Clogz Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 I'm pro-choice....as in its YOUR choice to have SEX. The consequences of that choice are your problem, and you just have to take responsibility for that. Getting pregnant is not just an 'oops', that is VERY serious consequence of a VERY serious decision. Remember that people, because we seem to live in a world that believes we can simply take a 'mulligan' on life. 1 Quote And then I felt chills in my bones / The breath I saw was not my own I knew my skin that wrapped my frame / Wasn't made to play this game XXI
acdcrules04 Posted July 6, 2006 Posted July 6, 2006 I'm Pro-Choice, a woman's uterus is her business. The only thing that makes me mad about abortion is the women that have more than one... like you guys said, masturbation is key. But I think that if the baby can't be cared for it should have to suffer here for it's parents mistakes. Personally, I don't think I would have one, I would give up the kid for adoption, only because I've heard that women have had abortions and it ruins their 'downstairs' and they can't have kids after that. 1 Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/bb2dcf01aaef6417df375864d8457158.gif myspace|peta2
FireHawk Posted July 7, 2006 Author Posted July 7, 2006 I'm pro-choice....as in its YOUR choice to have SEX. The consequences of that choice are your problem, and you just have to take responsibility for that. Getting pregnant is not just an 'oops', that is VERY serious consequence of a VERY serious decision. Remember that people, because we seem to live in a world that believes we can simply take a 'mulligan' on life. That post right there is an awsome post if you are debating or telling a child an important lesson. Quote Please when you see spam just click the http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/4b273718b96672a5cde873c5a972756e.gif graphic and type "Spam" into the text box then click report. Its better than complaining and goes straight to the mods.
LPGirl Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 I'm Pro-Choice' date=' a woman's uterus is her business.[/quote'] i fully agree with you. i think abortion is okay, expescially if the women was rape, incest, no money, sick, or is a teenager. just because women get pregnant i don't think that we should have a baby. its a very big deal carry a baby for 9 months, then having to go threw 6 or more hours of unbearable pain, all the emotions and having to take care of a child for the rest of your life. its a VERY big deal. just because people are old enough for sex it doesnt always mean there old enough to deal with the responsibilities of having a baby. if i got pregnant now i would abort, and if was unlucky enough to kept getting pregnant i would keep aborting until i think im at the right point in my life to have a baby*ie. mentally in the right frame of mind, have a home, loving husband, enough money* for those people who say "omgz omgz its murder its murder" ITS NOT MURDER if you do it before 8 weeks its not. at 8 weeks "it" does have a heartbeat, or can breath*either one* but before that its just cells, not even the size of a jelly bean. Quote
azemkamikaze03 Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 Not to pick on you Im just starting with you. i think abortion is okay, expescially if the women was rape, incest, no money, sick, or is a teenager. Well. If your raped, adoption. I mean it might be tough for a child but I mean its better than just killing him off. Incest, the same thing. If your broke, sick, or are a teenager its called using your brain. If like you get financially struck during pregnancy...im sure u have family members who could take care of the child or give him up for adoption. I mean the kid will get to live a life. We got to have a life and were not denied it why should they. And as for rape. The majority of people raped are young girls who have just barely hit puberty and canot reproduce or have a small chance. just because women get pregnant i don't think that we should have a baby. its a very big deal carry a baby for 9 months, then having to go threw 6 or more hours of unbearable pain, all the emotions and having to take care of a child for the rest of your life. its a VERY big deal. Thats why you wait to have sex. Until your ready. You just don't go hmm Lets get pregnant and if I don't like it then I mean well just through whatever has developed away. Thats essentially whats being done. When I was born. My parents were dead broke. What did my dad do? He joined the military and they payed for everything. Did he like war and fighting? No he hates it but he took on whatever responsibilities he could becuase that what he and mom agreed on doin when she got pregnant. just because people are old enough for sex it doesnt always mean there old enough to deal with the responsibilities of having a baby. That's why we have condoms. They work if used properly if i got pregnant now i would abort, and if was unlucky enough to kept getting pregnant i would keep aborting until i think im at the right point in my life to have a baby*ie. mentally in the right frame of mind, have a home, loving husband, enough money* That is possibly the most grotesque thing I have ever read in my life. As soon as the seed is planted its called pregnancy. Thats officially when your pregnent. that means u have a baby developing in you. Sure it cannot do everything a human can but its in you. Its developing. Its real. It makes you hungry. Its a living human depending on you for its growth and development. That is insane to hear that you'd just keep throwing away potential glamourous lives just becuase your not ready. Use a condom or something be sensible its sickening to hear something like that. I mean its one thing to hear someone say oh well i'd do it once but not repeatedly. At least they have a heart but comeon dude. Thats just insane. for those people who say "omgz omgz its murder its murder" ITS NOT MURDER if you do it before 8 weeks its not. at 8 weeks "it" does have a heartbeat, or can breath*either one* but before that its just cells, not even the size of a jelly bean. Well hell plants don't breath but they are considered "living organism"(sp) I mean shit, that cell eats. it grows do to nutrition and food. it isnt developed like a human being but niether are animals they just have similarities. I mean one the seed is planted its planted and that means ur pregnant which means you have a baby inside of you. It may not be fully developed but that doesn't give you a right to kill it. Shit we don't kill mentally retarded people becuase their brains are fully developed. Quote ¿whysoserious?
misery Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 i fully agree with you. i think abortion is okay, expescially if the women was rape, incest, no money, sick, or is a teenager. just because women get pregnant i don't think that we should have a baby. its a very big deal carry a baby for 9 months, then having to go threw 6 or more hours of unbearable pain, all the emotions and having to take care of a child for the rest of your life. Besides rape, those are all your responsibility. If you can't deal with the consequences of your actions, then it's your problem. its a VERY big deal. just because people are old enough for sex it doesnt always mean there old enough to deal with the responsibilities of having a baby. if i got pregnant now i would abort, and if was unlucky enough to kept getting pregnant i would keep aborting until i think im at the right point in my life to have a baby*ie. mentally in the right frame of mind, have a home, loving husband, enough money* A person shouldn't have sex unless they can take responsibility for their actions. That's the same thing with everything. If you can't take responsibility for your actions, don't do it. A consequence for having sex can be a baby. Tough shit, it's your own fault. (Once again, I'm excluding rape.) for those people who say "omgz omgz its murder its murder" ITS NOT MURDER if you do it before 8 weeks its not. at 8 weeks "it" does have a heartbeat, or can breath*either one* but before that its just cells, not even the size of a jelly bean. It's still supposed to be a human, and it will be one. You're not even giving it a chance to live. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9403/untitled28ic6.jpg [broken External Image]:http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1118/22wc5.jpg [broken External Image]:http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2756/7mi3.jpg
geeko Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 i agree, because it will be a human after all. but if a person really can't resist the temptation of having sex, he/she might as well try using contraceptives for safer outcomes.it's pretty basic. Quote OUR LAIR. DARE TO ENTER. [broken External Image]:http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/5668/ubda2041ui3.gif
FireHawk Posted July 9, 2006 Author Posted July 9, 2006 i think its okay to use birth control but wants ur pregnent its to late...so live with it Quote Please when you see spam just click the http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/4b273718b96672a5cde873c5a972756e.gif graphic and type "Spam" into the text box then click report. Its better than complaining and goes straight to the mods.
Chris Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 i think its okay to use birth control but wants ur pregnent its to late...so live with it So if you're 19 and you're in college and you're studying for law-school or something and you get pregnant and she wants your advice and you say "ah, just live with it" Thats the biggest Mickey Mouse bullshit ever. So I guess im the only who really doesnt give a shit if a woman puts her child up for adoption or abortion. Its her body. Quote
FireHawk Posted July 9, 2006 Author Posted July 9, 2006 well the women made the mistake live with ur mistakes...my mom was 18 when she had me.... Quote Please when you see spam just click the http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/4b273718b96672a5cde873c5a972756e.gif graphic and type "Spam" into the text box then click report. Its better than complaining and goes straight to the mods.
broken_angel Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 if i was having sex with a boyfriend and the condom split, i would keep the baby. if i was raped...i would either have the baby adopted or abort the baby. I'd abort if the baby if the baby was going to be seriously ill for the rest if it's life and would be in constant pain, or if my pregnancy was endangering my own life. Quote
allieking Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 the word "mistake" shouldn't be used. no child is a mistake even if they are planned or not, my 3 kids were "surprises" and i have never and will never call them a mistake. if you get pregnant then its down to you unless sex was forced upon you. if your stupid enough to have sex and you get pregnant then you should take responsibility for your actions. i mean its not hard to work out that if you have sex you can get pregnant and no contreception is 100% safe except sterilization. Quote [broken External Image]:http://www.inoshishi.co.uk/allie/aa.png
FireHawk Posted July 9, 2006 Author Posted July 9, 2006 sry ur right mistake shouldn't have been said my bad Quote Please when you see spam just click the http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/4b273718b96672a5cde873c5a972756e.gif graphic and type "Spam" into the text box then click report. Its better than complaining and goes straight to the mods.
allieking Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 its ok i just hate it when ppl refer to children as mistakes. children are a gift even if they are not wanted. i was sterilized at 23 because i didn't want to have anymore kids with my abusive ex husband, i wish i could have a baby now with andy because its the only thing we don't have. Quote [broken External Image]:http://www.inoshishi.co.uk/allie/aa.png
misery Posted July 9, 2006 Posted July 9, 2006 So if you're 19 and you're in college and you're studying for law-school or something and you get pregnant and she wants your advice and you say "ah, just live with it" Thats the biggest Mickey Mouse bullshit ever. So I guess im the only who really doesnt give a shit if a woman puts her child up for adoption or abortion. Its her body. Your right. It is her body. But it's not her life that she's taking, it's the baby's. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/9403/untitled28ic6.jpg [broken External Image]:http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1118/22wc5.jpg [broken External Image]:http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2756/7mi3.jpg
azemkamikaze03 Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 Your right. It is her body. But it's not her life that she's taking' date=' it's the baby's.[/quote'] exactly :thumbsup: Quote ¿whysoserious?
FireHawk Posted July 10, 2006 Author Posted July 10, 2006 exactly :thumbsup: i exactly agree with that Quote Please when you see spam just click the http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/4b273718b96672a5cde873c5a972756e.gif graphic and type "Spam" into the text box then click report. Its better than complaining and goes straight to the mods.
GraDoN Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 Abortion is evil.... sex is not ment to be done by every person at every age its a intemit thing between a man and a women. Then their reward is a child they can bring up TOGETHER.... Quote http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/095443c5f5914cdd05b1d389456c201e.jpg http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/8df3638f80a4f010e06ef2c959f426e8.gif http://www.sucksbbs.net/data/MetaMirrorCache/fe80ab99471398f0ef121d8f90c31038.jpg
LPpinkfreak821 Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 for those people who say "omgz omgz its murder its murder" ITS NOT MURDER if you do it before 8 weeks its not. at 8 weeks "it" does have a heartbeat, or can breath*either one* but before that its just cells, not even the size of a jelly bean. Cells... heartbeat... whatever. It's still a human soul that your killing. Think about it from the unborn childs point of view. He/She doesn't get a say in whether he/she lives or dies so If someone came up to you and said that their going to just kill you... you'd like to have a say in that wouldn't you? Whether their fully developed or not it's still a soul. If you kill something with a soul... that's murder. Even though the baby can't tell you him/herself whether he/she would like to be aborted or not still does not make it right. It's soul therfore it's human... IT'S MURDER It does not matter if you are unable to take care of the child. You could always give it up for adoption. & if you THINK you are old enough to have sex then you ARE old enough to deal with consequences. Sex was originally for reproduction... not for pleasure. Deal with your consequences the right way. Don't run from them. If you didn't want to have a baby then use birth control & condoms. Don't have unprotected sex, say "oops" then abort the baby because you aren't responsible enough to take care of it. As Allie said NO BABY IS A MISTAKE. & if you think they are then there is something wrong with you. My mother told me that when she was pregnant with me.. my father left & my sister tried to convince her to get an abortion. She came so close to doing it, but then turned away. Why? Because as she claims "deep down I felt that you were something more then just a few cells. You were a baby. My baby and I couldn't do that to you." Those words remain in my mind. I'll never forget the look on her face. The guilt in her eyes just for ALMOST getting an abortion with me. There was no possible way she could handle another child. The fifth child to be exact. But hey... she did. She didn't go through with the abortion. She had me. That would probably be the reason this subject is heart hitting with me. I love my mother & I KNOW she loves me. She couldn't go thru with an abortion & I dont think I could either. It is murder. All because you can't hear the voice inside of you screaming "Mommy, please don't" does not mean it isn't murder. Think about that. The soul you can't see. The voice you can't hear. The life you just murdered. There are alternatives & abortion doesn't have to be one of them. Adoption is AMAZING, but living up to your responsibility [the same responsiblity you supposedly had to have sex] & keeping the baby is the BEST. Quote When my time comes, forget what the wrong that I've done Help me leave behind reasons to be missed Don't resent me and when you're feeling empty Keep me in your memory [[it isn't an official goodbye, but I'll be gone for long time]]]
Friðbjörn Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 If a foetus doesn't have a heartbeat and a brain until what, 8 weeks or something, then how can it have a soul, if humans actually do have one, or something like it? This thing we call a soul, is really just neurological (word?) activity in our brain. Isn't it via our "soul" that we get angry? When we get angry, it's because of certain chemistry happening in our brain. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
LPpinkfreak821 Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 So I take it you dont' beleive in ghost/spirits? Quote When my time comes, forget what the wrong that I've done Help me leave behind reasons to be missed Don't resent me and when you're feeling empty Keep me in your memory [[it isn't an official goodbye, but I'll be gone for long time]]]
Friðbjörn Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 Yes I do. I do in fact think I have seen some. I however don't believe a body can possess a soul, without a brain. But that's just my opinion. Quote [broken External Image]:http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2784/lpfas08mostintelligentym8.jpg
allieking Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 for those people who say "omgz omgz its murder its murder" ITS NOT MURDER if you do it before 8 weeks its not. at 8 weeks "it" does have a heartbeat, or can breath rarely do women find out they are pregnant before 8 weeks so in most cases of abortion it is a living person. Quote [broken External Image]:http://www.inoshishi.co.uk/allie/aa.png
Chris Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 well the women made the mistake live with ur mistakes...my mom was 18 when she had me.... That was her choice, but some people like to have their children when they're older. Your right. It is her body. But it's not her life that she's taking' date=' it's the baby's.[/quote'] She's taking her own life aswell. Chance of good carees thrown away by a baby. So everybody's talking about souls and all that, so if you 'murder' the baby the soul goes away and finds another body. hey, problem solved. Quote
allieking Posted July 10, 2006 Posted July 10, 2006 That was her choice, but some people like to have their children when they're older. She's taking her own life aswell. Chance of good carees thrown away by a baby. So everybody's talking about souls and all that, so if you 'murder' the baby the soul goes away and finds another body. hey, problem solved. well if you don't want children untill your older........DON'T HAVE SEX!!!! but nooooooo women and men don't think of that because there is always abortion if your not carefull!!!!! Quote [broken External Image]:http://www.inoshishi.co.uk/allie/aa.png
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