This needs to be said.

[stupidsoul1]

I think some people in Australia have the right to say life sucks.

 

I have a friend who has two mental illnesses, 3 jobs, she is 17 engaged to a 34 year old.

She has to family, her fiance has no job, she passed out the other week.

 

 

 

We may be in a place that has it all, but it doesn't mean we actually do.

 

I complain and whine alot about my life, but i can't help it.

[LPGotLinkinPark]

When you said that people who are depressed & hate life should just think positive to help them get over, not everyone can. The whole state of being depressed makes you take everything negatively. Plus it's a completely different situation than poor people or third world countries. I think it's pretty selfish for you to say that anyone that says that is just being selfish, cause it's a lot more than that. & if you really had a bad case of depression, you would see that. I just don't see how people can compare things like that because it's just not the same situation. & most of the time people who say that mean the situations their in suck & they hate them, which the situations are part of life. & even if someone in a third world country said life sucks, they're being wrong too. They have things to live for. If they didn't, I don't think they'd keep themselves alive or continue to have children, so obviously they enjoy some part of life, too. But whatever you think is ok, that's just my opinion on it.

[Cyro]

I'm not telling them what should make them sad' date=' mad, happy or anything. I'm telling them to stop taking for granted what they DO have, because they're lucky to have it.[/quote']

 

I know, there's just more to it than that. Alot more.

[Sygy]

omg!!! get over yourself!!!

 

what pain you experiance is not even close to what ppl in thoses countries go through. women in those countries get gang raped by men infront of their kids, men get shot infront of their familys and they fear for their lives everyday, they have no food and they have to drink water wich is dirty and could kill them after walking hundreds of mils to get it.

 

maybe when you go over there your dad should leave you there for a couple of months and then maybe you would see how good your life is and you will wanna come back, then maybe just maybe you will stop and think that your very lucky compared to others in poor countries.

 

excuse me but are you me? no. so how do you know how bad i feel?

[allieking]

excuse me but are you me? no. so how do you know how bad i feel?

 

 

i don't know how you feel but there is no way your problems can be compared to people who live in say africa and places like that. you have a house, food, clean water and you don't fear for your life everyday. yes you may have problems just like 90% of people in the world but its insane to compare them to ppl who are in the middle of wars and famine. i'm sorry if i offended you but you need to sit back and think how lucky you are.

[Stenners]

Calm down, this isnt a contest u shouldnt be comparing ur pain to others and rather then argueing over who has it worse u should try to make each other feel better.

[azemkamikaze03]

my life is worse than all of yours...sike

 

i complain alot..its my way of venting i dont care if people listen or not.. i mean like my life in my opinion could be better but i mean so what...at least im not like misery said broke leaving in a garbage dump in africa or something.

[Sygy]

fuck this shit and fuck everyone on here.

[Cyro]

fuck this shit and fuck everyone on here.

 

I agree with that.

[allieking]

why whats wrong with ppl on here?, someone told the truth. yes lots of ppl on here have problems and yes we all try to help, but most of their problems are fixable. misery was just pointing out the fact that we should be thankfull for what we have because there are millions of people out there who would kill for any of your lives.

[Heart_LP]

It's true Matt. We should apprecaite what we have. But eventhough, ppl just cant be happy 24/7. everyone has their bad days and I'm sure that you feel down when crappy things happens to you, I mean that's what makes us human.

Maybe it's a bit too much when ppl say that life sucks but I'm sure that they dont really mean it cause if they would, they wouldn't be "back to normal" the next day. It has just become like a usuall phrase to say these days.

Some people like to go on about their problems but I think it's ok because they have the right to express themselves. Why should ppl bottle up all their feelings than they can let it out? some ppl call it whining but it's not really. Dont tell me that you've never felt that you had someone that supported you, stood behind you and everything you did or say. I'm certain that even for a sec, everyone has felt this.

 

I also agree that some ppl just get stuck with their problems and deny to get on with their lives and those kind of ppl need help cause maybe they just feel tired ti get on with their lives. Maybe they are not strong enough to accept reality.

 

Everything has a reason and everyone are different and we cant expect things from ppl. They are just the way they are.

[Hyper]

why whats wrong with ppl on here?' date=' someone told the truth. yes lots of ppl on here have problems and yes we all try to help, but most of their problems are fixable. misery was just pointing out the fact that we should be thankfull for what we have because there are millions of people out there who would kill for any of your lives.[/quote']

 

*sigh* it's only the truth in some people's eyes. Saying "I hate life, it sucks." is an expression. Matt said to quit saying it. That's the basis of this entire thread. Go back and read his first post if you need a refresher on that. No doubt, there's people who have it a lot harder than you, a lot harder than me, and a lot harder than Sygy. However, that's not what the initial post was saying.

 

It was the use of the phrase "I hate life." So this just goes back to people's interpretation. I think the phrase has been watered down so much by society {at least around where I live} that it carries no real meaning. It's just like saying "I love you." at age sixteen.

 

Anyways, I am thankful for what I have. And I do and will continue to say I hate life, when I do. When stuff goes terribly wrong, I am positive nobody here can say they're thinking about the little kids in Africa. No, they're thinking about themselves. Which is selfish, yes, but everybody does it. Don't even try to tell me that you're always thinking about the little starving kids. There are times when you're in extreme ecstasy, or depression, or anger, that you will not think about them. So maybe you should be a little less hypocritical? Sure, you probably don't express your emotions the same way as those who say "I hate life" but you are just as guilty in the selfish area as they are.

[Heart_LP]

It was the use of the phrase "I hate life." So this just goes back to people's interpretation. I think the phrase has been watered down so much by society {at least around where I live} that it carries no real meaning. It's just like saying "I love you." at age sixteen.

That's definately for sure.

[Friðbjörn]

Calm down' date=' this isnt a contest u shouldnt be comparing ur pain to others and rather then argueing over who has it worse u should try to make each other feel better.[/quote']

I don't know about you guys, but I say we listen to Matt. Wise words these.

 

why whats wrong with ppl on here?' date=' someone told the truth. yes lots of ppl on here have problems and yes we all try to help, but most of their problems are fixable.[/quote']

You can disagree alright, but I say whether those problems are fixable is up for debate.

 

 

 

 

In general, thinkin about your own problems can be considered selfish, it probably is.

But, you can't help others get better with their lives, unless you fix yourself first. That's how I see it. Now of course, if that's not possible, that's a bit of a problem.

 

Like, say a person has no will to live anymore, then if they are going to try to help the needing people in the third world countries for example, they're going to have to fix their own problem first. If they continue to have no will to live they won't give a shit about people in the 3rd world.

Okay, bad example perhaps or whatever.

Bottom line, it doesn't help anyone or anything to ban people to think of their own perhaps small problems, aside from that will never be done.

Besides that, thinkin about other people's problems doesn't help anyone. If you don't do something, you might as well be thinkin about yourself all the time, and then it really doesn't matter.

[Victim]

I recently have thought my life sucks many times.. But its not when I am in my normal state of mind.. It is when I am up set... I have lost alot in my life over the last couple of months.. Things I'm sure third world country kids don't have... I thank God everyday for where I was born.. Don't call me selfish.. Because you don't know me and you haven't lived my life.. Nor have you lived the life of the third world country kids.. I wish I could do something to help them.. But beeing as young as I am now.. It will just have to wait acouple of years.. For now.. just let me grow up.. Most people in my city right now should be happy just to have a house consider most cities around us there aren't many houses standing..

 

I'm sure many people in New Orleans can say there lives suck.. They lost everything they ever had.. Do you know whats that is like? We grew up in a society that is used to having what they want when they want it.. Not one where where all we have is the few happy moments that we get to experience... We weren't brought up to think like that.. So you cannot call anyone selfish for not thinking about the little kids starving when they are upset... Because you don't know us.. You only know us for what we type on out little keyboards..

 

There are times now when I just get so upset and I just hate my life at that moment.. But when I have my time later to think and to clam down.. I am truely thankful that I don't have to experience what those people do in Africa and in South America...and that I have something to live and that I had a house standing when I came home...Unlike some many people 30 minutes south of me.. But its not like its on my mind 24/7.. and it shouldn't...I should guilt my self for the life I have.. We are all blessed in our own ways.. whether some people have the brains to realize it or not..

 

Those are my thoughts.. don't bash me for it.. Because I don't care if you think I'm selfish or a bitch or what not..

[Heart_LP]

I kinda agree with you Fri but well, I have always believed that we humans are made for eachother because it's in our nature. You'll see that no human being can live alone and if it would be so, then it would be probably because of depression. Therefore, it's good to help in eachother enough if you're life isn't that great at the moment but we need eacother and some ppl are just to busy thinking about themselves instead thinking about others too.

[Friðbjörn]

Good point Sammi.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh and, I did not at all mean we should all just sit down and think of ourselves and not give a shit about others, that's far from what I meant, just to be clear.

[Hyper]

So something just clicked in my head.

 

You could look at third world countries through a different lense. In a sense they do have it better than some of us. They spend their days worrying about food, water, and war, that they don't have the opportunity to feel the pain that some of us experience. They don't have to go through believing they've fallen in love, and then getting their heart wrenched out. They don't have to deal with sudden depression realizing they've got no real shot at becoming a better friend to someone. Why? Because they're preoccupied with their other more, necessary issues.

 

So in a sense, the poverty they live in shields them from what we consider "every day life" and the drama that is associated with it.

 

Of course, if you say this is not true, then your arguements about them having to worry about their lives, food, water, and war, hold no bearing.

[stupidsoul1]

*claps* Hyper, you have the most thoughtful and sense making post in this whole three pages.

[misery]

I recently have thought my life sucks many times.. But its not when I am in my normal state of mind.. It is when I am up set... I have lost alot in my life over the last couple of months.. Things I'm sure third world country kids don't have... I thank God everyday for where I was born.. Don't call me selfish.. Because you don't know me and you haven't lived my life.. Nor have you lived the life of the third world country kids.. I wish I could do something to help them.. But beeing as young as I am now.. It will just have to wait acouple of years.. For now.. just let me grow up.. Most people in my city right now should be happy just to have a house consider most cities around us there aren't many houses standing..

 

I'm sure many people in New Orleans can say there lives suck.. They lost everything they ever had.. Do you know whats that is like? We grew up in a society that is used to having what they want when they want it.. Not one where where all we have is the few happy moments that we get to experience... We weren't brought up to think like that.. So you cannot call anyone selfish for not thinking about the little kids starving when they are upset... Because you don't know us.. You only know us for what we type on out little keyboards..

 

There are times now when I just get so upset and I just hate my life at that moment.. But when I have my time later to think and to clam down.. I am truely thankful that I don't have to experience what those people do in Africa and in South America...and that I have something to live and that I had a house standing when I came home...Unlike some many people 30 minutes south of me.. But its not like its on my mind 24/7.. and it shouldn't...I should guilt my self for the life I have.. We are all blessed in our own ways.. whether some people have the brains to realize it or not..

 

Those are my thoughts.. don't bash me for it.. Because I don't care if you think I'm selfish or a bitch or what not..

People that were involved in tragedies like New Orleans where they lost everything have a legitimate reason for saying their life sucks. But people who, for example, just broke up with their girlfriend, or have no friends at school or little things like that are just acting selfish saying that their life sucks.

 

That's the point I was trying to make with this thread.

[azemkamikaze03]

So something just clicked in my head.

 

You could look at third world countries through a different lense. In a sense they do have it better than some of us. They spend their days worrying about food, water, and war, that they don't have the opportunity to feel the pain that some of us experience. They don't have to go through believing they've fallen in love, and then getting their heart wrenched out. They don't have to deal with sudden depression realizing they've got no real shot at becoming a better friend to someone. Why? Because they're preoccupied with their other more, necessary issues.

 

So in a sense, the poverty they live in shields them from what we consider "every day life" and the drama that is associated with it.

 

Of course, if you say this is not true, then your arguements about them having to worry about their lives, food, water, and war, hold no bearing.

 

 

Yes, but think about it. Im pretty sure they have internal conflicts. Imaagine being a father who has to walk miles to get a gallon of water for his kids. he comes home and watches his own families life just waste away and he knows he cannot do anything to prevent it. That has to take a toll on a man. I mean obviously if it came down to it I'd choose this life I currently have versus a life in poverty and a virtual hell. Where I must wake up everyday and pray the peice of bread I get wont have a freaking moldy spot on it. There is not comparing of third world countries to our lives. We have it so good and somehow find room to complain. It's the reason why there is so much violence and war in the world today. It's ashame that we have people who try to justify their reasons for being so upset in life and trying to make it seem worse than kids in haiti or Africa. Seriously life may suck. Its your choice to let it swallow or spit.

[stupidsoul1]

Matt-sorry the thread didn't work out the way you were intending

Azem- Nice words bro, nice words.

[Stenners]

At the end of the day if you have problems you shouldn't expect sympathy from anyone really but by the same token you shouldn't be hated on either. When someone is unhappy about something unless you have something worth while or helpful to say then it's better to stay out of it entirley as you will be stepping on sensetive ground as we have seen on this topic. But if your upset you shouldnt be comparing your pain to others like its some contest in order to try and attract more attention, it makes people think that your just attention seeking and that angers people so by doing so your just opening you up to alot of backlash that will make u feel worse rather then better. And remember NEVER tell people trying to help to 'Fuck Off' and so on, they are trying to help and you should respect that no matter how little it helps they dont know you personally therefor dont know how sensetive you are to certain comments and you shouldn't expect them to know how sensetive you are. At the end of the day its better give support and leave the more detailed help to the proffesionals, close freinds and family and not E-buddies as it usualy does more bad then good and many people dont like being put in a personal posistion when they dont know the person personally.

[KillMeImIrish]

^ well said, my friend... well said.

[Hyper]

Yes' date=' but think about it. Im pretty sure they have internal conflicts. Imaagine being a father who has to walk miles to get a gallon of water for his kids. he comes home and watches his own families life just waste away and he knows he cannot do anything to prevent it. That has to take a toll on a man. I mean obviously if it came down to it I'd choose this life I currently have versus a life in poverty and a virtual hell. Where I must wake up everyday and pray the peice of bread I get wont have a freaking moldy spot on it. There is not comparing of third world countries to our lives. We have it so good and somehow find room to complain. It's the reason why there is so much violence and war in the world today. It's ashame that we have people who try to justify their reasons for being so upset in life and trying to make it seem worse than kids in haiti or Africa. Seriously life may suck. Its your choice to let it swallow or spit.[/quote']

 

 

Okay, I'll look at it your way. If there is no comparing our lives to third world countries then this argument wouldn't exist. Simply saying "You've got it better than those in a third world country." is, in fact, comparing our lives to the lives of those who live in povety. Saying you'd choose the life you have now over that of one in poverty is comparing the two.

 

Your argument is they have to worry about getting moldy bread. A father watching his family waste away. Which we don't have to deal with. Which, in essence, isn't true. There are bums out there who are physically and/or mentally incapable of holding down a life. Sure, they probably don't have a family to take care of, but taking care of yourself is just as important as taking care of a family.

 

My argument is they don't have to deal with what we do. Which is true. They don't have to deal with the social issues we have to deal with. We don't have to deal with the physical issues they have to deal with.

 

But, if we're not comparing the two, like you suggested, then both of us are wrong.