. The videos are a little over an hour, but worth every second. There are just so many facts to disprove every aspect of this horrible day, it is amazing. I watched 2nd Edition first, and am going to go back and watch the first one. Absolutely amazing.

 

 

Hopefully this won't turn into another conspiracy thread. This is rock solid evidence.

 

 

R.I.P. everyone lost on 9/11

 

 

Discuss.

 

 

The things in the 2nd Edition about the Pentagon are the best parts for me. I live in nortern Virginia, about 5 miles from DC, and was in the car with my mom downtown when it happened, on the other side of the Pentagon. I saw something zip through the sky and the next thing I knew, a huge explosion. I am certain though, that what I saw wasn't a plane.

 

*paranoid*

 

EDIT: This thread is for '2nd Edition.' Watch that one. There is already a thread (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...ad.php?t=315231) on the first part. THIS IS FOR PART TWO

 

Due to my lame internet connection, I can't watch the videos. The thread got a lot of replies and such, so I decided to post it here.

 

Source: http://ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315516

[Chris]

I know for sure that the Pentagon wasnt real. How the hell can a Boeing 747 create such kinda small hole? Its impossible.

[allieking]

i've watched these videos and i belive that it wasn't real, if you haven't watched them i think you should.

 

a plane did not make the hole in the pentagon and if it did it dissapeard into thin air.

[djwakka]

A note before I speak: I'm not a conspirator of anything, I don't take everything and correlate it to the government and blame them. The following are reasonable accounts.

 

First and foremost, Loose Change Part I: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194

 

Loose Change Part II

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801

 

Warning: They are long but very insightful about what happened that day.

If someone requests a high quality video download, i'll post it up here as well but that's only if someone asks for it.

 

A smaller clip focusing on the pentagon

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/

 

A lyrical quote from Immortal Technique, "Cause of Death":

Now here's the truth about the system that'll fuck up your mind

They gave Al Queda 6 billion dollars in 1989 to 1992

And now the last chapters of Revelations are coming true

And I know a lot of people find it hard to swallow this

Because subliminal bigotry makes you hate my politics

But you act like America wouldn't destroy two buildings

In a country that was sponsoring bombs dropped on our children

I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest

I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives

And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did

About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge

Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency

And then it disappeared from the news permanently

They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof

"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse

...

The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th

The New World Order was born on September 11th

 

And yeah, the MC isn't lying. I too saw the less than 2 minute coverage on the local news about the bomb scare on the GWB, not to hear of the incident ever again.

 

 

 

Free your mind.

[UnhingedMouse0]

I would REALLY like to see the higher quality version wakka. That'd be very much appreciated.

 

I believe these. I used to think they were fake and all that, but when you have so much corroberating (sp?) information being thrown at you from so many different sources, its hard not to believe it. If youve seen the recent few episodes of 24, although a fictional show, you begin to realize how much the government can do without the people knowing. Also, although I dont like Bush, I believe that he was not actually the one who is charge of this. I have a feeling like it was someone else or a group of people in his administration that just took him along for the ride. Actually, considering my 24 reference, Im thinking maybe they based this season off of the 9/11 theories. Its suprisingly similar if you think about it. Also, does anyone have that GWB bomb scare vid? Sorry for rambling, but its just hard to fathom all of this and even harder to put my views into words that are meaningfull enough to portray my true feelings.

 

The pentagon vid from that nearby hotel is what I really want.

 

Who knows, maybe we will find out the whole truth in 30 years, but by then will it really matter any more?

[FireHawk]

A note before I speak: I'm not a conspirator of anything, I don't take everything and correlate it to the government and blame them. The following are reasonable accounts.

 

First and foremost, Loose Change Part I: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194

 

Loose Change Part II

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801

 

Warning: They are long but very insightful about what happened that day.

If someone requests a high quality video download, i'll post it up here as well but that's only if someone asks for it.

 

A smaller clip focusing on the pentagon

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/

 

A lyrical quote from Immortal Technique, "Cause of Death":

Now here's the truth about the system that'll fuck up your mind

They gave Al Queda 6 billion dollars in 1989 to 1992

And now the last chapters of Revelations are coming true

And I know a lot of people find it hard to swallow this

Because subliminal bigotry makes you hate my politics

But you act like America wouldn't destroy two buildings

In a country that was sponsoring bombs dropped on our children

I was watching the Towers, and though I wasn't the closest

I saw them crumble to the Earth like they was full of explosives

And they thought nobody noticed the news report that they did

About the bombs planted on the George Washington bridge

Four Non-Arabs arrested during the emergency

And then it disappeared from the news permanently

They dubbed a tape of Osama, and they said it was proof

"Jealous of our freedom," I can't believe you bought that excuse

...

The Devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th

The New World Order was born on September 11th

 

And yeah, the MC isn't lying. I too saw the less than 2 minute coverage on the local news about the bomb scare on the GWB, not to hear of the incident ever again.

 

 

 

Free your mind.

 

 

Good song...and yeah I agree.....

[azemkamikaze03]

Hmm i love conspiracies so far ive only seen the vid from bth but ill check out the others in a bit

 

very cool stuff

[Friðbjörn]

Who knows' date=' maybe we will find out the whole truth in 30 years, but by then will it really matter any more? [/quote']

I don't think so. If this is one of those big CIA coverups, then they'll do a hell of a job keeping it secret for a VERY long time. But I think it will matter. 9/11 could have major consequences for the future, even in like 50 years. Something caused from 9/11 could influence the distant future.

[shadowfax1007]

who knows what to believe?

 

all i know is, that the government and media just feeds us selective bullshit, the stuff they want us to see and hear, unless your top level government, you will never know the full truth about anything. I mean, fuck, there could be aliens and invisibility and teleportation for all we know, but we will never know.

[azemkamikaze03]

 

Who knows, maybe we will find out the whole truth in 30 years, but by then will it really matter any more?

 

Well, at first thought you might say no. But then think about it. Who's going to really want to trust us? We lied about a bombing we orchestrated and blamed it on someone else. Other countries are gunna wonder if America is really trust worthy. I mean you could argue its just with the Bush Admin. But who's to say there aren't other "scandals" that just haven't been revealed yet.

[linkinpark-1]

It definatly happened. Do you honestly think that the goverment could get away with something like this? Honestly! The liberals wouldn't stand for it, they are putting up a big fuss about Terrorist Survalance operation, imagin what they would do if they knew 9/11 didn't happen. Not that I'm saying I agree with the Terrorist Survalance operation, I'm just saying they are making it a way to big of deal, but that's a different subject matter.

[azemkamikaze03]

It definatly happened. Do you honestly think that the goverment could get away with something like this? Honestly! The liberals wouldn't stand for it' date=' they are putting up a big fuss about Terrorist Survalance operation, imagin what they would do if they knew 9/11 didn't happen. Not that I'm saying I agree with the Terrorist Survalance operation, I'm just saying they are making it a way to big of deal, but that's a different subject matter.[/quote']

 

 

could it be possible that our freedom of speech is being shunned off from being heard? Is it possible that the supposed left wing media is not attempting to allow this information to be released? Is it possible that the government is working their ass off to silence people the best they can? liberals arent doing anything for a reason...and they know somethings wrong...nor are the conservatives...currupt seems to fit the white house

 

I think so.

[ForgottenKid]

I dont know sometimes things like this seem like a little sham that the government has cooked up to cover some foolish action they have done. Like azem said "currupt seems to fit the white house," is a really strong point and all but all forms of government are corupted in some sort of way. But like UnhingedMouse said, in 20-30 years we might find the truth and no one will give a shit.

[Hahninator]

I know for sure that the Pentagon wasnt real. How the hell can a Boeing 747 create such kinda small hole? Its impossible.

 

Exactly. I know the Pentagon one was faked, so the Government knew something, so obviously the World Trade Centers were faked somehow too. I know it all happened, but not as they said it happened. Of course the fucking towers collapsed, but it's all fucking crazy.

 

There's a video in an older 9-11 thread that Vash and I watched - it explains all the World Trade and Pentagon shit together, obviously proving it's fake.

 

Shove it Bush.

[azemkamikaze03]

bush....i trusted you....what happened dawg?

 

at the bar b que you were so cool i thought i could trust you

[LPGotLinkinPark]

I've watched several of those conspiracy videos, but it's hard to know what to believe.

[azemkamikaze03]

yeah...i mean...Gawd i love conspiracies

[Hahninator]

I believe most of them too lol

[azemkamikaze03]

except for the one about me being big foot...not cool...hated that one

 

edit: seriously once there was this rumour going around i was "attacked" by bigfoot....i was like what the hell?

[linkinpark-1]

If our generation is being mislead already, I wonder what it's going to be like when we take control of the goverment...scary thought.

[Clogz]

Question...I can't watch these videos, but if someone could tell me why they believe our government would throw to planes and a missile against thier own landmarks, civilians, soldiers, and cities, perhaps this would make more sense to me.

[Vash_the_Stampede]

From what I can remember about first seeing them, is that they did it to give a public outcry & to gain support to go to war with Saddam.

[Hahninator]

fuck they must have wanted Saddam more than anything if they fucking killed all those people

[Clogz]

The War in Iraq.

Hamas in the Middle East.

The caricature protests.

The Nuclear Crisis in Iran.

 

The Middle East is a hotbed of aggression that keeps getting stirred up more, and more. I'm afriad of what might happen. We are so focused on Iraq now, that all these things we use to keep watch over are now spiraling out of control.

I think George Washington was right about isolationilism. And were paying for it by ignoring that.

[Hahninator]

I think the US will keep going until all the world is democratic

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060207/ap_on_re_us/moussaoui_trial

 

"ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Proclaiming "I am al-Qaida," terrorist conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui disrupted the opening of his sentencing trial Monday and was tossed out of court as selection began for the jurors who will decide whether he lives or dies."

 

No shit he's in al-Qaida. The US fucking trained al-Qaida. Talk about propaganda buddy. The US says they're all bad and stuff, but we're the ones that created them in the first place lmao. America founded al-Qaida to fight Russia, and I think we even got Muhammed whats his face (someone help me here) to run it, then he came back to the US, got al-Qaida all anti-USA, stole documents from military bases and passed them to his terrorist cell in NYC, etc. He was captured in 2001, the USA's MOST WANTED SUSPECT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD AT THE TIME. HOW THE FUCK DOES HE ESCAPE LESS THAN A YEAR LATER WITH NO MEDIA COVERAGE WHAT SO EVER? You can look up on Google that he was captured. You have to research your ass out to find out that he escaped from jail in the US. How the fuck lol. Anyways, on to this guy. Yeah he's al-Qaida. ^_^

 

"He pleaded guilty last April to conspiring to fly planes into U.S. buildings but claims he had no role in the Sept. 11 plot."

 

Exactly. Even this motherfucker knows the US Government plotted 9/11. If he's guilty on 9/11 charges, then wtf.

 

Wow... lol long rant. Ill look up Mohammed whats his face and give more info on him. I research al-Qaida all the time and can't even remember his name ;_;