Religion

[Jeezy]

I don't believe in things that nobody can proof to me. I'm not religious. I don't care about it.

[Fall_And_Faint]

It kinda depends on how someone can Prove it to you

[Jeezy]

Yeah but how can you prove that there is a God or there was Jesus or something like that?

[THE-DAMNED-OF-DARKNE]

I'm not religious at all. I believe in myself.

[KillMeImIrish]

GotLinkinPark?']And if God forgives everyone then why is sinning even wrong?

 

 

God forgives those who truly repent of their sins and try their best to turn away from those sins. so, sinning is wrong because people live a lifestyle of sin without repenting. and don't throw the whole "so people can say 'well, i can sin and then ask forgiveness afterward.'" because that's so far from the truth. without truly being sorry for what you've done and wanting to turn completely away from it, you're better off not even asking forgiveness. i'm not 100% sure, but i've heard that's one of the unforgiveable sins. but then, i've read that the ONLY unforgiveable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. so i'm not too sure about that one.

 

i, for one, am a christian. yeah, i bet you guys couldn't tell, right? right. well honestly, until about 2 weekish ago, i kind of 'forgot' that i was a christian. you've all seen me say things about drugs and alcohol and cursing and such.. but i'm really trying to get rid of that stuff in my life. so don't hold me against it.

 

wow. there's so many different opinions about 'religion' and such. honestly, christianity isn't a 'religion.' it's a lifestyle. the Bible isn't just a religious book that we follow and everything's ok. it's a guideline guiding us how to live life. whew.. i know there are so many things in the Bible that i don't always follow.. but those of you christians out there know what i'm talking about when i say it's pretty darn hard to follow EVERYTHING in the Bible. society is so corrupt. even the "christians" are letting things slide that shouldn't be. like... gay marriage. now, i know i'm probably gonna get hell for this, but i have tons of gay friends. and i don't have anything against them. but i in no way support them at all. i love them as people, hate them as sinners. and... abortion. yes- i believe in free choice or what not. but i don't believe that you should kill an innocent human being who has no way to defend their life just because you don't want it.

 

anywho, i am in no way judgemental of anybody. i think everyone has an opportunity to live the way they want to. sure i WANT you to believe in Christ and accept Him, but i'm not going to condemn you to all things unholy if you don't. that just doesn't cut it. and i sure as heck don't force my opinion on you. i might question you about your's, but that's simply because i don't understand what you're saying and just want to know where you're coming from. and if you disagree with what i have to say, cool:) i'm actually glad you have a different opinion. dude, life would kind of suck if everyone thought the same way. what kind of life would it be if everything was a piece of cake?

 

and if you say "well, the church is full of hypocrites." yeah, sure is. but that's where hypocrites belong. in the church so they can be driven to their knees in conviction and repent of whatever it might be that's holding them back from a wonderful relationship with Christ.

 

as for people in the church judging those outside of the church... yeah. let's no go there. i absolutely cannot stand it when people in the church judge others so quickly because their wearing a certain type of clothing or just look differently than what they believe christians should look like. i have no idea where they get this from. i don't believe that christians should dress a certain way at all. that's crazy. no, i don't think girls should wear 2 inches of clothing, but if they do, they should pray for them.. not judge them. if the people of the church can't accept how a person looks, then they have no right to be calling themselves a christian at all. if the church is about witnessing and helping people come to Christ, they can't expect to condemn them and still be a good witness.

 

i know i've heard so many people saying that we christians think and act like we're better than everyone else.. well yes, some do. but can you really call them christians if they don't humble themselves and think about others first? think about that before you believe everyone who says "yeah, i'm a christian." i am in no way a perfect Christian, nor will i ever be. but i don't expect to be perfect. i can strive to be perfect, but i'll never reach it. so don't think that we think that.

 

hmm.. i really have so much more to say.. but it's not coming to me right now. i probably didn't back up my statements as well as you guys would want me to.. but oh well. i have one last question- if you're so against christianity, what "religion" do you follow or prefer?

 

 

 

 

this post wasn't aimed at [LP]gotlp.... that was just the firstish paragraph.

[Victim]

My thoughts:

 

I believe in God and Jesus.. I believe there is a Heaven and Hell..I believe that some people will go to Hell and some people will go to Heaven.. Its your choices in life that decide where you go..

 

I myself am a Christian.. I have believed in God all my life.. I will admit I don't go to church like I should, but thats only because I wasn't brought up to go every Sunday.. Which I am okay with.. I am glad that my parents have never forced a religion on me, because they are two diffrent religions.. My mom is one thing, my dad another.. And I am ok with that.. As long is they never try to force me to chose between them..

 

I believe that the sins you commit and whether or not you ask for forgiveness and mean it will decide if you got to Heaven or Hell.. I have done some bad things in my life and I alway pray to God and ask for forgiveness.

 

I think God hears our prays and decides what is best for us.. If he feels we need what we pray for he will answer our prayer.. But if we don't get what we pray for then he knows that we won't need it in the end..

 

If you are a diffrent religion.. or maybe you don't believe in God at all.. I am okay with that.. That is why I do not discuss religion with my friends.. Its your own decision you make and no one should try and change your mind...

Like KMII said.. If everyone had the same opinion all the time life would suck..

 

If no one agreed with a word I just said, I would be ok with that.. because it is my thing to believe and no one else's.. Do what you want with your own life..

 

If not believing in God makes you happy than thats great.. But if going to church every Sunday is what makes you happy then that is great as well...

 

Thats all for now..

[KillMeImIrish]

 

I think God hears our prays and decides what is best for us.. If he feels we need what we pray for he will answer our prayer.. But if we don't get what we pray for then he knows that we won't need it in the end..

 

God answers every prayer. Yes, No, or not now.

[Reflectionist]

Clogz I wasn't quick to do anything. It's a snowball. It's been building up for years. Do you understand?

[acdcrules04]

If there's no God' date=' there's no Hope. If there's no Hope, you might as well kill yourself. Because there's nothing worth being here for. Sorry. That's just the way it is.[/quote']

 

So your saying that because I don't believe in something that you do I should kill myself? That's plain ignorance.

[LPGotLinkinPark]

God forgives those who truly repent of their sins and try their best to turn away from those sins. so' date=' sinning is wrong because people live a lifestyle of sin without repenting. and don't throw the whole "so people can say 'well, i can sin and then ask forgiveness afterward.'" because that's so far from the truth. without truly being sorry for what you've done and wanting to turn completely away from it, you're better off not even asking forgiveness. i'm not 100% sure, but i've heard that's one of the unforgiveable sins. but then, i've read that the ONLY unforgiveable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. so i'm not too sure about that one.[/quote']

That's pretty much what I have always thought, if you are sorry for the mistakes you made and understand why they are wrong and you will try not to do it again, then you are forgiven. But other people go around preaching that God forgives you for anything.

[Fall_And_Faint]

Like to prove it to some people you've gotta give them a miracle.

Some people need something Physical.

Some People need a Feeling.

 

It just depends on what makes you believe

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

My thoughts:

 

I believe in God and Jesus.. I believe there is a Heaven and Hell..I believe that some people will go to Hell and some people will go to Heaven.. Its your choices in life that decide where you go..

 

I myself am a Christian.. I have believed in God all my life.. I will admit I don't go to church like I should, but thats only because I wasn't brought up to go every Sunday.. Which I am okay with.. I am glad that my parents have never forced a religion on me, because they are two diffrent religions.. My mom is one thing, my dad another.. And I am ok with that.. As long is they never try to force me to chose between them..

 

I believe that the sins you commit and whether or not you ask for forgiveness and mean it will decide if you got to Heaven or Hell.. I have done some bad things in my life and I alway pray to God and ask for forgiveness.

 

I think God hears our prays and decides what is best for us.. If he feels we need what we pray for he will answer our prayer.. But if we don't get what we pray for then he knows that we won't need it in the end..

 

If you are a diffrent religion.. or maybe you don't believe in God at all.. I am okay with that.. That is why I do not discuss religion with my friends.. Its your own decision you make and no one should try and change your mind...

Like KMII said.. If everyone had the same opinion all the time life would suck..

 

If no one agreed with a word I just said, I would be ok with that.. because it is my thing to believe and no one else's.. Do what you want with your own life..

 

If not believing in God makes you happy than thats great.. But if going to church every Sunday is what makes you happy then that is great as well...

 

Thats all for now..

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KillMeImIrish Quote:

Originally Posted by Victim

 

I think God hears our prays and decides what is best for us.. If he feels we need what we pray for he will answer our prayer.. But if we don't get what we pray for then he knows that we won't need it in the end..

 

 

 

God answers every prayer. Yes, No, or not now.

 

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Amen brother and sisters

:thumbsup:

 

 

Im a christian who meet with some believers for the true perpuse of being a christian, having oneness in the church (not seperate dinominations), and buildingg up the body of christ.

As you mite have noticed christianity is the most divided religion

 

im not very good and explaining so have a look here...

 

"Holding the Bible as the complete and only divine revelation, we strongly believe that God is eternally one and also eternally the Father, the Son, and the Spirit, the three being distinct but not separate. We hold that Christ is both the complete God and the perfect man. Without abandoning His divinity, He was conceived in the womb of a human virgin, lived a genuine human life on earth, and died a vicarious and all-inclusive death on the cross. After three days He resurrected bodily and has ascended to the heavens. He is now in glory, fully God but still fully man. We look to His imminent return with the kingdom of God, by which He will reign over the earth in the millennium and in eternity. We confess that the third of the Trinity, the Spirit, is equally God. All that the Father has and is, is expressed by the Son; and all that the Son has and is, is realized as the Spirit. We further believe that mankind is in need of God's salvation. Though we were absolutely unable to fulfill the heavy demands of God's righteousness, holiness, and glory, Christ fulfilled all the requirements through His death on the cross. Because of Christ's death, God has forgiven us of our sins, reconciled us to Himself, and justified us by making Christ our righteousness. Based on Christ's redemption, God regenerates the redeemed with His Spirit to consummate His salvation, that they may become His children. Now possessing God's life and nature, the believers enjoy a daily salvation in His Body in this age and the eternal salvation in the coming age and in eternity. In eternity we will dwell with God in the New Jerusalem, the consummation of God's salvation of His elect."

 

From http://www.lsm.org

 

cheers

[aloneme]

I believe in God and Jesus.Yes ,I believe.

[Reflectionist]

So your saying that because I don't believe in something that you do I should kill myself? That's plain ignorance

 

Sure!

 

What's the point in living, if there's no God? It's all very insignificant then, isn't it?

[Jeezy]

Sure!

 

What's the point in living, if there's no God? It's all very insignificant then, isn't it?

 

I think this thread is going way to far right now! That's some serious discussion and it's not even funny anymore!

[Reflectionist]

Dude...

 

who said I was trying to be funny?

 

I was being completely serious.

[Jeezy]

^^ Yeah. But I don't think it's cool to tell somebody to kill himself just because he doesn't believe in God or Jesus!

[Fall_And_Faint]

Well thing is-

 

If they're right, yeah they'll be okay in the end.

 

But If we're right and God and Jesus do exist, then. . .they won't be so good in the end. .

 

I can only hope one day they will see it.

[djwakka]

And I'm sure "God" wanted you all to insult other religions and "defend" your own. Let people believe in what they want. Don't inflict your religion on other people regardless how right you may think it is. Because in every single post I've seen supporting a Christian thesis in this thread, it speaks as if God is real, Jesus is fo rizzle, and how religions like atheism, Muslim, and Islamic ones are wrong. You're speaking as if it's all true, when in fact, these so-called truths are against other peoples' beliefs.

 

I don't think the Bible tells you to live close-minded lives, does it? Christianity is a wonderful religion. But nowadays, people are using it as a weapon to get Republicans into office, Bush as president, and a reason to rage war in the Middle East.

 

I find it extremely hypocritical that you say how the Qu'Ran tells people to kill all non-Muslims and then you post how if you don't believe in God, you should just drop dead.

[Fall_And_Faint]

Well if there are chirstians doing things like that then they sure ain't right with God

 

I don't think you should die if you don't believe in God, Just what happens when you die tho if there is no God?

[Fall_And_Faint]

In all honesty, If ya think about it this kinda makes sense-

 

The Lord has the Word-Bible

 

And even Satan believes in the Bible, he knows theres a God and Hates him, as well as us because we are made in God's Image

 

What Satan can not destroy he will Confuse.

 

Now If you don't believe in God or Jesus Im not directing this at you, but if you do Believe and read the Bible and so forth.

 

Then dosent it make sense that everythings so confusing because the Devil is trying to mix up everything about the Bible and Religion?

 

If I've offended you by this statement Im sorry but Im just trying to get my point across

[Reflectionist]

And I'm sure "God" wanted you all to insult other religions and "defend" your own. Let people believe in what they want. Don't inflict your religion on other people regardless how right you may think it is. Because in every single post I've seen supporting a Christian thesis in this thread, it speaks as if God is real, Jesus is fo rizzle, and how religions like atheism, Muslim, and Islamic ones are wrong. You're speaking as if it's all true, when in fact, these so-called truths are against other peoples' beliefs.

 

I don't think the Bible tells you to live close-minded lives, does it? Christianity is a wonderful religion. But nowadays, people are using it as a weapon to get Republicans into office, Bush as president, and a reason to rage war in the Middle East.

 

I find it extremely hypocritical that you say how the Qu'Ran tells people to kill all non-Muslims and then you post how if you don't believe in God, you should just drop dead.

 

Uh... what is your point?

 

Are you... putting down the whole religion because of George Bush? Please, man. That guy couldn't find his ass with both hands with a map.

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

If you dont believe in god dosent meen u should kill yourself,if you dont believe god still loves you. If people dont have god they use other thing/religions to fill up there life.

 

And to jezzys comment:

 

How the hell can this discusiton appear funny?

its just a discussion of opinions.

[Reflectionist]

It won't fill up their life. They'll spend the rest of it, believing they're full. But you don't know until you get it, do you?

 

I have a question: If this is all just a matter of opinions, and no religion is real at all... then.... why does it exist? What's the point?

 

Usually a religion explains an idea such as the afterlife, if such a thing exists. Its to make us believe that there's hope beyond what we have here. So if there is no hope beyond what we have here, what reason do we have for living?

 

Honestly.

 

 

And sorry, Wakka, did you reply to what I said about Islam being a lie no matter which way you slice it?

 

And nobody every did reply to my looking for Bible contradictions. I guess there just aren't any anyway.

 

Whatever.

[KillMeImIrish]

Uh... what is your point?

 

Are you... putting down the whole religion because of George Bush? Please, man. That guy couldn't find his ass with both hands with a map.

 

 

ok, well "man".. you seriously aren't acting like a christian. if we're supposed to strive to be like Jesus, why are you criticizing others when they disagree with you? i don't recall reading about Jesus being a jerk and getting mad when others disagreed with Him. chill. it's ok if they don't believe what you do. worry about yourself. you'll be fine when you die, they won't. yeah, you want to witness so they WILL be fine when they die, but the way you're "witnessing" hasn't lead anyone to Christ yet, so maybe it's time to find a new strategy. and when you do criticize, at least do it with love.