...I have clincal depression?

[Brkng_Th_Hbt]

My Personal Developement class had to do some research on depression and write two paragraphs. So we go into the computer lab and I go to Wiki, first thing.

 

According to the DSM-IV-TR criteria for diagnosing a major depressive disorder (cautionary statement) one of the following two elements must be present for a period of at least two weeks:

 

-Depressed mood, or Anhedonia

It is sufficient to have either of these symptoms in conjunction with five of a list of other symptoms over a two-week period. These include:

-Feelings of overwhelming sadness and/or fear, or the seeming inability to feel emotion (emptiness).

-A decrease in the amount of interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, daily activities.

-Changing appetite and marked weight gain or loss.

-Disturbed sleep patterns, such as insomnia, loss of REM sleep, or excessive sleep (Hypersomnia).

-Psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day.

-Fatigue, mental or physical, also loss of energy.

-Intense feelings of guilt, helplessness, hopelessness, worthlessness, isolation/loneliness and/or anxiety.

-Trouble concentrating, keeping focus or making decisions or a generalized slowing and obtunding of cognition, including memory.

-Recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), desire to just "lie down and die" or "stop breathing", recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide.

-Feeling and/or fear of being abandoned by those close to one.

 

And all of the apply to me is some way. Except I've never tried to commit suicide, and I don't plan too. Though thoughs of suicide have crept into my mind, but I make them go away. The ones in bold apply them most.

 

I'm always sad. Whether it's about the world or people sucking, or whatever. I have no interest in activities like sports or getting excercise. I've had insomnia for quite a while now. I feel pretty much fatigued everyday. I feel guilty, helpless, hopeless, worthless and isolated every day... like I feel that nobody really cares about me, even when they say they do, I feel like once I'm gone they off saying crap behind my back. I really feel like I love my friends WAY more than they they like me, to the point to where I feel like I "know" they do. I have anxiety like all day, but it's more of a depressing anxiety... I'm not hyper and uptight or anything. I do have thoughts of death... like "what would happen if I killed myself" and related thoughts. And the last one really applies... I have this horrid fear of being abandoned by the people I really like. I'm a pretty quite person, I keep to myself and the such. I'm not very open, but I do have an open mind. I've really freaked out my Person Developement teacher... she thinks I'm quite, and that I give strange answers and that I act like I would do a school shooting. I thought it was pretty funny.

 

I just feel horrid every day... I feel worthless and I think I hate myself. I seriously do not like myself, I feel ugly, and I have no self-esteem. I try to have self-esteem, but it doesn't work and I usually end up making myself look like a retard. But while I'm by myself I feel like I know more about life and people than most people, and I actually do. But I can't use that because I'm very naive about everything else. I've a very naive person.

 

Maybe it's a phase, or maybe it's just my sucky personality. I'm not sure if I should get treatment or what. I actually think talking to a pshycologist about my problems might help me... but I want someone to sit down and listen to me and understand me, not just nod and give me medicine, but I don't think I can find that.

 

I just feel like a wreck. Blah. And I had to get all that out.

[LPShinodaFM]

Dude, this stuff is like horoscopes, the more you think about it, the more you'll feel that it applies to you. A few years ago i was obsessed with the idea that i had cancer. I think that you're just a quiet, less active, and having a unique character that some others do not understand. This might just be why you sometimes feel isolated. I congratulate you sincerely for being open minded. And i think that instead of trying to gain self-esteem, maybe you should just you know, not care. Don't care about whether you have self-esteem or what ppl think about you. That will take away a lot of the crap that people give you.

 

But i mean speaking to psycologists is a good idea if you think it would help. Ease yourself a bit and stop *thinking* that you have depression. Cuz it's just a psychological thing, if you don't *think* you have it, then it's all cured. All the best :thumbsup:

[mrsrobourdon]

im a future physcologist hint hint

well my major is physcology and i only need 3 and a half more years to go:]

you can pm me anytime but a graduated physcologist is MUCH better.

 

lp shinoda might be right about what your implying yourself into

did you know 89% of most americans feel that they are in depression but they arent?

 

i use to think i had cancer too

and i also thought i had gonnerhea and aids when i was 15 even tho ive never had sex!

 

anyways wikipedia will help you to see symptoms but you dont actually havee it until youve been checked by a doctor.

 

hope things go better for you.

[Peterdea]

-Depressed mood, or Anhedonia

It is sufficient to have either of these symptoms in conjunction with five of a list of other symptoms over a two-week period. These include:

-Feelings of overwhelming sadness and/or fear, or the seeming inability to feel emotion (emptiness).

-A decrease in the amount of interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, daily activities.

-Changing appetite and marked weight gain or loss.

-Disturbed sleep patterns, such as insomnia, loss of REM sleep, or excessive sleep (Hypersomnia).

-Psychomotor agitation or retardation nearly every day.

-Fatigue, mental or physical, also loss of energy.

-Intense feelings of guilt, helplessness, hopelessness, worthlessness, isolation/loneliness and/or anxiety.

-Trouble concentrating, keeping focus or making decisions or a generalized slowing and obtunding of cognition, including memory.

-Recurrent thoughts of death (not just fear of dying), desire to just "lie down and die" or "stop breathing", recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or a suicide attempt or a specific plan for committing suicide.

-Feeling and/or fear of being abandoned by those close to one.

ouch.... no comment... ... sorry

[Scotty B]

I've really freaked out my Person Developement teacher... she thinks I'm quite, and that I give strange answers and that I act like I would do a school shooting. I thought it was pretty funny.

 

this in its self is a problem, with everything you have said and what you may or may not feel, having a fucking teacher say you "act like you would do a school shooting" is really not the best thing a teacher can say to someone or anyone. teahcers saying these kinds of things probably start of these shootings in the first place. and like LP and mrs.bdn said it may all be in your head you may think you have depression but if you really are that worried about everything that is happening to you good and seek help bottling it up will not help in anyway and ultimatly hurt you and others around you.

[Friðbjörn]

sorry to hear about that all man...

 

but, and I hate to sound patronizing here, I think it'll grow over, go away, however you want to put it. you're what now, 14, 15? I remember thinkin those same thoughts. I feel better now.

 

I mean, of course there's a chance this is something really serious, but I'd really like to hope it's not. And I mean, fear, and other big scary feelings are something we all experience sometime every once in a while. And it's way more often as a teenager. The teen years can be, and are usually, a lot of fun, but they can also be the most difficult period in life.

 

I'm not gonna order you what to do, but I mean, try and keep your spirit up somehow. I mean, you play guitar. If as you say, your friends aren't being friends, then you've at least got music, eh?

and I mean, about the friends. A mind tends to exaggerate signals sometimes...perhaps you think you're being abandoned when in reality it's something else. I've had that happening myself.

[Jeezy]

you just gotta find a way to let those feelings out.....

[Scotty B]

you need to talk to any members of your family that you feel close to or even a stanger that you dont know ok the stranger part maybe not but some one how isnt bias or have divided opinions and that someone who doesnt know you to judge you in any way we can give you support cyberly but not face to face and confrontaion is what you need to beat what ever it is that is eatting you from the inside. (ps no LP pun intended)

[Sygy]

Its good to let things out. But my only concern is that you may be reading too much into things, i find those 'are you depressed' things somewhat innaccurate, because its just so general, people feel a whole diffrent spectrum of emotions when they are depressed like being angry.

Like Fri said, most people do tend to get very depressed round this ages because of all the hormones and the stress of having to be more adult and not being parented over the whole time.

But again, do get it checked out, but not with a doctor because as you said they are more than happy to start proscribing medication. why dont you talk to your parents or another family member or friends. I dont know about the type of place where you live but here in London we have walk in clinics for teenagers with are totally ammonmous (sp) you dont even have to give a name some times. They check you out for free and dont make tou do theray if you dont want to and dont inform your parents, maybe you need to find a place like that. But feel free to talk to me if you want bc i am actually a diganoised depressive who has been to countless therapist and clinics and ill try to be helpful!

[Cloud]

Don't seem to me like your depressed.

If you were then would you seriously have been able to look stuff up about it. Would you seriously have made it to these forums and posted a topic about it.

Your just different. Not hyperactive or anything like that.

At the end of the day, consider yourself lucky. You could be in mental home... Or are you verging towards that? Of course not.

 

Now stop being stupid and smell some coffee. For christ sake.

[diana]

I agree with Frib...

Okay, you're 15, right? I was depressed at that age also...I felt lonely, abandoned...everything...it's just a phase almost every singe teenager go through... It gets better after some time...especially if you find someone (girlfriend...) who is returning the love to you...at least that's what happened to me...I fell in love and everything got better... You just have to wait a bit and keep in your mind that it's gonna get better...

Yeah, I'm something special also...I could see some similarities between us...I'm also quiet and stuff...and weird...lol...

 

Anyway, I don't think you have developed a serious depression...which doesn't mean that you aren't depressed...but it will pass, I'm sure...keep your mind positive! :thumbsup:

Wish you best...

 

Oh, and I'm also here if you ever wanted to talk to someone...I also know a bit about psychology...I'm interested in it and have lessons at school... I also like to listen to people...

[mrsrobourdon]

Don't seem to me like your depressed.

If you were then would you seriously have been able to look stuff up about it. Would you seriously have made it to these forums and posted a topic about it.

Your just different. Not hyperactive or anything like that.

At the end of the day, consider yourself lucky. You could be in mental home... Or are you verging towards that? Of course not.

 

Now stop being stupid and smell some coffee. For christ sake.

 

 

Now stop being stupid and smell some coffee. For christ sake....

that is the worst way to help someone. you arent them so you dont know how they feel so they arent being stupid.

 

there are ALOT of cases where patients have turned themselves in because they have symptoms of a condition due to the fact that they researched a condition they fear they have.

i always wondered why i was always distracted, and why i couldnt concentrate. so i researched wikipedia for a.d.h.d and i had a lot of the symptoms. next thing you know a doctor tells me i have a.d.h.d

 

its great that the person did researching before she assumed things. A number of people have posted threads about how they fear they have a condition,asking other people what they think about.

 

Plus people with depression are not put in a mental home, they are prescribed medication [if needed] or are sent to a physcologist to get therapy.

 

to the thread starter: im glad your asking people, its great to find advice so you can get help as soon as possible.

 

Im sorry but for a soon-to-be-physcologist to read what you said...its pretty hard not to get angry.

[Cloud]

Now stop being stupid and smell some coffee. For christ sake....

that is the worst way to help someone. you arent them so you dont know how they feel so they arent being stupid.

 

there are ALOT of cases where patients have turned themselves in because they have symptoms of a condition due to the fact that they researched a condition they fear they have.

i always wondered why i was always distracted, and why i couldnt concentrate. so i researched wikipedia for a.d.h.d and i had a lot of the symptoms. next thing you know a doctor tells me i have a.d.h.d

 

its great that the person did researching before she assumed things. A number of people have posted threads about how they fear they have a condition,asking other people what they think about.

 

Plus people with depression are not put in a mental home, they are prescribed medication [if needed] or are sent to a physcologist to get therapy.

 

to the thread starter: im glad your asking people, its great to find advice so you can get help as soon as possible.

 

Im sorry but for a soon-to-be-physcologist to read what you said...its pretty hard not to get angry.

 

You will probably be surprised that I'm the one that's right.

The OP is young. This is why I posted what I posted. Life is ahead of the OP and it's not going to be dealt with easily if he/she thinks that they are in depression.

He/she should smell the coffee and stop being stupid, maybe face life head on instead of being moody and hormonal.

[LPShinodaFM]

You will probably be surprised that I'm the one that's right.

The OP is young. This is why I posted what I posted. Life is ahead of the OP and it's not going to be dealt with easily if he/she thinks that they are in depression.

He/she should smell the coffee and stop being stupid, maybe face life head on instead of being moody and hormonal.

 

 

Dude, you might be right, but you should not say that to someone who seriously thinks he has clinical depression. It's difficult for people to just *realize* and *face life*. If it was that easy, then there wouldn't be so many pessimists in life. I'm sure you've been through emotional hardships, and i'm pretty sure you wouldn't have liked it if someone told you to stop being stupid.

[mrsrobourdon]

You will probably be surprised that I'm the one that's right.

The OP is young. This is why I posted what I posted. Life is ahead of the OP and it's not going to be dealt with easily if he/she thinks that they are in depression.

He/she should smell the coffee and stop being stupid, maybe face life head on instead of being moody and hormonal.

 

Ok i know what your trying to say. What your trying to say is exactly right but the way you approach your advice is terrible. Not everyone is strong and will "smell the coffee " as easy as you do. I get a lot of patients who get slapped around by their parents about how they should just "move on" with life. But how is someone supposed to do that if they dont no how to? hence why she/he made a thread about it.

they cant just face life head on if they dont no how to do it simply because they dont have the strength because they look at success very pessimesticly [sp].

[Cloud]

Ok i know what your trying to say. What your trying to say is exactly right but the way you approach your advice is terrible. Not everyone is strong and will "smell the coffee " as easy as you do. I get a lot of patients who get slapped around by their parents about how they should just "move on" with life. But how is someone supposed to do that if they dont no how to? hence why she/he made a thread about it.

they cant just face life head on if they dont no how to do it simply because they dont have the strength because they look at success very pessimesticly [sp].

 

Someone has to make him.her snap to reality. I'm just glad I'm the one to do it.

 

Dude, you might be right, but you should not say that to someone who seriously thinks he has clinical depression. It's difficult for people to just *realize* and *face life*. If it was that easy, then there wouldn't be so many pessimists in life. I'm sure you've been through emotional hardships, and i'm pretty sure you wouldn't have liked it if someone told you to stop being stupid.

 

Someone told me not to be stupid. That's how I get along, I think about it, realise and then deal with it.

 

Brkng_Th_Hbt I hope you read this and take it as advice not a shouting at right, but think about what's going on in life and think about how to move on. Yeah, you will make mistakes but sadly that's life alright.

[Friðbjörn]

Don't seem to me like your depressed.

If you were then would you seriously have been able to look stuff up about it. Would you seriously have made it to these forums and posted a topic about it.

Your just different. Not hyperactive or anything like that.

At the end of the day, consider yourself lucky. You could be in mental home... Or are you verging towards that? Of course not.

 

Now stop being stupid and smell some coffee. For christ sake.

what the fuck's your problem

 

how can you call him stupid when his problems stem from something he has no control over? look, I'd really like to live in this fairy tale dream world you live in, but the reality is that we don't control emotions. don't you think people would be happy all the time if they controlled it?

[Cloud]

What the fucks my problem?

Dear, I have no problems atm so nothing...

 

Of course he has control over it, over depression anyways. Pah this is stupid, seriously dumb. Your post is useless too, there are obviously tings he could do to help him. Yet he chooses to carry on, he should snap out of it!

Wouldn't surprise me if what he claims to have is only minor anyways...

[Friðbjörn]

yeah, that's clearly the reason he feels so bad. he WANTED it.

No.

 

what's dumb, is argueing something that you clearly know very little about.

[Cloud]

YEt if he does what I say he will be fine

[diana]

Of course he has control over it, over depression anyways. Pah this is stupid, seriously dumb. Your post is useless too, there are obviously tings he could do to help him. Yet he chooses to carry on, he should snap out of it!

Wouldn't surprise me if what he claims to have is only minor anyways...

Ummm...actually I believe we can't control what we fell entirely...we maybe can to one point...

So you can't just snap out of it...if you want to do that, it takes a while...you can't just do it ever the night... I think that often our intellect is not stronger that emotions...so we can't really do anything about it...

 

Anyway...I already said what I wanted to, I guess...

[Friðbjörn]

YEt if he does what I say he will be fine

yeah see it just isn't that simple

[xXMelancholiaXx]

Yeah all those descriptions fit me perfectly. But then I already know I have clinical depression as well as Bipolar Disorder. Unlike you though I am a cutter and have tried to kill myself. >_>

[Cloud]

It's not that simple because he is probably over exagerating. He needs a long think of what he is thinking. Everything is in his head... He solves that out he will be ok.

[Brkng_Th_Hbt]

Seriously, I didn't want a fight. Just some advice from my fellow LPFers. And I got that from some of you. And I have tried to make myself stop being depressed and smell some damn coffee, but I end of thinking, why. Why am I even doing that. Trying to face reality. But those symptoms/feelings I posted just overcome that. And to clear some things up, I am male, and I'm 15. I understand that my hormones are probably going crazy and I'm at the age where I'm confused at fuck. And I'm just trying to cope with it and I posted this because... well I'm not sure. I guess I just wanted to know if anyone else feels like that and some advice. But take my first post very seriously. They're not minor problems and symptoms, I feel them very strongly.

 

Thanks for the feedback everyone.