Hardcore kids.

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

3 chords and "I hate my life" sounds like Korn lol

not metal

 

Or that LOL

[Yackiestinger]

in my opinion music is music. Even in metal there are people with just the same amount of talent as in rap. Eg: I'd say slayer. Good music or a good band/rapper/artist comes from how they view music and how they appreciate it. Because you cant say much from a rapper who constantly raps about "drugz n biatches" is a good artist, neither can you when a metal band plays three chord and a song screaming "fuck my life! I hate you all go to fucking hell!"

 

So in my view it depends on the appreciation of music.

 

Fella..you are wrong...

 

"fuck my life! I hate you all go to fucking hell!" and 3 lifeless chords is numetal, and nirvana alike shit.

Read the lyrics of real metal. It's often abstractive, astrologic, about life and death, etc.

 

If you listen to simple plan you'll hear that text above..hehehe

 

ofcourse there are plenty of metal shit such as craddle of filth, dimmu borgir, slipknot, trivium etc

but you can't help it, and you can't generaly say that all (name it)core is crap.

 

It's ovbious that you don't listen that much metal music

[azemkamikaze03]

Sounds bad? So I can say that rap is just poor excuse for "music" for those who can't sing, just recitating some text about cars, bitchez with big boobs, wannabe gangsta wanksta shit??

But I won't say that cuz I'm not narrowminded, and I listen to old school rap which is really cool!

Nowadays, rap is dead. Metal is rising.

Flow in rap generally sucks major ass. Only a few exceptions.

Well the way I see it is that rap is more appreciated for its cars, misogyny, wannabe gangsta wanksta(lol) shitthan metal(which isnt rising if anything its stuck in standstill.) Either way rap still has more lyrical variety than (__insert random trend__)core. Which if rap is dead, is very embarrassing.

 

I decided to look into some of these bands to at least get an idea of their lyrical styles. Because maybe, I figured, I was wrong and I need proof.

 

 

Beneath The Massacre

Mechanics Of Dysfunction[2007]

The Surface

This is the sound of human waste. Worshiping the new leaders of destruction.

Spilling blood... No more: Pain nor hope. We don't care, the end is near.

It's falling down. This is life, this is pain. This is real, this is hell.

This path leads us nowhere yet we keep following.

This path leads us to what we always have feared.

This path leads us to this world's fatal destiny.

This is the path that'll end it all by tomorrow. The sound of human waste.

Can't you hear the voices of a thousand victim: The new world order makes no compromise.

Spilling blood... No more: Pain nor hope.

We don't care. The end is near. It's falling down. Breeding murder.

 

Death By Stereo

If Looks Could Kill I'd Watch You Die

Sticks & Stones

all of my own free will

its not some mindless thrill

ive got my head on straight

and i aint gonna wait for mindless threat

an intent to injure

an intent to hurt that i dont sweat

sticks & stones.

come on and break my bones.

why do you even try?

youve burned all your time

and all your bridges too

and all the love,you fuck.

you can silence some of the people some of the time

but you cant control their minds

you can staple my mouth,you can gouge my eyes

making a fist can never take away this

you can knock my teeth out

you and your little boy scouts

making a fist will never take away this

sticks & stones

come on and break my bones

youve burned all the time and love you fuck

Death By Stereo

Hippie Holocaust

no you cant no you cant

you can not save you

no you cant no you cant

you can not save you

its a death the death of your kind

Hippie Holocaust your blood is mine

 

AHHH!!!

 

(lol thats actually the song)

 

Um, to be fair there is a band that HS listed that is a little different...

 

See You Next Tuesday

Good Christians Don't Get Jiggy With It 'Til After Marriage

Oh dear piano player

can't you just play that tune for us one more time

can't you just pull your shit together just one more time

then we could dance this horrible night away

and we'll keep the rhythm of this song

with the motions of our hands on each other's bodies

and the way our lips will move saying sweet nothings

the straight black and white feeling has faded into a burning shade of gray

 

overall thoes about 90 percent of what biased bands i've never heard of that i just randomly picked from this thread or what google had to offer pretty much had these same kind of lyrics.

Actually there was a song titled im gunna fuck a fish or something and it sound like...lol it might be different. Only it ended up being...not different and about someones heart rotting due to past love issues.

 

um but hey i cant give one side without givin the other.

ill bring out the mainstream team of rappers.

 

50 (curtisjackson) cent

Get Rich or Die Trying

In Da Club

 

(unfortunately rap songs have more lyrics so I'm not going to point out all the lyrics)

When I pull out up front, you see the Benz on dubs

When I roll 20 deep, it's 20 knives in the club

Niggas heard I fuck with Dre, now they wanna show me love

When you sell like Eminem, and the hoes they wanna fuck

But homie ain't nothing change ho's down, G's up

I see Xzibit in the Cutt that nigga roll that weed up

If you watch how I move you'll mistake me for a playa or pimp

Been hit wit a few shells but I dont walk wit a limp

In the hood, in L.A. they saying "50 you hot"

They like me, I want them to love me like they love 'Pac

But holla in New York them niggas'll tell ya I'm loco

And the plan is to put the rap game in a choke hold

I'm feelin' focused man, my money on my mind

I got a mill out the deal and I'm still on the grind

Now shawty said she feeling my style, she feeling my flow

Her girlfriend wanna get bi and they ready to go

 

50 Cent

The Massacre

Ryder Music

Here's a taste of my life, its bitter and sweet

I put my heart out to the sounds of the drums and the beat

I put my life on the line when I'm out on the street

Put my teflon on and roll with my heat

I keep my circle nice and small, I don't fuck with these clown

*****s

In a race for the cheese, I run laps around *****s

Soon as I step on stage, the crowd applauds

Soon as my sneaker wear in stores, Reebok start sore

I ain't gotta say I'm a boss, *****s can tell

The east coast crib, the size of a small hotel

The shit journalist write about me, get me confused

Have me feelin' like the heavy weight champ when he lose

I read somewhere, I'm homophobic shiiit

Go through the hood, there's mad *****s on my dick

Now we can get hostile or we can do this smooth

T&T around, I can still make blow move

Nas feat Jay Z

Hip Hop Is Dead

Black Republican

 

Jay's Verse:

Huddlin' over the oven, we was like brothers then (What?)

Though you was nothin' other than a son of my mother's friend

We had governin', who would of thought the love would end

Like ice cold album, all good things

Neva thought we sing the same song that all hood sang

Thought it was all wood-grain, all good brain

You wouldn't bicker like the other fools talk good game

Neva imagine all the disasters that one could reign

Could bring!, should bling, the game, and I could

It's kill or be killed, how could I refrain?

And forever be in debt, that's never a good thing

To the pressure for success can put a good strain

On a friend you call best, and yes it could bring

Out the worst in every person, even the good's insane

Though we rehearsed, it's just ain't the same

When you put in the game at age sixteen

Then you mix things: like cars, jewelry, and miss things

Jealousy, ego, and pride, and this brings

It all to a head like coin, cha-ching

The rule of evil strikes again, this could sting

Now the team got beef between the Post and the Point

This puts the ring in jeopardy - indefinitely

Nas's Verse:

I'm back in the hood, they like, "Hey Nas" (Uh)

Blowin' on purp', reflectin' on they lives

Couple of fat cats, couple of A.I.'s

Dreamin' of fly shit instead of them gray skies

Gray 5's, hate guys wishin' our reign dies

Pitch, sling pies, and niggas they sing, "why"?

Guess they ain't strong enough to handle their jail time

Weak minds, keep tryin', follow the street signs

I'm standin' on the roof of my building

I'm feelin' - the whirlwind of beef, I inhale it

Just like an acrobat ready to hurl myself though the hoops of fire

Sippin' 80 proof, bulletproof under my attire

Could it be the forces of darkness, against hood angels of good

That forms street politics - makes a sweet honest kid

Turn illegal for commerce - to get his feet out of them Converse

That's my word

 

one more

 

JIBBS

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

I'm hot kid

Chains so low you would think that diamonds never stop it

And it's funny cause you could never stop it

A bunch of rocks on my hand n I ain't even on the block yet

Show em white gold sorta hold em like my tims

And a chain hang 24 inches like the rims

Diamonds all blown up yeah sorta like a pimp

So when I like hit the ice

It starts glistening off the tims (off the tims)

 

My chain hang

All it do is blang blang

Half blue, half red

Like my diamonds gang bang

And don't even think\

We on the same thing

Charms so heavy they couldn't lift it till the crane came

 

 

 

my point? even 50 cent and Jibbs had more diversity in their music. If anything metal is dead. Well actually it is. There is a few bands that do some goodness and I like them, but overall this whole core thing. i obviously dont listen to much of this core shit becuase that's all im getting. and if is going good then i get things with ear shattering screams.

 

bands like craddle of filth, dimmu borgir, slipknot, trivium are supposed to be the basic idea of what the genre is. they are who made it and who is the most popular. so ill give it to you not all (blah)core is bad but most of it is.

 

in rap you can easily find more lyrical diversity than you can in these genres.

 

i mean sure some of their metaphors or rhetorical devices are used very well, but I mean if I wanted things to be the same, I'd be boycotting the producers of Casino Royale.

[Friðbjörn]

Well the way I see it is that rap is more appreciated for its cars, misogyny, wannabe gangsta wanksta(lol) shitthan metal(which isnt rising if anything its stuck in standstill.) Either way rap still has more lyrical variety than (__insert random trend__)core. Which if rap is dead, is very embarrassing.

 

I decided to look into some of these bands to at least get an idea of their lyrical styles. Because maybe, I figured, I was wrong and I need proof.

 

 

 

my point? even 50 cent and Jibbs had more diversity in their music. If anything metal is dead. Well actually it is. There is a few bands that do some goodness and I like them, but overall this whole core thing. i obviously dont listen to much of this core shit becuase that's all im getting. and if is going good then i get things with ear shattering screams.

 

bands like craddle of filth, dimmu borgir, slipknot, trivium are supposed to be the basic idea of what the genre is. they are who made it and who is the most popular. so ill give it to you not all (blah)core is bad but most of it is.

 

in rap you can easily find more lyrical diversity than you can in these genres.

 

i mean sure some of their metaphors or rhetorical devices are used very well, but I mean if I wanted things to be the same, I'd be boycotting the producers of Casino Royale.

you can't judge the whole metal scene just cause a a few bands write about gore and death and whatnot.

you also can't judge the whole rap scene cause a few rappers rap about their homies, bitches, and rides.

 

50 cent doesn't have diversity in his music. does 50 cent play any instruments? last time I checked he just had some guys produce beats for him. guys like Dr. Dre, who doesn't even play any instruments either.

 

rap ain't dead. underground rap will always be alive. but sayin metal is dead is wack, when the following of metal is much greater throughout the world, underground, than of rap.

 

both rap and metal have great diversity. but the usual difference is that the rap is either produced or sampled or both, while the metal is played and written by the band itself.

[Yackiestinger]

It was enough from you to mention me 50 cent and Nas. They need to be shot in the head for ruining rap scene.

you should actualy listen to real hip hop and rap, so we can talk further.

 

EDIT: I'm not bashing whole rap

 

I listen to:

-Grandmaster flash

-Run DMC

-Public enemy

-Naughty by nature

-KRS one

-Cypress hill

-Alley life

-Styles of beyond

-Del the funky homosapien

-Jurassic 5

etc etc

 

but bashing whole metal genre is something that brainless kid would do. The diference is if you don't like it.

and metal is not dead. There's a thousand sites full of metal music, a few channels on satellite. The crisis called numetal is almost dead.

[Breakdown Conspiracy]

Fella..you are wrong...

 

"fuck my life! I hate you all go to fucking hell!" and 3 lifeless chords is numetal, and nirvana alike shit.

Read the lyrics of real metal. It's often abstractive, astrologic, about life and death, etc.

 

If you listen to simple plan you'll hear that text above..hehehe

 

ofcourse there are plenty of metal shit such as craddle of filth, dimmu borgir, slipknot, trivium etc

but you can't help it, and you can't generaly say that all (name it)core is crap.

 

It's ovbious that you don't listen that much metal music

 

 

 

No I dont listen to much Metal mainly because I like softer music. But I must admit I have 4 slipknot songs. But they are the ones they have done that are actual songs, and not just senceless babling.

 

EDIT: I also do like some Dragonforce, mainly because they are fucken mint players!

 

EDIT2: I also listen to Seether, Disturbed, Blindspott, and Breaking Benjamin. If they count.

[azemkamikaze03]

It was enough from you to mention me 50 cent and Nas. They need to be shot in the head for ruining rap scene.

you should actualy listen to real hip hop and rap, so we can talk further.

 

EDIT: I'm not bashing whole rap

 

I listen to:

-Grandmaster flash

-Run DMC

-Public enemy

-Naughty by nature

-KRS one

-Cypress hill

-Alley life

-Styles of beyond

-Del the funky homosapien

-Jurassic 5

etc etc

 

but bashing whole metal genre is something that brainless kid would do. The diference is if you don't like it.

and metal is not dead. There's a thousand sites full of metal music, a few channels on satellite. The crisis called numetal is almost dead.

 

Get it straight I said mainstream so um yea. I do listen to real rap.

 

Nas by the way is definitely not anywhere even close to ruining any rap scene.

 

Cuz I mean

 

Mf Doom

Juelz Santana

Apathy

Celph Titled

Lupe Fiasco

Immortal Technique

Mos Def

A Tribe Called Quest

N.W.A

WuTang

Jay Z

Method Man

Pharoahe Monch

The Fugees

Talib Kweli

Common

Canibus

Eminem

RZA

Matisyahu

 

are really not real rap.

I mean I listen to them

and have them listed

under [Hip Hop/Rap]

in my Ipod, but in

reality it's not real rap.

 

 

But I guess you are missing the obviously blunt point of me showing you those lyrics. Rather than picking out metal's most known artists, I attempted from my knowledge to pick out their lesser. I then skimmed through each lyrics to see, if they were different and about a couple of bands were. The rest from my sight weren't. Now obviously LPF has a limit as to how much I can type in this small box. So again, I went ahead and picked out the names of bands(of the suffix -core genre) that were mentioned by those who like it so well and surfed through their lyrics. Still, I got nothing. So I, being the dick I so love being, decided to add salt to the wounds I was about to so diligently rip open on this subject. 50 Cent. Curtis Jackson. Probably the worst rapper after Mike Jones was my arguing point. He raps about 12 things. Drugs, Sex, Getting Shot, Never Changing, Being a Hood Rat, How Rappers Want To Be Like Him, How He is Paid, Cars, He's a Boss, How Grimy Other African-Americans Can Be, The Rap Game, and The Game. I'm sure I am missing a few other things. Now, take that 12 and look at the Core variety. Failed Love, Political Corruption, Damnation, Drugs, Not Giving a Fuck. That is about it. Obviously there are endless bands out there and I am not going to spend the rest of my life trying to find the two bands that are different. I guess in the end I could care less if they scream or not but they fit themselves into the cookie cutter stereotype of what rock is. If you ask a hip hop enthusiast what rock is, they'll probably say it's a bunch of wielding guitars and screaming white boys. And with the massive amounts of these core bands springing up it doesn't help get rid of this cliche. Of course every genre including my favored rap/hip hop has it. But the amount of rock bands exceeds the amount of hip hop. Sure some rappers use Ghost writers, but overall the majority of rappers put the words together themselves which is equally as important, and can contain just as beautiful as a message as rock. Hip Hop is always expanding and making itself more relate able to people as a whole. To me it feels as though rock is being pushed away and being less and less relatable. It's a shame. That's why the metal genre is falling apart. It used to be a lot more popular and people know that. But it is alienating itself from the general public sticking to just a certain group. Like I said rap is expanding and becoming more relatable to everyone. Lol, Lupe Fiasco said once "I am white people's Kool-Aid." Rap is far from dead. The goodness is more visible than rocks. Show me a good few metalcore bands with actual variety in their tracks and maybe I'll buy into your stuff. I'm not bashing the whole metal scene. Just the majority of it.

[Hybrid Soldier]

wow.

um,

i listend to about

5 songs from that genre

and if anything they are

mainstream

 

see if it ends in core its probably shit.

cept for some hard core.

screaming is not music.

at least in rap their flow has some sense of melody/harmony whatever u wanna call it.

in (__insert highschool subject__)core it can either be lots of screaming, just really weird sounds or random crap that is supposed to be original but overall sounds bad.

Personally, I enjoy alot of the music you do. So I cant use a cliche phrase such as "well, you know what, I hate your music too". However, I can say that I, unlike you, am open minded about music, and that I didnt ask who hated hardcore, I asked who liked it.

 

Oh, and I really(no sarcasm), commend you for picking out two bands I mentioned as examples, but please don't compare my favorites to 50 cent, I like rap and all, but not him.

[diana]

...

whatever

...

I never knew anything about different labels and stuff...never really cared about them cuz there are way too many...it's shitty, if you ask me...

 

However, sometimes it feels so good to listen to some hc/mc stuff...at some local concerts or something...in that way I love it...

In general, I listen to whatever I like...doesn't matter how it's labeled...

 

 

 

Oh, and guys...why do you always have to argue? lol...

[azemkamikaze03]

Personally, I enjoy alot of the music you do. So I cant use a cliche phrase such as "well, you know what, I hate your music too". However, I can say that I, unlike you, am open minded about music, and that I didnt ask who hated hardcore, I asked who liked it.

 

Oh, and I really(no sarcasm), commend you for picking out two bands I mentioned as examples, but please don't compare my favorites to 50 cent, I like rap and all, but not him.

Well I apologize, for comparing your two bands to everyones favorite thug() but I was just trying to prove a point to someone else.

 

I respect it if you like the music, I mean if everyone like the same thing life wouldn't be that fun, but I was just stating how I felt about that whole genre.

[littleblackstone]

I'm just sick of those labels. There's like thousands of them. This list we made is not even 5% of it. It will be like every band will have their own unique label. Once it was only metal or rock....

 

you're absolutely right!! that's why i never say which is my fav music genre cause there are billions of thousands of them, and i'm into a lot of them.. and actually, i dont give a fuck to it!

[Yackiestinger]

So...anyone listening to HC or something from this labels?

[Jeezy]

no actually I don't listen to stuff like that...

 

but I find it funny that people always try to specify genres....

[Yackiestinger]

so..I guess I'm the only one who listens to old school thrash metal, melodic death etc..

 

Well, lot of people here are listening bands similar to LP, and other genres so it's hard to expect to see people discussing this styles

 

Well, I admit, I like Shakira :-P

[Hybrid Soldier]

I love specifying genres, that why I dont have to tell someone I'm a hardcore kid, because im not, I'm a deathcore kid.

 

so..I guess I'm the only one who listens to old school thrash metal, melodic death etc..

No you arent. I sure as hell do.

[Friðbjörn]

old school thrash? well I did check out Voivod's first album the other day. and then again I've been meaning to check out some Anthrax, as well as their good friends Public Enemy

 

but yeah...not many people on here listen that much to metal I think. or hardcore.

[Stllmn8j]

My current fav band as far as hardcore goes would have to be The Devil Wears Prada

[LÎnkinPärkExtreme]

My current fav band as far as hardcore goes would have to be The Devil Wears Prada

Isn't that like a movie or whateva?

[Hybrid Soldier]

My current fav band as far as hardcore goes would have to be The Devil Wears Prada

Good choice I'd have to say, what are your opinions on some of the bands ive listed?

[Stllmn8j]

Good choice I'd have to say, what are your opinions on some of the bands ive listed?

 

I haven't really listened to any of them,I kinda get out of listening to hardcore when I'm not in Football or Wrestling seasons

[Hybrid Soldier]

I haven't really listened to any of them,I kinda get out of listening to hardcore when I'm not in Football or Wrestling seasons

Well, then your in luck, I'm making a playlist, just gotta narrow it down.

 

I welcome anyone else to do the same, and would love to see what comes up.

[yoh asakura4]

I listen to alot of metal stuff..half the time I dont the genre or whatever. I like death metal, thrash, black metal, but I like newer thrash the most.

[LÎnkinPärkExtreme]

I listen to alot of metal stuff..half the time I don't the genre or whatever. I like death metal, thrash, black metal, but I like newer thrash the most.

Yeah I like to listen to that sort of stuff on occasion Clears my mind of frustration :-P

[Hybrid Soldier]

So, I'm putting the final touches on the playlist and plan to upload it tonight or tommorrow morning.

[yoh asakura4]

A playlist for what?