LP fans are Emo

[xXMelancholiaXx]

Look at it this way. If Chester dressed like Gerald Way but Linkin Park sounded like Slipknot. Does that make Linkin Park an emo band? That's basically what I'm saying. It's like bands having gothic imagery. It doesn't make them gothic metal/rock just because they dress goth. O.o Just like with bands who employ emo imagery (though I'm not sure what this is) it doesn't make them emo. Imagery and music are two seperate things. Gerald Way could look like Marilyn Manson and do metalcore or death metal.

[Peterdea]

Look at it this way. If Chester dressed like Gerald Way but Linkin Park sounded like Slipknot. Does that make Linkin Park an emo band? That's basically what I'm saying. It's like bands having gothic imagery. It doesn't make them gothic metal/rock just because they dress goth. O.o Just like with bands who employ emo imagery (though I'm not sure what this is) it doesn't make them emo. Imagery and music are two seperate things. Gerald Way could look like Marilyn Manson and do metalcore or death metal.

if they all dress emo, they are emo. even if they don't play emo music, that just makes their music not emo. The people in the band would be emo, so that would make it a band full of emos, or shorter, an emo band

[xXMelancholiaXx]

Okay, I'll give you an example. Black Metal bands dress in what would be considered Gothic attire but they aren't goth. Why? Because the music they play isn't gothic rock or gothic metal see? I'm trying to break down to you as simple as I can. It's about the music that's what determines that genre of the band. See you guys are going by looks to classify bands. You're the type of people who label Marilyn Manson Goth. But he's shock rock. You misconstured how a band looks for their genre of music. I really can't break down no better then that. If you don't get it by now then hey I guess you phail. -shrugs-

[Doodle]

people that cut their wrists for fun just dont turn me on

[Peterdea]

Okay' date=' I'll give you an example. Black Metal bands dress in what would be considered Gothic attire but they aren't goth. Why? Because the music they play isn't gothic rock or gothic metal see? I'm trying to break down to you as simple as I can. It's about the music that's what determines that genre of the band. See you guys are going by looks to classify bands. You're the type of people who label Marilyn Manson Goth. But he's shock rock. You misconstured how a band looks for their genre of music. I really can't break down no better then that. If you don't get it by now then hey I guess you phail. -shrugs-[/quote']

but in a way Marilyn Manson is goth considering most of the goths i know listen to him and everyone else i know pretty much hates him.

Gothic music doesnt just have to fit the description of Gothic Rock/Gothic Metal, if goths are the only group of ppl that realy get into some type of music then would'nt that make it gothic in a way?

i get what your saying now but thats just what i'm thinking.

if someone realy truley definatly is a goth then they are gothic. not necasarily their music. No matter what type of music this Marilyn Manson guy plays, the way he acts will be considered gothic at least to some point.

Music is all genre. I could play emo music and not be emo. only the music i play would be emo.

so in conclusion, just because a band/band member/artist doesnt play emo music, doesnt make them not emo. same with any other kind of people/music.

[HaziLPTonz]

i still dont see why just bcoz someone has a certain fashion sense makes em stereotyped to a genre watever.

 

heres something a frend of mine picked up for me...:

this was from an interview...forget which...

 

"Meanwhile, Panic! singer Brendon Urie is trying to distance the band from being stereotyped as emo, "It's ignorant," he told Britain's New Music Express.

 

"The stereotype is guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are. If you listen to our songs, not one of them has that tone.

 

"Emo is bullshit. If people want to take it for the literal sense of the word, yes we're an emotional band. We put a lot of thought into what we do. People always try to stereotype us, but we don't fit the emo stereotype." "

 

 

like i said,an emo band is a band that plays EMO music,bcoz u look at mcr, and they dont exactly have that emo look,YET we all call them emo.

 

i still laugh everytime someone calls LP emo. ahh well, if lp are tagged with emo by certain pp,they obviously have never listened to LP or no shit about music.

[xXMelancholiaXx]

Tonz']

like i said,an emo band is a band that plays EMO music.

Exactly! Conversely a goth band is a band that play Goth music.

 

but in a way Marilyn Manson is goth considering most of the goths i know listen to him and everyone else i know pretty much hates him.

Gothic music doesnt just have to fit the description of Gothic Rock/Gothic Metal, if goths are the only group of ppl that realy get into some type of music then would'nt that make it gothic in a way?

i get what your saying now but thats just what i'm thinking.

if someone realy truley definatly is a goth then they are gothic. not necasarily their music. No matter what type of music this Marilyn Manson guy plays, the way he acts will be considered gothic at least to some point.

If you were to go to any "real goth," not mallgoths, Mansonites, and spooky kids as they are also called, and start talking about how goth Marilyn Manson is you'd get laughed at. Marilyn Manson is shock rock any "real goth" will take you that. Marilyn Manson is usually the first experience kids have with darker music. So they automatically associate him with goth just because it's darker then most mainstream musicians. You want real Goth? Listen to The Flowing Tears, Forever Slave, Beseech, and Tristania.

[Lyson]

Tonz']i still dont see why just bcoz someone has a certain fashion sense makes em stereotyped to a genre watever.

 

heres something a frend of mine picked up for me...:

this was from an interview...forget which...

 

"Meanwhile, Panic! singer Brendon Urie is trying to distance the band from being stereotyped as emo, "It's ignorant," he told Britain's New Music Express.

 

"The stereotype is guys that are weak and have failing relationships write about how sad they are. If you listen to our songs, not one of them has that tone.

 

"Emo is bullshit. If people want to take it for the literal sense of the word, yes we're an emotional band. We put a lot of thought into what we do. People always try to stereotype us, but we don't fit the emo stereotype." "

 

 

like i said,an emo band is a band that plays EMO music,bcoz u look at mcr, and they dont exactly have that emo look,YET we all call them emo.

 

i still laugh everytime someone calls LP emo. ahh well, if lp are tagged with emo by certain pp,they obviously have never listened to LP or no shit about music.

 

 

True, Brendon isn't kidding with the tone of their music not sounding that way. I love P!ATD and as much as their look suggests emo, i wouldn't put a label on them because their look is very differnet sometimes, hard to label them. MCR however...emo...much...

[Peterdea]

If you were to go to any "real goth' date='" not mallgoths, Mansonites, and spooky kids as they are also called, and start talking about how goth Marilyn Manson is you'd get laughed at. Marilyn Manson is shock rock any "real goth" will take you that. Marilyn Manson is usually the first experience kids have with darker music. So they automatically associate him with goth just because it's darker then most mainstream musicians. You want real Goth? Listen to The Flowing Tears, Forever Slave, Beseech, and Tristania.[/quote']

real goth?

so your saying all the goths i know are not goths just cuz they say marilyn manson is goth? if they call themselves gothic, dress like goths and act like goths they are goths

where i live and all the surrounding areas consider marilyn manson to be gothic, so obviously im going to be led to believe he's gothic. if he's not, well, my mistake but im still gonig to call him gothic as long as all the goths i know listen to him and act like they do.

i get what you mean when you say "Marilyn Manson is usually the first experience kids have with darker music. So they automatically associate him with goth just because it's darker then most mainstream musicians."

that made you points a lot clearer to me and i pretty much misunderstood most of it. sorry about that.

[xXMelancholiaXx]

real goth?

so your saying all the goths i know are not goths just cuz they say marilyn manson is goth? if they call themselves gothic, dress like goths and act like goths they are goths

where i live and all the surrounding areas consider marilyn manson to be gothic, so obviously im going to be led to believe he's gothic. if he's not, well, my mistake but im still gonig to call him gothic as long as all the goths i know listen to him and act like they do.

Exactly. That's why they're called posers. Or Mallgoths or Mansonites (Obsessive Marilyn Manson fans), spooky kids and the like. They listen to Nu Metal bands (Mallcore) like Slipknot, KoRn, and Disturbed and think they're so goth but they're just posers and the real goths are the ones that end up laughing at them. Ask any of them who any of those bands I just mentioned are and they'll draw a blank. They're the equilvant of those scene emo kids that listen to mainstream alternative rock like Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance but don't know anything about real emo.

[Peterdea]

Exactly. That's why they're called posers. Or Mallgoths or Mansonites (Obsessive Marilyn Manson fans)' date=' spooky kids and the like. They listen to Nu Metal bands (Mallcore) like Slipknot, KoRn, and Disturbed and think they're so goth but they're just posers and the real goths are the ones that end up laughing at them. Ask any of them who any of those bands I just mentioned are and they'll draw a blank. They're the equilvant of those scene emo kids that listen to mainstream alternative rock like Taking Back Sunday and My Chemical Romance but don't know anything about real emo.[/quote']

thanks for explaining it to me

sorry for being such a dickhole about it.

[HaziLPTonz]

haha yep, i think its clear, alot of the bands we just mentioned arent emos. just the people who listen to them(which shouldnt detract from the main core of fans). and looking emo doesnt make you emo

[Kanavazk]

So true.

 

(Yeah I'm sort of emo.)

[LP Expert Soldier]

I wouldn't consider myself emo and dress like one, but I do think and feel like emo =X

[dj hahn crazy]

i like rap as well as metal.im a nerd. HOW COULD I BE EMO.(lp rules.)

[Peterdea]

i like rap as well as metal.im a nerd. HOW COULD I BE EMO.(lp rules.)

im a nerd too

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

I reckon thats unfair...

Im not an EMO at all, I liekt hem for contribution to the arts, and ther creativity.