Pro life or Pro Choice? V2

[GraDoN]

ok so we havent had a deep poll question for some time

so here is one, do you belive in pro life or abortion?

and rembmer Dont flame and respect opinion

 

im all for Pro-life, i believe that its murder killing a baby before they are born

 

*edit* shit ecrew'd up on the poll name, could some admin chance it to "pro life or pro choice" please

 

[allieking]

if you have se without protection then you know what will happen. abortion should be illegal unless there is a danger to mother or baby or in cases of rape. you should be responsible and bring up the child or have it adopted.

[diana]

Ummm...yeah, that's quite an issue...

 

Personaly I'm for Pro-choice...but only in cases when parents really couldn't take care of the baby...or when they live in awful conditions or are way too young or anything like that...I just think the "murder" would be better than a ruined child...even though that sounds really cruel...

But yeah, in general, I don't think there's an answer to this question...

[allieking]

if your too young to have a baby you shouldn't have sex!!! its as easy as that.

[LP_Soldier]

I sort of have the same views as diana. I'm Por-Choice as well. And I know it sounds cruel, but we all have our different opinions. Obvisouly, if you aren't at an age where you can take care of a baby, then you shouldn't have sex. But most youngsters do, and before they know it they've got themselves a child. But they can't take care of it. Say that their parents didn't want it, either, and neither do the guys's family. And if you just adopt it out, that poor child is going to grow up knowing it was just a mistake, and probably become messed up like a lot of kids these days.

Sure, its still 'alive' when its inside of you, but it hasn't really had the chance to actually live yet. So, and I know sounds cruel, but it would be better to have an abortion than have the kid born and then thrown into an orphanage, or several other homes. And also, like Allieking said, in cases of rape or situations that would put the parent or child in danger if it was born, such as a severe birth defect, or if the mother's life was at risk.

[MrsBennington-Delson]

if your too young to have a baby you shouldn't have sex!!! its as easy as that.

i kinda agree with that... but then again when are you old enough for a baby? with 18? 20?

I dont know... imo if the kids 'have to' have sex then they have to protect... most of them do it and dont even know a thing about sex or how to protect...

[Black_Angel]

Pro-Choice. It's up to the mother whether she has the baby or not. Though she should have a reasonably good reason for getting rid of it (eg. rape).

[FireHawk]

the only times i would say abortion is neccesary is if the child will be in a vegitative state or will be in pain from when its born and for rest of life...other than that i think putting up for adoption is best if u can not care and love for child...

 

...Having sex is a big responsibilty, and you are taking a risk every time you do it, even with protection. If you can't deal with the consequences, don't do it at all.

 

Well, here goes the cliche first. We were all aloud to live, so why would we deny someone else that right. If you are pregnant you are meant to have the baby. If you are raped, then give the baby for adoption or something. There are tons of alternative options. You are essentially killing a baby. Like it's been said, condoms are good. Use them dumbass. Oh it takes away the feeling blah blah blah. Please don't let me explain what you are missing out on. I'll do it if I have to. I mean why would you kill someone? It's just as bad as murdering. If you have sex by choice. Automatically, you should have the baby. If like the baby is going to be born with AIDS or something. I still think he deserves a chance. You never know maybe the child wil be some sort of prodigy who can fight the illness, its worth a try. I mean it sucks to see your child suffer, but it can also mentally affect you when you have an abortion...

 

Sorry if you didn't want me to use your guys quotes...

 

3 quotes really good quotes from the first thread, which can be found Here.

 

EDIT: Pro-Life

[X...Re-Arranged...X]

The woman should have the choice to do it or not. It's as simple as that.

[FireHawk]

So you think it alright to take someone elses life instead of yours? Kinda greedy.

[Sygy]

Im pro-choice, womens bodies and what happen to them are our bussiness, why be forced to bring a child into the world which is a produce of sexual violence? Why bear a child who just going to haunt you for the rest of your life because they resemble the person who raped them? isnt that unfair to ask? Thats unfair on the mother and the child, the child as well becuase if they are adopted they're going to face bigger issues such as indenty crisis when there older, as well as having to go throught hte heart-break of even if they did trace back their parents finding out that there dad raped there mum or that there parents may simply not want anything to do with them? A prime example would be my dad's ex-girlfriend, My dad treated her like my mum,poorly he subjeced her to emotional, physical and sexual abuse and she had an abortion. Thats becuase that would be the only way to get him out of her life, if there was a baby he would have an excuse to go around there and treat them both horribley. My mum almost aborted me, this sounds weird, but had she, she probably would have had a much better life. And im sure that cases like theses arent uncommon!

 

In addition, if you gt pregnant at sixteen, then its unfair to ask them to raise a child when they have milestones such as university to pass. Lastly, what if the baby has a deformity? Surely it would be better to abort rather than have that child be in agony for the rest of there life. If even not im agony be glare at on the street and made to feel awful everytime it stepped outside due to the serverity of its abnormality. Sometimes you have to do a little bad for the bigger picture.

 

 

meh.

[XrockinfreakX]

Pro-life.

I think of abortion as murder.

I find it really horrible when girls talk about their abortions like its nothing, and it was their fault they got pregnant.

[tsinoitcelfer]

if your too young to have a baby you shouldn't have sex!!! its as easy as that.

 

No Problem Here!

 

 

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[allieking]

i know a girl who got pregnant at 18, she had an abortion and six months later got pregnant again!!! she decided to keep that child.

 

i'm glad i didn't think that way or i wouldn't have my eldest daughter.

 

there are millions of childless couples that would kill for a child and women are having abortions after stupid mistakes.

[FireHawk]

there are millions of childless couples that would kill for a child and women are having abortions after stupid mistakes.

 

Exactly that is why adoption is always an option even if they baby is from rape, incest , or anything else.

[Victim]

In my opinion, this is not a simple answer.. I am defiantly more Pro-Life then Pro-choice, but I think abortion has its uses, as horrible as that sounds.

 

1. If you aren't ready for a baby don't have sex, or at least take all pre-cautions out there before having sex. I.E. : Condoms and birth control.

2. If you didn't use protection, use the morning after pill.

3. If you got rapped then it should be your choice. But at least think about all the childless couples out there who would love to have the baby.

4. If the mother or baby are in serious danger, abortion should be an option you should consider.

5. If you are emotionally/mentally challenged, abortion should be an option. Yes, this woman could give here child away, but think if she is strong enough to handle the birth. How can you explain that to someone like that?

6. If you do get pregnant, and you don't have any of those issues above, than fucking suck it up, have the baby, and give it away or suck it up and take responsibility. This does not mean that I am say a 13 year old girl should take care of a baby, of course not, but she sure could make a life for a happy family out there.

 

My friend had a child at 17. She took completely responsibility for herself and the baby. Even her boyfriend stepped up to the plate for her and the baby. Not all people are like this, but maybe if society didn't give people the option to be lazy and careless of THEIR mistakes, we would be a bit more responsible in life.

 

Just my 2 cents.

[misery]

I stand by my above quote in FireHawk's first post.

[DarknessLover]

I am for both

 

Pro Choice:

1.You are not a responsible parent, and the hospital/court agrees

2. If the baby won't be healthy

3. If the mother is a victim of rape

4. Still in college, can be allowed (Parties, too much booze, hot guy...lmao)

5. If the sex was safe, but the condom failed, should be allowed

 

Pro Life

1. If the mother thinsk she can't become a good parent, she might have the child, and get order from the court to have it in an adoption home

2. If they are a fit parent and deserve the child, they should have to bring it in the world

3. If they are going to have a fit child

4. If the parents are respectable

 

 

I go both ways in this situation

[X...Re-Arranged...X]

So you think it alright to take someone elses life instead of yours? Kinda greedy.

I would never do it myself. But I just believe that it's personal choice and let people make their own decisions.

[misery]

I would never do it myself. But I just believe that it's personal choice and let people make their own decisions.

That's the thing. Abortion doesn't let people make their own decisions. The baby is a person, too, and I'm sure given the choice, they would choose living over dying.

[geeko]

vote goes to prolife......but i follow prochoice more......

[Peterdea]

Well, think about it this way, all kinds of shit can change in people lives anytime and unexpectedly.

One day a couple could be all "Yeah let's have a kid!", then soon after something bad happens which will make bringing the baby up next to impossible for the couple. If that was to happen to me, I would rather know my child isn't suffering rather then live for the rest of my life, wondering whether the kid is okay. How would you feel if you found out the kid you helped create was adopted by a really bad family, one that treats their kids like shit? Or you find out the kid died a slow painful death because his adoptive father hit him or something? It would make me feel sick, and I'd feel really guilty.

But then again, killing the baby like that before considering the positives of adoption, or even keeping the child. Keeping with the same example as before, you could also find out the child has become a famous actor, who is rich, married and very happy. Or could be a really smart kid who has a good future ahead of him/her. There's also the possibility (as i said above) of keeping the child. It could end up a great choice because something could go very right and then everythings happy.

I'll vote for pro choice because I think it should be the choice of the parent after considering the sort of things I mentioned here.

(I don't even know if any of that made sense... I just kept typing.. lol)

[HaziLPTonz]

hmmmm

 

this is one of those arguments u try to stay clear of, because either way, YOU ARE WRONG!

it all depends on each case and individual cases cant be judged either way, some you hafta say prolife,some hafta say prochoice,making a general assumption to cover all cases would just be wrong

 

prochoice and prolife can be argued to the cows come home. prochoice i chose. simply because there are many instances,like stated before like mothers who cant raise a baby,have no capacity(like mentally disbaled or physically), or theyre preganant due to rape and all sorts of nasties. which is why in THIS case we should have prochoice. also, old people who basically are family-less, friendless, terminally ill etc should be given choice for euthenasia(because thas ALSO part of prolife/prochoice). while cruel it may seem, it would make sense(im not being an asshole or anything), many of Australia's hospitals are filled with old peoplpe who are terminally ill and have no family who can care for them, this leads to a MAJOR shortage of beds and many people die because of this, plus many of them are in a vegetative state anyways, they cant get up. while this may seem harsh,put it this way, how would u feel if ur brother had a stroke or major injuries and he died somply because there was a shortage of beds in ur local hospital?(it happens more often that not in Aus), and later you find out that like...40%(not actual figure,but the figure is still very large) of hospital beds are taken by elderly with little or no family,in a vegetative state or are just there because the system just dropped them there.

 

again prolife can come into it too, many people are simply depressed,stressed or emo. so in this case prolife should be enforced as these people have a means or a choice to lead normal lives if rehabilatated, as oposed to elderly who are more likely to waste away rather than lead normal healthy lives, or women forced to care for a baby they have no care for and leave it to die anyways

 

i mean,either way, this is way too hard to choose, you cant simply make a decision without suffering consequences-choose prolife, and people tell you they want choice,because its part of human nature to choose the way we live(and die soemtimes), while if you choose prochoice, there will be those telling you life is important(even if its really not to those wanting prochoice or affected by prochoice)

[allieking]

also people say teen mums can't brng up children, thats wrong. i was 17 when i fell pregnant with my first daughter and shes well behaved and polite. i also had 2 kids at the age of 19, i found it very hard but i don't regret any of it.

[Holy War]

Pro-Choice...Kind of rough putting the option down in a statement as "abortion". Obviously there will always be situations that you can say "what the hell?!?" to, but that's the difference between you and every other person in the world...called diversity, deal with it.